New York City race for Mayor

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tequila4kapp
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movielover said:


Because this worked sooooo well in Minneapolis.
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Pakistani's make up 2.7% of the UK population, but I've read they are 83% and 85% of the r-pe-torture-and-pimp gangs of largely white British children.

Sikh girls have also been targeted, and they have educated their girls to be aware, and in some cases they fly their little girls out of the country to protect them.
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Anarchistbear said:

In order to get Mahmdamu's proposals passed he needs support and votes from a more conservative state house, so I don't think many billionaires will flee. Some of it will pass if there is political pressure to do so. New York City is a flashpoint between income inequality and democracy
That isn't exactly accurate. Nobody told the Charlatan there's no such thing as Santa Claus. The Charlatan needs permission for the "millionaire and corporate tax increase" which as you point out may not be granted or granted in full. The governor has expressed steadfast opposition to hiking taxes on high-income earners. She will be facing reelection next year too, just as the Charlatan would need her blessing to begin accomplishing his goals during his first year in office. He says that will add $10 Billion dollars (this also includes raising some fees, better parking enforcement, etc.) though with the ongoing flight of financial businesses, no one really expects that much money. Just for the record, de Basio's attempt to raise the taxes was thwarted by then Gov. Cuomo telling him pound sand. Politico says the City is losing 1,000 private sector jobs per month this year (they have an internal City study), which should massively increase as the Charlatan taxes and spends. Most of the city's biggest employers and top wage earners (at least on the financial services area) will not benefit from the proposed Trump tax cuts because of how their businesses are structured. The idea that he would net raise an additional $10 billion is fantasy because those taxpayers and the jobs that they provide would be moving out faster than the Charlatan could collect.

BUT: the Charlatan ALSO has a Bernie Sanders issue about math:

Just to point out some of the issues:

1) Free child care up tp five years old. So this gets to how the increase in Billionaire income taxes gets used. For a sense of scale, de Blasio's Pre-K plan was priced at less than $500 million annually when the funding was included in the state budget. The Charlatan is looking to raise 20 times that sum, almost all through tax hikes., assuming he really gets the approximate $10 billion authorization from the State. THERE AIN'T NO TAX INCREASES LEFT FOR ANYTHING ELSE SPORTS FANS. And the Charlatan readily admits this, but says he can get funding for the other programs from Albany.

2) Free City Bus Fares. The Charlatan would have to pay off $Billions in bonds because the MTA bondholders to have a right not have the revenues from fares impaired, which are pledged to repay the bonds. Clearly this charlatan has no clue how the City funds its operations. He also will need state approval to change bus fares. Setting aside the legal issues for the moment, where doers the Charlatan get the money to actually run the buses and pay the employees of the already cash strapped MTA? How may $Billions does all the cost.

2) City owned grocery stores. This is an incredibly stupid idea that is not thought out, though there are some underserved areas that might be helped. Opening municipal groceries would not address the underlying forces driving grocery store closures in parts of the city (namely, crime and poverty), but at least provide a location for groceries to be purchased. The problem is that the Charlatan wants to give the food away at a reduced price to everyone. It was the rampant shoplifting of recent years that led to mass retail closures in the first place, so the question is won't the muni stores have the same problem? Private grocery chains aren't exactly price gouging when net profits typically average a razor-thin 1 percent to 2 percent and are competitive with not for profit cooperatives. So how exactly does all this bureaucracy, real estate acquisition and construction get funded, a work force established, supply chains developed, warehouses, etc. and who pays for it? The Charlatan assumes that he knows the problem (corporate greed). But since grocery stores aren't making large profits, his plan is unlikely to deliver meaningfully cheaper goods, unless there is massive subsidization, and where does the Charlatan get the money for that? The Charlatan has no understanding of scaling, and the higher cost of food is a national problem. The result would be a poorly run, taxpayer-funded grocery store (where does that money come from again? ) that will have little impact on the high cost of living.

4) New housing and other infrastructure. The Charlatan is proposing to more than triple the $30 billion dedicated to housing in the hopes of, in turn, tripling the city's production of affordable homes. Poltico says a review of his proposals found Mamdani has likely underestimated the cost of his housing construction and school rehab plans by tens of billions of dollars, and the amble time needed for development means he is not breaking ground during his first term. Welcome to development in the NIMBY big city. The Charlatan sounds exactly like the LA mayor who so far has basically developed less that 25 units in her tenure in LA despite imposing the "mIllionaire tax on property sales for housing (she now is considering eliminate or abating the tax due to falling revenues in a frozen LA real estate market). The Charlatan already is set to borrow around $173 billion over the next 10 years to finance major infrastructure projects like the construction of four new jail facilities. But there is no room in the State debt limit to do that so he the Charlatan would have to get other projects outside NYC to be canceled. Good luck with that. And his pledge to build with union labor would drive up construction expenses even more. He also has promised new green construction projects of unknown amounts and with no clear source of funding. No one can even estimate the cost of this, because the Charlatan can't provide any meaningful scope pf work of what he intends to do, because he doesn't know what to do.

BTW, to set forth how really clueless the Charlatan really is per my AI:

New York City is projected to face significant budget deficits in the coming years, with estimates indicating a gap to $7 billion in 2025. This situation is attributed to overspending, rising costs associated with asylum seekers, and the expiration of federal pandemic support. Maybe somebody should explain how the capital markets work to the Charlatan. If he actually gets to issue the bond levels he wants, the bonds will spiraling to a junk bond rating and cost a lot more that he realizes.

As for the State
NY's budget gaps expected to balloon to $36B by 2027: comptroller

As for the Governor:
I'm not raising income taxes," Hochul said in March, citing a desire to stem an exodus of the wealthy to lower-tax states. "I will cut income taxes instead. That's how I'm going to keep people here." Indeed, the Governor has refused to endorse the Charlatan presently.

I get that young, unsophisticated voters in a Democratic primary like big ideas, but the general election will bring out a different voter. There is no Santa Clause awaiting them.

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If the Dems can accuse someone like Trump running for president primarily for personal gain, why can't the same motivation be true for someone like Zohran Mamdani?
sycasey
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Mamdani's parents have done well for themselves, but I think people are overestimating how much money college professors and independent filmmakers (even successful ones) actually have. They are well above the average, but hardly in the realm of billionaires.
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Anarchistbear said:

There was a huge shift in Muslim voters from Democrats to Trump. Muslims are core MAGA not religious fanatics, no more than Vance's wife is a Hindu fanatic.

Mamdani was asked on NBC if we would condemn the term, "globalize intifada" by Kristen Welker and he would not do it. He might not behave like a religious fanatic but is he a fanatic sympathizer?
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movielover said:


These are always laughable. Police care about their seniority and pensions way too much to resign. They all going to go to Yonkers or Hoboken? LOL

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movielover said:

Pakistani's make up 2.7% of the UK population, but I've read they are 83% and 85% of the r-pe-torture-and-pimp gangs of largely white British children.

Sikh girls have also been targeted, and they have educated their girls to be aware, and in some cases they fly their little girls out of the country to protect them.
Meh, #14 proves you wrong again (from a UK site)

MAGAts, lying idiots

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bear2034 said:

Anarchistbear said:

There was a huge shift in Muslim voters from Democrats to Trump. Muslims are core MAGA not religious fanatics, no more than Vance's wife is a Hindu fanatic.

Mamdani was asked on NBC if we would condemn the term, "globalize intifada" by Kristen Welker and he would not do it. He might not behave like a religious fanatic but is he a fanatic sympathizer?


All slogans are bull ****
sycasey
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Here is a partial transcript of what Mamdani actually said about the word "intifada." Anyone can listen to the podcast interview if they like.



You can find further transcripts in the comments on this Facebook post, from a Brooklyn professor:

https://www.facebook.com/corey.robin1/posts/pfbid0wxLfNivumJDw29iwL3fwVX3eTYq1Ssg7Nu9xXx9djgFivJshimEkFhwWboSvhM4El

He condemns the violence of October 7, but says he does not believe in policing words that can have different meanings to different people. Wasn't this the MAGA argument just a little while ago? Or did that only apply when they wanted to say the N-word?

I think people can have plenty of reasons to disagree with or criticize Mamdani's proposed policies. I also think the "antisemitism" attacks on him are barking up the wrong tree. People already thought this Bulwark interview would destroy his chances in the primary and instead he won going away. It's not having the effect his opponents want.
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Mamdani firmly believes in his version of what "equality" is. He said his worldview was shaped by growing up in a third world country (his words) but is probably shaped just as much during his time at Bowdoin. He wants to tax wealthy whites to pay for this to happen and plainly said on NBC with a smile that he doesn't think there should be billionaires..

I think we can call agree this is more Socialism than Sharia law despite the Jihadists having similar views against capitalism?
Cal88
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I am now thinking Mamdami is going to win. The opposition will fund a single opponent, most likely Adams, and force Cuomo out, to the tune of $100+ million, but the attacks are going to backfire, and all the money pouring in against him is going to reinforce his image as a maverick populist anti-establishment candidate.

Say what you want about NYC, but in 2025 the Big Apple just isn't a place where racist messaging is going to get enough traction, I think it's going to get the opposite reaction across minorities, the working class and with college grads as well.

Furthermore Trump virulently attacking Mamdani is actually going to help him a lot (see the Liberals winning in Canada and Australia due to Trump attacking Lib candidates).





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He's gonna wind up doing Trump on Trump. Make NYC great again!
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Anarchistbear said:

He's gonna wind up doing Trump on Trump. Make NYC great again!
He's a million X smarter than Trump. Thank God we actually have some intelligent people staying in politics

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MAGATS, not smart

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SBGold said:

Anarchistbear said:

He's gonna wind up doing Trump on Trump. Make NYC great again!
He's a million X smarter than Trump. Thank God we actually have some intelligent people staying in politics

UNITY OF DIVISION

MAGATS, not smart

VOTE BLUE

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Your blinded by TDS. Trump is a very smart political operator.
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We have tried many of these things - or variations on the the es - in Portland.

Free childcare for all. Failure. It failed so bad the governor doesn't support renewing the tax.

Affordable housing. Failure.

Homeless tax / services. Failure. The government has decided against putting the tax up for renewal because it will fail.

We used to have free transit on trains/busses in a downtown corridor. Gone.

Defund the police / community health workers. Failure, hired the cops back.

Etc, etc, etc.
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SBGold said:

Anarchistbear said:

He's gonna wind up doing Trump on Trump. Make NYC great again!
He's a million X smarter than Trump. Thank God we actually have some intelligent people staying in politics

UNITY OF DIVISION

MAGATS, not smart

VOTE BLUE

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And yet he has the most naive and stupid policy ideas ever.
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Cal88 said:

I am now thinking Mamdami is going to win. The opposition will fund a single opponent, most likely Adams, and force Cuomo out, to the tune of $100+ million, but the attacks are going to backfire, and all the money pouring in against him is going to reinforce his image as a maverick populist anti-establishment candidate.

Say what you want about NYC, but in 2025 the Big Apple just isn't a place where racist messaging is going to get enough traction, I think it's going to get the opposite reaction across minorities, the working class and with college grads as well.

Furthermore Trump virulently attacking Mamdani is actually going to help him a lot (see the Liberals winning in Canada and Australia due to Trump attacking Lib candidates).

Racism and politics in this country is a black and white thing, literally. This is primarily about socialism, the same issue why the DNC had to take out Bernie Sanders twice.
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SBGold said:

movielover said:


These are always laughable. Police care about their seniority and pensions way too much to resign. They all going to go to Yonkers or Hoboken? LOL

VOTE BLUE

UNITY OVER DIVISION

Go Bears Forever


Retire, disability, Florida, lots of options.
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Anarchistbear said:



Trump is funny- got to hand it to him

He is being hysterical to suggest he would allow anyone to "win" the NYC Mayoral election other than his asset that he owns……

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tequila4kapp said:

SBGold said:

Anarchistbear said:

He's gonna wind up doing Trump on Trump. Make NYC great again!
He's a million X smarter than Trump. Thank God we actually have some intelligent people staying in politics

UNITY OF DIVISION

MAGATS, not smart

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever


And yet he has the most naive and stupid policy ideas ever.
Yes, Trump does. And then it's TACO time!

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SBGold
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Nah, I see TACO at most turns

The Gulf of America was pretty wonderful though (eye roll)

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Cal88
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Very good analysis of political campaign by insider Sirota, former senior adviser to the Bernie 2020 campaign:

movielover
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Adult conversation, refreshing.
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A lot of people have been saying that Trump rigged all 3 elections he ran in but he underestimated the votes he would have to "get" to clear Biden's total. He already admitted he rigged Pennsylvania.*Trump didn't pardon Adams to not have him end up as mayor of NYC.





* U.S. President Donald Trump said his adviser, tech mogul Elon Musk, "knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania, like, in a landslide."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-truly-said-elon-musk-knows-vote-counting-computers-better-than-anybody/ar-AA1BWrEK?ocid=TobArticle

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movielover said:

Adult conversation, refreshing.

If you liked the interview above, you will appreciate this sharp analyisis by New Yorker Ted Rall, who dives deeper into the NYC mayoral campaign dynamics.

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The guy is an actual communist. He flat out says his goal is to seize the means of production. Yeah, I'd be scared too.
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He says the publicly owned grocery stores have been done elsewhere so they can do it in NYC. I did a little digging.

One example is St Paul, KS. This is a rural community that lost its one grocery store for like 20 years. 600 people in the town, 16K in the county. The local government played a role in obtaining grants to obtain the land/building but the operation of the store was done by a private party that purchased the right to buy inventory and operate the store, as well as another group of local citizens who were effectively an investor group. After about 10-15 years the city bought them out and it is now a city owned store; all employees are city employees. Notice the time it took to become a fully functioning city owned entity. Plus there are pretty substantial differences between operating 1 rural KS store and operating numerous stores in the 5 boroughs of urban NYC.

The other example is Atlanta, GA. This is a privately owned business. A husband and wife POC entrepreneur couple are effectively reimagining grocery stores. No check out staff; they instead use an AI based automated check out system. They have benefited from government grants but this is not a publicly owned entity. They went on Shark Tank and were refused money by the investors, who suggested a not-for-profit model instead (they declined). Notably, they have 1 store in suburban ATL, about 20 miles outside the city, which opened about 3 years ago. That store is 500 square feet. For comparison purposes the average Safeway is 46,000 square feet. They are reportedly on the cusp of opening 2 more stores on the other side of town.

Reports indicate publicly owned stores are being tried in two other cities.
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MinotStateBeav said:

The guy is an actual communist. He flat out says his goal is to seize the means of production. Yeah, I'd be scared too.
bear2034
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I hear Zohran Mamdani applied to college as an African-American.
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bear2034 said:


If the Dems can accuse someone like Trump running for president primarily for personal gain, why can't the same motivation be true for someone like Zohran Mamdani?


You mean hypocrites come in all shapes and sizes?

Shocker.

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movielover
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Hypocrisy. Trust-fund baby identifies as Black.
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Elon and Zohran are both black.
going4roses, your thoughts?
tequila4kapp
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It is being reported that his grocery store plan is built on a mis-read of the numbers. His plan was to use 1/2 the 140M the state spent to subsidize private grocery stores to instead do the publicly owned stores. Turns out the 140M was the amount private grocers invested. The state had put about 30M in.
 
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