I think this my longest thread ever ... wish it was not related to some *****ry

Is this true?


https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJc9yDq2/

Unit2Sucks said:

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The Trumpists always said there was a deep state, they just neglected to mention that it's full of Republicans and many of them are anti-democracy authoritarian nutjobs.

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The deep state and the overall swamp includes both Democrats and Republicans.

Trump's new spokesperson:

BearForce2 said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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The Trumpists always said there was a deep state, they just neglected to mention that it's full of Republicans and many of them are anti-democracy authoritarian nutjobs.

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The deep state and the overall swamp includes both Democrats and Republicans.

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Yes but

okaydo said:

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Trump's new spokesperson:

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Translation: His lawyers told him that he should try to avoid additional counts of insurrection and inciting riot.

concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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okaydo said:

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Interesting! McConnell has no real principles or loyalty; he will do whatever it takes to maintain or improve his standing. He's also not dumb, and there's a very good argument now that Trump is a drag on the Republican Party (especially in the Senate, where you have to win statewide races), not a benefit. This thing might actually happen.

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Trump is now impeached and McConnell says nothing happens until Jan 19. So, he's punting on both confirmations AND impeachment.

There is little doubt in my mind that the Republicans will return in a week positioning themselves as VICTIMS, and EVERYTHING that happens will be to gum up the system. I expect them to continue to be nasty during confirmations and act just like the Dems did during Kavanaugh - THAT will be their playbook.

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The benefit for McConnell would be to prevent Trump from running for office again, more than just getting him out of office a week earlier. I believe that can still happen even after Trump is out of office.

Unit2Sucks said:

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The Trumpists always said there was a deep state, they just neglected to mention that it's full of Republicans and many of them are anti-democracy authoritarian nutjobs.

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Peter Dale Scott wrote about deep politics and the deep state, but the term was hijacked by the trumpsters.

going4roses said:

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I think this my longest thread ever ... wish it was not related to some [pluckery]

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Not as long as my 'Coronavirus vs Trump' thread - even during which I was out on an extended and unscripted 6 (more like 9) month long [vacation]. You're only halfway home, pup.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/94376/1

Then there's Dajo's 'Final Election Prediction' thread, 34 pages long:
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/94376/1

But the king of all BI threads, would have to be, 326 pages long - I'll let you guess...
https://bearinsider.com/forums/3/topics/11616/0

and Part Deux, 186 pages:
https://bearinsider.com/forums/3/topics/28431/0

Funny... the end of that thread mirrors the end of the Trump Presidency.

sycasey said:

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concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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okaydo said:

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Interesting! McConnell has no real principles or loyalty; he will do whatever it takes to maintain or improve his standing. He's also not dumb, and there's a very good argument now that Trump is a drag on the Republican Party (especially in the Senate, where you have to win statewide races), not a benefit. This thing might actually happen.

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Trump is now impeached and McConnell says nothing happens until Jan 19. So, he's punting on both confirmations AND impeachment.

There is little doubt in my mind that the Republicans will return in a week positioning themselves as VICTIMS, and EVERYTHING that happens will be to gum up the system. I expect them to continue to be nasty during confirmations and act just like the Dems did during Kavanaugh - THAT will be their playbook.

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The benefit for McConnell would be to prevent Trump from running for office again, more than just getting him out of office a week earlier. I believe that can still happen even after Trump is out of office.

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The benefit for McConnell is to marginalize Trump and his family, Qanon bullshyte, White Supremecists, and the loud, powerful percentage of Republicans who have a psychological hold on a big enough percentage of the party that it is killing them in the center. The benefit is marginalizing going overboard with the conspiracy theory bullshyte. Because if the Republicans stay on this path they are screwed. Trump gave aid and comfort to the complete whackos in the party and that is why Republicans have lost suburban America. They cannot survive without it. If they don't reverse that trend immediately, those people will become hardened in their support for the Democrats.

It is questionable whether Trump did much for Republicans. He brought in new voters on his side who only vote when he is on the ballot, but he also brought in a lot of voters on the other side to vote against him.

OaktownBear said:

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sycasey said:

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concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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okaydo said:

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Interesting! McConnell has no real principles or loyalty; he will do whatever it takes to maintain or improve his standing. He's also not dumb, and there's a very good argument now that Trump is a drag on the Republican Party (especially in the Senate, where you have to win statewide races), not a benefit. This thing might actually happen.

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Trump is now impeached and McConnell says nothing happens until Jan 19. So, he's punting on both confirmations AND impeachment.

There is little doubt in my mind that the Republicans will return in a week positioning themselves as VICTIMS, and EVERYTHING that happens will be to gum up the system. I expect them to continue to be nasty during confirmations and act just like the Dems did during Kavanaugh - THAT will be their playbook.

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The benefit for McConnell would be to prevent Trump from running for office again, more than just getting him out of office a week earlier. I believe that can still happen even after Trump is out of office.

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The benefit for McConnell is to marginalize Trump and his family, Qanon bullshyte, White Supremecists, and the loud, powerful percentage of Republicans who have a psychological hold on a big enough percentage of the party that it is killing them in the center. The benefit is marginalizing going overboard with the conspiracy theory bullshyte. Because if the Republicans stay on this path they are screwed. Trump gave aid and comfort to the complete whackos in the party and that is why Republicans have lost suburban America. They cannot survive without it. If they don't reverse that trend immediately, those people will become hardened in their support for the Democrats.

It is questionable whether Trump did much for Republicans. He brought in new voters on his side who only vote when he is on the ballot, but he also brought in a lot of voters on the other side to vote against him.

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The losses in Georgia solidified that Trump is not an electoral winner for Republicans: in four years, he lost them the House, Senate, and Presidency. First President to do that since Hoover, and the first to do that after taking over from another party since the 19th century (Hoover followed another Republican).

Waiting to hear about a garbage can that was used to assault a police officer, only to find out that the assailant was a Republican garbage man.

sycasey said:

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concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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okaydo said:

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Interesting! McConnell has no real principles or loyalty; he will do whatever it takes to maintain or improve his standing. He's also not dumb, and there's a very good argument now that Trump is a drag on the Republican Party (especially in the Senate, where you have to win statewide races), not a benefit. This thing might actually happen.

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Trump is now impeached and McConnell says nothing happens until Jan 19. So, he's punting on both confirmations AND impeachment.

There is little doubt in my mind that the Republicans will return in a week positioning themselves as VICTIMS, and EVERYTHING that happens will be to gum up the system. I expect them to continue to be nasty during confirmations and act just like the Dems did during Kavanaugh - THAT will be their playbook.

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The benefit for McConnell would be to prevent Trump from running for office again, more than just getting him out of office a week earlier. I believe that can still happen even after Trump is out of office.

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Yeah.
Get Trump out, but somehow make it look like the damned Democrats are to blame for everything.

of note: where is McConnell and the GOP leadership condemning violence?
I bet they want more stuff to happen, so they can vote Trump out without repercussion. They are probably hoping some violent counter protestors show up.

A Former Marine Stormed the Capitol as Part of a Far-Right Militia | The New Yorker


https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-former-marine-stormed-the-capitol-as-part-of-a-far-right-militia

Kevin Seefried, of Delaware, and his son have been arrested.

America = the snake eating it's own tail

Is tRump going to pull the ultimate BSD move and pardon himself and all these seditionist, murderous "Patriots?"

bearister said:

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Is tRump going to pull the ultimate BSD move and pardon himself and all these seditionist, murderous "Patriots?"

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Of course he is. For "unity."

Completely unplanned. No insider knowledge or help. Just a passionate protest that got a little heated.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/14/capitol-riot-video-planning-nr-vpx.cnn

WalterSobchak said:

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bearister said:

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Is tRump going to pull the ultimate BSD move and pardon himself and all these seditionist, murderous "Patriots?"

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Of course he is. For "unity."

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..and if he does, the the majority of Republican senators will still vote to acquit him in the impeachment trial.

Ashli Babbitt and her Marine husband were in a THROUPLE

Ashli Babbitt and her Marine husband were in a THROUPLE



https://mol.im/a/9147335

bearister said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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bearister said:

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Is tRump going to pull the ultimate BSD move and pardon himself and all these seditionist, murderous "Patriots?"

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Of course he is. For "unity."

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..and if he does, the the majority of Republican senators will still vote to acquit him in the impeachment trial.

Ashli Babbitt and her Marine husband were in a THROUPLE

Ashli Babbitt and her Marine husband were in a THROUPLE



https://mol.im/a/9147335

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Honestly, I'm still more shocked that she was an Obama fan, as she once tweeted. She hates Biden. Hated Hillary. But loves Obama and Trump.

So what you are telling me is that it was not a hard sell when her husband talked her into a throuple with the twenty something blondie.

Very curious to see a BLM in there with Trumpists. That pretty much blows my mind.
I know that more blacks voted for Trump this time vs last time, and I simply cannot fathom why. Makes no sense to me, as I think SO much of what motivates Trump and so many of his followers is subconscious (and conscious, admittedly) racism and xenophobia.

Maybe it's like Elizabeth from Knoxville - "we're storming the castle! It's a revolution. (but, oh, I got maced - no fair.)" Some people just don't get it. (Like, 74M)