The Economy

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movielover
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Ivanpah? LOL
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

Ivanpah? LOL


It's being decommissioned in 2026.
Two contracts with PG&E have been terminated.
Closure in 2026 pending CPUC approval.

Ivanpah Solar Closure Was Announced in January 2025Here's the Context as Headlines Resurface - Environment+Energy Leader

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DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

So you're gonna do nothing but attack the messenger?




Attack you by offering others opinions on the matter?


Your reading comprehension is poor.
He clearly attacked Brian Moynihan the CEO of BofA.

movielover said:

This CEO 'debanked' President Trump after he left office, refusing to take over $1 Billion in deposits. A resident of liberal Massachusetts, he takes private jets to corporate meetings (hypocrisy).



You were the messenger in that situation but "cool story"
DiabloWags
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

So you're gonna do nothing but attack the messenger?




Attack you by offering others opinions on the matter?


Your reading comprehension is poor.
He clearly attacked Brian Moynihan the CEO of BofA.

movielover said:

This CEO 'debanked' President Trump after he left office, refusing to take over $1 Billion in deposits. A resident of liberal Massachusetts, he takes private jets to corporate meetings (hypocrisy).




You were the messenger in that situation but "cool story"


Your reading comprehension continues to be extremely poor.
Please do better.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

So you're gonna do nothing but attack the messenger?




Attack you by offering others opinions on the matter?


Your reading comprehension is poor.
He clearly attacked Brian Moynihan the CEO of BofA.

movielover said:

This CEO 'debanked' President Trump after he left office, refusing to take over $1 Billion in deposits. A resident of liberal Massachusetts, he takes private jets to corporate meetings (hypocrisy).




You were the messenger in that situation but "cool story"


Your reading comprehension continues to be extremely poor.
Please do better.




"Cool story"
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Flagged for "Flame post with no meaningful information"
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DiabloWags
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Current situation:

1. US GDP growth is at its strongest pace since 2023

2. CPI inflation unexpectedly fell to 2.7% last month

3. Trump is appointing a new Fed Chair who will cut rates

4. Oil prices are down to their lowest level since 2021

5. Equity ETFs have attracted a record +$1.4 trillion in 2025


Here let me help educate you.

People are selling Equity Mutual Funds and buying ETF's
Net Outflows from Equity Mutual Funds are on track for $500 Billion for the year.

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movielover
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Thomas Del Beccaro, part-time Lafayette resident:

"Obama became the first president in United States history not to have a quarter reach 3% growth."

The Fed was wrong again (on GDP growth). Why?

TDB: "The U.S. has had 5 major income tax reforms in its history prior to 2025. All 5 times, the many naysayers said the reform would increase the deficit.

"All 5 times they were wrong because as a result of the reforms of the 1920s, 1960s, 1980s, 2003-05, and 2017, the economy expanded at a higher rate than before the tax reforms - and tax receipts rose."
cal83dls79
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I recuse myself.
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DiabloWags said:

So why would there be any need to LOWER THE FED FUNDS RATE?

Lower Fed rates provide relief by reducing refinancing costs for short-term debt, primarily $6-7 trillion in treasury bills. Short-term debt rolls over frequently, often multiple times per year, which is why Federal Reserve rate changes (like the recent cuts) provide immediate relief on refinancing costs.
DiabloWags
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

So why would there be any need to LOWER THE FED FUNDS RATE?

Lower Fed rates provide relief by reducing refinancing costs for short-term debt, primarily $6-7 trillion in treasury bills. Short-term debt rolls over frequently, often multiple times per year, which is why Federal Reserve rate changes (like the recent cuts) provide immediate relief on refinancing costs.


Thanks for the Ai answer.
That's obvious.

Now tell me where INFLATION and the Yield on the 10-Year goes.

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DiabloWags
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movielover said:

Thomas Del Beccaro, part-time Lafayette resident:

"Obama became the first president in United States history not to have a quarter reach 3% growth."

The Fed was wrong again (on GDP growth). Why?

TDB: "The U.S. has had 5 major income tax reforms in its history prior to 2025. All 5 times, the many naysayers said the reform would increase the deficit.

"All 5 times they were wrong because as a result of the reforms of the 1920s, 1960s, 1980s, 2003-05, and 2017, the economy expanded at a higher rate than before the tax reforms - and tax receipts rose."


It's clear that you are terribly gullible to erroneous and flat-out false GOP talking points.
You've shown a pattern of this in your posts about the economy in this forum.
Let me help educate you.

If you actually bothered to look it up, quarterly GDP under Obama was in fact > 3% eight times during his Presidency.
I believe there were 4 quarters > 4%

In fact, GDP hit 5.0% in Q3 of 2014.




As for the budget deficit, it did not go down after 2017 tax reform.
It went straight up.

2017: $665
2018: $779
2019: $984
2020: $3,132



It would really help discussion in this forum if you were able to post from a solid knowledge base.
Instead of posting highly bogus political "talking points" that have nothing to do with reality.

Do better.















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cal83dls79
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DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

So why would there be any need to LOWER THE FED FUNDS RATE?

Lower Fed rates provide relief by reducing refinancing costs for short-term debt, primarily $6-7 trillion in treasury bills. Short-term debt rolls over frequently, often multiple times per year, which is why Federal Reserve rate changes (like the recent cuts) provide immediate relief on refinancing costs.


Thanks for the Ai answer.
That's obvious.

Now tell me where INFLATION and the Yield on the 10-Year goes.


I read his answer using my Computer Voice as well. Sounds like Hal with some Mr Bean thrown in. Uh Up? Bond guys gonna want more interst for all of that low interest stuff rolling from the 2010's. My question is how much of this is already baked in to Gold's run and if it still has legs. Personally I'm not a trader. I typically invest in stuff I know and hold, but with uncertainty comes opportunity and I see lots of uncertainty right now despite living in the Golden Age.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

So why would there be any need to LOWER THE FED FUNDS RATE?

Lower Fed rates provide relief by reducing refinancing costs for short-term debt, primarily $6-7 trillion in treasury bills. Short-term debt rolls over frequently, often multiple times per year, which is why Federal Reserve rate changes (like the recent cuts) provide immediate relief on refinancing costs.


6-7
cal83dls79
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So much for any hope of investment analysis here.
I listened to that 6/7 stuff Xmas day with my grand nephew thank you very much!
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cal83dls79 said:

So much for any hope of investment analysis here.
I listened to that 6/7 stuff Xmas day with my grand nephew thank you very much!


You're welcome!
DiabloWags
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cal83dls79 said:

So much for any hope of investment analysis here.
I listened to that 6/7 stuff Xmas day with my grand nephew thank you very much!

It's really hard to believe that there are people that actually graduated from the University of California at Berkeley who operate from such a poor knowledge base when it comes to BASIC economic principles.

It's embarrassing.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

So much for any hope of investment analysis here.
I listened to that 6/7 stuff Xmas day with my grand nephew thank you very much!

It's really hard to believe that there are people that actually graduated from the University of California at Berkeley who operate from such a poor knowledge base when it comes to BASIC economic principles.

It's embarrassing.



Go Bears!
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

Thomas Del Beccaro, part-time Lafayette resident:

"Obama became the first president in United States history not to have a quarter reach 3% growth."

The Fed was wrong again (on GDP growth). Why?

TDB: "The U.S. has had 5 major income tax reforms in its history prior to 2025. All 5 times, the many naysayers said the reform would increase the deficit.

"All 5 times they were wrong because as a result of the reforms of the 1920s, 1960s, 1980s, 2003-05, and 2017, the economy expanded at a higher rate than before the tax reforms - and tax receipts rose."


It's clear that you are terribly gullible to erroneous and flat-out false GOP talking points.
You've shown a pattern of this in your posts about the economy in this forum.
Let me help educate you.

If you actually bothered to look it up, quarterly GDP under Obama was in fact > 3% eight times during his Presidency.
I believe there were 4 quarters > 4%

In fact, GDP hit 5.0% in Q3 of 2014.




As for the budget deficit, it did not go down after 2017 tax reform.
It went straight up.

2017: $665
2018: $779
2019: $984
2020: $3,132



It would really help discussion in this forum if you were able to post from a solid knowledge base.
Instead of posting highly bogus political "talking points" that have nothing to do with reality.

Do better.


















Thank you for taking out the trash
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

Thomas Del Beccaro, part-time Lafayette resident:

"Obama became the first president in United States history not to have a quarter reach 3% growth."

The Fed was wrong again (on GDP growth). Why?

TDB: "The U.S. has had 5 major income tax reforms in its history prior to 2025. All 5 times, the many naysayers said the reform would increase the deficit.

"All 5 times they were wrong because as a result of the reforms of the 1920s, 1960s, 1980s, 2003-05, and 2017, the economy expanded at a higher rate than before the tax reforms - and tax receipts rose."


It's clear that you are terribly gullible to erroneous and flat-out false GOP talking points.
You've shown a pattern of this in your posts about the economy in this forum.
Let me help educate you.

If you actually bothered to look it up, quarterly GDP under Obama was in fact > 3% eight times during his Presidency.
I believe there were 4 quarters > 4%

In fact, GDP hit 5.0% in Q3 of 2014.




As for the budget deficit, it did not go down after 2017 tax reform.
It went straight up.

2017: $665
2018: $779
2019: $984
2020: $3,132



It would really help discussion in this forum if you were able to post from a solid knowledge base.
Instead of posting highly bogus political "talking points" that have nothing to do with reality.

Do better.


















Maybe what he meant was yearly growth? Agreed the quarterly growth comment isn't true but it is true for yearly growth numbers.

2009: -2.58%
2010: 2.7%
2011: 1.56%
2012: 2.29%
2013: 2.12%
2014: 2.52%
2015: 2.95%
2016: 1.82%

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/gdp-growth-rate


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What's with the word "groceries"? Such a quaint term.
And he's in charge of affordability. Ok.

https://vincemancini.substack.com/p/donald-trump-groceries-obsession
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DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

y iSo why would there be any need to LOWER THE FED FUNDS RATE?

Lower Fed rates provide relief by reducing refinancing costs for short-term debt, primarily $6-7 trillion in treasury bills. Short-term debt rolls over frequently, often multiple times per year, which is why Federal Reserve rate changes (like the recent cuts) provide immediate relief on refinancing costs.

Thanks for the Ai answer.
That's obvious.

You're welcome, now you know.

My question to you is - how many middle-aged white guys do you know named, "Jerome"?
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cal83dls79
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I'm doing the same with the NVIDA I bought over 5 years ago.
That's not the question. It's where it will be tomorrow, a month or when these people are dead. Oh boy.

*I'm at the tail end of the baby boomers. Those are my siblings dancing
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

You're welcome, now you know.

My question to you is - how many middle-aged white guys do you know named, "Jerome"?

I know only 1.
He lives in Traverse City and he drank so much Trump Kool-Aid that he turned brown.
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DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

You're welcome, now you know.

My question to you is - how many middle-aged white guys do you know named, "Jerome"?

I know only 1.
He lives in Traverse City and he drank so much Trump Kool-Aid that he turned brown.

That's kind of funny, bro.
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movielover said:

What happened to President Trump going to Fort Knox?


He LIED.
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cal83dls79 said:

I'm doing the same with the NVIDA I bought over 5 years ago.
That's not the question. It's where it will be tomorrow, a month or when these people are dead. Oh boy.

*I'm at the tail end of the baby boomers. Those are my siblings dancing

Congratulations for holding onto the stock for that long. You can't go wrong by taking some profits.
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This is actually pretty funny!

But after last week, Silver is probably the biggest short on the board.
Trading 89% above the 200 day MA will do that.

Only time that's been exceeded was 1979.

In the Hunt Brothers Squeeze . . . just before Jimmy Carter made a phone call to the COMEX and told them to put a stop to it because it was making him look bad. The Board decided to go 100% margin. Became liquidation only. But not before each one of the board members put massive shorts and bear spreads on. The rest is history.

$9.6 Billion in notional dollar volume on Friday in the SLV was the second highest in history since May 2011, just after the final peak. The action in SLV is clear evidence of a blowoff.



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PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

y iSo why would there be any need to LOWER THE FED FUNDS RATE?

Lower Fed rates provide relief by reducing refinancing costs for short-term debt, primarily $6-7 trillion in treasury bills. Short-term debt rolls over frequently, often multiple times per year, which is why Federal Reserve rate changes (like the recent cuts) provide immediate relief on refinancing costs.

Thanks for the Ai answer.
That's obvious.

You're welcome, now you know.

My question to you is - how many middle-aged white guys do you know named, "Jerome"?

I once met a woman who claimed she had a relative that thought he was St. Jerome.
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Did you tell her you knew St. Peter?
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DiabloWags said:

This is actually pretty funny!

But after last week, Silver is probably the biggest short on the board.
Trading 89% above the 200 day MA will do that.

Only time that's been exceeded was 1979.

In the Hunt Brothers Squeeze . . . just before Jimmy Carter made a phone call to the COMEX and told them to put a stop to it because it was making him look bad. The Board decided to go 100% margin. Became liquidation only. But not before each one of the board members put massive shorts and bear spreads on. The rest is history.

$9.6 Billion in notional dollar volume on Friday in the SLV was the second highest in history since May 2011, just after the final peak. The action in SLV is clear evidence of a blowoff.



What proportion of the silver trade is done in China these days, and wouldn't the same forces that have pushed gold up also apply to silver.
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I've been reading that's already baked in.
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Fun Fact:

In 1986 I was a member of the COMEX.

I was a floor trader in the Gold pit for Tudor Investment Company (Paul Tudor Jones). Feel free to do the Wiki.

In '86, Gold was so BORING and locked in a range between $340 - $350 that we would occasionally blow up a beach ball and bat it around in the trading ring . . . while phone clerks were quoting the market to banks in London and clients in China and Hong Kong.

When a Swiss Bank recommended increased exposure to 4% in their clients portfolios, we finally broke out above $350 and experienced a rally up to $425.

We went from trading 20,000 contracts a day to 100,000 a day. It gave me a glimpse of what it was like back in 1979 - 1980. Nothing like flipping 100 contracts at a clip.

It was AMAZING!!!
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