BearChemist said:

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BearNIt said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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okaydo said:

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/coronavirus-crisis-ron-desantis-florida-covid-19-strategy/

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Where does Ron DeSantis go to apologize to everyone who people asked to apologize to him?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-florida/florida-reports-over-15000-covid-19-cases-in-single-day-record-idUSKCN24D0I5

Florida had more people test positive yesterday alone than South Korea (2.5x as many people) has had test positive since day one.

I'm hoping someone can save Florida from Trump and DeSantis.

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We are reaching the point of no return where closing down will be the only way to stop the spread of COVID from overwhelming Florida's healthcare system and once that happens doctors will have to play God and decide who gets treatment, who gets the ventilator, who gets the bed. and who gets the medication. That is where we are headed if we don't make a course correction now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/coronavirus-strains-florida-health-system-as-some-hospitals-run-out-of-icu-beds-in-largest-counties.html

This was accurate 5 days ago and Florida is setting records for new COVID cases most if not all the days since then. How many more people since the article have been admitted to Florida ICUs for COVID? How many Floridians have been admitted to ICUs for non-COVID health issues? There is a finite amount of resources that a healthcare system has and that also includes staff that is trained in the care of ICU and PACU patients. It takes time to train staff including doctors to deal with patient's needing this level of care.

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Hello BearNIt, would like to ask your opinion on Remdesivir, which seems to provide moderate to decent effects in treating Covid-19 patients. Is this drug currently being used in the frontline? How is the production/supply coming along?

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Remdesivir is produced by Gilead Sciences Inc a U.S. company and is an antiviral. It stops the virus from making copies of itself by blocking a specific enzyme. The current use of Remdesivir is for those patients that are critical and likely in the ICU. Although Remdesivir can shorten recovery time, there are also side effects from its use. One such side effect is hepatotoxicity and that is why monitoring liver function in those patients is extremely important because they are already in a weakened state.

World Takes Stock of COVID-19 Drug Remdesivir After US Snaps Up Supplies
By Sangmi Cha, Andreas Rinke and Alistair Smout

July 02, 2020


SEOUL/BERLIN/LONDON (Reuters) - Some governments in Europe and Asia said on Wednesday they have enough of Gilead's COVID-19 anti-viral remdesivir for now despite fears of shortages since the U.S. drugmaker pledged most output to its home market for the next three months.

The pharmaceutical company's move stirred the global debate about equitable access to drugs and brought concerns about accessibility, especially in regions where coronavirus rates are still high or there have been new outbreaks.

Remdesivir is in high demand after the intravenously-administered medicine helped shorten hospital recovery times in a clinical trial. It is believed to be most effective in treating COVID-19 patients earlier in the course of disease than other therapies like the steroid dexamethasone.

Still, because remdesivir is given intravenously over at least a five-day period it is generally being used on patients sick enough to require hospitalisation.

Britain and Germany said they had sufficient reserves for now, though they were weighing options for when those might be exhausted.

South Korea, for its part, has started distributing stocks, but plans talks to purchase more supplies in August.
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) this week said it had secured all of Gilead's projected production for July and 90% of its production in August and September, in addition to an allocation for clinical trials.

The European Union (EU) said on Wednesday it was in negotiations to obtain doses for its 27 member nations.
"SUPPLY CHAINS UNDER STRAIN"

"The buying-up of remdesivir is disappointing news, not necessarily because of the shortages it implies for other countries, but because it so clearly signals an unwillingness to cooperate with other countries, and the chilling effect this has on international agreements about intellectual property rights," said Ohid Yaqub, senior lecturer at the Science Policy Research Unit of Britain's University of Sussex.

Jonathan Van-Tam, deputy chief medical officer and lead for Britain's Department for Health and Social Care, told a parliamentary hearing on Wednesday that new drugs such as remdesivir were likely to be in "relatively short supply in the first instance" versus existing generic ones like dexamethasone.

The German health ministry said that the conditional market approval Gilead is expected to receive from the EU's executive Commission this week carries an implied obligation to deliver sufficient quantities in the future.

"We trust Gilead will meet this obligation," it said.

Gilead has said it linked up with generic drugmakers based in India and Pakistan to supply remdesivir in 127 developing countries, but it has not discussed in detail its supply strategy for developed nations outside the United States.

"The issue is the high demand for a drug that is still an investigational medicine and probably had not been scaled up to a manufacturing level when the outbreak occurred," said Gino Martini, the UK Royal Pharmaceutical Society's chief scientist.

"The U.S. action means clinical supply chains will be under strain. It will be down to manufacturers Gilead to boost production in order to satisfy demand for the use of remdesivir."

Per Gilead:

As of January 2020, we were not actively manufacturing remdesivir. The manufacturing supply chain was scaled to periodically make small amounts of product for a compound in early development. We had inventory of finished product to treat just 5,000 patients.

Since then, we have proactively and rapidly scaled our supply chain. As of late March, using the active ingredient we already had in our inventory, we have increased our supply. We have worked over the past several months to improve processes, shorten timelines and increase volumes as we work to bring remdesivir to patients as soon as possible.

Our goal is to produce a total of:

• More than 190,000 treatment courses by the end of June 2020
• More than 2 million treatment courses by December 2020
• Several million treatment courses in 2021, if required

Most of this production will stay in the U.S. in the short term.


Hope this helps answer your question.

High rates of positive tests is good -- if the death rate stays miniscule and low rates of life threatening symptoms.

One course of action that aided the fear pornographers was accommodating the mass looting, terrorism and illegal protesting.

The losers spreading fear porn about restaurants but were clapping their hands as cities were burning down and thousands were packed like sardines in public streets are too wrapped up in their own agenda.

Have you ever sat on a bench at Disneyland for half an hour and people watched? 75% of the "guests" are obese. Covid 19 cannon fodder.

bearister said:

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Have you ever sat on a bench at Disneyland for half an hour and people watched? 75% of the "guests" are obese. Covid 19 cannon fodder.

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Go watch a youtube on the opening of Disneyland. Everyone is skinny. It's an amazing difference from today.

Fast food.

bearister said:

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Fast food.

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You gotta replace cigarettes with something.

bearister said:

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Have you ever sat on a bench at Disneyland for half an hour and people watched? 75% of the "guests" are obese. Covid 19 cannon fodder.

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I'd rather people watch at Costco

bearister said:

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Fast food.

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General Mills and others paid off the FDA to peddle junk nutrition science (remember the food pyramid from the 80's and 90's -- get your grains folks! lol) that was devastating.

Meat and vegetables -- it's the only sh*t we should be eating. Dairy is poison, grains are poison, complex carbs are poison, and sugar is cancer.

The issue with "fast food" isn't that it's processed, low quality foods, it's that it's a lot of starchy carbs (bun and fries) and fried foods, which are also high calorie.

As far as the obesity thing goes, I always wonder at what point do you look in the mirror and be like "ok, this is out of hand. I need to change". I have to image it intuitively is occurring well before they have to shop at the fat people store.

BearChemist said:

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BearNIt said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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okaydo said:

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/coronavirus-crisis-ron-desantis-florida-covid-19-strategy/

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Where does Ron DeSantis go to apologize to everyone who people asked to apologize to him?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-florida/florida-reports-over-15000-covid-19-cases-in-single-day-record-idUSKCN24D0I5

Florida had more people test positive yesterday alone than South Korea (2.5x as many people) has had test positive since day one.

I'm hoping someone can save Florida from Trump and DeSantis.

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We are reaching the point of no return where closing down will be the only way to stop the spread of COVID from overwhelming Florida's healthcare system and once that happens doctors will have to play God and decide who gets treatment, who gets the ventilator, who gets the bed. and who gets the medication. That is where we are headed if we don't make a course correction now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/coronavirus-strains-florida-health-system-as-some-hospitals-run-out-of-icu-beds-in-largest-counties.html

This was accurate 5 days ago and Florida is setting records for new COVID cases most if not all the days since then. How many more people since the article have been admitted to Florida ICUs for COVID? How many Floridians have been admitted to ICUs for non-COVID health issues? There is a finite amount of resources that a healthcare system has and that also includes staff that is trained in the care of ICU and PACU patients. It takes time to train staff including doctors to deal with patient's needing this level of care.

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Hello BearNIt, would like to ask your opinion on Remdesivir, which seems to provide moderate to decent effects in treating Covid-19 patients. Is this drug currently being used in the frontline? How is the production/supply coming along?

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"In addition to ventilation, oxygen, and proning, doctors are prescribing the antiviral remdesivir and dexamethasone, a steroid, to treat COVID-19 patients. Sometimes blood thinners are used if the patient has clotting complications. They also use convalescent plasma from recovered COVID patients."


(Source: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aTXRWuO8Wy4J:https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2020/07/10/what-its-like-inside-arizona-coronavirus-icu-surge-pushes-hospitals-limits/5396107002/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)[url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjM0fCg7cjqAhVDM6wKHSR5AqkQFjABegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.azcentral.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Farizona-health%2F2020%2F07%2F10%2Fwhat-its-like-inside-arizona-coronavirus-icu-surge-pushes-hospitals-limits%2F5396107002%2F&usg=AOvVaw0tDuHPHLB-bleyibGGGMv4][/url]

GBear4Life said:

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bearister said:

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Fast food.

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General Mills and others paid off the FDA to peddle junk nutrition science (remember the food pyramid from the 80's and 90's -- get your grains folks! lol) that was devastating.

Meat and vegetables -- it's the only sh*t we should be eating. Dairy is poison, grains are poison, complex carbs are poison, and sugar is cancer.

The issue with "fast food" isn't that it's processed, low quality foods, it's that it's a lot of starchy carbs (bun and fries) and fried foods, which are also high calorie.

As far as the obesity thing goes, I always wonder at what point do you look in the mirror and be like "ok, this is out of hand. I need to change". I have to image it intuitively is occurring well before they have to shop at the fat people store.

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What about Dr. Andrew Weil's Anti Inflammatory Food Pyramid:

It turns out that all the protests did not make one immune to COVID as has been reported by many liberal media outlets.

oops

hanky1 said:

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Dear Team Apocalypse,

Where is your God now?

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Hey remember this comment from Liberal God Anthony Fauci?

hanky1 said:

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hanky1 said:

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Dear Team Apocalypse,

Where is your God now?

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Hey remember this comment from Liberal God Anthony Fauci?

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Nothing like the administration sandbagging the expert that Captain Catastrophe and his Merry Band of Idiots chose to lead the scientific arm of their response to COVID 19. Fauci is now being vilified by the administration. So much for serving multiple Presidents and dealing with the Aid's crisis.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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sycasey said:

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hanky1 said:

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It turns out that all the protests did not make one immune to COVID as has been reported by many liberal media outlets.

oops

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No one said protests made you immune, just that they didn't seem to be big disease spreader events. Is there any new evidence to the contrary?

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Evidence? EVIDENCE? Hanky don't need no evidence!

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All I could find was this one Fox News story about a doctor at the Hoover Institution (conservative think tank) claiming that coronavirus surges could be blamed on the protests (and Mexicans, natch).

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-atlas-coronavirus-surges-linked-mostly-to-protests-and-proximity-to-us-mexico-border

His evidence seems a little weak. Florida has the largest surge and wasn't heavily affected by either factor.

This is interesting

Memes have become reality

dajo9 said:

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This is a tough time in America with regards to Covid-19. It's clear that Trump has failed after all these months to put in place an effective testing, tracing, and quarantine plan. Now things are out of control and good responses at the local level are hard to pin down.

I have respect for any politician or person who is earnestly making a good faith effort to make things better. I have no respect for willful ignorance or lies.

And I have no respect for pandemic trolls.

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dajo doesn't respect himself. I knew it. How could he?

sycasey said:

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No one said protests made you immune, just that they didn't seem to be big disease spreader events. Is there any new evidence to the contrary?

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Guys you heard it here: mass congregating doesn't seem to be a big deal. Go forth, prosper, eat at restaurants, forget SIP and social distancing and live your lives!

AunBear89 said:

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"The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."Bertrand Russell

Who would have thought that Bertrand Russel had met janky1, BearFarce2, GoldenOnenote, and GB4L?

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So you're supposed to be the intelligent one here, full of doubt?

AunBear89 said:

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Nope - but you and the other clowns are definitely cocksure idiots.

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i fully doubt it.

BearForce2 said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Nope - but you and the other clowns are definitely cocksure idiots.

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i fully doubt it.

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I think it escapes him how that quote insults and condemns him more than anyone.

sycasey said:

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hanky1 said:

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It turns out that all the protests did not make one immune to COVID as has been reported by many liberal media outlets.

oops

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No one said protests made you immune, just that they didn't seem to be big disease spreader events. Is there any new evidence to the contrary?

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I don't understand this. So, is it OK to shout and scream right next to each other during this pandemic? If not, then what is the explanation, if one is so sure that thousands standing shoulder to shoulder, some wearing masks other not, did not spread the virus. Do the protesters carry some miracle trick that can scale to the rest of the world?

calbear93 said:

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BearForce2 said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Nope - but you and the other clowns are definitely cocksure idiots.

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i fully doubt it.

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I think it escapes him how that quote insults and condemns him more than anyone.

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She could be a woman but I'm not cocksure.