bearister said:

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Coronavirus cases slowed down in California, Arizona, Texas and Florida - Axios


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-infections-spread-florida-california-texas-94aacba0-7351-42ec-b1f1-74d6dd3ef5c6.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top

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Hanky1 should start another no-biggie thread?

BearChemist said:

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bearister said:

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Coronavirus cases slowed down in California, Arizona, Texas and Florida - Axios


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-infections-spread-florida-california-texas-94aacba0-7351-42ec-b1f1-74d6dd3ef5c6.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top

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Hanky1 should start another no-biggie thread?

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A key point from the article that people don't ever seem to get:

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That doesn't mean we're getting better. The U.S. may be leveling off, but it's leveling off at a very high rate of infection. The country is averaging roughly 66,000 new cases per day.

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Cases didn't slow down. RISE in new cases slowed down. So for instance if your days go:

day 1: 100 cases
day 2: 300 cases
day 3: 700 cases
day 4: 1200 cases
day 5: 1300 cases
day 6: 1400 cases
day 7: 1400 cases

Day 5, 6, 7 the increase in new cases is slowing down. Doesn't mean it is good. The more cases you get the more the percentage increase will look "better" but that mostly just means you can't really get much worse.

Axios didn't want you to enjoy quasi positive news for too long:

Coronavirus may never be eradicated but it might be controlled - Axios


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-persisting-control-vaccine-c2fd6e17-8b26-46cf-9177-69d27c9a86ea.html


...and then for a Grand Slam warm and fuzzy:

"While many California officials have said the coronavirus pandemic could grip our state for another year, Santa Clara County Executive Officer Jeff Smith suggested in an interview with KPIX Wednesday night the timeline could be even longer.
Smith said because a vaccine has never been developed against the common cold or any other coronavirus, "there will never be a vaccine that will be effective."
Due to the lack of a vaccine, he said we will be "doing what is more equivalent to spot fire treatment and struggling for the next 10 years."

Updates: Bay Area official warns COVID-19 may be here for up to 10 years - SFGate


https://www.sfgate.com/news/editor*****s/article/Japanese-Tea-Garden-opens-San-Francisco-15428654.php

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These duplicitous Republicans thought that it was a big deal:
https://www.businessinsider.com/rnc-purchase-face-masks-covid-coronavirus-trump-republicans-building-maintenance-2020-7?op=1&scrolla=5eb6d68b7fedc32c19ef33b4

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d'oh -> link bounced off a paywall. a summary maybe, other than "rnc-purchase-face-masks-covid-coronavirus-trump-republicans-building-maintenance"?

tnx, pb

"Think "building maintenance," and you probably imagine plumbing, a new coat of paint, or a replacement toilet-paper dispenser.

But when the Republican National Committee in June spent more than $14,000 on "building maintenance," none of its facilities were getting a face-lift.

Instead, the RNC purchased face masks designed to limit the spread of COVID-19, according to Insider interviews and a review of federal campaign-finance disclosures released earlier this week.

The RNC ordered the masks at a time when President Donald Trump and other prominent Republicans were refusing to cover their faces in public. The purchases show Republican leaders were taking the coronavirus more seriously than they'd been publicly letting on.

"They didn't buy lacrosse sticks or baseball bats," said Jake McCampbell, who confirmed his California-based sporting-goods company StringKingscored a $9,301 mask order from the RNC.

Kim Williams, who owns I Bambini Clothing in Texas, also confirmed the RNC last month bought $4,500 worth of "handmade cloth masks" from her small company, which mainly makes clothes for children.

Both McCampbell and Williams credited their made-in-America lines of cloth face masks with helping keep their finances afloat and their workers employed at a time when many US businesses are struggling to survive.

StringKing, I Bambini Clothing, and two other vendors from which the RNC purchased its "building maintenance" on June 10 sell one item in common: COVID-19 face masks.

The RNC declined to comment on the nature of its "building maintenance" purchase, or why it publicly described protective face masks as such.

"As a general rule, we don't itemize beyond what is required" by the Federal Election Commission, the committee said in a statement to Insider.

Following publication of this article, RNC spokesperson Cassie Smedile told Insider that "there was no obfuscation" on the committee's part.

"When we buy pens and pencils, the description is not 'pens and pencils' on the FEC report," she said. "These generic descriptions are traditionally how expenses are reported and processed."

That's mostly, but not entirely true: The RNC disclosed a purchase of "pens" in a 2012 FEC report. More recently, on May 20, the committee disclosed a "paper supplies" purchase of $324, and it's also reported several instances of "painting services" and "painting costs" over the years.

Legal or not?

Did the RNC violate federal campaign rules with its misleading spending disclosure? No, three election-law attorneys said.

That's because neither Congress nor the FEC has required the RNC or any political committee to provide more than broad descriptions of its purchases, said Erin Chlopak, the director of campaign-finance strategy for the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center.

Karl Sandstrom, a former Democratic FEC commissioner, described the finagling of political-spending disclosures as "a practiced art" among political-campaign accountants.

The FEC almost certainly would not penalize the RNC for describing COVID-19 face-mask purchases as "building maintenance," Sandstrom added not that the FEC could even do so, considering it doesn't have enough commissioners right now.

Bradley Smith, a former Republican chairman of the FEC, said it was "entirely appropriate" for the RNC to pay for COVID-19 face masks using its national party-building fund, an obscure class of political money created by Congress in 2014 as part of its "cromnibus" spending bill.

"They do not benefit particular candidates, they are a safety measure akin to repairing emergency exits and maintaining fire extinguishers," Smith, who is now the chairman of the nonprofit Institute for Free Speech, said. "They are a normal cost in maintaining and operating the facility, as provided by law."..."

chazzed said:

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"Think "building maintenance," and you probably imagine plumbing, a new coat of paint, or a replacement toilet-paper dispenser.

But when the Republican National Committee in June spent more than $14,000 on "building maintenance," none of its facilities were getting a face-lift.

Instead, the RNC purchased face masks designed to limit the spread of COVID-19, according to Insider interviews and a review of federal campaign-finance disclosures released earlier this week.

The RNC ordered the masks at a time when President Donald Trump and other prominent Republicans were refusing to cover their faces in public. The purchases show Republican leaders were taking the coronavirus more seriously than they'd been publicly letting on.

"They didn't buy lacrosse sticks or baseball bats," said Jake McCampbell, who confirmed his California-based sporting-goods company StringKingscored a $9,301 mask order from the RNC.

Kim Williams, who owns I Bambini Clothing in Texas, also confirmed the RNC last month bought $4,500 worth of "handmade cloth masks" from her small company, which mainly makes clothes for children.

Both McCampbell and Williams credited their made-in-America lines of cloth face masks with helping keep their finances afloat and their workers employed at a time when many US businesses are struggling to survive.

StringKing, I Bambini Clothing, and two other vendors from which the RNC purchased its "building maintenance" on June 10 sell one item in common: COVID-19 face masks.

The RNC declined to comment on the nature of its "building maintenance" purchase, or why it publicly described protective face masks as such.

"As a general rule, we don't itemize beyond what is required" by the Federal Election Commission, the committee said in a statement to Insider.

Following publication of this article, RNC spokesperson Cassie Smedile told Insider that "there was no obfuscation" on the committee's part.

"When we buy pens and pencils, the description is not 'pens and pencils' on the FEC report," she said. "These generic descriptions are traditionally how expenses are reported and processed."

That's mostly, but not entirely true: The RNC disclosed a purchase of "pens" in a 2012 FEC report. More recently, on May 20, the committee disclosed a "paper supplies" purchase of $324, and it's also reported several instances of "painting services" and "painting costs" over the years.

Legal or not?

Did the RNC violate federal campaign rules with its misleading spending disclosure? No, three election-law attorneys said.

That's because neither Congress nor the FEC has required the RNC or any political committee to provide more than broad descriptions of its purchases, said Erin Chlopak, the director of campaign-finance strategy for the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center.

Karl Sandstrom, a former Democratic FEC commissioner, described the finagling of political-spending disclosures as "a practiced art" among political-campaign accountants.

The FEC almost certainly would not penalize the RNC for describing COVID-19 face-mask purchases as "building maintenance," Sandstrom added not that the FEC could even do so, considering it doesn't have enough commissioners right now.

Bradley Smith, a former Republican chairman of the FEC, said it was "entirely appropriate" for the RNC to pay for COVID-19 face masks using its national party-building fund, an obscure class of political money created by Congress in 2014 as part of its "cromnibus" spending bill.

"They do not benefit particular candidates, they are a safety measure akin to repairing emergency exits and maintaining fire extinguishers," Smith, who is now the chairman of the nonprofit Institute for Free Speech, said. "They are a normal cost in maintaining and operating the facility, as provided by law."..."

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Why couldn't that have called it PPE, safety equipment, or even industrial supplies? Building maintenance?

Good question. Maybe their instinct now is to obfuscate.

Team Apocalypse is doing everything they possibly can to continue the shutdown through the election so they can blame Trump. So now apparently the data from CA is all flawed. Huh? If it's flawed now, what's to say anything was accurate before?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-05/coronavirus-test-results-collecting-hampering-pandemic-response

"Never has a virus been this oversold"

Great article. Basically my entire point.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/never-has-a-virus-been-so-oversold

AunBear89 said:

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Not an article. An opinion piece by a fiction writer who has some rather rightish ideas.

Try again. You CONS aren't very good at sourcing unbiased information to support your opinions.

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Whatever you want to label it, it was a good read.

hanky1 said:

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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-05/coronavirus-test-results-collecting-hampering-pandemic-response

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paywall'd link

paywalling questions all withdrawn, after getting leaked top secret advice (tell no one, puhlease):
paywalls crumble if revolutionaries disable javascript.

how to do that on your browser left as an exercise for the grasshopper.
erm, or ask your gran-kids.

# Safari Rocks.. "Big Time" ***

*** ---> internets-wide patents pending

smh said:

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hanky1 said:

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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-05/coronavirus-test-results-collecting-hampering-pandemic-response

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paywall'd link

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Easily avoided

sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Not an article. An opinion piece by a fiction writer who has some rather rightish ideas.

Try again. You CONS aren't very good at sourcing unbiased information to support your opinions.

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Whatever you want to label it, it was a good read.

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The numbers she presents up front seem pretty questionable: is she taking the FULL death total of the 1957 flu pandemic and comparing them to CURRENT total for COVID-19? That's what it looks like to me. If so, she has no credibility when talking about other people being unable to do simple math. The COVID pandemic is not over. It's probably still in the first wave. There's no reason to compare the current pandemic to an earlier one that already ran its course over two years. It's like saying Aaron Rodgers only has 2,000 passing yards after 7 games therefore he couldn't possibly reach last season's total of 4,002.

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Also a good read:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/06/01/lionel-shriver-is-looking-for-trouble

Matthew Patel said:

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> Easily avoided

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naww, after the Ted Rall business no way no how giving no money to times ownership.

wiki wiki grab..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Rall

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[lawsuit] Dismissal from the Los Angeles Times

In July 2015, the Los Angeles Times released a "note to readers" stating that Rall had been dropped from the paper because of allegations that he had lied about a police encounter in 2001. The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) claimed that Rall misrepresented the encounter in a May 2015 opinion blog post he wrote about enforcement of jaywalking laws in Los Angeles.

LAPD Chief Charlie Beck, whom Rall had repeatedly mocked in his cartoons for the LA Times, provided a copy of an audio recording of the encounter (the location of the original microcassette, and whether it still exists, remains unknown) that the LA Times found to "raise serious questions about the accuracy of Rall's blog post". The LA Times told readers the source was the LAPD, protecting Beck's anonymity despite the newspaper's ethics policies, which prohibit the use of anonymous sources. Rall stood by his version of the incident. Another version of the recording, which Rall posted online after having it restored by sound engineers, included sounds of bystanders talking. One person is heard saying "you need to take off the [unintelligible]" which may have referred to handcuffs.

The Association of American Editorial Cartoonists issued a statement calling for an independent investigation of the tape. On August 19, the LA Times issued a lengthy statement reaffirming its conclusion that Rall's original blog post "did not meet its standards". In it, they reported they had the audio recording investigated by two audio and video forensics experts and it still did not support Rall's version of the event.

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deep pocket rep filibuster always (?) wins lawsuits.

tmi from years ago: https://observer.com/2016/03/cartoonist-ted-rall-to-sue-la-times-for-defamation

# gob ears

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Matthew Patel said:

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> Easily avoided

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naww, after the Ted Rall business no way no how giving no money to times ownership.

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No I mean you don't have to pay to read LA Times online stuff. Or any newspaper.

Matthew Patel said:

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No I mean you don't have to pay to read LA Times online stuff. Or any newspaper.

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so spill already, most wise one. signed, clueless in cupertino

bearister said:

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The Conservative non expert opinion piece in no way mitigates the fact that tRump botched the handling of the pandemic compared to most of the other countries in the world with advanced economies.

When tRump was called to task on it by Jonathan Swan during the Axios interview, he appeared to be little more than a befuddled old man frantically searching for a receipt from the market amongst a stack of old newspapers.

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The Unique U.S. Failure to Control the Virus


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/us/coronavirus-us.html

sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Not an article. An opinion piece by a fiction writer who has some rather rightish ideas.

Try again. You CONS aren't very good at sourcing unbiased information to support your opinions.

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Whatever you want to label it, it was a good read.

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The numbers she presents up front seem pretty questionable: is she taking the FULL death total of the 1957 flu pandemic and comparing it to the CURRENT total for COVID-19? That's what it looks like to me. If so, she has no credibility when talking about other people being unable to do simple math. The COVID pandemic is not over. It's probably still in the first wave. There's no reason to compare the current pandemic to an earlier one that already ran its course over two years. It's like saying Aaron Rodgers only has 2,000 passing yards after 7 games therefore he couldn't possibly reach last season's total of 4,002.

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That is a fairly biased and slanted reading of what she is saying.

Unit2Sucks said:

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What's disingenuous is to assume that the results after having much of the world shelter in place for several months are evidence that we shouldn't have sheltered in place.

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Yeah, that was another part I didn't even get to.

Matthew Patel said:

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sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Not an article. An opinion piece by a fiction writer who has some rather rightish ideas.

Try again. You CONS aren't very good at sourcing unbiased information to support your opinions.

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Whatever you want to label it, it was a good read.

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The numbers she presents up front seem pretty questionable: is she taking the FULL death total of the 1957 flu pandemic and comparing it to the CURRENT total for COVID-19? That's what it looks like to me. If so, she has no credibility when talking about other people being unable to do simple math. The COVID pandemic is not over. It's probably still in the first wave. There's no reason to compare the current pandemic to an earlier one that already ran its course over two years. It's like saying Aaron Rodgers only has 2,000 passing yards after 7 games therefore he couldn't possibly reach last season's total of 4,002.

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That is a fairly biased and slanted reading of what she is saying.

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No, that's pretty much down-the-line what she says right up front.

sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Not an article. An opinion piece by a fiction writer who has some rather rightish ideas.

Try again. You CONS aren't very good at sourcing unbiased information to support your opinions.

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Whatever you want to label it, it was a good read.

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The numbers she presents up front seem pretty questionable: is she taking the FULL death total of the 1957 flu pandemic and comparing it to the CURRENT total for COVID-19? That's what it looks like to me. If so, she has no credibility when talking about other people being unable to do simple math. The COVID pandemic is not over. It's probably still in the first wave. There's no reason to compare the current pandemic to an earlier one that already ran its course over two years. It's like saying Aaron Rodgers only has 2,000 passing yards after 7 games therefore he couldn't possibly reach last season's total of 4,002.

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That is a fairly biased and slanted reading of what she is saying.

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No, that's pretty much down-the-line what she says right up front.

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Well, then allow me to add the parts you ignored.

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In a recent Kekst CNC poll, British respondents estimated that nearly 7 per cent of the UK population has died from the coronavirus. That would be 4.5 million people. Scots supposed that more than 10 per cent of the UK population has died. That would be seven million people. Astonishingly, Americans believed that Covid has killed 9 per cent of their compatriots, or almost 30 million people! The real US total has indeed crossed the milestone of 150,000, but for pity's sake, 'only' 20 million people died in the first world war.

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Our very own Matthew Parris (many of whose columns I admire) is not immune to Covid Hyperbole Syndrome. His last column alludes to this virus 'killing millions worldwide', a phrase that sailed unmolested past pernickety editors and fact-checkers at this magazine. But the true worldwide death toll at the time was about 650,000.

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I'd argue for improved British education in maths, except it seems Britain doesn't do education any more. So let's instead take those exaggerated impressions of lethality as proof of a stupendously successful propaganda campaign.

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The graph of new cases in the UK roughly leveled off throughout July but it has not plateaued at zero. The PM gives every indication that only zero will do. Thus as long as the coronavirus persists, the fearful prophylactic measures will continue. In trade for this valiant vigilance on our behalf, we merely have to sacrifice: our friends. Any new friends. All live performance music, plays. Restaurants. All occasions, like proper weddings, funerals, birthdays and extended--family celebrations. Travel. Colleagues. Any search for love. Any moving communal experience, like festivals. Dentistry. A functional National Health Service. Oh, and the economy and in case you need translation, that means the country, full stop.

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There will be a new contagion, too, and a new one after that. How many times can you send the national debt soaring, devastate small business, paralyse government services including health care and cancel for months on end the civil liberties of an erstwhile 'free people'? In preference to this repeated carpet-bombing, a literal nuclear option might at least get the agony over with fast.

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sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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sycasey said:

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Matthew Patel said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Not an article. An opinion piece by a fiction writer who has some rather rightish ideas.

Try again. You CONS aren't very good at sourcing unbiased information to support your opinions.

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Whatever you want to label it, it was a good read.

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The numbers she presents up front seem pretty questionable: is she taking the FULL death total of the 1957 flu pandemic and comparing it to the CURRENT total for COVID-19? That's what it looks like to me. If so, she has no credibility when talking about other people being unable to do simple math. The COVID pandemic is not over. It's probably still in the first wave. There's no reason to compare the current pandemic to an earlier one that already ran its course over two years. It's like saying Aaron Rodgers only has 2,000 passing yards after 7 games therefore he couldn't possibly reach last season's total of 4,002.

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That is a fairly biased and slanted reading of what she is saying.

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No, that's pretty much down-the-line what she says right up front.

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Well, then allow me to add the parts you ignored.

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In a recent Kekst CNC poll, British respondents estimated that nearly 7 per cent of the UK population has died from the coronavirus. That would be 4.5 million people. Scots supposed that more than 10 per cent of the UK population has died. That would be seven million people. Astonishingly, Americans believed that Covid has killed 9 per cent of their compatriots, or almost 30 million people! The real US total has indeed crossed the milestone of 150,000, but for pity's sake, 'only' 20 million people died in the first world war.

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Our very own Matthew Parris (many of whose columns I admire) is not immune to Covid Hyperbole Syndrome. His last column alludes to this virus 'killing millions worldwide', a phrase that sailed unmolested past pernickety editors and fact-checkers at this magazine. But the true worldwide death toll at the time was about 650,000.

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Quote:

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I'd argue for improved British education in maths, except it seems Britain doesn't do education any more. So let's instead take those exaggerated impressions of lethality as proof of a stupendously successful propaganda campaign.

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Quote:

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The graph of new cases in the UK roughly leveled off throughout July but it has not plateaued at zero. The PM gives every indication that only zero will do. Thus as long as the coronavirus persists, the fearful prophylactic measures will continue. In trade for this valiant vigilance on our behalf, we merely have to sacrifice: our friends. Any new friends. All live performance music, plays. Restaurants. All occasions, like proper weddings, funerals, birthdays and extended--family celebrations. Travel. Colleagues. Any search for love. Any moving communal experience, like festivals. Dentistry. A functional National Health Service. Oh, and the economy and in case you need translation, that means the country, full stop.

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There will be a new contagion, too, and a new one after that. How many times can you send the national debt soaring, devastate small business, paralyse government services including health care and cancel for months on end the civil liberties of an erstwhile 'free people'? In preference to this repeated carpet-bombing, a literal nuclear option might at least get the agony over with fast.

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So she is accusing other people of delivering incorrect or misleading numbers while dialing up more than a few herself. Great.

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I'm accusing you of making misleading statements given that you either:

a) cannot read English
b) can read English, but choose to obfuscate or just outright lie about what you read.

https://www.kekstcnc.com/media/2793/kekstcnc_research_covid-19_opinion_tracker_wave-4.pdf
Page 24

Oh, and thanks for the wikipedia link, except you missed some important information in the data.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957%E2%80%931958_influenza_pandemic

The case fatality rate of Asian flu was approximately 0.67%.[12] The disease was estimated to have a 3% rate of complications and 0.3% mortality in the United Kingdom;[3] it could cause pneumonia by itself without the presence of secondary bacterial infection. It may have infected as many as or more people than the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, but the vaccine, improved health care, and the invention of antibiotics to manage opportunistic bacterial infections contributed to a lower mortality rate.[1] Estimates of the number of deaths worldwide vary, with the UK government estimating between one and four million and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimating 1.1 million.[1][2][13][14][15] For some reason, sycasey thinks wikipedia is a good source for getting accurate death tolls. According to a study in the Journal of Infectious Diseases, the highest excess mortality occurred in Latin America.[16] About 70,000 to 116,000 people died in the United States, and an estimated 33,000 deaths in the United Kingdom were attributed to the 195758 flu outbreak.[1][11][13][17] It caused many infections in children, spread in schools, and led to many school closures. However, the virus was rarely fatal in children and was most deadly in pregnant women, the elderly, and those with pre-existing heart and lung disease.[1] In Germany, around 30,000 people died of the flu between September 1957 and April 1958.[18]

dimitrig said:

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To me the worst things about the pandemic are that it proves that people will not respond to a crisis unless they are directly impacted and that our federal government is completely useless to protect us in this sort of crisis.

If COVID-19 had been a lot deadlier - or it morphs into something more deadly - there would be a lot of dead Americans right now. We have been lucky, not good - if you can call 200K dead Americans lucky.

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I think people would've bought into this more if it had initially been sold better and would have kept up compliance better if communication were clearer.

True, our federal government is not the perfect system to tackle a problem like this, but a lot of it lies at the feet of one man.

That said, I just read an article somewhere about young people in Berlin and Paris throwing huge "pop-up" parties recently and when they interviewed the party-goers, they sounded A LOT like that dip ass in Florida from a few months ago. I was like, wait, I thought only American youths were this ignorant and undisciplined, Can these really be Europeans?!?

Big C said:

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dimitrig said:

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To me the worst things about the pandemic are that it proves that people will not respond to a crisis unless they are directly impacted and that our federal government is completely useless to protect us in this sort of crisis.

If COVID-19 had been a lot deadlier - or it morphs into something more deadly - there would be a lot of dead Americans right now. We have been lucky, not good - if you can call 200K dead Americans lucky.

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I think people would've bought into this more if it had initially been sold better and would have kept up compliance better if communication were clearer.

True, our federal government is not the perfect system to tackle a problem like this, but a lot of it lies at the feet of one man.

That said, I just read an article somewhere about young people in Berlin and Paris throwing huge "pop-up" parties recently and when they interviewed the party-goers, they sounded A LOT like that dip ass in Florida from a few months ago. I was like, wait, I thought only American youths were this ignorant and undisciplined, Can these really be Europeans?!?

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Youth is wasted on the young.