The Aaron Rodgers Positivity Thread Challenge

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First-ever UC Berkeley program trains, certifies psychedelic guides | University of California


https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/first-ever-uc-berkeley-program-trains-certifies-psychedelic-guides

*Is AR under consideration as a guest trainer?
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^ I can't believe Cal university resources and reputation (or what's left of it) are being wasted on this kind of quakery.
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bearister said:

First-ever UC Berkeley program trains, certifies psychedelic guides | University of California

https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/first-ever-uc-berkeley-program-trains-certifies-psychedelic-guides

*Is AR under consideration as a guest trainer?


Aaron could be the official ayahuasca provider of the UC Berkeley psychedelic training program!
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Cal88 said:

^ I can't believe Cal university resources and reputation (or what's left of it) are being wasted on this kind of quakery.


…and an argument can be made that skullduggery is involved.
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The vaccinated spread Covid, it appears the podcast hosts didn't know that.
Still believe that the vaccinated spread covid and the unvaccinated don't? Still believe that the shot is safe and effective? Still believe in coercing people to take drugs against their will, that informed consent doesn't matter? Still into vilifying those that don't share your views?
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Aaron Rodgers, 39, 'is dating the 26-year-old daughter of Bucks owner'



https://mol.im/a/11604883
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bearister said:

Aaron Rodgers, 39, 'is dating the 26-year-old daughter of Bucks owner'



https://mol.im/a/11604883

Finally,he's dating somebody age appropriate.
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dmh65 said:

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okaydo said:



The vaccinated spread Covid, it appears the podcast hosts didn't know that.
Still believe that the vaccinated spread covid and the unvaccinated don't? Still believe that the shot is safe and effective? Still believe in coercing people to take drugs against their will, that informed consent doesn't matter? Still into vilifying those that don't share your views?


Vaccinated people can get COVID, but because their immune system has already developed antibodies the peak viral load is lower, the chance of death is FAR less, and the chance of transmission is less. That is why even with vaccination, we should not have dropped mask wearing until the COVID pandemic died out.

Just came back from two weeks in Japan which is over 80% vaccinated and everyone still wears a mask in public, indoors and outdoors. They they are mourning the almost 60,000 people that have died from COVID over the last three years.

In the US with active aggressive resistance to mask wearing and vaccination, over 1,100,000 people have died. Almost 20 times more than Japan, despite most Japanese living in the worlds largest city, entirely dependent on mass transportation.

Meanwhile, in the US, deaths dropped dramatically after 50% of the population was vaccinated and the highest rates of death from COVID (or heart attack, "respiratory illness" or related illness) are in the states (or region of the state, ie Southern California) with the lowest rates of vaccination.
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calumnus said:

dmh65 said:

BearForce2 said:

okaydo said:



The vaccinated spread Covid, it appears the podcast hosts didn't know that.
Still believe that the vaccinated spread covid and the unvaccinated don't? Still believe that the shot is safe and effective? Still believe in coercing people to take drugs against their will, that informed consent doesn't matter? Still into vilifying those that don't share your views?


Vaccinated people can get COVID, but because their immune system has already developed antibodies the peak viral load is lower, the chance of death is FAR less, and the chance of transmission is less. That is why even with vaccination, we should not have dropped mask wearing until the COVID pandemic died out.

Just came back from two weeks in Japan which is over 80% vaccinated and everyone still wears a mask in public, indoors and outdoors. They they are mourning the almost 60,000 people that have died from COVID over the last three years.

In the US with active aggressive resistance to mask wearing and vaccination, over 1,100,000 people have died. Almost 20 times more than Japan, despite most Japanese living in the worlds largest city, entirely dependent on mass transportation.

Meanwhile, in the US, deaths dropped dramatically after 50% of the population was vaccinated and the highest rates of death from COVID (or heart attack, "respiratory illness" or related illness) are in the states (or region of the state, ie Southern California) with the lowest rates of vaccination.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7688188/

LIFESTYLE AND AWARENESS OF JAPANESE PEOPLE
According to experts, Japanese healthy lifestyles and distinct cultures, which vary significantly from the US or Europe, are the strength behind the early restraint. A recent report by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found people with underlying medical conditions such as heart disease, obesity, and diabetes are six times more likely to be hospitalized if they get COVID-19 and 12 times more likely to die. Compared to other developing nations, Japan has a low prevalence of co-morbidity, obesity, and diabetes due to its healthy eating habits and exercise habit [12]. The nutrition intake among Japanese people is well maintained, especially among the aged people who are most vulnerable to this disease.

The outbreak of a severe respiratory disease caused by an unknown virus was first introduced in the Hubei province of China in late December of 2019. The virus's criteria were quite similar to the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which was occurred in 2003 but was less deadly and more dispersed than SARS. The virus was later named the 2019 novel coronavirus (COVID-19) by World Health Organization (WHO) and was declared a pandemic in March 2020 because of its widespread globally. According to official estimates, over 33 million people worldwide are contaminated, and almost a million have died until September 28, 2020. There is evidence of continuous transmission of the virus on six continents [1].

Japan is a developing nation with 127 million people residing in 364 555 km2; most of the residents live in urban areas (91.8%). The population in the country is 347 per km2. Tokyo is the capital city where 550 000 foreigners (6158 people per kilometer per square meter) reside. This means that Tokyo has a population of 2.4 times that of New York City. According to Japan's present age structure, 27.7% of the overall population are adults between the ages of 60-79 years, and 8.5% are 80 years and older [2].

Furthermore, the Japanese population's estimated life expectancy is 85.03 years. In 2016, Japanese men reached an excellent healthy life expectancy of 72.14 years and women 74.79 years [3]. Life expectancy is growing as health awareness is rising, and death rates are declining as the three leading causes of death in Japan include cancer, heart disease, and brain disease. This paper is intended to explain the factors behind Japan's success in curbing the virus in the early stages in comparison to other developed countries despite its being a "senior age" country.

INCIDENCE PATTERN OF COVID-19 IN JAPAN
Japan was the third country to have the first COVID-19 case in January 2020 after Thailand. The country announced its first case on January 16, a returnee from Wuhan, China, and marked its first death case on February 13 due to Coronavirus, a woman in her 80s [3]. As of September 28, Japan has confirmed approximately 82 000 cases and 1545 deaths. A cursory view of the statistics may mean that Japan has had relatively moderate exposure to COVID-19 to date.

Figure 1 shows the incidence pattern of COVID-19 positive cases for the four peer countries of Japan. The incidence in Japan appears to be small compared to Russia and the United Kingdom. A short wave of infections seems to continue in Japan and South Korea. In the beginning, Japan's effective reproductive number was 1.38, and it had fallen <1, since early April when the US number was >1. Besides, it was calculated that approximately 80 percent of the infected people did not pass the infection to others.

Daily new cases by Japan, South Korea, Russia and UK (data from JHU CSSE COVID-19 Dashboard).
MORTALITY PATTERN OF COVID-19 IN JAPAN
With the virus spreading, it was soon found out that COVID-19 is an illness that threatens the elderly mainly, and Japan has more older adults per capita than any other country. The people of Japan are also thoroughly packed into huge cities. Despite all these, Japan faced few deaths from the beginning, along with only a 2.8% case fatality rate during the peak in April (Figure 2). In the case of the US, the case fatality rate was 14.5%, and in Italy, it was about 15% in the peak.

Case fatality rate trajectories of 6 countries by days after 100 confirmed cases.
Japan and the Italian population vary from other countries in their demographic characteristics. In terms of morbidity and death due to COVID-19, the distribution of elderly inhabitants' ages from Japan and Italy is important. The infection in older patients is more lethal, and so the higher case fatality rate is observed both in Japan and Italy. In contrast to Japan, Table 1 shows the age-specific deaths in Italy.

Case fatality rate by age groups in Italy and Japan
However, experts predicted that the primary SARS-CoV-2 virus circulating in most of Asia was the less-virulent B-type strain, although there is no strong evidence. In Japan, the most prevalent infected age is 20-29 years (22 833 cases), yet only two fatalities in this age was seen. On the other hand, Japan's most fatal age group is 80+ years (896 fatalities and 5093 cases as of September 30, 2020) [4].

GOVERNMENT RESPONSES
The Japanese Government took relatively early steps to prevent the mass spread of the virus. The main concept of Japan was to maximize the suppression of the virus and to minimize the socio-economic damage of the country. Japan has a high standard health care system, which covered the medical care for COVID-19 under national Health Insurance with a high quality of medical care and local health centers even in rural areas. The pandemic was addressed by the Japanese Government using the following measures.

DECLARATION OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY: JAPAN MODEL
After the initial report from China, Japan immediately revised its disease monitoring system to classify the suspected COVID-19 import cases. In the harbor of Yokohoma in Japan, the cruise ship Diamond Princess arrived with 3711 passengers and crew members on board, where a passenger disembarked from Hong Kong was tested positive earlier on February 1, and subsequently quarantined the entire ship for the next fourteen days. Later, 712 people (19.2%) were infected, and 13 died from the ship [5]. The response was then strengthened as the government demanded school closures; the government imposed restrictions on travel from China, South Korea, and other countries and revised health pandemic laws to include COVID-19 [5]. In late March, Tokyo's municipality advised people to stay home on weekends because of an upward increase in cases. On April 7, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe declared Tokyo and six other localities a national emergency, promoting social distancing and telework to reduce the virus's spread. This statement was revised on April 17 to encourage such acts nationally [6]. The Japanese version of COVID-19 lockdown is a little weaker than those enforced elsewhere, where the stay-at-home request was voluntary. When Prime Minister Shinzo Abe declared that he lifted the state of emergency on May 25, he proudly spoke about the Japan Model, suggesting other countries to learn from Japan.

INTRODUCED RETROSPECTIVE CLUSTER-BASED APPROACH TO LOCATE TRANSMISSION
On February 25, the Ministry of Health, Labor, and Social Affairs, with the Government's aid, announced the Basic Policies for Novel Coronavirus Disease Control and set up a cluster response team along with 536 consultative centers [7]. The country used retrospective monitoring methods to find closer links to an infected person, while other countries employed the prospective approach to identify a major infection source. Japan's retrospective method was claimed to more reliably identify the initial source of infection and thus tracked all close contacts of sources of infection. The basic policy of the authority was to early detect the source of an infected individual through symptoms, follow all the people in the cluster who are highly transmissible, test and isolate them immediately and treat them as symptoms rather than general testing of the country's entire population [8]. The authorities succeeded in the cluster control approach in the earliest phase of the pandemic.

AWARENESS PROGRAM WITH THREE Cs
At the beginning of the pandemic, the central Government of Japan asked people to avoid large gatherings, encouraged teleworking, and avoided unimportant trips, with the encouragement of avoidance of 3Cs. The places that meet the 3Cs are closed spaces, crowded places, and close-contact settings. Later Japan updated into "3C Plus" that included behavior modifications like avoiding loud talking and singing [9]. The national authority's policy was to raise public awareness and stop the spread of this virus without requiring a full shutdown.

HIGH QUALITY HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
Japan was worried that hospitals were a source of cluster-infection due to overflowing patients in the hospital, putting the health care system to an enormous threat. The country coordinated hotels to prevent the hospital rush and asked the non-critical patients to stay at home or the designated hotels. The government also implemented robots to take care of patients in hotels and hospitals so that people can restrict their interactions with humans. Consequently, during the peak in April-May, only 17.1% of beds dedicated to COVID-19 were occupied by critical patients. [10]. There is no question that high-quality medical care, which is available to all Japanese people through universal health insurance, helps avoid the severity of illness.

INTRODUCED CORONAVIRUS TRACING APP: COCOA
On June 19, the Government of Japan released a coronavirus tracing app for Android and IOS phones named "COCOA". With the collaboration of Japan Microsoft, Apple, and Google, the app was launched to trace the people in contact with a COVID-19 positive patient [11].

LIFESTYLE AND AWARENESS OF JAPANESE PEOPLE
According to experts, Japanese healthy lifestyles and distinct cultures, which vary significantly from the US or Europe, are the strength behind the early restraint. A recent report by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found people with underlying medical conditions such as heart disease, obesity, and diabetes are six times more likely to be hospitalized if they get COVID-19 and 12 times more likely to die. Compared to other developing nations, Japan has a low prevalence of co-morbidity, obesity, and diabetes due to its healthy eating habits and exercise habit [12]. The nutrition intake among Japanese people is well maintained, especially among the aged people who are most vulnerable to this disease.

Japan's mild lockdowns seem to have had a real lockdown effect. While people were not forced to remain at home, they did in general. The citizens of Japan have compiled with authority from the very beginning of the pandemic. As a result, the crowds dropped significantly in most of the prefectures. For instance, when people often visit within and outside the country during "Golden Week" holidays, the governors of the localities asked people to stay home and avoid unnecessary movements. As a result, the people kept away from mass gatherings and trivial trips in compliance with the request.

There is a recent hypothesis that most COVID-19 affected countries are severely vitamin D deficient. For example, Europe is the most infected area of the world, where approximately 40% of people are moderately, and 13% are severely vitamin D deficient [13]. Comparative to that among Japanese people, the prevalence of hypovitaminosis D is less than 5% among active older adults and 10.3% among women over 30 years that is very low that might be a contributing factor for the success of the country. Moreover, several scientists anticipated that the countries without a universal BCG vaccination policy might witness a more devastating situation. Thus, the US, Netherlands, and Italy got many critical infections. A report suggested that the fatality rate of COVID-19 among the countries with the BCG vaccine is 4.1%, where it is 5.1% among the countries without the vaccine [14]. Japan started its universal and compulsory BCG vaccine in 1947, which helped fewer deaths per million people than the US and Italy [15].

Furthermore, the exchange of greetings between Japan and the rest of the world varies. In greeting, the Japanese tend to bow rather than shake, embrace, or kiss. Japanese people were believed to have droplets smaller than others; it was shown that approximately 80% of patients did not transmit this virus to others. Also, an established culture of masks, especially in the winter grip season, maybe an important reason for the low infection. Furthermore, in Japan, which is practiced widely in educational institutions from a very young age, a tradition of handwashing is higher.

What happened in Japan shows that the spread of COVID-19 can be controlled in quarantine, social distancing, and isolation of infected people. The key lesson from Japan is that while the country succeeds in containing for the first time, isolating and sustaining containments is difficult for a long time. It is challenging to identify community transmission and hospital transmission unless a country increases its testing capability. The next lesson is that the "new reality" will take much longer than anyone anticipated. Another lesson is that even though a country succeeds in containment locally, it is impossible to retain a virus-free status in other regions of the country, as long as people move around.

In contrast to other countries, Japan has never talked about eliminating the pathogen. Speaking of the current time, Japan's experts tried to promote a "new way of living" where people will have to deal with the virus. Japan followed the idea of maximizing efforts to suppress transmission and to minimize socio-economic damage. Ideally following three preventive steps can help a country to contain the epidemic:

Early detection of cluster and early response,
Enhancement of intensive care and securing medical service system for the severely ill patients, including medical equipment (Ventilator, ECMO, etc),
Behavior modification of citizens.

Science has shown that Japan has, so far, controlled the dissemination of the disease. Telecom giant Softbank conducted an antibody test on 40000 employees in June that revealed only 0.24% were exposed to the virus. Randomized studies in Tokyo and two other prefectures found that exposure rates were much lower. In Tokyo, only 0.1% came back positive. As opposed to rigorous lockdown measurements and widespread testing like in other countries, it is only with the help of pre-existing cultures and healthy lifestyles that Japan has successfully reduced the transmission of SARS-CoV-2. Implementing an instant breakdown of smaller clusters by retrospectively tracing and motivating a 3C method for all the people appeared to be successful. This study could help many countries address many aspects of the successful management of infections.


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tl;dr?
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3.6% of Japanese have BMI over 30.
32% of Americans have BMI over 30.

Just for starters. Covid-19 threat of hospitalization is differentiated based largely on comorbidities and age related vulnerabilities and to a much lesser extent other genetic factors unless you want to conflate comorbidities with the notion of genetic factors.

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calumnus said:

dmh65 said:

BearForce2 said:

okaydo said:



The vaccinated spread Covid, it appears the podcast hosts didn't know that.
Still believe that the vaccinated spread covid and the unvaccinated don't? Still believe that the shot is safe and effective? Still believe in coercing people to take drugs against their will, that informed consent doesn't matter? Still into vilifying those that don't share your views?


Vaccinated people can get COVID, but because their immune system has already developed antibodies the peak viral load is lower, the chance of death is FAR less, and the chance of transmission is less. That is why even with vaccination, we should not have dropped mask wearing until the COVID pandemic died out.

Just came back from two weeks in Japan which is over 80% vaccinated and everyone still wears a mask in public, indoors and outdoors. They they are mourning the almost 60,000 people that have died from COVID over the last three years.

In the US with active aggressive resistance to mask wearing and vaccination, over 1,100,000 people have died. Almost 20 times more than Japan, despite most Japanese living in the worlds largest city, entirely dependent on mass transportation.

Meanwhile, in the US, deaths dropped dramatically after 50% of the population was vaccinated and the highest rates of death from COVID (or heart attack, "respiratory illness" or related illness) are in the states (or region of the state, ie Southern California) with the lowest rates of vaccination.

Japan is in the midst of its worst covid crisis right now, 450 deaths just today.
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Cal88 said:

calumnus said:

dmh65 said:

BearForce2 said:

okaydo said:



The vaccinated spread Covid, it appears the podcast hosts didn't know that.
Still believe that the vaccinated spread covid and the unvaccinated don't? Still believe that the shot is safe and effective? Still believe in coercing people to take drugs against their will, that informed consent doesn't matter? Still into vilifying those that don't share your views?


Vaccinated people can get COVID, but because their immune system has already developed antibodies the peak viral load is lower, the chance of death is FAR less, and the chance of transmission is less. That is why even with vaccination, we should not have dropped mask wearing until the COVID pandemic died out.

Just came back from two weeks in Japan which is over 80% vaccinated and everyone still wears a mask in public, indoors and outdoors. They they are mourning the almost 60,000 people that have died from COVID over the last three years.

In the US with active aggressive resistance to mask wearing and vaccination, over 1,100,000 people have died. Almost 20 times more than Japan, despite most Japanese living in the worlds largest city, entirely dependent on mass transportation.

Meanwhile, in the US, deaths dropped dramatically after 50% of the population was vaccinated and the highest rates of death from COVID (or heart attack, "respiratory illness" or related illness) are in the states (or region of the state, ie Southern California) with the lowest rates of vaccination.

Japan is in the midst of its worst covid crisis right now, 450 deaths just today.
US had a stretch of more than 2 months in 2020-21 with an average of more than 2,000 deaths per day. And, there was a stretch of six weeks in 2021-22 with an average of more than 2,000 deaths per day.
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All of these talking heads stating that the Packers need to "move on" from Rodgers after a subpar season are idiots. Who else could do as much as he did with that set of rookie receivers? I was quite impressed with his change into a mentoring QB and with the rookies' development into decent NFL receivers. The receivers still have a lot to learn (e.g., fighting off holds from DBs, drawing interference calls), but I expect a different season from the Packers next year, assuming their defense plays better. I could see Aaron playing well for another 5 years, barring injuries.
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Mahomes will play in his 5th championship game, which is exactly the number Rodgers has played in.


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Sounds like he is willing to rework his contract if he plays next year since the cap hit for any team would be tough.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35518669/aaron-rodgers-open-reworking-deal-plays-2023

Other reports suggest the Pack is willing to trade him to an AFC team only.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-expected-to-consider-trading-aaron-rodgers-to-afc-team-in-2023-offseason-per-report/
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/37795-aaron-rodgers-will-flop-just-like-every-other-tedford-product
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https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/01/25/aaron-rodgers-woke-culture-big-pharma-pat-mcafee
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FFS, Aaron, get over yourself.



Cal88
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BearSD said:

FFS, Aaron, get over yourself.

You don't think his stance against the mRNA vaccines has any impact on his professional prospects?
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Of course Aaron's voiced opinions have no impact on his football career. In the same way as Colin Kaepernick's opinions had no impact on his career.
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I think that as long as AR plays at a high level, he'll have no problem finding a place to play and get paid very well. I mean, look at the contract Deshaun Watson signed with Cleveland last year.... I can't imagine he's more popular than AR in the court of public opinion.

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philbert said:

I think that as long as AR plays at a high level, he'll have no problem finding a place to play and get paid very well. I mean, look at the contract Deshaun Watson signed with Cleveland last year.... I can't imagine he's more popular than AR in the court of public opinion.



Man, I'm trying to imagine Rodgers in New York. Green Bay is pretty tame. But oh, boy.
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okaydo said:

philbert said:

I think that as long as AR plays at a high level, he'll have no problem finding a place to play and get paid very well. I mean, look at the contract Deshaun Watson signed with Cleveland last year.... I can't imagine he's more popular than AR in the court of public opinion.



Man, I'm trying to imagine Rodgers in New York. Green Bay is pretty tame. But oh, boy.
NY is definitely a different environment. I don't follow him too much, but I haven't heard too much about Kyrie recently. His takes are on par with AR's. Have things died down around him?
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Aaron Ayahyasca is his indigenous person name.
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okaydo said:




Reminds me of the following movie, which was actually very scary. Low budget, Indy, but I recommend.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4805316/

A Dark Song
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okaydo said:

philbert said:

I think that as long as AR plays at a high level, he'll have no problem finding a place to play and get paid very well. I mean, look at the contract Deshaun Watson signed with Cleveland last year.... I can't imagine he's more popular than AR in the court of public opinion.

Man, I'm trying to imagine Rodgers in New York. Green Bay is pretty tame. But oh, boy.
A star player as thin-skinned as Aaron seems like a poor fit for the rabid NY media market.
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okaydo said:




Jersey sales aren't the greatest popularity index - it's not like fans who already have a players jersey just go out and buy a new one every year.

And if Rodgers is traded, there will be a lot of sales again with the new team.
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How much is Rodgers' success in recent years because of Mahomes?

Reading the recent Wright Thompson profile of Joe Montana, who really doesn't like that Tom Brady eclipsed him, I think of Rodgers.

Mahomes' breakout year was in 2018 when Rodgers didn't make the playoffs for the second straight year and the Packers fired Mike McCarthy.

In the 2019 season, Mahomes won the Super Bowl. In 2 seasons, he was the MVP, Super Bowl MVP and Super Bowl winner.

In 2020 and 2021, Rodgers won the MVP.

Is that a coincidence?

I really feel that Mahomes' success and becoming the new "best QB" fueled Rodgers.

I wonder if it'll fuel him again.

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