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How do they not qualify? How do you know 'Most'?

Here let me summarize for you:

Immigration and Nationality Act (INA):

• Section 208(a)(1) of the INA: This section of the INA codifies the right of individuals to apply for asylum, stating: "Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien's status, may apply for asylum."

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10816. Literally the first paragraph.

International Law:

• The United States is a signatory to the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees, which incorporates the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. These international agreements establish the right to seek asylum from persecution in other countries.

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There are more than 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the US. Around 25,000 are granted asylum per year. This is an extremely broken system. I can logically conclude that we don't have 6+ million legitimate asylum seekers here. Why have only 2 million asylum cases been filed in the past 20 years? Don't they have to fear government persecution or something?

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Oh and btw. Doesn't look like a lack of action right?

The Biden-Harris Administration's executive actions will:

Bar Migrants Who Cross the Southern Border Unlawfully From Receiving Asylum

• President Biden issued a proclamation under Immigration and Nationality Act sections 212(f) and 215(a) suspending entry of noncitizens who cross the Southern border into the United States unlawfully. This proclamation is accompanied by an interim final rule from the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security that restricts asylum for those noncitizens.
• These actions will be in effect when the Southern border is overwhelmed, and they will make it easier for immigration officers to quickly remove individuals who do not have a legal basis to remain in the United States.
• These actions are not permanent. They will be discontinued when the number of migrants who cross the border between ports of entry is low enough for America's system to safely and effectively manage border operations. These actions also include similar humanitarian exceptions to those included in the bipartisan border agreement announced in the Senate, including those for unaccompanied children and victims of trafficking.

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The Biden admin did this, after repealing stricter laws at the start of his term, 3.5 years into his term because he was coming up for reelection. They can't fool everyone.

The number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States is estimated to be around 11 million as of 2022 This population has remained relatively stable over the past decade, following a peak of 12.2 million in 2007.

On average, around 25,000 asylum seekers are granted asylum each year. This discrepancy is partly due to the complex and lengthy process of seeking asylum, which involves rigorous screening and legal procedures. Shouldn't money be put into fixing this system and not the stupid border wall?

Biden did do the below.

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Calls on Congress to Immediately Pass the Bipartisan National Security Agreement | The White House

Well at least you used unauthorized immigrants - not illegal. Thats a first step.

Again. Where do you get the term border czar?

Vice President Kamala Harris was designated by President Joe Biden to lead efforts to address the root causes of migration from Central America to the United States. This role involved addressing issues such as economic instability, violence, and corruption in countries like Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador

Where does it say she's in charge of the border?

No wonder MiZery has been denying that Kamala was the Border Czar; I just saw the regime media headlines for today. Carry on.

All i am asking is where biden claimes she the Border Czar or is in CHARGE of the border.

Before Kamala was Border Czar, she was a George Soros District Attorney.

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The number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States is estimated to be around 11 million as of 2022 This population has remained relatively stable over the past decade, following a peak of 12.2 million in 2007.

On average, around 25,000 asylum seekers are granted asylum each year. This discrepancy is partly due to the complex and lengthy process of seeking asylum, which involves rigorous screening and legal procedures. Shouldn't money be put into fixing this system and not the stupid border wall?

Biden did do the below.

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Calls on Congress to Immediately Pass the Bipartisan National Security Agreement | The White House

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Shouldn't money be put into fixing this system and not the stupid border wall?

It should be one way or the other. We can't let them in and then have no effective process to figure out who should really be here.

It’s not just Axios. Now GovTrack went back and erased Kamala’s ranking as the most liberal United States Senator.

The cover up is on! https://t.co/fV5scYUrVm pic.twitter.com/T9f0DUdB7K

— Mike Berg (@MikeKBerg) July 24, 2024

The Kamala Harris media scrubbing is happening right now...

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All asylum seekers are vetted here. In fact they commit less crimes than American Born citizens.

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Indeed. My youngest sister investigates asylum claims for the Department of Homeland Security. I think she does it mainly for European and Asian asylum seekers, but I can verify that asylum claims are not just rubber stamped. She's a Boalt graduate, by the way.

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All asylum seekers are vetted here. In fact they commit less crimes than American Born citizens.

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Indeed. My youngest sister investigates asylum claims for the Department of Homeland Security. I think she does it mainly for European and Asian asylum seekers, but I can verify that asylum claims are not just rubber stamped. She's a Boalt graduate, by the way.

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Is she in the initial interview group that decides 70% of all asylum claims might show a fear of persecution or she in the group that approves the 25,000 or so a year, most of which takes 6+ years to adjudicate?

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I knew you'd answer this with a question.

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Since you won't clarify, I will assume she is in the group that approves the 25,000 or so a year with 11 million waiting. Of course they don't rubber stamp it. If they did, it wouldn't take 6-7 years to process a claim. Hopefully, she operates with a sense of urgency and just struggles with an extreme lack of resources.

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I didn't answer because in our conversations, she never couched it your terms, so I'm not sure how to answer you. I figured you'd just assume what you wanted to believe and pepper me with more side questions. I'm not willing to go down your inquisitory rabbit hole as I'm at work and they expect me to do stuff and get things done.

As far as lack of resources, she did survive a couple of rounds of layoffs during the Trump administration that cut their staff by about 40%. I'm not sure if staffing was increased under Biden or if it's held steady.

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All asylum seekers are vetted here. In fact they commit less crimes than American Born citizens.

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Indeed. My youngest sister investigates asylum claims for the Department of Homeland Security. I think she does it mainly for European and Asian asylum seekers, but I can verify that asylum claims are not just rubber stamped. She's a Boalt graduate, by the way.

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Is she in the initial interview group that decides 70% of all asylum claims might show a fear of persecution or she in the group that approves the 25,000 or so a year, most of which takes 6+ years to adjudicate?

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I knew you'd answer this with a question.

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Since you won't clarify, I will assume she is in the group that approves the 25,000 or so a year with 11 million waiting. Of course they don't rubber stamp it. If they did, it wouldn't take 6-7 years to process a claim. Hopefully, she operates with a sense of urgency and just struggles with an extreme lack of resources.

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I didn't answer because in our conversations, she never couched it your terms, so I'm not sure how to answer you. I figured you'd just assume what you wanted to believe and pepper me with more side questions. I'm not willing to go down your inquisitory rabbit hole as I'm at work and they expect me to do stuff and get things done.

As far as lack of resources, she did survive a couple of rounds of layoffs during the Trump administration that cut their staff by about 40%. I'm not sure if staffing was increased under Biden or if it's held steady.

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Yeah, Trump seemed focused on preventing "unauthorized" immigrants from getting in, as opposed to processing asylum. I don't think that is a feasible tactic, given how loose our asylum rules are.

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So again


When did Biden claim she was a border czar? When did he say she was responsible for the border? Is Axios your source? Seriously?

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I'm seeing a classic case of everyone talking past each other. And I say this as someone who really, really doesn't want to see Trump in the White House again.

I looked up what was being reported when she was assigned her responsibilities. Here's what NBC said in March, 2021.

"WASHINGTON President Joe Biden announced Wednesday that he has appointed Vice President Kamala Harris to lead efforts to stem migration across the U.S.-Mexico border, as the administration faces growing political pressure to address a surge in undocumented migrant children unaccompanied by parents.
Biden said during an immigration meeting at the White House that he had asked Harris to lead the administration's efforts with Mexico and the Northern Triangle El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, countries that will "need help stemming the movement of so many folks, stemming the migration to our southern border."

A senior administration official said Harris' role would focus on "two tracks": both curbing the current flow of migrants and implementing a long-term strategy that addresses the root causes of migration."

I'm going to assume that no one can find a source 'officially' naming her the 'Border Czar", but it does seem that she was to be involved in stemming the current flow as well as long-term strategy (eliminating root causes).

Also seems to me that 'Border Czar' was convenient (if somewhat dramatic) language for her responsibilities. I think what's got the right upset is that as far as I can tell, no one, not the administration, nor any media (certainly not the right leaning outlets) objected to that title or aggressively argued that it was MAGA inspired until she became the presumptive candidate. I remember her being mocked when an interviewer asked her why she hadn't visited the border and she responded by saying she hadn't been to Europe either and what was his point?

I think it's the apparent sudden about face on this issue that has people upset, and I can see their point. I think you can reasonably make the argument that she was pretty universally characterized as a poorly performing 'border czar' until a few days ago and now we're hearing that she had only limited responsibilities for root causes and the whole 'border czar' thing is an invalid right wing talking point.

Having said all that, I think the Republicans are out over their skis on this. I'm pretty confident Trump and Vance will talk their way out of any chance of winning.

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Stemming the of migrants. Ie. policy changes to central and South America? What are they going to do, tell people to not come?

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Make it less desirable for them to do so.

Donald Trump campaign wants FEC to block Vice President Kamala Harris from accessing President Joe Biden's campaign money - ABC7 Los Angeles


https://abc7.com/post/donald-trump-campaign-wants-fec-block-vice-president/15090874/

tRump Campaign:

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There are legitimate concerns about Kamala Harris, but opponents are off the mark with "DEI choice" and "this was a coup". Those angles are a good way to lose, if you're the GOP.

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Kamala Harris:

1. DEI hire
2. Coup candidate
3. Border czar
4. Most liberal of all 100 senators per GovTrack in 2019
5. Soros DA
6. No endorsement from Obama.

51 former intelligence officials have confirmed that Kamala was never the border Czar.

— Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) July 24, 2024

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There are legitimate concerns about Kamala Harris, but opponents are off the mark with "DEI choice" and "this was a coup". Those angles are a good way to lose, if you're the GOP.

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Kamala Harris:

1. DEI hire
2. Coup candidate
3. Border czar
4. Soros DA

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tRump:
1. Adjudicated "Sexual Abuser;"
2. Convicted of 34 felonies;
3. Adjudicated civil fraud ordered to pay $355,000,000;
4. Facing an additional 54 felony charges against him in three remaining criminal cases;
5. Stole classified documents and refused to return them;
6. Incited January 6 Insurrection;
7. Had sex with a pornographic actress when his wife was pregnant;
8. Since the 1970s, at least 26 women have publicly accused Trump of rape, kissing, and groping without consent; looking under women's skirts; and walking in on naked teenage pageant contestants;
8. Filed 11 business bankruptcies;
9. Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the p@ussy. You can do anything."

I think Trump will dub her, Fake Kamala.

Fake Kamala. She's a FAKE. Fake record, fake nominee, fake selection, never got a single vote. Everything about her is fake fake fake!

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) July 24, 2024