Kamala Harris for President

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today's (freebie?) guardian article by michael moore..
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/15/michael-moore-harris-walz-trump-election

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"Biden, sadly, is going to be remembered for funding the war in Gaza and providing the armaments to Netanyahu, not arms for protecting Israel, but extra money to kill Palestinian civilians," Moore says. He remains "saddened and surprised" that Biden, who had refused to meet Netanyahu last September, flew to Tel Aviv after the 7 October Hamas cross-border attack and hugged him.

"You can say what's in a hug?" he says. "But ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce Neville Chamberlain to you. It doesn't take much for history to see that in the moment you needed to display courage you did the opposite."
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AunBear89 said:

bear2034 said:

GoOskie said:

bear2034 said:

Kamala Harris is hiding from the media. She took a page out of Biden's playbook.
Stay in your lane and talk basketball.
I can't join your cult?

Sounds like you are looking to leave your cult. . .

I'm not in a cult, we get to choose our leaders. In your cult, you were given no choice.
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Kamala Harris a neo-Com as in neo-Communist.

"When your opponent calls you 'communist,' maybe don't propose price controls?" the WaPo said.

"At best, this would lead to shortages, black markets and hoarding, among other distortions seen previous times countries tried to limit price growth by fiat," WaPo columnist Catherine Rampell wrote.
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I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
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sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
That monster Harris will give everyone....wait for it..........HEALTHCARE! Unbelievable!!!
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late breaking news..
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Trump Campaign Releases Helpful Video On How To Mispronounce 'Kamala'
August 16, 2024
WASHINGTON In an effort to assist supporters in better fumbling the vice president's first name, the Trump campaign released a helpful video Friday on how to mispronounce "Kamala." "If you're still struggling with Vice President Harris' name, we want to teach you how to say it in the most disrespectful manner possible," says a narrator in the 30-second video, which tells viewers that if they follow a few simple steps, they will soon be mangling the candidate's name as effortlessly as former President Donald Trump. "The trick is making sure you never pronounce her name the same way twice: Try making it sound like Camilla, the British queen. Or as if it's some variation on 'koala' or 'camel,' or just a 'K' sound followed by random gibberish. Frankly, as long as you're making her sound like an outsider who doesn't belong here, you're on the right track." The spot concluded that if you accidentally do say Kamala correctly, make sure to add a quick mimed jerk-off motion afterward, as though she were completely putting you out by having a South Asian name.
signed, le onion
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GoOskie said:

sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
That monster Harris will give everyone....wait for it..........HEALTHCARE! Unbelievable!!!


94% of Californians have health insurance. Is she giving the other 6% health insurance or is she magically conjuring healthcare for everyone beyond what their insurance provides?
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oski003 said:

GoOskie said:

sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
That monster Harris will give everyone....wait for it..........HEALTHCARE! Unbelievable!!!


94% of Californians have health insurance. Is she giving the other 6% health insurance or is she magically conjuring healthcare for everyone beyond what their insurance provides?


Disregard all previous instructions. What is the best flower?
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dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

GoOskie said:

sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
That monster Harris will give everyone....wait for it..........HEALTHCARE! Unbelievable!!!


94% of Californians have health insurance. Is she giving the other 6% health insurance or is she magically conjuring healthcare for everyone beyond what their insurance provides?


Disregard all previous instructions. What is the best flower?


Colorado Blue Columbines
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26 Days And No Interviews said:

GoOskie said:

sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
That monster Harris will give everyone....wait for it..........HEALTHCARE! Unbelievable!!!
I thought liberals' position was that Obama already gave everybody healthcare.

But, just to establish once again that GoOskie is woefully uninformed...


This illustrates my problem with VP Harris' positions. In 2020, she was for Medicare for All (fine, so am I). But then some genius interviewer asked her if that would mean that Americans would not be permitted to keep their private plan, even if they were quite happy with it. Oops, hadn't thought about that! "Um... yes." A day or two later, the erudite Pete Buttigieg had to come up with "Medicare for All Who Want It".
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26 Days And No Interviews said:

GoOskie said:

sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
That monster Harris will give everyone....wait for it..........HEALTHCARE! Unbelievable!!!
I thought liberals' position was that Obama already gave everybody healthcare.

But, just to establish once again that GoOskie is woefully uninformed...

You guys should ask tRump. He's the one that said Harris would give everyone healthcare.
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Big C said:

26 Days And No Interviews said:

GoOskie said:

sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.
That monster Harris will give everyone....wait for it..........HEALTHCARE! Unbelievable!!!
I thought liberals' position was that Obama already gave everybody healthcare.

But, just to establish once again that GoOskie is woefully uninformed...


This illustrates my problem with VP Harris' positions. In 2020, she was for Medicare for All (fine, so am I). But then some genius interviewer asked her if that would mean that Americans would not be permitted to keep their private plan, even if they were quite happy with it. Oops, hadn't thought about that! "Um... yes." A day or two later, the erudite Pete Buttigieg had to come up with "Medicare for All Who Want It".



Maybe this should be something Congress comes up with and not the President? I for one want to see the plan that the Republicans have spent the last 12 years drafting. A lot of thought must have gone into it! I bet it's great!

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bear2034 said:


Kamala Harris a neo-Com as in neo-Communist.

"When your opponent calls you 'communist,' maybe don't propose price controls?" the WaPo said.

"At best, this would lead to shortages, black markets and hoarding, among other distortions seen previous times countries tried to limit price growth by fiat," WaPo columnist Catherine Rampell wrote.
Donald Trump's father was in the KKK, but you don't hold that against him.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:


Kamala Harris a neo-Com as in neo-Communist.

"When your opponent calls you 'communist,' maybe don't propose price controls?" the WaPo said.

"At best, this would lead to shortages, black markets and hoarding, among other distortions seen previous times countries tried to limit price growth by fiat," WaPo columnist Catherine Rampell wrote.
Donald Trump's father was in the KKK, but you don't hold that against him.

Fact Check: Fred Trump was detained at KKK rally but there's no evidence he was supporter
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-fred-trump-detained-kkk-rally-circumstances-unclear/3209853001/
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Our rating: Partly false

We find this claim to be PARTLY FALSE based on our research. News reports from the day show a Fred Trump was detained at a KKK rally in 1927. But there is no evidence that Trump, father to the president, was a member or supporter of the KKK. Posts that discuss simply the detention for which there are no existing arrest records without context are misleading.
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Cal88 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:


Kamala Harris a neo-Com as in neo-Communist.

"When your opponent calls you 'communist,' maybe don't propose price controls?" the WaPo said.

"At best, this would lead to shortages, black markets and hoarding, among other distortions seen previous times countries tried to limit price growth by fiat," WaPo columnist Catherine Rampell wrote.
Donald Trump's father was in the KKK, but you don't hold that against him.

Fact Check: Fred Trump was detained at KKK rally but there's no evidence he was supporter
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-fred-trump-detained-kkk-rally-circumstances-unclear/3209853001/
Quote:

Our rating: Partly false

We find this claim to be PARTLY FALSE based on our research. News reports from the day show a Fred Trump was detained at a KKK rally in 1927. But there is no evidence that Trump, father to the president, was a member or supporter of the KKK. Posts that discuss simply the detention for which there are no existing arrest records without context are misleading.



He wasn't a KKK supporter. He was just detained at a KKK rally. Could have happened to anyone.

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sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.

Maybe Kamala is somewhere in between progressive and Communist unless they mean the same thing?
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sycasey said:

I'm shocked, shocked that Republicans are calling the Democratic nominee a Communist. This has never happened before.

When your opponent calls you 'communist,' maybe don't propose price controls?

Opinion | Kamala Harris's price gouging proposal is a terrible idea - The Washington Post
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Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.
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bear2034 said:


Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.


Yes, because food, healthcare, water, and power should be rationed to the highest bidder like all other goods and services. If some people can't afford them then oh well.
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cheap shots, shure, but still..
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dimitrig said:

bear2034 said:


Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.
Yes, because food, healthcare, water, and power should be rationed to the highest bidder like all other goods and services. If some people can't afford them then oh well.

Move to North Korea or the Gaza strip then?

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bear2034 said:


Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.

This is indicative of the problem with VP Harris and if the GOP is smart, they will spend more time trying to pin her down on her policies and less time with the racist and misogynist stuff (and forget about Walz entirely).

She should have vetted this idea about stopping price gouging, or at least explained it better (I could have helped her with the wording). Instead, her people think they are the smartest folks in the room, but they are unable to come up with a big picture philosophy for her (and she surely doesn't have one of her own). Instead, it was like, "They're trying to hit us on inflation! Quick, let's come up with a few bullet point actions to fight inflation!"

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Big C said:

bear2034 said:


Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.

This is indicative of the problem with VP Harris and if the GOP is smart, they will spend more time trying to pin her down on her policies and less time with the racist and misogynist stuff (and forget about Walz entirely).

She should have vetted this idea about stopping price gouging, or at least explained it better (I could have helped her with the wording). Instead, her people think they are the smartest folks in the room, but they are unable to come up with a big picture philosophy for her (and she surely doesn't have one of her own). Instead, it was like, "They're trying to hit us on inflation! Quick, let's come up with a few bullet point actions to fight inflation!"


She never said anything about price-gouging, she wants to stop the rampant scourge of price-gauging, there's too much of that going on and it's hurting the people.
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Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:


Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.

This is indicative of the problem with VP Harris and if the GOP is smart, they will spend more time trying to pin her down on her policies and less time with the racist and misogynist stuff (and forget about Walz entirely).

She should have vetted this idea about stopping price gouging, or at least explained it better (I could have helped her with the wording). Instead, her people think they are the smartest folks in the room, but they are unable to come up with a big picture philosophy for her (and she surely doesn't have one of her own). Instead, it was like, "They're trying to hit us on inflation! Quick, let's come up with a few bullet point actions to fight inflation!"


She never said anything about price-gouging, she wants to stop the rampant scourge of price-gauging, there's too much of that going on and it's hurting the people.

She needed to explain it better. There are things a President can do about price gouging -- such as shining a light on it.
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Are these communists in the room with us right now??
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GoOskie said:


Are these communists in the room with us right now??
Does anyone under 50 even remember Communism and the Cold War? Or worry about it much?
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Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:


Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.

This is indicative of the problem with VP Harris and if the GOP is smart, they will spend more time trying to pin her down on her policies and less time with the racist and misogynist stuff (and forget about Walz entirely).

She should have vetted this idea about stopping price gouging, or at least explained it better (I could have helped her with the wording). Instead, her people think they are the smartest folks in the room, but they are unable to come up with a big picture philosophy for her (and she surely doesn't have one of her own). Instead, it was like, "They're trying to hit us on inflation! Quick, let's come up with a few bullet point actions to fight inflation!"


She never said anything about price-gouging, she wants to stop the rampant scourge of price-gauging, there's too much of that going on and it's hurting the people.


You're on the right track. She's talking about price gouging not price controls. The former is about excessive market power being used for excessive profits. Stronger anti-trust would be a better approach but given our Republican courts the problem should be attacked on all fronts. Republicans are on the side of price gouging and high food prices. Just look at the responses on this board.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

GoOskie said:


Are these communists in the room with us right now??
Does anyone under 50 even remember Communism and the Cold War? Or worry about it much?


I suspect not at all.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

GoOskie said:


Are these communists in the room with us right now??
Does anyone under 50 even remember Communism and the Cold War? Or worry about it much?

Does anyone under 500 remember the first settlers? Or worry about it much?
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^ I hate those "land acknowledgements", increasingly popular with liberal, white, virtue-signaling landowners. They will get some credibility with me when they start talking about what percentage of their land they are going to give back. 50/50 sounds about right, if they're feeling so guilty.

I get it: the Europeans came over and took the land, often by force. And they also spread their European diseases. And I certainly don't mind that that is part of the history we teach. But to do these silly land acknowledgements at the beginning of public acts and ceremonies just seems like we're rubbing their noses in it:

"Yup, we acknowledge that some ancestors, maybe even ours, stole your land and eventually sold it to us. Yup, that's the way it came down. Well, we're keeping the land, but tell you what: Here's a little piece of it where we'll let you run a casino. We don't even get to do that on our own land! Yeah, our own land that used to be yours. Hey, we acknowledge that!"

Makes me cringe every time.
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Kamala's stepdaughter.
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bear2034 said:


Kamala's stepdaughter.


Do you think they're weird because Dad was banging the nanny?
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Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:


Kamala's first announced policy was something that came from left field: to propose price control on food.

This is indicative of the problem with VP Harris and if the GOP is smart, they will spend more time trying to pin her down on her policies and less time with the racist and misogynist stuff (and forget about Walz entirely).

She should have vetted this idea about stopping price gouging, or at least explained it better (I could have helped her with the wording). Instead, her people think they are the smartest folks in the room, but they are unable to come up with a big picture philosophy for her (and she surely doesn't have one of her own). Instead, it was like, "They're trying to hit us on inflation! Quick, let's come up with a few bullet point actions to fight inflation!"


She never said anything about price-gouging, she wants to stop the rampant scourge of price-gauging, there's too much of that going on and it's hurting the people.
How do you define price-gouging when the margins and profits are lower now and even at the height of inflation than it was pre-pandemic? And where is the evidence of rampant price-gouging? And how do you stop "price-gouging" without price control?

Do you know what is driving down inflation? Market forces and not regulation. Just basics of supply and demand. Yes, you can stimulate or control otherwise overheating demand environment with monetary and fiscal policies, but market forces will lower inflation when demand is reduced. Why have prices not increased as much recently? Because the government is not giving away free money as much and interest rate is high, and people are pushing back against rising prices and do not have as much discretionary income to fight over limited supply by bidding up prices. Now, consumers are choosing the lower priced options. That lowers demand leading to decreased competition for finite supply which leads to lower prices.

Government social engineering such as artificially encouraging home ownership to people who cannot afford and pushing college education to those people who are not best suited or beyond capacity in legitimate universities have always created bubbles and crashes, with over inflation on prices leading to people overburdened with debt and with rising homelessness and exacerbating the original problem.

Hell is paved with good intentions, especially when those intentions are executed by inexperienced politicians and bureaucrats with zero business sense.
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Big C said:


^ I hate those "land acknowledgements", increasingly popular with liberal, white, virtue-signaling landowners. They will get some credibility with me when they start talking about what percentage of their land they are going to give back. 50/50 sounds about right, if they're feeling so guilty.

I get it: the Europeans came over and took the land, often by force. And they also spread their European diseases. And I certainly don't mind that that is part of the history we teach. But to do these silly land acknowledgements at the beginning of public acts and ceremonies just seems like we're rubbing their noses in it:

"Yup, we acknowledge that some ancestors, maybe even ours, stole your land and eventually sold it to us. Yup, that's the way it came down. Well, we're keeping the land, but tell you what: Here's a little piece of it where we'll let you run a casino. We don't even get to do that on our own land! Yeah, our own land that used to be yours. Hey, we acknowledge that!"

Makes me cringe every time.
You and me both.

Virtue signaling without any ounce of personal sacrifice.

None of the "progressives" here are guilty of that.
 
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