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Discussion on Musk's DoGE ideas, the federal deficit, and GDP
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So you want to wait until inflation spikes as a result of Trump's tariffs before you decide what now? Abolish the IRS?
How do some of you conservatives even temper to breathe?
How do some of you conservatives even temper to breathe?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
….and fresh in from the It All Depends Upon Whose Ox is Getting Gored Department:
Jesse Watters Makes Plea For Veteran Friend Facing DOGE Cuts
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jesse-watters-makes-on-air-plea-to-trump-for-veteran-friend-who-got-doged-in-pentagon-cuts/
Jesse Watters Makes Plea For Veteran Friend Facing DOGE Cuts
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jesse-watters-makes-on-air-plea-to-trump-for-veteran-friend-who-got-doged-in-pentagon-cuts/
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Steve Bannon Warns Republicans 'Oligarchs' Will Abandon Them
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/steve-bannon-warns-republicans-the-oligarchs-will-abandon-them-theyre-with-us-but-only-temporarily/
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The ugly truth is ...DOGE can cut everything in government because the Dems have done such a bad job of explaining what government is for.
Smh
Smh
"All types of knowledge, ultimately mean self-knowledge."
Obama added a Trillion in new spending after the real estate implosion and passed continuing resolutions (not real budgets). The one Trillion stayed.
Then Congress added another Trillion during Covid. Both still there.
Go back to 2008 spending, plus inflation.
Then Congress added another Trillion during Covid. Both still there.
Go back to 2008 spending, plus inflation.
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We're going to check to see if the gold is all there.
movielover said:
Obama added a Trillion in new spending after the real estate implosion and passed continuing resolutions (not real budgets). The one Trillion stayed.
Then Congress added another Trillion during Covid. Both still there.
Go back to 2008 spending, plus inflation.
So, based on that everything was peachy keen pre Obama? Ohhhh I got it Obama caused all of all the problems ? Because your kind did nothing wrong.
Did Obama make Amerikkka more racist or was Amerikkka already racist or did his back to back election fan the flames the house that is burning like a cross on a lawn in someone's front yard …
"All types of knowledge, ultimately mean self-knowledge."
Conservatives are such dicks. "I like that you're screwing over countless vulnerable people, but please spare my friend."bearister said:
….and fresh in from the It All Depends Upon Whose Ox is Getting Gored Department:
Jesse Watters Makes Plea For Veteran Friend Facing DOGE Cuts
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jesse-watters-makes-on-air-plea-to-trump-for-veteran-friend-who-got-doged-in-pentagon-cuts/
From what could be the DUMBEST Illinois State Senator in history.
I give you Terri Bryant
194 Million people between the ages of 20 - 60 receiving Social Security Checks.
If you're in this age bracket, have you received a check lately?
LMFAO!
movielover said:
Obama added a Trillion in new spending after the real estate implosion and passed continuing resolutions (not real budgets). The one Trillion stayed.
Then Congress added another Trillion during Covid. Both still there.
Go back to 2008 spending, plus inflation.
"At closed-door meeting with House Leadership today President Trump reportedly outlined his tax priorities. According to press reports, they included extending the expiring pieces of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA); expanding the State and Local Tax (SALT) deduction; enacting tax breaks for goods made in America; cutting taxes on income from tips, overtime pay, and Social Security benefits; and eliminating tax breaks for carried interest and stadium owners.
Depending on the details of these proposals, our rough estimate is that a package of this nature would:
Reduce revenue by $5.0 trillion to $11.2 trillion over ten years.
Lower revenue by 1.3 to 3.0 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
Boost debt to between 132 and 149 percent of GDP by 2035, if not offset, compared to nearly 100 percent today and 118 percent under current law.
Such a package could also lead to significant income shifting and tax avoidance, weaken the Medicare and possibly Social Security trust funds, dramatically boost interest costs, and increase the risk of a debt spiral"
https://www.crfb.org/blogs/trump-tax-priorities-total-5-11-trillion
Now do you understand why the Trump/Musk Duumvirate laugh themselves to sleep at night thinking how f@ucking stupid the electorate was to hand them the Keys to the Kingdom?
Now do you know that Matt Taibbi knew what he was talking about when he worked at the Rolling Stone and he observed:
"In the elaborate con that is American electoral politics, the Republican voter has long been the easiest mark in the game, the biggest dope in the room.
….. All you have to do to secure a Republican vote is show lots of pictures of gay people kissing or black kids with their pants pulled down or Mexican babies at an emergency room."
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I'm glad I'm not on travel for the government right now. This is going to suck for those who are, as they'll have to pay for hotels, meals and possibly plane tickets on their personal credit cards with no guarantee of being reimbursed given a move like this. Good thing plane tickets are only $2.
So, so petty. Another clear sign that the goal is to make government employees miserable for no apparent savings or benefit.
DOGE Puts A $1 Spending Limit On Government Employee Credit Cards
Update:
Here's a non paywalled link
So, so petty. Another clear sign that the goal is to make government employees miserable for no apparent savings or benefit.
DOGE Puts A $1 Spending Limit On Government Employee Credit Cards
Update:
Here's a non paywalled link
going4roses said:movielover said:
Obama added a Trillion in new spending after the real estate implosion and passed continuing resolutions (not real budgets). The one Trillion stayed.
Then Congress added another Trillion during Covid. Both still there.
Go back to 2008 spending, plus inflation.
So, based on that everything was peachy keen pre Obama? Ohhhh I got it Obama caused all of all the problems ? Because your kind did nothing wrong.
Did Obama make Amerikkka more racist or was Amerikkka already racist or did his back to back election fan the flames the house that is burning like a cross on a lawn in someone's front yard …
Take the budget Obama first inherited and tweak it from there; border patrol, elderly, and fentanyl emergencg services might need more funding; no funding for DEI or flying in illegal immigrants, etc.
Obama and CONgress added a Trillion, and never took it out. CONgress hasn't passed a budget in 16 years.
Why do you take a point about budgeting --> to race?
Obama was elected running as a colorblind candidate with apparently no racial grievances. Then he got elected and made stupid comments about Trayvon Martin and Dr. Henry Lewis Gates. As President, anything you say is magnified 10-fold. The country's feelings about race relations subsequently took a substantial hit. He didn't lead, show maturity or wisdom. The grievances came out from a couple who are now worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He had a charmed life, she was given a Vice President title and salary bc Barack was in CONgress. So together they probably pushed 400K per year, loads of bennies, perks, privileges, a set up for the White House, international travel, Hollywood celebrities, even got their girlfriend living with them fir 16 years, and they're angry. Go figure.
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The DOD employs approximately 2.9 Million including military, National Guard, and civilians. Cut #1. 700K civilian employees, so less than a 10% cut there.
🚨BREAKING: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has labeled around 55,000 Department of Defense employees to fire. pic.twitter.com/ooKmDElvnF
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Your math skills stink. 700K out of 2.9 million is just under 25%.movielover said:
The DOD employs approximately 2.9 Million including military, National Guard, and civilians. Cut #1. 700K civilian employees, so less than a 10% cut there.🚨BREAKING: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has labeled around 55,000 Department of Defense employees to fire. pic.twitter.com/ooKmDElvnF
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) February 20, 2025
The comment and Tweet are a little confusing but I read them to say cutting 55K / 700K is less than 10%, which is a correct statement.Eastern Oregon Bear said:Your math skills stink. 700K out of 2.9 million is just under 25%.movielover said:
The DOD employs approximately 2.9 Million including military, National Guard, and civilians. Cut #1. 700K civilian employees, so less than a 10% cut there.🚨BREAKING: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has labeled around 55,000 Department of Defense employees to fire. pic.twitter.com/ooKmDElvnF
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) February 20, 2025
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Employers are counseled to be sensitive and respectful in matters concerning termination of employment for a variety of reasons. One, it just common decency. Two, it's good business. Three, people have very strong emotions related to their careers and the source of the financial support for themselves and their loved ones. Some people can act irrationally when they are treated disrespectfully and insensitively in the employment termination process.
Musk trash talking and giggling with the chainsaw prop has very, very bad optics and is extremely ill advised.
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DOGE is nothing more than a "side-show" for the simpleton's who barely made it through high school.
Any of the Trumper's here willing to bet $1,000 that the Mango Messiah and Elon Fusk will be able to make $2 Trillion in cuts?
How about you Movielover?
Wanna make an "easy" $1,000 dollars?
Any of the Trumper's here willing to bet $1,000 that the Mango Messiah and Elon Fusk will be able to make $2 Trillion in cuts?
How about you Movielover?
Wanna make an "easy" $1,000 dollars?
I believe his goal is $1 Trillion.
Hegseth reportedly ready to release 55,000 employees at DOD.
Hegseth reportedly ready to release 55,000 employees at DOD.
Cant wait for Trump and Vice President FUsk to start cutting staff at the Social Security Administration, where staffing is already operating at a 50 year low.
Come on DOGE!
Start making drastic cuts to Social Security staff so 72 MILLION American's wont get their monthly checks on time.
Let's Goooooooooooooo!!!
Come on DOGE!
Start making drastic cuts to Social Security staff so 72 MILLION American's wont get their monthly checks on time.
Let's Goooooooooooooo!!!
movielover said:
I believe his goal is $1 Trillion.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot that he MOVED THE GOAL POSTS.
From $2 Trillion.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-says-doge-probably-wont-find-2-trillion-federal-budget-cuts-rcna186924
movielover said:
I believe his goal is $1 Trillion.
$1 Trillion.
The National Debt is $36 Trillion.
That's a cut of a whole 2.77%
You've been duped again.
Shocker.
With all these job cuts both public and private… planned and ongoing what are the immediate consequences of said actions? So that's taking lots of $$$ out of consumers pockets no ? What % of those people that won't find comparable work ($$$ /location) within 2-3 months and then what ???
"All types of knowledge, ultimately mean self-knowledge."
Talk about shifting goalposts.
If the DOD releases 55,000, cutting 355,000 Federal employees in one month has to be a historic record.
If the DOD releases 55,000, cutting 355,000 Federal employees in one month has to be a historic record.
You're easily duped.
We know you (and your brethren here) hate Trump and are incapable of complimenting anything good he or his team accomplish, even if it helps our nation. You're an idealogue.
We're hurtling towards bankruptcy, CONgress has done nothing but pad their own wallets, and now there are clear signs of significant progress from the White House.
300 - 360,000 FTE reductions in one month is F massive.
Will CONgress join the progress in deficit reduction?
P.S. Maybe folks like you are also worried DOGE will refund 20% of DOGE savings to citizens? Let's say DOGE cuts $400 Billion, and there are 150 million taxpayers, each person would get a check for $533? Might help the GOP in the midterms.
We're hurtling towards bankruptcy, CONgress has done nothing but pad their own wallets, and now there are clear signs of significant progress from the White House.
300 - 360,000 FTE reductions in one month is F massive.
Will CONgress join the progress in deficit reduction?
P.S. Maybe folks like you are also worried DOGE will refund 20% of DOGE savings to citizens? Let's say DOGE cuts $400 Billion, and there are 150 million taxpayers, each person would get a check for $533? Might help the GOP in the midterms.
Since it's such a piddly reduction does that mean you are only offended by the manner in which the cuts are being made, and not the cuts themselves?DiabloWags said:movielover said:
I believe his goal is $1 Trillion.
$1 Trillion.
The National Debt is $36 Trillion.
That's a cut of a whole 2.77%
You've been duped again.
Shocker.
He was high as hell.bearister said:
You can say a lot of things about Elon Musk, but you can't say he lacks empathy for his fellow man.*
*You would sooner find mercy in the eyes of a Great White.
Elon's own technology says he's full of s*** about half the time.
I asked @grok to analyze the last 1,000 posts from Elon Musk for truth and veracity. More than half of what Elon posts on X is false or misleading, while most of the "true" posts are simply updates about his companies. pic.twitter.com/WSe9Nj3XC1
— Isaac Saul (@Ike_Saul) February 20, 2025
DiabloWags said:
Cant wait for Trump and Vice President FUsk to start cutting staff at the Social Security Administration, where staffing is already operating at a 50 year low.
Come on DOGE!
Start making drastic cuts to Social Security staff so 72 MILLION American's wont get their monthly checks on time.
Let's Goooooooooooooo!!!
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— Vince Langman (@LangmanVince) February 20, 2025
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DiabloWags said:
Cant wait for Trump and Vice President FUsk to start cutting staff at the Social Security Administration, where staffing is already operating at a 50 year low.
Come on DOGE!
Start making drastic cuts to Social Security staff so 72 MILLION American's wont get their monthly checks on time.
Let's Goooooooooooooo!!!
Soon. pic.twitter.com/09I4inc5tP
— Mostly Peaceful Memes (@MostlyPeacefull) February 20, 2025
If you really believed the DOGE bull**** then 100% of the "savings" should be returned to taxpayers not returned to the government where it will be used to offset another trillion or so of tax cuts. This is just a libertarian hit job on enemies.
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