Discussion on Musk's DoGE ideas, the federal deficit, and GDP

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sycasey
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.
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"What's the point of a debt ceiling if we keep raising it"

- - - Elon Musk
oski003
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.


Sure.
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This is how you MAGA!


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AND NOW DOGE IS GOING TO INVESTIGATE MUSK?

THIS IS HOW YOU MAGA!



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THIS IS HOW YOU MAGA!

Big props to President Trump, State Secretary Rubio, Elon Musk, and Big Balls!



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DiabloWags said:

This is how you MAGA!

Make Antioch Great Again!
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die. Unfortunately, they enjoy other benefits from USAID much more.

sycasey
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?


President Trump and Rubio fixed it. The limited worthwhile programs and agents were transfered to State.

Million dollar question: will we ever discover what was in the terabytes of data a USIP - United States Institute of Peace - Director DELETED?

DOGE recovered the data.

When DOGE unexpectedly broke it, they discovered pallets of cash, weapons, and a Director deleting their computer files. Sounds like another CIA grift. This is why they allegedly tried to assassinate President Trump.
sycasey
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movielover said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?


President Trump and Rubio fixed it. The limited worthwhile programs and agents were transfered to State.
Tell that to the starving kids' families.
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?

Because money was funneling to groups associated with Democrats?
Because Democrats were opposing Musk and DOGE efforts from the beginning?
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?

Because money was funneling to groups associated with Democrats?
Because Democrats were opposing Musk and DOGE efforts from the beginning?

Republicans have majorities in both houses.
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?

Because money was funneling to groups associated with Democrats?
Because Democrats were opposing Musk and DOGE efforts from the beginning?

Republicans have majorities in both houses.

Thus, USAID is gone.
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

USAID means United States Agency For International Development

It's a intelligence cutout that has nothing to do with saving children lol. Oh and the Washington Post is the mouthpiece for the CIA.
So these funding cuts did not kill any of these children, is that what you're saying? All of that reporting is false?
No the funding cuts didn't kill any children. That's actually ridiculous to say that. This is american taxpayer money that is suppose to be going to places that benefit the american people. The United States is not a charity. You know what is a charity? Churches. You know what American churches spent their charity money doing? Flooding the United States with immigrants from all over the world and profited off it. Go do some research on Catholic Charities of San Antonio and see what they spent their millions on.
So if money was going to something (like food services for children) and then that money was cut off and the children didn't get the food, you would say that the funding cuts had nothing to do with the children starving?

Interesting perspective.
I would say the money should never have went to that in the first place which is why the entire USAID got cut out of the government. Hello, is anybody home there? The CIA was using it to fund rebel groups and horrible dictators .
So the money should never have been spent to save starving children because the CIA did other bad things. Okay.

EDIT: I just want to point out here that the argument went from "no the spending cuts did not kill the children" to "okay they kind of did but we shouldn't have been spending that money anyway," within the span of about 40 minutes. Remarkable. I await the next step which will surely be "it's good those kids died, actually."


It really is mind boggling. MAGA doesn't want anything to do with reality at this point. So, for them, moving the goalposts is easy peasy. Anyway, I just love his "hello, is anybody home there?" It is the cherry on top.
And of course we have oski003 stupidly arguing above that Democrats should have scrambled a massive operation to immediately replace a thing the US government has been doing in multiple countries for years. I forgot, it's always the Democrats' fault!


No, I am arguing that this aid generally shouldn't come from U.S. taxpayers. If it does, it should be out in the open, instead of funneled by a secretive organization. I'd be much more comfortable if they spearheaded donor initiatives to help impoverished Africans.
If the administration actually wanted to funnel the aid in this direction, then they could have done that in an orderly way that people could plan for, instead of just instantly cutting off the money and allowing starving kids to die. You guys have been falsely presenting the issue like it's some binary choice.

The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?

Because money was funneling to groups associated with Democrats?
Because Democrats were opposing Musk and DOGE efforts from the beginning?

Republicans have majorities in both houses.

Thus, USAID is gone.

And too bad about the dead kids.
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sycasey said:




And too bad about the dead kids.
This is dishonest because there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from donating to NGO's.
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:




And too bad about the dead kids.
This is dishonest because there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from donating to NGO's.
And as I said, nothing stopping the Trump government from finding another way to aid those people instead of just cutting them off. They won't, though.
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:




And too bad about the dead kids.
This is dishonest because there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from donating to NGO's.
And as I said, nothing stopping the Trump government from finding another way to aid those people instead of just cutting them off. They won't, though.


He just stopped a lot of black-on-black death with an African Peace deal. MAGA / MAG
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:



The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?

Because money was funneling to groups associated with Democrats?
Because Democrats were opposing Musk and DOGE efforts from the beginning?

Republicans have majorities in both houses.

Is he just figuring this out now?
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Big Beautiful Bill said:


You didn't care about dead foreign kids when it was Genocide Joe's bombs that were killing them, so **** off with your fake moral posturing.



Welcome to your first day of posting here.
I think you'll fit in quite well.

Hope you arent counting on that nearby rural hospital to help you with your medical needs.
It will most likely be closing down now due to the BBB.

I just love it when Trumpanzees vote against themselves.

MAGA !

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DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:



The Democrats had their chance to fix USAID so millions of starving children in Africa don't have to die.
Or . . . Republicans could have fixed it themselves while not causing starving children to die. Why is everything always the Democrats' problem?

Because money was funneling to groups associated with Democrats?
Because Democrats were opposing Musk and DOGE efforts from the beginning?

Republicans have majorities in both houses.

Is he just figuring this out now?


It's pretty clear that for these guys it's not about good policy outcomes, it's just about having fun batting the political ping-pong ball back across the table. I just thought I'd make the abundantly clear in this case.
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Big Beautiful Bill said:




The best thing that ever happened to big Willie Brown was a 25 year old Kamala Harris.
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The EPA funneling $2 billion to a single NGO with political ties is exactly the kind of bureaucratic grift that robs taxpayers.
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Elon Musk tried tweaking his own AI to be less woke and it just became a Nazi.

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Can we take all this winning?

- Supremes affirm President Trump's ability to lay off Federal staff - 8 to 1 clobbering
- Massive Tariff Revenue update

I recently noted that comparing this May to last May, Tariff Revenue had QUADRUPLED.

Today Scott Bessett went further: we've taken in $100 Billion, and we could reach $300 Billion this year!!

That means over a full year, we could be looking at Tariff Revenues of $400 - $450 Billion over a 12-month period.

Fantastic news!! MAGA.

(Now is really the time to double down on great moves and have POTUS sign rescission bills for 90% of DOGEs cuts to waste, fraud, and abuse in Phase 1 now estimated at $200 Billion. The markets would be ecstatic!!)
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I have the privilege of being at a Social Security office today to attend to a matter involving a family member and I want to say the underfunding of the Social Security Administration is a disgrace. They are unable to help people with legitimate needs in a timely manner. The employees here are doing well but are overwhelmed and understaffed.

We should all want our government to run well. We should all support proper funding of government agencies.
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dajo9 said:

I have the privilege of being at a Social Security office today to attend to a matter involving a family member and I want to say the underfunding of the Social Security Administration is a disgrace. They are unable to help people with legitimate needs in a timely manner. The employees here are doing well but are overwhelmed and understaffed.

We should all want our government to run well. We should all support proper funding of government agencies.

It's always sucked to go to social security in California. The best Soc Security offices to go to are the ones in Ruralish locations. This has been a public service announcement.
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They need to take an axe to the State Department.

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Amuse: The Biden Bureaucracy Used Climate Rhetoric to Funnel Billions to Democrat NGOs

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movielover said:



Well, that would be $259.4 billion towards the $4 trillion that the Billionaire Benefits Bill will cost us.
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Bu bye USAID.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/usaid-officially-shuts-down-no-one-is-dying/
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movielover said:

Bu bye USAID.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/usaid-officially-shuts-down-no-one-is-dying/

I tried to click on this article (yeah, my mistake) and couldn't even read it because the page was immediately covered with pop-up ads. OK Boomer.
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sycasey said:

movielover said:

Bu bye USAID.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/usaid-officially-shuts-down-no-one-is-dying/

I tried to click on this article (yeah, my mistake) and couldn't even read it because the page was immediately covered with pop-up ads. OK Boomer.
It's been my experience that MAGA loves sites with popup ads. The more, the better.
 
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