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movielover
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

You should set an example and give away your own money to the poor. And then we'll follow in your footsteps.


THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!

THE "K" ECONOMY CONTINUES.



Bro, do you support the Democrats' plan to tax unrealized gains?


California Democrats proposed a 5% one-time (wink) tax on Billionaires total assets.

Fox News: California billionaires flee state's wealth tax in the most-predictable result ever

Karol Markowicz writes how billionaires are fleeing state over plan that could seize 50% of their holdings


"But wealthy Californians are already running for the door because the language in the draft of the measure sets the tax retroactively to January 1, 2026, and they know they can't rely on their fellow Californians to vote down the absurd proposal."

"...Larry Page and Sergey Brin, co-founders of Google, are the latest to bail on California. Garry Tan, president and CEO of Y Combinator and self-described "San Francisco Democrat" explained on X that the wealth tax wouldn't actually end up being "5%" of a billionaire's net worth.

"Larry and Sergey can't stay in California since the wealth tax as written would confiscate 50% of their Alphabet shares. Each own ~3% of Alphabet's stock, worth about $120 billion each at today's ~$4 trillion market cap. But because their shares have 10x voting power, the SEIU-UHW California billionaire tax would treat them as owning 30% of Alphabet (3% 10 = 30%). That means each founder's taxable wealth would be $1.2 trillion. A 5% wealth tax on $1.2 trillion = $60 billion tax bill, each. That's 50% of their actual Alphabet holdingswiped out by a '5%' tax."

"This language isn't an accident. Asset seizure is the ultimate plan of the socialists writing these proposals. Wealth isn't to be permitted in the socialist utopia and must be redistributed."

"...Chamath Palihapitiya, a tech billionaire and one of the hosts of the "All-In" podcast, hasn't left yet but is weighing his options. Palihapitiya puts the number of billionaire wealth that has left California in just the last month "in excess of $700B." He explains that the amount of wealth the proposal hoped to tax has already significantly decreased.

"That means the $2T of California wealth they expected to tax is now down to $1.3T and falling quickly. I would not be surprised if 2026 ended with less than $1T of billionaire wealth in California and decades and hundreds of lawsuits."

So their state 13.3% tax contribution is gone, other local taxes, fees, deposits, and likely future business endeavors. And why would they come back, they can fly in for a business meeting or a weekend.

End result? Taxes rise on the middle class to compensate for the lost revenues.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/california-billionaires-flee-states-wealth-tax-most-predictable-result-ever
Cal88
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movielover said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

You should set an example and give away your own money to the poor. And then we'll follow in your footsteps.


THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!

THE "K" ECONOMY CONTINUES.



Bro, do you support the Democrats' plan to tax unrealized gains?


California Democrats proposed a 5% one-time (wink) tax on Billionaires total assets.

Fox News: California billionaires flee state's wealth tax in the most-predictable result ever

Karol Markowicz writes how billionaires are fleeing state over plan that could seize 50% of their holdings


"But wealthy Californians are already running for the door because the language in the draft of the measure sets the tax retroactively to January 1, 2026, and they know they can't rely on their fellow Californians to vote down the absurd proposal."

"...Larry Page and Sergey Brin, co-founders of Google, are the latest to bail on California. Garry Tan, president and CEO of Y Combinator and self-described "San Francisco Democrat" explained on X that the wealth tax wouldn't actually end up being "5%" of a billionaire's net worth.

"Larry and Sergey can't stay in California since the wealth tax as written would confiscate 50% of their Alphabet shares. Each own ~3% of Alphabet's stock, worth about $120 billion each at today's ~$4 trillion market cap. But because their shares have 10x voting power, the SEIU-UHW California billionaire tax would treat them as owning 30% of Alphabet (3% 10 = 30%). That means each founder's taxable wealth would be $1.2 trillion. A 5% wealth tax on $1.2 trillion = $60 billion tax bill, each. That's 50% of their actual Alphabet holdingswiped out by a '5%' tax."

"This language isn't an accident. Asset seizure is the ultimate plan of the socialists writing these proposals. Wealth isn't to be permitted in the socialist utopia and must be redistributed."

"...Chamath Palihapitiya, a tech billionaire and one of the hosts of the "All-In" podcast, hasn't left yet but is weighing his options. Palihapitiya puts the number of billionaire wealth that has left California in just the last month "in excess of $700B." He explains that the amount of wealth the proposal hoped to tax has already significantly decreased.

"That means the $2T of California wealth they expected to tax is now down to $1.3T and falling quickly. I would not be surprised if 2026 ended with less than $1T of billionaire wealth in California and decades and hundreds of lawsuits."

So their state 13.3% tax contribution is gone, other local taxes, fees, deposits, and likely future business endeavors. And why would they come back, they can fly in for a business meeting or a weekend.

End result? Taxes rise on the middle class to compensate for the lost revenues.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/california-billionaires-flee-states-wealth-tax-most-predictable-result-ever



Don't Brin and Page spend more than 6 months per year in CA, in which case they are CA residents and should file as such?



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Asset seizure is the ultimate plan of the socialists writing these proposals. Wealth isn't to be permitted in the socialist utopia and must be redistributed.


Wealth should be permitted, but someone whose wealth is $120 billion should not be taxed the same way as someone with a wealth of $1.2 million.
movielover
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You're in favor of this new wealth tax?

How about we prevent the $280 Billion stolen from EDD under Newsom and Lockdowns?
PAC-10-BEAR
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movielover said:

You're in favor of this new wealth tax?

How about we prevent the $280 Billion stolen from EDD under Newsom and Lockdowns?

How about we tax Somalian unrealized wealth?
Cal88
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movielover said:

You're in favor of this new wealth tax?

How about we prevent the $280 Billion stolen from EDD under Newsom and Lockdowns?


I am in favor of a wealth tax for billionaires, but yeah 5% is not practical, somewhere around 1% for fortunes above $1 billion, 0.5% above $100 million or thereabouts.
movielover
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Cal88 said:

movielover said:

You're in favor of this new wealth tax?

How about we prevent the $280 Billion stolen from EDD under Newsom and Lockdowns?


I am in favor of a wealth tax for billionaires, but yeah 5% is not practical, somewhere around 1% for fortunes above $1 billion, 0.5% above $100 million or thereabouts.


One time? Every five years? And what's the purpose / goal?

How about the provision that takes 50% of their company shares?

It looks like this is already a massive loss, Billionaires fleeing, entrepreneurs will look to start companies elsewhere, Austin, etc.

Just as the high crime, social upheaval, and high taxes drove 20,000 millionaires out of the UK last year, a large chunk of their investor / business creator class. If that continues, they're toast.

The Right seems ascendant in Europe, though AfD candidates are dropping like flies. Same for South America.
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movielover said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

As Trump says, we are entering the Golden Age of America.
Where every commodity goes to the MOON and INFLATION rages.

If you thought inflation was bad under Biden, you ain't seen nothing yet!









Blessed.

It's going to zero!

Wags wants the Fed to cut interest rates only after the crash which is their tradition.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

movielover said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

As Trump says, we are entering the Golden Age of America.
Where every commodity goes to the MOON and INFLATION rages.

If you thought inflation was bad under Biden, you ain't seen nothing yet!









Blessed.

It's going to zero!

Wags wants the Fed to cut interest rates only after the crash which is their tradition.


PAC 10 BEAR WANTS THE FED TO CUT INTEREST RATES WITH Q4 GDP ESTIMATED AT 5.3%

AND INFLATION NOWHERE NEAR THE FED'S TARGET 2%

BRILLIANT!!!

LMFAO.




GDPNow - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

movielover said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

As Trump says, we are entering the Golden Age of America.
Where every commodity goes to the MOON and INFLATION rages.

If you thought inflation was bad under Biden, you ain't seen nothing yet!









Blessed.

It's going to zero!

Wags wants the Fed to cut interest rates only after the crash which is their tradition.


PAC 10 BEAR WANTS THE FED TO CUT INTEREST RATES WITH Q4 GDP ESTIMATED AT 5.3%

AND INFLATION NOWHERE NEAR THE FED'S TARGET 2%

BRILLIANT!!!

LMFAO.




GDPNow - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta




The main reason for coffee prices going up isn't Trump's tariffs. It's weather.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/04/why-coffee-prices-are-so-high-and-where-theyre-headed-next.html

"Weather volatility is perhaps the "most critical" short-term factor underpinning coffee supply and prices, since coffee cultivation and yield are "highly sensitive to its environment," according to a Bernstein report published in March.

A severe drought during Brazil's last summer season "devastated" the harvest, Berstein analysts wrote."

" Vietnam, the world's No. 2 supplier, was hit by a drought that caused coffee production to fall by 20% in 2024, according to Bernstein.

That was followed by heavy rainstorms that also crimped production, said Mike Hoffmann, professor emeritus at Cornell University and lead author of "Our Changing Menu: Climate Change and the Foods We Love and Need."

The dynamic "precipitation whiplash" reduces crop yield, he said."

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Investing.com: US Growth Looks Supercharged as Q4 GDP Nowcast Jumps Above 5%

https://www.investing.com/analysis/us-growth-looks-supercharged-as-q4-gdp-nowcast-jumps-above-5-200673077

Fortune: The 4.9% mystery: U.S. economy sees productivity surge, but drivers remain an 'open question,' top economist says

"While a spike in productivity -- essentially the measure of how much output a worker creates per hour -- is generally viewed as the "magic bullet" for economic growth without inflation, chief economist Michael Gapen insisted that the root cause of this specific acceleration remains elusive."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/4-9-mystery-u-economy-203821587.html
DiabloWags
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For the MAGA MORONS sitting waaaaaaaay in the baaaaaaaack of the Econ 1 class.

Rates are going higher.
Not lower.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
movielover
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Does it make you feel good to call people names?
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags
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Trump's tariffs continue to fail to hurt China.





"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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Shifting feelings about the economy. Any insight why Wags?
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

Trump's tariffs continue to fail to hurt China.








China has anticipated these tariffs and worked to reduce its dependence on the US market, which even before the sanctions represented only around 15% of their total exports.
DiabloWags
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Small Caps are a perfect 11 for 11 thus far in 2026.
But rising bond yields could cause them to take a rest.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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Do you think that the stock market is being manipulated for insiders?
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Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside

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DiabloWags
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The "Sell America Trade"

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
DiabloWags
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The Bond Market Vigilantes are alive and well in JAPAN.
Sound familiar?






"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
movielover
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Lutnick in Davos predicts Q1 6% GDP growth, says WEF Globalism failed.
DiabloWags
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And morons like Trump think that interest rates need to be lowered.

As I mentioned last Friday with the yield chart, the bond market says otherwise.
Yields are breaking out to the upside.

Duh.








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BearlySane88
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movielover said:

Lutnick in Davos predicts Q1 6% GDP growth, says WEF Globalism failed.


Bingo
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"There has been no greater engine of inequality than the Federal Reserve Bank"

- Stanley Druckenmiller
(Scott Bessent's mentor)
Cal88
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….but people somewhere cleaned up in that slaughter……and they are killing it today:

Stocks rebound from big sell-off after Trump rules out military action on Greenland.

Would it be possible to market time when you know that your public statements alone have the power to make the stock market go up and down like a yo-yo? Asking for a friend.


In other news….

The S&P 500 climbed 15.7% between Trump's second inauguration day and last Friday, which marked the final trading day of his first year in office.

It was up 24.1% during the first year of his prior term, and up 19.3% during Biden's first year.
Obama outperformed them both with a 35.3% gain.
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Growing an economy on lies is one strategy.

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United States Steel (Nippon Steel): Announcing a $14 billion growth plan, with $11 billion by 2028, focusing on high-tech, sustainable mills, including a new DRI plant at Big River Steel Works in Arkansas.

Pacific Steel Group: Building California's first new mill in 50 years in Mojave, targeting zero-carbon steel and creating hundreds of jobs.

Nucor: Investing $100 million to add an EAF melt shop in Kingman, Arizona, expanding its U.S. production.
Hybar & 72 Steel: New EAF plants planned for Osceola, AR (Hybar) and Pittsburgh, PA (72 Steel) in the coming years.

Arkansas as a Hub: Emerging as a key steelmaking center due to significant EAF growth, notes Site Selection Magazine.
movielover
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Key New & Expanded Plants/Facilities in 2025:

Big River Steel Works (Osceola, Arkansas) (BR2 Expansion):


Completed and fully started up, becoming North America's most advanced steel mill.
Produces sustainable steel, adding over 6 million tons capacity annually.
Broke ground on a new Direct-Reduced Iron (DRI) plant to feed electric arc furnaces, bolstering the domestic supply chain.
Expected to create 900 plant jobs plus construction jobs.

Mon Valley Works (Braddock, Pennsylvania):
Received $900 million in investment for new technology.
Features the first U.S. facility of its kind for advanced high-strength steels.

Includes a $150 million cogeneration facility to convert coke oven gas to electricity, improving sustainability
Cal88
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^I've read about a longtime BTC holder whale dumping $1 billion worth recently, is that correct?
PAC-10-BEAR
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I didn't hear about that, but I know whales have been dumping BTC and taking profits throughout 2025 while the ETFs have been gobbling them up.
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I am very disappointed in the 89% drop of fartcoin.
 
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