Charlie Kirk

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A kid who believed in the second amendment and trans rights, so half Repub and half Dem.

Killed Kirk with his grand father's rifle. The parents are to be commended for doing the unthinkable. Turning your kid in to face a death penalty
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movielover said:

They'll get the truth, but will we?

Yeah I don't think there's anybody politically connected to this unless we're talking about when they go after the funding...
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Anarchistbear said:

A kid who believed in the second amendment and trans rights, so half Repub and half Dem.

Killed Kirk with his grand father's rifle. The parents are to be commended for doing the unthinkable. Turning your kid in to face a death penalty

The kid didn't believe in the first amendment and knew Charlie was a Trump supporter.

He knew he wasn't a Republican, what he wasn't sure of was if he was straight or gay.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

A kid who believed in the second amendment and trans rights, so half Repub and half Dem.

Killed Kirk with his grand father's rifle. The parents are to be commended for doing the unthinkable. Turning your kid in to face a death penalty

The kid didn't believe in the first amendment and knew Charlie was a Trump supporter.

He knew he wasn't a Republican, what he wasn't sure of was if he was straight or gay.


I think he knew he was gay., but that isn't left or right. A screwed up kid who killed for "love".
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Anarchistbear said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

A kid who believed in the second amendment and trans rights, so half Repub and half Dem.

Killed Kirk with his grand father's rifle. The parents are to be commended for doing the unthinkable. Turning your kid in to face a death penalty

The kid didn't believe in the first amendment and knew Charlie was a Trump supporter.

He knew he wasn't a Republican, what he wasn't sure of was if he was straight or gay.


I think he knew he was gay., but that isn't left or right. A screwed up kid who killed for "love".

They had a very "touching" relationship.

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Anarchistbear said:

A kid who believed in the second amendment and trans rights, so half Repub and half Dem.

Killed Kirk with his grand father's rifle. The parents are to be commended for doing the unthinkable. Turning your kid in to face a death penalty

The kid didn't believe in the first amendment and knew Charlie was a Trump supporter.

He knew he wasn't a Republican, what he wasn't sure of was if he was straight or gay.


I think he knew he was gay., but that isn't left or right. A screwed up kid who killed for "love".

They had a very "touching" relationship.



Agree here. Bizzaro. Also bizzarro that essentially there is such disassociation - I mean pretty much sociopath writing as he isn't equating Kirk as a human being.,
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MinotStateBeav said:

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Seems like it's true that Robinson's roommate/partner had no idea what was going on.

We'll see if that's true once they scrub everything, I find it hard to believe he knew nothing but they will find the truth.


I'm sure that our "crack" podcaster . . . errrr... I mean FBI Director Kash Patel is on top of this!
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MinotStateBeav said:

movielover said:

They'll get the truth, but will we?

Yeah I don't think there's anybody politically connected to this unless we're talking about when they go after the funding...


Or.... if they actually look into WHY his security detail was so incredibly negligent.

A totally WIDE-OPEN event with no checkpoint, no bags being checked, no one using a metal detector.
And not a single "spotter" up on a roof top.

Do you really believe that these guys were really THIS DUMB?
Or paid off?


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going4roses said:



So y'all just gonna keep lying geez us h Christ


Your racist sources don't think a white shooter can be liberal? Going 4 Racism.

geez us h Christ
Anarchistbear
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This will make a great movie
movielover
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De-transitioner talks about the myriad medical issues, and the original diagnosis was the symptom, not the cause. Heart breaking. On meds for life.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOJPLhakTMF/?igsh=MTZhcmUzeXUydGt0YQ==
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> Do you really believe that these guys were really THIS DUMB?

stuff happens. always has, and will again
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ACC Bear said:



I realize that this is not the response I am supposed to have in this hyperpartisan moment but right now what I mostly feel is heartbreak. Heartbreak for the Kirk family. I disagreed with his politics but by all accounts a devoted husband and father. I am heart broken for TPUS folks who saw a colleague killed. And I am heart broken for this friend group and the shooters family.

How are we failing this generation? After reading that all I can think about is the song from Dear Evan Hansen that still breaks every piece of me when I hear it.

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movielover said:

They'll get the truth, but will we?

The text message exchange transcript doesn't show any timestamps?
sycasey
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MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

Anarchistbear said:



Seems like it's true that Robinson's roommate/partner had no idea what was going on.

We'll see if that's true once they scrub everything, I find it hard to believe he knew nothing but they will find the truth.

Pretty sure the Utah governor said as much as well, but maybe something else will come out.
going4roses
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White on white crime ?
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
going4roses
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Show me proof or it didn't happen… only right wingers roll like this
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
socaltownie
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

movielover said:

They'll get the truth, but will we?

The text message exchange transcript doesn't show any timestamps?

Here seems to be the best journalism that we have so far. If this doesn't just break everything in you for how we are failing this generation you have no soul.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie
MinotStateBeav
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Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.

He also goes onto say "Nobody was celebrating"...total absolute bollucks. They were excitedly warning people the day before that something was going to happen.
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smh said:

> Do you really believe that these guys were really THIS DUMB?

stuff happens. always has, and will again


If you were an experienced marksman, you'd be HIGHLY SKEPTICAL that Tyler Robinson used a 30:06 to kill Charlie Kirk. - - - There's a lot of stuff here that just "smells".
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MinotStateBeav said:

Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.


Belle Ciao is a song associated with anti-fascist resistance and is on the America First Groyper War Playlist, which is linked to Nick Fuentes' political group. Fuentes repeatedly bashed Kirk as a SELLOUT and FAKE CONSERVATIVE.




socaltownie
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MinotStateBeav said:

Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.

He also goes onto say "Nobody was celebrating"...total absolute bollucks. They were excitedly warning people the day before that something was going to happen.

Where is your proof the day before? I haven't seen ANY Of that reporting and it isn't in the indicment.

And the down arrows are pretty clearly shown to be a Helldivers 2 thing. I don't play it but it makes total sense and is the best explination that fits.
socaltownie
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DiabloWags said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.


Belle Ciao is a song associated with anti-fascist resistance and is on the America First Groyper War Playlist, which is linked to Nick Fuentes' political group. Fuentes repeated bashed Kirk as a SELLOUT and FAKE CONSERVATIVE.






OMG - you know what it also is....the dumb song that plays all the time on the radio in Far Cry 6 when you are driving around. I eventually turned it off. There has been a lot of non parsimonious explinations when we have pretty direct evidence he was pretty into gaming.
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socaltownie said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.

He also goes onto say "Nobody was celebrating"...total absolute bollucks. They were excitedly warning people the day before that something was going to happen.

Where is your proof the day before? I haven't seen ANY Of that reporting and it isn't in the indicment.

And the down arrows are pretty clearly shown to be a Helldivers 2 thing. I don't play it but it makes total sense and is the best explination that fits.





I'll add this as well for the dummies saying hurr durr he's a groyper!


As I said earlier, it looks like the roommate was told to delete things, the goodbye message is missing..so sounds like Mr. Twiggs got rid of that, I wonder how much digital evidence he destroyed.
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hmmmmmmmm. I am taking that with a HUGE grain of salt.

1) The fact that I am is the problem of hiring Fox news commentators for law enforcement duties.

2) And (see number 1) why in the WORLD if you actually had suspicions that they are accessories are you ****ing announcing it on national TV???!!!???? You want to keep that under wraps. Let the accessories talk all they want to. Monitor their phones.

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Anarchistbear said:

This will make a great movie


Throw in some drama with the State Department & UN ties to the paramilitary group, Armed Queers Salt Lake City, and its leader, and you got me hooked.
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socaltownie said:

DiabloWags said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.


Belle Ciao is a song associated with anti-fascist resistance and is on the America First Groyper War Playlist, which is linked to Nick Fuentes' political group. Fuentes repeated bashed Kirk as a SELLOUT and FAKE CONSERVATIVE.






OMG - you know what it also is....the dumb song that plays all the time on the radio in Far Cry 6 when you are driving around. I eventually turned it off. There has been a lot of non parsimonious explinations when we have pretty direct evidence he was pretty into gaming.

Yup, the bullet engravings are references to video games and internet memes, seems pretty clear.
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sycasey said:

socaltownie said:

DiabloWags said:

MinotStateBeav said:

So





Yup, the bullet engravings are references to video games and internet memes, seems pretty clear.


What is hard for most (including myself) is the the leap to killing someone in cold blood. I am not denying that it happened (and will happen). I indirectly was touched by the Santa Barbara Incel massacre so I not easily shocked. It still breaks my heart to see us lose young people like this and is just so hard to wrap my head around.
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movielover said:

socaltownie said:

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Yes. You have the freedom to be an *******. We have the freedim to call you one. What many oppose is that you wany us bite our tongue rather than call you out. I refuse.

It is not being an ******* or "transphobic" to have the science based opinion that there are only two sexes, to think trans women (i.e., biological males) should not participate in women's sports or invade women's spaces, and/or to think (again based on substantial science) that it is harmful to medically or surgically transition teenagers. These are mainstream (I believe majority) views where people are still vilified and, more importantly, trans people are told that they are mistreated simply because people hold these views.

Yet we've all heard the rhetoric that these reasonable beliefs are "fascist" and "killing trans people" which is just absurd rhetoric that creates a permission structure for violence. And as a result, there is a strong presence of trans people in antifa and have been recent mass shootings by trans people (or motivated by this extreme trans ideology).

That is a lot of words saying that you're not an ******* or mistreating someone for holding mainstream and quite reasonable beliefs.




OK. Lets unpack this a bit.

First, there are (mostly) two sexes but there are Many different ways that GENDER is expressed.

A way to think about this is realize that the US has a fairly wide range of accepted gender roles for those of XX sex (from bombshell hyper-feminity to tom boy rough it with the guys. Those with XX chromosomes have a fairly narrow range of what is consider acceptable male gender roles. For example, men who wanted to paint their finger nails would be considered at odds with majority gender roles - unless black and in a goth band ;-) You also would hopefully recognize that this is not historically (or culturally) fixed. Men used to wear wigs loved lace...

And yes, I am using that rather than Male and Female sexed because such terms have historical and cultural constest. Remember, it wasn''t very long ago (within our lifetimes if you are a 60 year old far like myself) where "Girls" were not considered lady like if they rode a bike with a straight cross bar rather than one that could accomodate a skirt.and where called "tom boys" if they did.


We've had gay, straight, bears (small b), bisexuals, transvestites and others for decades. A few items really pushed the 'Overton window' and received a lot of backlash.

1. Sex-change surgeries for confused children, allegedly exploded during Covid (social contagion?) and funded under Obamacare.

2. An explosion in drag queen social hours for children in schools, libraries, etc.

3. Trying to ramrod new self-identified pronouns including nonsensical they / them plural pronouns to an individual.

Detransitioner Chloe Cole is a perfect example. Mixed feelings as adolescence hit, liked being a jock, was told online she was trans, gained an immediate following and fanbase. Her parents were told if they didn't go along w her transition, she might commit suicide (a lie?). One counselor had misgivings, and was pulled off her case. Dr. Jordan Peterson says her feelings and insecurities were well within normal teenage angst. She had a double mastectomy.

She was never told the medical consequences, the affects of the powerful hormone blockers she would take, possible infertility, etc. At 15 or 16 she took a psychology class, and realized she wanted a family. She is now suing Kaiser for $75 million (?). Her online 'friends' disappeared when she de-transitioned.

It appears that CC had unqualified and rushed therapeutic care. Why the rush? Dr. Peterson claims conditions like bulimia can cluster w teenagers, and the same might happen with the new 'trans movement'. The apparent explosion of trans children in Hollywood would appear to confirm external factors having a huge influence.

Transgendered academic Dr. Camille Paglia has said that our social upheaval about sexuality, gender roles, etc., denote a civilization in decline, like ancient Rome. She grappled with gender dysphoria since her youth.

"Paglia doesn't mince words when it comes to this point. "Sex change is literally impossible," she says. "[E]very cell of our bodies, except for the blood, remains coded with our birth gender for life." She suggests that those who pursue gender reassignment are acting out in rebellion, instead of living out how they were born, as many insist is the case."

Her views are controversial to some, and some on the intolerant Left label her transphobic.

https://intellectualtakeout.org/2019/09/paglia-criticizing-transgenderism-is-not-transphobic/

Drag Queen hour has a boatload of problems, not the least being that 50% or more of our students are below-grade level with basic math and reading comprehension.




1. I raised this in another post: How much surgical gender-affirming care for minors is really going on? My sense is that it is a lot rarer than you seem to think it is. As it should be.

2. Regarding Drag Queen Story Hour, this is yet another topic where valued poster movielover and I agree. It seems like drag queens were barely even a thing anymore,, until that library story hour event was publicized. Now, it seems like the "PC" left is going out of their way to love drag queens, seemingly to flaunt how "progressive" they are. (SF Chron entertainment section would be a good example of this). I just don't see that as being appropriate for kids and, as far as reporting on them for adults, I really doubt if many people at all give a crap. Any political party that wants to lose elections, just keep talking about how wonderful drag queens are! To any drag queens out there, have a wonderful life, I have no problem with you, but I'm just not interested in your drag queen life or performances.
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MinotStateBeav said:

socaltownie said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.

He also goes onto say "Nobody was celebrating"...total absolute bollucks. They were excitedly warning people the day before that something was going to happen.

Where is your proof the day before? I haven't seen ANY Of that reporting and it isn't in the indicment.

And the down arrows are pretty clearly shown to be a Helldivers 2 thing. I don't play it but it makes total sense and is the best explination that fits.



Does this person have any association with Tyler Robinson? People on the internet can just say stuff. It doesn't mean they were involved.
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sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

socaltownie said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Sorry that was a puff piece cover by Klippenstein..."OH see these things on these bullets, they actually mean this other thing" while completely ignoring Bella Ciao and the 3 arrows down. We're not stupid. Most killers have other issues.

He also goes onto say "Nobody was celebrating"...total absolute bollucks. They were excitedly warning people the day before that something was going to happen.

Where is your proof the day before? I haven't seen ANY Of that reporting and it isn't in the indicment.

And the down arrows are pretty clearly shown to be a Helldivers 2 thing. I don't play it but it makes total sense and is the best explination that fits.



Does this person have any association with Tyler Robinson? People on the internet can just say stuff. It doesn't mean they were involved.

That would be true if there wasn't other accounts doing it too.
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Conspiracy theories are whack from Groyper, to Israelis to false flag to Armed Queers. The kid killed someone with grandpa's gun and left it in the woods.
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MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

Anarchistbear said:



Seems like it's true that Robinson's roommate/partner had no idea what was going on.

We'll see if that's true once they scrub everything, I find it hard to believe he knew nothing but they will find the truth.


I can see your bloodlust all the way here in NJ
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dajo9 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

Anarchistbear said:



Seems like it's true that Robinson's roommate/partner had no idea what was going on.

We'll see if that's true once they scrub everything, I find it hard to believe he knew nothing but they will find the truth.


I can see your bloodlust all the way here in NJ

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