Charlie Kirk

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Anarchistbear
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Tyler chat after thre killing from NYT

Tagging Mr. Robinson's username on Discord, a messaging platform, the acquaintance attached the images and wrote "wya" where you at? with a skull emoji, suggesting that Mr. Robinson, 22, looked like the man being sought.

Mr. Robinson replied within a minute. His "doppelganger," he wrote, was trying to "get me in trouble."
"Tyler killed Charlie!!!!" another user wrote, apparently in jest.

After Mr. Robinson joked that the gunman was his look-alike, another user suggested that the group could turn Mr. Robinson in and get the $100,000 reward that the F.B.I. was offering.

"Only if I get a cut," Mr. Robinson responded.

Someone posted, "Whatever you do, don't go to a mcdonalds anytime soon," a reference to the arrest of Luigi Mangione, who was found at a McDonald's restaurant and charged with the killing of a health insurance chief executive in Manhattan.
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sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

wifeisafurd said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Calling Trump, Hitler and his followers, Nazis, are acceptable but celebrating Charlie's assassination can get you fired? I'm not sure I understand the left-wing rulebook anymore.

The firings are being done by employers, many being school districts.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charlie-kirk-death-teachers-professors-nationwide-fired-disciplined-s-rcna230845

The right is intent on enforcing the cancel culture rules that were established by the left in COVID and BLM days, which included not only firings but debanking, deplatforming, etc.

Like you, I don't like the rules of engagement. But those are the rules - that shipped sailed a long time ago.

But the argument on the right was that this kind of cancel culture would just unfairly sweep up a bunch of innocent people and ruin their lives (I actually agreed on that point and was not entirely comfortable with where some of the #MeToo stuff went, for example). So where does that end? You think the right won't face a backlash at some point if they do the same thing?

The primary argument was that people were being cancelled for things that were not outside the Overton window, for things that were objectively true, and/or for statements that were not woke enough. Like saying that the COVID vaccine didn't prevent covid (which was true) and saying "all lives matter", which were cancellable offenses. It wasn't really a question of innocence, but rather intolerance of dissenting views.

That was the argument. Doesn't matter any more because conservatives are tired of having different rules apply to them and now want to enforce the same rules against the left. And the right isn't fearing backlash because: (i) they have already suffered from these rules on the front end; (ii) they think the country has to some extent rejected many of the left's excesses (e.g., trans athletes in womens sports); and (iii) most importantly, if/when the left regains political power, they fully expect the left to revert to their prior practice no matter what the republicans do. Is that shortsighted? Maybe. But the general thinking seems to be that unless the Dems/liberals pay a price for rules they established, they will never change the rules. Why would they?
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Anarchistbear said:

Tyler chat after thre killing from NYT

Tagging Mr. Robinson's username on Discord, a messaging platform, the acquaintance attached the images and wrote "wya" where you at? with a skull emoji, suggesting that Mr. Robinson, 22, looked like the man being sought.

Mr. Robinson replied within a minute. His "doppelganger," he wrote, was trying to "get me in trouble."
"Tyler killed Charlie!!!!" another user wrote, apparently in jest.

After Mr. Robinson joked that the gunman was his look-alike, another user suggested that the group could turn Mr. Robinson in and get the $100,000 reward that the F.B.I. was offering.

"Only if I get a cut," Mr. Robinson responded.

Someone posted, "Whatever you do, don't go to a mcdonalds anytime soon," a reference to the arrest of Luigi Mangione, who was found at a McDonald's restaurant and charged with the killing of a health insurance chief executive in Manhattan.

If there's one place I don't look to for accurate information on this, it's the New York Times
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OsoDorado said:

Not surprising at all:

Trump is grieving for Charlie Kirk by golfing this weekend in Bedminster, New Jersey, at Trump National Golf Club.

Trump grieving today on the golf course:

calpoly
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OsoDorado said:

OsoDorado said:

Not surprising at all:

Trump is grieving for Charlie Kirk by golfing this weekend in Bedminster, New Jersey, at Trump National Golf Club.

Trump grieving today on the golf course:



I guess that a step up from hiring a hooker!
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Public memorial service for Charlie Kirk, 31, slated for Sept. 21 in Arizona | Fox News https://www.foxnews.com/us/turning-point-usa-announces-massive-public-memorial-service-charlie-kirk-arizona-football-stadium

I have seen estimates as high as 70% with regard to the percentage of players in the NFL that are Black. I wonder what their thoughts are regarding the use of this venue?
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Elon Musk: The Left celebrates murder.

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Is anyone surprised?
concordtom
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

concordtom said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Big C said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Big C said:

going4roses said:

The infatuation with trans people is wild. Seem an awfully suspect like a desire or a wish to belong /identify as or maybe is it's raw attraction perhaps … I'm just saying

They seem obsessed. Very bizarre.

Either that, or the other side is delusional.

Maybe "the other side" is just neither infatuated nor obsessed.

Maybe this is why Muslim countries don't tolerate transgenderism?

Tolerate.
Interesting word choice.

I think if we can tolerate you here then you can tolerate trans.

I tolerate you while you have me on ignore.

Don't ignore me. Tolerate me.


If I said I put you on ignore previously, you somehow got un-ignored.

Good morning. I hope you have a nice day. Great win by Cal last night. I was surprised, as MN seemed to be gaining the upper hand at the LoS. But Cal dug deep. Gutted for the bouncing punt that suddenly made a B-line for their returner's ankles. The twists of fate FAVORED Cal last night.

Okay, unifying statement over.
Probably back to arguing now.
concordtom
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smh said:

Big C said:

And with that, I am off to Berkeley! Go Bears, beat the Gophers!




Aw, I thought I was gonna get a whole episode.
Okay, never mind. Don't bother. I won't do it now.
concordtom
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Big C said:


I wonder how many months until Kirk's widow becomes the next Presidential Press Secretary. And then what will happen to the current blond?



1. She will be pregnant, you can guess who the father is.

2. Republicans wish to "right the ship", which means (as Charlie Kirk said) having more babies and staying home to raise them.
In other words, "You're Fired!" for being pregnant.

3. Don Jr will try to court, and bang, Erika Kirk. The outcome here is in doubt, but it's the drama everyone wants to see.

4. Trump Sr says "it's great for ratings!", and uses it as cover for his last scheme get rich off the American public. A "finders fee" for every oil change your car gets. I mean, you wouldn't be able to change the oil on your car if it wasn't for his drill-baby-drill policy. And the correct response is "Thank you, sir, may I have another."

Well, that's what he trained his aforementioned former press secretary to say, and look what happened to her!
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NVBear78 said:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/09/13/maher_the_real_war_is_not_between_left_and_right_its_between_the_people_who_want_a_war_and_the_people_who_dont.html


Just reading the link, is that supposed to be a Hot Take by Maher in order to get him more eyeballs, make him more relevant?

He's no intellectual, you know.
Just another pot smoking blabbermouth.
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wifeisafurd said:

cal83dls79 said:

Imagine being a parent today with a trans kid. I'd be terrified. My friends who do are scared. And if you don't understand that I can't help you.

Or your son who may have loved a trans kid and being a conservative gun loving family you are somehow involved in a right wing conspiracy to kill Kirk. UFB stupid.

Anyone have any hard evidence the authorities are wrong is saying the suspect acted alone?


The entire situation is horrifying.

I'll take your wonderings a bit further.
IF the roommate is trans, it's not far fetched to ponder that Tyler and roommate were collectively incensed by Kirk's harsh, critical, insulting, offensive, hurtful language. And that Tyler made the horrible decision to respond with deadly violence.

However, it seems to me that if that is roughly how it went down, then am
I wrong to suggest that Kirk was kind of acting like a bully who was picking on folks?
And there are school yard rules (and laws in other spheres) against bullying.

I dunno. Have a field day ripping this suggestion - I'd have to go find Kirk's words. But I always felt like Kirk was being provocative, saying controversial things sharply in order to elicit a reaction. It made me angry to listen to him.

So, I turned him off. I stopped listening to people like Tucker and Hannity who just piss me off - because they lie and misrepresent and divide, AND I can't respond.

But Tyler decided he could respond.
He's young and foolish and made a horrible decision!!


And you'll appreciate this, Wife…
I was thinking yesterday that my style of writing saucy things on here is not so different than all those I rip on in the media.

Pleasantries don't garner much of a response. To quote Don Henley, "Dirty Laundry" does!

So then I realized I was simply being part of the problem. Yikes!!


It's at moments like these I think George Bush Sr was pretty alright!


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concordtom said:

Big C said:


I wonder how many months until Kirk's widow becomes the next Presidential Press Secretary. And then what will happen to the current blond?



1. She will be pregnant, you can guess who the father is.

2. Republicans wish to "right the ship", which means (as Charlie Kirk said) having more babies and staying home to raise them.
In other words, "You're Fired!" for being pregnant.

3. Don Jr will try to court, and bang, Erika Kirk. The outcome here is in doubt, but it's the drama everyone wants to see.

4. Trump Sr says "it's great for ratings!", and uses it as cover for his last scheme get rich off the American public. A "finders fee" for every oil change your car gets. I mean, you wouldn't be able to change the oil on your car if it wasn't for his drill-baby-drill policy. And the correct response is "Thank you, sir, may I have another."

Well, that's what he trained his aforementioned former press secretary to say, and look what happened to her!


Disgusting post, vile and hatred in the form of "comedy."
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BREAKING NEWS

3 years ago Tyler Robinson had breakfast at a diner and 2 tables over a transgender person was having a cup of coffee. Kash Patel promises to relentlessly follow this lead.
concordtom
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This analysis of Kirk was posted 1 month ago.



concordtom
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

Big C said:


I wonder how many months until Kirk's widow becomes the next Presidential Press Secretary. And then what will happen to the current blond?



1. She will be pregnant, you can guess who the father is.

2. Republicans wish to "right the ship", which means (as Charlie Kirk said) having more babies and staying home to raise them.
In other words, "You're Fired!" for being pregnant.

3. Don Jr will try to court, and bang, Erika Kirk. The outcome here is in doubt, but it's the drama everyone wants to see.

4. Trump Sr says "it's great for ratings!", and uses it as cover for his last scheme get rich off the American public. A "finders fee" for every oil change your car gets. I mean, you wouldn't be able to change the oil on your car if it wasn't for his drill-baby-drill policy. And the correct response is "Thank you, sir, may I have another."

Well, that's what he trained his aforementioned former press secretary to say, and look what happened to her!


Disgusting post, vile and hatred in the form of "comedy."


You can make all of the people laugh some of the time, and some of the people laugh all of the time, but you can't make all of the people laugh all of the time.

So, I'm sorry, I didn't get a laugh out of you this time.
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I hope Robinson has a trans friend. Killing for love makes a lot more sense than any other motive offered.
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bearister said:

Public memorial service for Charlie Kirk, 31, slated for Sept. 21 in Arizona | Fox News https://www.foxnews.com/us/turning-point-usa-announces-massive-public-memorial-service-charlie-kirk-arizona-football-stadium

I have seen estimates as high as 70% with regard to the percentage of players in the NFL that are Black. I wonder what their thoughts are regarding the use of this venue?


Have you not seen the number of black nfl players supporting Charlie/ condemning the violent rhetoric? I think you would be very surprised how many black athletes are republican or at least right leaning.
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

Big C said:


I wonder how many months until Kirk's widow becomes the next Presidential Press Secretary. And then what will happen to the current blond?



1. She will be pregnant, you can guess who the father is.

2. Republicans wish to "right the ship", which means (as Charlie Kirk said) having more babies and staying home to raise them.
In other words, "You're Fired!" for being pregnant.

3. Don Jr will try to court, and bang, Erika Kirk. The outcome here is in doubt, but it's the drama everyone wants to see.

4. Trump Sr says "it's great for ratings!", and uses it as cover for his last scheme get rich off the American public. A "finders fee" for every oil change your car gets. I mean, you wouldn't be able to change the oil on your car if it wasn't for his drill-baby-drill policy. And the correct response is "Thank you, sir, may I have another."

Well, that's what he trained his aforementioned former press secretary to say, and look what happened to her!


Disgusting post, vile and hatred in the form of "comedy."



PS: until just now, I didn't realize the humorous double entendre in Drill Baby Drill in my "vile" joke.
Hahaha, that's classic!

I mean, I was merely highlighting trump's penchant to get rich off the presidency by use of a misguided, or even illegal, policy.

But then, placing him as the driller in the first part of the bit? Classic.
I wonder if I can create an AI image of that!

Maybe I can submit it as a cartoon for The New Yorker.




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dajo9 said:

BREAKING NEWS

3 years ago Tyler Robinson had breakfast at a diner and 2 tables over a transgender person was having a cup of coffee. Kash Patel promises to relentlessly follow this lead.


So you're minimizing the fact that he lived and likely was in a relationship with his trans roommate? This isn't some far flung connection like you make it seem.

That being said, no clue why he shot Charlie but it's starting to line up like the right thought it would and the opposite of what all of you on here claimed it to would be. Shooter wasn't far right, or even close to it.
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OsoDorado said:






"Pull my finger" ????
concordtom
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BearlySane88 said:

dajo9 said:

BREAKING NEWS

3 years ago Tyler Robinson had breakfast at a diner and 2 tables over a transgender person was having a cup of coffee. Kash Patel promises to relentlessly follow this lead.


So you're minimizing the fact that he lived and likely was in a relationship with his trans roommate? This isn't some far flung connection like you make it seem.

That being said, no clue why he shot Charlie but it's starting to line up like the right thought it would and the opposite of what all of you on here claimed it to would be. Shooter wasn't far right, or even close to it.


How about if NONE OF US try to condemn entire groups of people, specifically one half of the US or the other half (as there's only two halves in a Left-Right model) , simply because of the singular act of a singular person.

Can we agree that what Tyler did was specific to Tyler, and that it was horrible?
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bearister said:

Public memorial service for Charlie Kirk, 31, slated for Sept. 21 in Arizona | Fox News https://www.foxnews.com/us/turning-point-usa-announces-massive-public-memorial-service-charlie-kirk-arizona-football-stadium

I have seen estimates as high as 70% with regard to the percentage of players in the NFL that are Black. I wonder what their thoughts are regarding the use of this venue?


It's just a venue rental.
Most of the players are probably not supporters of the Monsters of Rock tour, either.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Is anyone surprised?


Untrue tweet presented as fact.

You should recognize such tactics and reject them!!
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Anarchistbear said:

Tyler chat after thre killing from NYT

Tagging Mr. Robinson's username on Discord, a messaging platform, the acquaintance attached the images and wrote "wya" where you at? with a skull emoji, suggesting that Mr. Robinson, 22, looked like the man being sought.

Mr. Robinson replied within a minute. His "doppelganger," he wrote, was trying to "get me in trouble."
"Tyler killed Charlie!!!!" another user wrote, apparently in jest.

After Mr. Robinson joked that the gunman was his look-alike, another user suggested that the group could turn Mr. Robinson in and get the $100,000 reward that the F.B.I. was offering.

"Only if I get a cut," Mr. Robinson responded.

Someone posted, "Whatever you do, don't go to a mcdonalds anytime soon," a reference to the arrest of Luigi Mangione, who was found at a McDonald's restaurant and charged with the killing of a health insurance chief executive in Manhattan.


Wow!
This is intriguing!
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DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

wifeisafurd said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Calling Trump, Hitler and his followers, Nazis, are acceptable but celebrating Charlie's assassination can get you fired? I'm not sure I understand the left-wing rulebook anymore.

The firings are being done by employers, many being school districts.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charlie-kirk-death-teachers-professors-nationwide-fired-disciplined-s-rcna230845

They were in violation of their own company's hate speech policies? But this wasn't work-related or directed towards their own coworkers.


At FOX NEWS, you can tell everyone to "Just Kill Them" when it comes to the homeless.
And you have absolute job security.

I give you Brian Kilmeade.





Honestly, if there was ever any verbal slip up that should cost a tv personality their job, this is it.

This is the worst comment I've ever heard.
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Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.
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concordtom said:

wifeisafurd said:

cal83dls79 said:

Imagine being a parent today with a trans kid. I'd be terrified. My friends who do are scared. And if you don't understand that I can't help you.

Or your son who may have loved a trans kid and being a conservative gun loving family you are somehow involved in a right wing conspiracy to kill Kirk. UFB stupid.

Anyone have any hard evidence the authorities are wrong is saying the suspect acted alone?


The entire situation is horrifying.

I'll take your wonderings a bit further.
IF the roommate is trans, it's not far fetched to ponder that Tyler and roommate were collectively incensed by Kirk's harsh, critical, insulting, offensive, hurtful language. And that Tyler made the horrible decision to respond with deadly violence.

However, it seems to me that if that is roughly how it went down, then am
I wrong to suggest that Kirk was kind of acting like a bully who was picking on folks?
And there are school yard rules (and laws in other spheres) against bullying.

I dunno. Have a field day ripping this suggestion - I'd have to go find Kirk's words. But I always felt like Kirk was being provocative, saying controversial things sharply in order to elicit a reaction. It made me angry to listen to him.

So, I turned him off. I stopped listening to people like Tucker and Hannity who just piss me off - because they lie and misrepresent and divide, AND I can't respond.

But Tyler decided he could respond.
He's young and foolish and made a horrible decision!!


And you'll appreciate this, Wife…
I was thinking yesterday that my style of writing saucy things on here is not so different than all those I rip on in the media.

Pleasantries don't garner much of a response. To quote Don Henley, "Dirty Laundry" does!

So then I realized I was simply being part of the problem. Yikes!!


It's at moments like these I think George Bush Sr was pretty alright!




Just for the record, I'm not saying what the assisting motives were at this juncture. Several news reports have said that the roommate is now a cooperating witness and not a suspect. But they are just news reports. I'm not saying your take is wrong, but is premature.
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Anarchistbear said:

Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.

Generally the view was the you could be wrong and indecent in this country, and that a discussion of ideas would counter that. BG's view is that one side stifled the debate of ideas and now needs to pay the price for doing so.
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wifeisafurd said:

Anarchistbear said:

Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.

Generally the view was the you could be wrong and indecent in this country, and that a discussion of ideas would counter that. BG's view is that one side stifled the debate of ideas and now needs to pay the price for doing so.


Both sides are uninterested in debate. The MacNeil- Lehrer era is over. MSNBC and Fox are partisan mouthpieces. You watch them to validate your own beliefs not to debate and be educated. What they say is not "news" it's hysteria drenched opinion. Let them be
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


It's official now.


I'm not validating your assertion by asking this question, but what does this mean or do for you if so?
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Reminder that all of these pearl-clutching MAGAs laughed at this:
 
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