going4roses said:We’ve reached the point where straight white male school shooters are now being painted as the left. Like, come on. Give it a rest. https://t.co/l5gp2lHlcW
— Akilah Hughes (@AkilahObviously) September 16, 2025
So y'all just gonna keep lying geez us h Christ
socaltownie said:
Before last 2 weeks i both didnt know who kirk was and didnt really care. I also gwnerally dont get that animated by culture was issues as i tend to believe strongly on liberty and your right to be an *******.
What i do care about is ginning people up with outright falsehoods. Here is kirk doing that.....
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOgd0-TDTRe/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
And here is the timeline
https://newrepublic.com/post/175086/right-blaming-hawaii-wildfire-wokeness
Free country. Monetize outrage. But lets stop calling this man a deep intellectual and a seeker of the truth.
chazzed said:
Everybody remember: the behavior below is the kind that oski003, etc. admired in Kirk. Now that some morons are saying and posting tasteless things about Kirk's assassination, however, they are clutching their pearls.Charlie laughed.
— ADAM (@AdameMedia) September 16, 2025
The co-host laughed.
The crowd laughed.
The murder of 400,000 people, and they think it’s hilarious.
Now leftists make jokes about 1 man and its end of the world.
Hypocrites.
pic.twitter.com/DUdqIGXFeS
<Crickets>sycasey said:HawaiiBear33 said:sycasey said:HawaiiBear33 said:sycasey said:DiabloWags said:
MAGA turning up the rhetoric.
As expected.
It's interesting that given the comments I've seen here about how much "The Left" is celebrating Kirk's death, I've seen sentiments like the above from the right a lot more often than I've seen anything celebratory from the left.
Mods shut down the thread early showing the start of thousands of liberals celebrating the assassination…Left-wing activists hold gathering to CELEBRATE Charlie Kirk being killed.
— Oli London (@OliLondonTV) September 11, 2025
“We got Charlie in the neck.”
pic.twitter.com/88JowXOyPV
If you only look at liberal controlled propaganda you might not see these
Again, I said I'm sure such people exist but these are just random idiots, not major influencers within the American left.
There are millions including influencers with large followings and aoc and Crockett and other politicians
AOC and Crockett celebrated Kirk's death?
HawaiiBear33 said:sycasey said:BearlySane88 said:sycasey said:BearlySane88 said:sycasey said:BearlySane88 said:Debunking The Biggest Lies Told About Charlie Kirk
— Amir Odom (@amirxodom) September 13, 2025
(0:00) - Intro
(10:58) - On Second Amendment
(12:48) - On Empathy
(15:42) - On Gay People
(17:58) - On Trans People
(24:21) - On Racism
(28:21) - On Affirmative Action
(30:58) - On Critical Race Theory
(34:56) - On Illegal… pic.twitter.com/6NKI1L4jVt
I was thinking more something straight from Kirk himself.
It's includes clips of Kirk highlighting his core beliefs of each issue listed
Okay, but the argument from Kirk fans is that people on the left just unfairly take short clips of him saying negative stuff and that you can't see the full context. If a fan like this is selectively showing you POSITIVE clips of him, isn't that just the same thing on the other end?
What's a good way to get the full experience of the guy?
Fair point. I'll look later today and see if I can find something that fits more what you're looking for
Okay. So I did watch most of that guy's video you posted and here's my reaction:
Some of the points are fair, Kirk wasn't necessarily explicitly racist against Blacks or Latinos, just very much against DEI and affirmative action programs. One can agree or disagree with that but I wouldn't call it fundamentally offensive to say so.
When he talks about Kirk's opinions on LGBT issues is where you can tell this guy has to start tip-toeing around what Kirk actually said, especially because he's gay. Kirk explicitly says that he wouldn't allow gay marriage. The guy in the video kind of cuts off the clip right there and says in a hand-wavey kind of way, "Well I'm not going to dismiss the guy because of one opinion." Okay, maybe he wouldn't but could you see why a lot of gay or lesbian folks would pretty much call that a deal-breaker? If Charlie Kirk were in charge he'd take away their rights, and that seems pretty explicit to me. From my perspective, seeing this clip doesn't help at all. I dislike him even more after seeing it.
On the trans stuff: Kirk is polite with the trans person who questioned him in the clip, I'll give him that. And the criticism of clinics rushing to diagnose and prescribe medicine or surgery to kids who might show gender dysphoria is fair. But he also quite explicitly says that you shouldn't call a person by their preferred pronouns because it's a lie, and then he goes into saying that you can't change chromosomes, etc. But that wasn't the argument from the student; the student says that it's about common courtesy. And you know what? I think the student is right! It absolutely is rude if a person says to you, "I want you to call me 'she' now even though I was born as a male, and also by this new name" and you refuse to do so. Again, to me this does not make Charlie Kirk look good, and this kind of argument kind of gives away the game to me that it's not just about kids or women's sports, it's about denying the existence of trans people and even adults' desire to live their lives as they want.
If this is meant to be the friendliest argument in favor of Charlie Kirk, then I say no thanks. Doesn't mean he should have been shot, of course he shouldn't have. But I will continue to say he was a toxic presence in our politics when he was alive.
Thanks for actually looking somewhat as opposed to most liberals who just listen to what their masters tell them.
He pushes his Christian values. I don't agree with them all but it is by far his first identity. You assume that if he were in charge he would make all his beliefs the law. Can you find any instance of him trying to force anybody to do anything?
