91Cal said:

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Econ141 said:

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accprisoner said:

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91Cal said:

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sycasey said:

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ColoradoBear said:

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berserkeley said:

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JimSox said:

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Piratefan2102 said:

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Just saw that CollegeAD reported that the ACC Presidents are scheduled to meet tomorrow.

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Ok. Why tomorrow? Negotiations, if there are any, have been going on for weeks. Now we're approaching some kind of deadline I guess. By now everyone's final final position must be known. Either a vote is flipped or not. So get this endless process over. Yes or no. Get the Zoom going and vote right now. Sheesh!
(Okay rant over).

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As has been stated in other threads by those more in the know, the ACC will not take a vote unless the answer is yes. If no, we will either wait forever or accept when its time to move on.

Those same in the know people on here suggested a few days ago that the vote would take place Tuesday. Why Tuesday? Probably because that was the time it would take to get the last details sorted out to convert the UNC/NCSU votes from a "no" to a "yes."

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Is the rest of the ACC against giving Clemson/FSU extra money? Some number would make them flip I'd think. Guess it also depends on what ESPN will kick in.

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The NC schools seem closer to yes, and you only need one of them to flip. So the focus would be on what gets their vote. Clemson and FSU are likely much harder "no" votes.

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If the NC schools vote yes tomorrow then it will be announced as unanimous with whatever the revenue splits end up being. A show of unity even if only for show will look good for recruiting for all conference schools. Clemson and FSU will be able to show they got more dough and all the others can say the conference is staying intact.

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ACC insider here: the NC schools flipped. You're in with stanford. Just be aware what an awful mistake you've made. The acc has a contract with ESPN with a composition clause that allows ESPN to renegotiate payouts with schools, but not the acc to negotiate for more money. FSU and Clemson are going to slice the throat of the ACC sometime in the next year. ESPN will slash the payout to the bone after Clemson and FSU leave and the ACC will crumble if 8 schools find landing spots.


Also, prepare to get absolutely hosed on every single call in every single sport whenever you play a school from tobacco road. Pac 12 refs are like little children compared to the game rigging masters at work in the ACC.


That being said,
welcome aboard.

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We have battered wife syndrome - we wouldn't be in a conference unless it hosed us on calls or used us a whipping boy. Thanks for the welcome - I'm sure we will feel right at home.

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Exactly! Case file exhibit #1 Skov unpenalized hit on Goff: https://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=10025907 (someone has the video)

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Dothechop2 said:

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I don't think the ACC would be that stupid though. I don't think they would add teams if they knew it would give FSU and Clemson the chance to jump ship.

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accprisoner said:

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Dothechop2 said:

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I don't think the ACC would be that stupid though. I don't think they would add teams if they knew it would give FSU and Clemson the chance to jump ship.

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They're jumping ship regardless. This is a move to try and convince ESPN not to kill them on the composition clause and collapse the conference afterwards.

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accprisoner said:

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91Cal said:

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sycasey said:

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ColoradoBear said:

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berserkeley said:

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JimSox said:

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Piratefan2102 said:

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Just saw that CollegeAD reported that the ACC Presidents are scheduled to meet tomorrow.

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Ok. Why tomorrow? Negotiations, if there are any, have been going on for weeks. Now we're approaching some kind of deadline I guess. By now everyone's final final position must be known. Either a vote is flipped or not. So get this endless process over. Yes or no. Get the Zoom going and vote right now. Sheesh!
(Okay rant over).

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As has been stated in other threads by those more in the know, the ACC will not take a vote unless the answer is yes. If no, we will either wait forever or accept when its time to move on.

Those same in the know people on here suggested a few days ago that the vote would take place Tuesday. Why Tuesday? Probably because that was the time it would take to get the last details sorted out to convert the UNC/NCSU votes from a "no" to a "yes."

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Is the rest of the ACC against giving Clemson/FSU extra money? Some number would make them flip I'd think. Guess it also depends on what ESPN will kick in.

---

The NC schools seem closer to yes, and you only need one of them to flip. So the focus would be on what gets their vote. Clemson and FSU are likely much harder "no" votes.

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If the NC schools vote yes tomorrow then it will be announced as unanimous with whatever the revenue splits end up being. A show of unity even if only for show will look good for recruiting for all conference schools. Clemson and FSU will be able to show they got more dough and all the others can say the conference is staying intact.

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ACC insider here: the NC schools flipped. You're in with stanford. Just be aware what an awful mistake you've made. The acc has a contract with ESPN with a composition clause that allows ESPN to renegotiate payouts with schools, but not the acc to negotiate for more money. FSU and Clemson are going to slice the throat of the ACC sometime in the next year. ESPN will slash the payout to the bone after Clemson and FSU leave and the ACC will crumble if 8 schools find landing spots.


Also, prepare to get absolutely hosed on every single call in every single sport whenever you play a school from tobacco road. Pac 12 refs are like little children compared to the game rigging masters at work in the ACC.


That being said,
welcome aboard.

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calumnus said:

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91Cal said:

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Econ141 said:

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accprisoner said:

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91Cal said:

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sycasey said:

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ColoradoBear said:

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berserkeley said:

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JimSox said:

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Piratefan2102 said:

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Just saw that CollegeAD reported that the ACC Presidents are scheduled to meet tomorrow.

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Ok. Why tomorrow? Negotiations, if there are any, have been going on for weeks. Now we're approaching some kind of deadline I guess. By now everyone's final final position must be known. Either a vote is flipped or not. So get this endless process over. Yes or no. Get the Zoom going and vote right now. Sheesh!
(Okay rant over).

---

As has been stated in other threads by those more in the know, the ACC will not take a vote unless the answer is yes. If no, we will either wait forever or accept when its time to move on.

Those same in the know people on here suggested a few days ago that the vote would take place Tuesday. Why Tuesday? Probably because that was the time it would take to get the last details sorted out to convert the UNC/NCSU votes from a "no" to a "yes."

---

Is the rest of the ACC against giving Clemson/FSU extra money? Some number would make them flip I'd think. Guess it also depends on what ESPN will kick in.

---

The NC schools seem closer to yes, and you only need one of them to flip. So the focus would be on what gets their vote. Clemson and FSU are likely much harder "no" votes.

---

If the NC schools vote yes tomorrow then it will be announced as unanimous with whatever the revenue splits end up being. A show of unity even if only for show will look good for recruiting for all conference schools. Clemson and FSU will be able to show they got more dough and all the others can say the conference is staying intact.

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ACC insider here: the NC schools flipped. You're in with stanford. Just be aware what an awful mistake you've made. The acc has a contract with ESPN with a composition clause that allows ESPN to renegotiate payouts with schools, but not the acc to negotiate for more money. FSU and Clemson are going to slice the throat of the ACC sometime in the next year. ESPN will slash the payout to the bone after Clemson and FSU leave and the ACC will crumble if 8 schools find landing spots.


Also, prepare to get absolutely hosed on every single call in every single sport whenever you play a school from tobacco road. Pac 12 refs are like little children compared to the game rigging masters at work in the ACC.


That being said,
welcome aboard.

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We have battered wife syndrome - we wouldn't be in a conference unless it hosed us on calls or used us a whipping boy. Thanks for the welcome - I'm sure we will feel right at home.

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Exactly! Case file exhibit #1 Skov unpenalized hit on Goff: https://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=10025907 (someone has the video)

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Actually they called a penalty on Cal on that play.

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RedlessWardrobe said:

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If this were to really happen I could see 8 to 10 ESPN conference games hosted by us and the Furd in the 7pm local time slot. Be ready for just as much or even more night football.

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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RedlessWardrobe said:

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If this were to really happen I could see 8 to 10 ESPN conference games hosted by us and the Furd in the 7pm local time slot. Be ready for just as much or even more night football.

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this is not a bad thing as the posters frame it to be. Memorial stadium is absolutely electric for night games. There are plenty times where our team is no good but student show up in force.

Tell them its ESPN televised, and if our team is good? O gosh, skys the limit

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kal kommie said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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RedlessWardrobe said:

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If this were to really happen I could see 8 to 10 ESPN conference games hosted by us and the Furd in the 7pm local time slot. Be ready for just as much or even more night football.

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this is not a bad thing as the posters frame it to be. Memorial stadium is absolutely electric for night games. There are plenty times where our team is no good but student show up in force.

Tell them its ESPN televised, and if our team is good? O gosh, skys the limit

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One or two night Memorial games can be exciting in a year. Four or five is not welcome, especially those in November or December.

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ducky23 said:

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kal kommie said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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RedlessWardrobe said:

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If this were to really happen I could see 8 to 10 ESPN conference games hosted by us and the Furd in the 7pm local time slot. Be ready for just as much or even more night football.

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this is not a bad thing as the posters frame it to be. Memorial stadium is absolutely electric for night games. There are plenty times where our team is no good but student show up in force.

Tell them its ESPN televised, and if our team is good? O gosh, skys the limit

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One or two night Memorial games can be exciting in a year. Four or five is not welcome, especially those in November or December.

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Can we please just all agree to make it a rule that no one here is allowed to complain about night games IF we get into the ACC?

It's either night games or the end of cal football as we know it. Can we all just please be reasonable about this.

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UrsusTexicanus said:

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Although the game wasn't at CSM, remember how we set the standard for night games with the 2019 affair against Washington that ended at 2:15 AM?

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accprisoner said:

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91Cal said:

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sycasey said:

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ColoradoBear said:

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berserkeley said:

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JimSox said:

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Piratefan2102 said:

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Just saw that CollegeAD reported that the ACC Presidents are scheduled to meet tomorrow.

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Ok. Why tomorrow? Negotiations, if there are any, have been going on for weeks. Now we're approaching some kind of deadline I guess. By now everyone's final final position must be known. Either a vote is flipped or not. So get this endless process over. Yes or no. Get the Zoom going and vote right now. Sheesh!
(Okay rant over).

---

As has been stated in other threads by those more in the know, the ACC will not take a vote unless the answer is yes. If no, we will either wait forever or accept when its time to move on.

Those same in the know people on here suggested a few days ago that the vote would take place Tuesday. Why Tuesday? Probably because that was the time it would take to get the last details sorted out to convert the UNC/NCSU votes from a "no" to a "yes."

---

Is the rest of the ACC against giving Clemson/FSU extra money? Some number would make them flip I'd think. Guess it also depends on what ESPN will kick in.

---

The NC schools seem closer to yes, and you only need one of them to flip. So the focus would be on what gets their vote. Clemson and FSU are likely much harder "no" votes.

---

If the NC schools vote yes tomorrow then it will be announced as unanimous with whatever the revenue splits end up being. A show of unity even if only for show will look good for recruiting for all conference schools. Clemson and FSU will be able to show they got more dough and all the others can say the conference is staying intact.

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ACC insider here: the NC schools flipped. You're in with stanford. Just be aware what an awful mistake you've made. The acc has a contract with ESPN with a composition clause that allows ESPN to renegotiate payouts with schools, but not the acc to negotiate for more money. FSU and Clemson are going to slice the throat of the ACC sometime in the next year. ESPN will slash the payout to the bone after Clemson and FSU leave and the ACC will crumble if 8 schools find landing spots.


Also, prepare to get absolutely hosed on every single call in every single sport whenever you play a school from tobacco road. Pac 12 refs are like little children compared to the game rigging masters at work in the ACC.


That being said,
welcome aboard.

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ducky23 said:

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kal kommie said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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RedlessWardrobe said:

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If this were to really happen I could see 8 to 10 ESPN conference games hosted by us and the Furd in the 7pm local time slot. Be ready for just as much or even more night football.

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this is not a bad thing as the posters frame it to be. Memorial stadium is absolutely electric for night games. There are plenty times where our team is no good but student show up in force.

Tell them its ESPN televised, and if our team is good? O gosh, skys the limit

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One or two night Memorial games can be exciting in a year. Four or five is not welcome, especially those in November or December.

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Can we please just all agree to make it a rule that no one here is allowed to complain about night games IF we get into the ACC?

It's either night games or the end of cal football as we know it. Can we all just please be reasonable about this.

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calumnus said:

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JRL.02 said:

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Let's assume this happens… would Stanford and cal alternate being home each week to get ESPN a 10:30p game?

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I think the answer will be yes on alternating. 4 games at 7:30 is a real possibility, but 3:30 is possible and is actually really great.

One of the advantages of having more West Coast teams in our pod would be spreading the night games around.

Maybe the later in the season we host Florida State or Clemson in LA or San Diego?

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accprisoner said:

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91Cal said:

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sycasey said:

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ColoradoBear said:

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berserkeley said:

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JimSox said:

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Piratefan2102 said:

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Just saw that CollegeAD reported that the ACC Presidents are scheduled to meet tomorrow.

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Ok. Why tomorrow? Negotiations, if there are any, have been going on for weeks. Now we're approaching some kind of deadline I guess. By now everyone's final final position must be known. Either a vote is flipped or not. So get this endless process over. Yes or no. Get the Zoom going and vote right now. Sheesh!
(Okay rant over).

---

As has been stated in other threads by those more in the know, the ACC will not take a vote unless the answer is yes. If no, we will either wait forever or accept when its time to move on.

Those same in the know people on here suggested a few days ago that the vote would take place Tuesday. Why Tuesday? Probably because that was the time it would take to get the last details sorted out to convert the UNC/NCSU votes from a "no" to a "yes."

---

Is the rest of the ACC against giving Clemson/FSU extra money? Some number would make them flip I'd think. Guess it also depends on what ESPN will kick in.

---

The NC schools seem closer to yes, and you only need one of them to flip. So the focus would be on what gets their vote. Clemson and FSU are likely much harder "no" votes.

---

If the NC schools vote yes tomorrow then it will be announced as unanimous with whatever the revenue splits end up being. A show of unity even if only for show will look good for recruiting for all conference schools. Clemson and FSU will be able to show they got more dough and all the others can say the conference is staying intact.

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ACC insider here: the NC schools flipped. You're in with stanford. Just be aware what an awful mistake you've made. The acc has a contract with ESPN with a composition clause that allows ESPN to renegotiate payouts with schools, but not the acc to negotiate for more money. FSU and Clemson are going to slice the throat of the ACC sometime in the next year. ESPN will slash the payout to the bone after Clemson and FSU leave and the ACC will crumble if 8 schools find landing spots.


Also, prepare to get absolutely hosed on every single call in every single sport whenever you play a school from tobacco road. Pac 12 refs are like little children compared to the game rigging masters at work in the ACC.


That being said,
welcome aboard.

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