dajo9 said:
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Classic post.
dajo9 said:
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
bear2034 said:dajo9 said:
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Classic post.
dajo9 said:I've never starred bear2034 before but today is a new daybear2034 said:Classic post.dajo9 said:
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Explain, because I think I disagree. At first, I wanted to say that Bush screwed up Afghanistan when we invaded, but no, it was screwed up looooong before that.
If you're referring to the evacuation, no. We got it done. Evacuations are messy. Was it handled perfectly? No. Was that Biden's fault? No. Should we absolutely have gotten out of there? Probably.
Is Afghanistan actually screwed up? I dunno. By our standards, yes, but they need to be free to live their life.
oski003 said:Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Explain, because I think I disagree. At first, I wanted to say that Bush screwed up Afghanistan when we invaded, but no, it was screwed up looooong before that.
If you're referring to the evacuation, no. We got it done. Evacuations are messy. Was it handled perfectly? No. Was that Biden's fault? No. Should we absolutely have gotten out of there? Probably.
Is Afghanistan actually screwed up? I dunno. By our standards, yes, but they need to be free to live their life.
Biden is the commander in chief. The evacuation was handled poorly and was extremely messy. End of story.
movielover said:
You love war w Russia, eh? Along w record food inflation, unseen-before mass invasion, NATO crippled, streets out of a Mad Max movie, fentanyl scourge, cartel gangs running around unchallenged, and police in retreat. Ya. Even Liberals flee blue states. Sounds great.
Sorry, no..if you can't safely evacuate, then DON'T EVACUATE. Trump talked about getting it done, because the Democrats kept blocking him from getting out...remember the stupid "Muh Russias paying Taliban to kill Americans" BS story? Dems were literally cutting his funding to evacuate.Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Explain, because I think I disagree. At first, I wanted to say that Bush screwed up Afghanistan when we invaded, but no, it was screwed up looooong before that.
If you're referring to the evacuation, no. We got it done. Evacuations are messy. Was it handled perfectly? No. Was that Biden's fault? No. Should we absolutely have gotten out of there? Probably.
Is Afghanistan actually screwed up? I dunno. By our standards, yes, but they need to be free to live their life.
Biden is the commander in chief. The evacuation was handled poorly and was extremely messy. End of story.
Evacuation situations like that are inherently messy. Sure, it could've been handled better, but evacs are one of the most risky and difficult of military maneuvers. We got the job done. Trump talked about getting it done.
MinotStateBeav said:Sorry, no..if you can't safely evacuate, then DON'T EVACUATE. Trump talked about getting it done, because the Democrats kept blocking him from getting out...remember the stupid "Muh Russias paying Taliban to kill Americans" BS story? Dems were literally cutting his funding to evacuate.Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Explain, because I think I disagree. At first, I wanted to say that Bush screwed up Afghanistan when we invaded, but no, it was screwed up looooong before that.
If you're referring to the evacuation, no. We got it done. Evacuations are messy. Was it handled perfectly? No. Was that Biden's fault? No. Should we absolutely have gotten out of there? Probably.
Is Afghanistan actually screwed up? I dunno. By our standards, yes, but they need to be free to live their life.
Biden is the commander in chief. The evacuation was handled poorly and was extremely messy. End of story.
Evacuation situations like that are inherently messy. Sure, it could've been handled better, but evacs are one of the most risky and difficult of military maneuvers. We got the job done. Trump talked about getting it done.
MinotStateBeav said:Sorry, no..if you can't safely evacuate, then DON'T EVACUATE. Trump talked about getting it done, because the Democrats kept blocking him from getting out...remember the stupid "Muh Russias paying Taliban to kill Americans" BS story? Dems were literally cutting his funding to evacuate.Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Explain, because I think I disagree. At first, I wanted to say that Bush screwed up Afghanistan when we invaded, but no, it was screwed up looooong before that.
If you're referring to the evacuation, no. We got it done. Evacuations are messy. Was it handled perfectly? No. Was that Biden's fault? No. Should we absolutely have gotten out of there? Probably.
Is Afghanistan actually screwed up? I dunno. By our standards, yes, but they need to be free to live their life.
Biden is the commander in chief. The evacuation was handled poorly and was extremely messy. End of story.
Evacuation situations like that are inherently messy. Sure, it could've been handled better, but evacs are one of the most risky and difficult of military maneuvers. We got the job done. Trump talked about getting it done.
dajo9 said:DiabloWags said:
Cool Deflection.
"VP Trump"
"President Putin"
Even Minot said President Biden did "good enough". For Minot to say that about this President tells us all that he did a really good job.
MinotStateBeav said:Sorry, no..if you can't safely evacuate, then DON'T EVACUATE. Trump talked about getting it done, because the Democrats kept blocking him from getting out...remember the stupid "Muh Russias paying Taliban to kill Americans" BS story? Dems were literally cutting his funding to evacuate.Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Explain, because I think I disagree. At first, I wanted to say that Bush screwed up Afghanistan when we invaded, but no, it was screwed up looooong before that.
If you're referring to the evacuation, no. We got it done. Evacuations are messy. Was it handled perfectly? No. Was that Biden's fault? No. Should we absolutely have gotten out of there? Probably.
Is Afghanistan actually screwed up? I dunno. By our standards, yes, but they need to be free to live their life.
Biden is the commander in chief. The evacuation was handled poorly and was extremely messy. End of story.
Evacuation situations like that are inherently messy. Sure, it could've been handled better, but evacs are one of the most risky and difficult of military maneuvers. We got the job done. Trump talked about getting it done.
dajo9 said:You guys make Traitor Trump sound like the weakest President in American history. He's certainly the dumbest.MinotStateBeav said:Sorry, no..if you can't safely evacuate, then DON'T EVACUATE. Trump talked about getting it done, because the Democrats kept blocking him from getting out...remember the stupid "Muh Russias paying Taliban to kill Americans" BS story? Dems were literally cutting his funding to evacuate.Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:oski003 said:Big C said:dajo9 said:BearGoggles said:This is the entire story. The press covered for Biden as recently as last week ("deep fakes" claims for the charity event where Clooney has now confirmed Biden was out of it) and our country has already paid a steep price with Biden asleep at the wheel. All because they have convinced themselves that anything that might help trump must be avoided regardless of the resulting harm to the country.tequila4kapp said:
Chuck Todd and Politico's Jonathan Martin (formerly of CNN and NYT) discuss on Todd's podcast that Biden's deterioration was an open secret - the 'nonversation' - for years, that two years ago a Cabinet member discussed with Todd that Biden wasn't capable of running again.
Note that this was not reported at the time. They both shrug off any idea that the media was protecting Biden, instead saying Biden's access was so tightly managed it was like he was still running the campaign in his basement. They note he hasn't done a Sunday show in 3 years.
Martin surmises that Dem's didn't do anything about it because their constituents really like Biden and they wanted to avoid the next logical question if Biden was out: Are you for the Vice President? They didn't want to have to answer that question.
And Todd and his cohorts have no remorse. Had they reported on this case with 1% of the energy they directed toward trump, Biden would not be the current dem candidate and the country would have a better choice.
Who has been (and is) running the country? It is incredible to me we don't know, yet there still is no reporting on that critical issue.
Whoever is running the country right now should be President for four more years. The current regime has made America great again.
Disagree/Agree
Disagree because this has always been about next-four-years-Biden, not past-four-years-Biden.
Agree because Biden has done a pretty good job, this first term. The notions that Biden caused the inflation, or that Biden screwed up Afghanistan because it was a fairly messy evacuation... those are ridiculous. Biden is about as capable of finishing out his term as Reagan was his second term. Just probably have to give it to him slowly sometimes, like if it's outside of his 10:00 - 4:00 window!
Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
Explain, because I think I disagree. At first, I wanted to say that Bush screwed up Afghanistan when we invaded, but no, it was screwed up looooong before that.
If you're referring to the evacuation, no. We got it done. Evacuations are messy. Was it handled perfectly? No. Was that Biden's fault? No. Should we absolutely have gotten out of there? Probably.
Is Afghanistan actually screwed up? I dunno. By our standards, yes, but they need to be free to live their life.
Biden is the commander in chief. The evacuation was handled poorly and was extremely messy. End of story.
Evacuation situations like that are inherently messy. Sure, it could've been handled better, but evacs are one of the most risky and difficult of military maneuvers. We got the job done. Trump talked about getting it done.
Big C said:
Wow, CNN is totally turning on Biden tonight. Hard to find anybody on Anderson Cooper's panel that is making any effort to save him. This might be due to Trump's compelling "show" at the rally last Saturday.
These are strange times. I've never seen anything like this.
As the drumbeat gets louder, I think Biden, under pressure, is going to bow out next week.
But then what?!?
dajo9 said:Big C said:
Wow, CNN is totally turning on Biden tonight. Hard to find anybody on Anderson Cooper's panel that is making any effort to save him. This might be due to Trump's compelling "show" at the rally last Saturday.
These are strange times. I've never seen anything like this.
As the drumbeat gets louder, I think Biden, under pressure, is going to bow out next week.
But then what?!?
Then Republicans and their Supreme Court will make a legal disaster of the ballots. Trump will be locked into a victory. The corporate media will get 4 more years of ratings. The rich and powerful will get more tax breaks and deregulation. Women, lgtbq, and poc will get more of the boot.
Hearing now that the Lester Holt interview was so abysmal that Dems have restarted talk to remove Biden. The combativeness and further lack of cognitive acuity displays were yet another nail in the coffin. Even more donors withholding now
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) July 17, 2024
Don't worry, these people just got done thanking god Trump wasn't killed. That's how you know how intensely they believe he's a fascist.110 Days Til No Joe said:Do liberals not realize how batshit crazy they sound to everyone not in their cult!? https://t.co/qXDgNCFPDN
— Revolutionary Blackout Network🥋 (@SocialistMMA) July 17, 2024
Big C said:
Wow, CNN is totally turning on Biden tonight. Hard to find anybody on Anderson Cooper's panel that is making any effort to save him. This might be due to Trump's compelling "show" at the rally last Saturday.
These are strange times. I've never seen anything like this.
As the drumbeat gets louder, I think Biden, under pressure, is going to bow out next week.
But then what?!?
I’m headed to Michigan to discuss what’s at stake in this year’s election.
— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) July 17, 2024
BREAKING: Massive drama right now in WH, Kamala advisors straight up telling Biden advisors it’s time to pass the buck, exact words used, per WH official. This is the first direct, open confrontation at the senior level
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) July 18, 2024
My feeling is that the "Good candidates" likely might run away from this run (Newsome, Mich Gov, PA Gov) because having only 100 days to win the presidency is not ideal and Trumps assassination attempt is a difficult hurdle to overcome. Plus I think those names above wouldn't mind throwing Kamala Harris under the bus to clear the field in 28. The Dems also I don't think would risk splitting the black vote even more by skipping Kamala.Big C said:
CNN threw Biden even further under the bus this evening.
Over on PBS' RNC coverage, Jonathan Capehart went from full Biden support only last night to "well, if he is off the ticket, they need to promote Kamala Harris" tonight.
Near total disarray in less than three weeks. Pretty incredible. Never seen anything like it.
It makes the most sense to have Kamala Harris take over. She was already on the ticket and should have easier access to campaign funds. It makes more sense for Biden to endorse her upon dropping out. Maybe she consolidates the disaffected Biden voters and wins. If she doesn't, then you have an answer to the question of whether or not she should be nominated again and the field is clear for the up-and-comers in the next cycle.MinotStateBeav said:My feeling is that the "Good candidates" likely might run away from this run (Newsome, Mich Gov, PA Gov) because having only 100 days to win the presidency is not ideal and Trumps assassination attempt is a difficult hurdle to overcome. Plus I think those names above wouldn't mind throwing Kamala Harris under the bus to clear the field in 28. The Dems also I don't think would risk splitting the black vote even more by skipping Kamala.Big C said:
CNN threw Biden even further under the bus this evening.
Over on PBS' RNC coverage, Jonathan Capehart went from full Biden support only last night to "well, if he is off the ticket, they need to promote Kamala Harris" tonight.
Near total disarray in less than three weeks. Pretty incredible. Never seen anything like it.
MinotStateBeav said:My feeling is that the "Good candidates" likely might run away from this run (Newsome, Mich Gov, PA Gov) because having only 100 days to win the presidency is not ideal and Trumps assassination attempt is a difficult hurdle to overcome. Plus I think those names above wouldn't mind throwing Kamala Harris under the bus to clear the field in 28. The Dems also I don't think would risk splitting the black vote even more by skipping Kamala.Big C said:
CNN threw Biden even further under the bus this evening.
Over on PBS' RNC coverage, Jonathan Capehart went from full Biden support only last night to "well, if he is off the ticket, they need to promote Kamala Harris" tonight.
Near total disarray in less than three weeks. Pretty incredible. Never seen anything like it.
tequila4kapp said:
Here's the interesting twist...nobody is calling for him to resign right now. They aren't concerned about his ability to govern, just his ability to beat Trump and the possibility of down ballot damage for Senate/House candidates. Given that paradigm I do not blame Biden one bit for telling everyone to F-off.
bear2034 said:tequila4kapp said:
Here's the interesting twist...nobody is calling for him to resign right now. They aren't concerned about his ability to govern, just his ability to beat Trump and the possibility of down ballot damage for Senate/House candidates. Given that paradigm I do not blame Biden one bit for telling everyone to F-off.
If the Democrats are calling Biden to step down due to his current health, then we are in a national security crisis right now if Biden can't perform his duties as Command in Chief.
If the Democrats are calling Biden to step down because they don't see him beating Trump, then they are completely disregarding the democratic process and the primary election that was held earlier this year.
tequila4kapp said:bear2034 said:tequila4kapp said:
Here's the interesting twist...nobody is calling for him to resign right now. They aren't concerned about his ability to govern, just his ability to beat Trump and the possibility of down ballot damage for Senate/House candidates. Given that paradigm I do not blame Biden one bit for telling everyone to F-off.
If the Democrats are calling Biden to step down due to his current health, then we are in a national security crisis right now if Biden can't perform his duties as Command in Chief.
If the Democrats are calling Biden to step down because they don't see him beating Trump, then they are completely disregarding the democratic process and the primary election that was held earlier this year.
That's exactly Biden's point. I'm in the camp that questions if he's capable today, and that's my reason why he should drop. If people think he's capable but will lose…that's some serious unDemocratic BS, IMO. And the hypocrisy vis a vis threats to Democracy will be profound
Update: Axios reports that top D's are saying Biden will drop out as early as this weekend. Some suggestion the leverage is no money for his presidential library. Other reports indicate Harris aides are openly telling Biden aides (in the WH) that it is time for Biden to go.
It's certainly easiest for Kamala to take over because passing her over might trigger a civil war within the party, but Kamala will lose. She's personally unpopular to begin with and as Biden's VP she will be saddled with the public's negative view of both the direction of the country generally and the state of the economy in particular.sycasey said:It makes the most sense to have Kamala Harris take over. She was already on the ticket and should have easier access to campaign funds. It makes more sense for Biden to endorse her upon dropping out. Maybe she consolidates the disaffected Biden voters and wins. If she doesn't, then you have an answer to the question of whether or not she should be nominated again and the field is clear for the up-and-comers in the next cycle.MinotStateBeav said:My feeling is that the "Good candidates" likely might run away from this run (Newsome, Mich Gov, PA Gov) because having only 100 days to win the presidency is not ideal and Trumps assassination attempt is a difficult hurdle to overcome. Plus I think those names above wouldn't mind throwing Kamala Harris under the bus to clear the field in 28. The Dems also I don't think would risk splitting the black vote even more by skipping Kamala.Big C said:
CNN threw Biden even further under the bus this evening.
Over on PBS' RNC coverage, Jonathan Capehart went from full Biden support only last night to "well, if he is off the ticket, they need to promote Kamala Harris" tonight.
Near total disarray in less than three weeks. Pretty incredible. Never seen anything like it.