sycasey said:

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Political violence is terrible, but if anyone thinks it is confined to one side of the aisle . . . uh, no.

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Which is why it's so deplorable when a leader, whether a holder of political office or a media person with a bullhorn and a following, speaks in a way that draws such actions out.

Those are the persons I blame.

This video shows right before and after.
They were discussing gun violence.
Talk about ironic!!!

My prediction is that by this time next week, we will have moved on and the Charlie Kirk story will be forgotten (unless the killer is still on the loose.

He was killed at 11:10 a.m. PT.

It hasn't been 12 hours and it feels like a lifetime ago.

So when does the National Guard arrive in Utah?

Two tragic killings in a short timeframe. This may have legs.

movielover said:

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Two tragic killings in a short timeframe. This may have legs.

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Both tragic. One of them was an assassination.

concordtom said:

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So, I've warned that Trump has been waiting for a spark.
This could be a spark.

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Waiting for a spark? He was impeached twice, had his house raided, convicted multiple times, and almost assassinated you sparkling all-star from Concord.

Matt Dowd at MSNBC fired for stupid comments. More time for Maria Shriver.

No one watched anyways so they fired him for nothing.

Wow, a young husband and father was murdered and all you lefties are celebrating because he held different opinions than you. This is sick, twisted and intolerant.

Your inability to allow an opinion different than yours actually started a long time ago but has come to full flower in recent years.

The left is in denial over the significance of what just happened. Which speaks volumes.

— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) September 11, 2025

They are fully aware of what happened. They are celebrating.

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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The Tim Walz appointee and Paul Pelosi's secret lover were on the "right"?

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Yes. Definitely the Minnesota guy was.

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Just days before her assassination on June 14, 2025, Minnesota House Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman cast a controversial vote as the only Democrat in favor of repealing eligibility for undocumented adults to access MinnesotaCare, the state's subsidized health insurance program. This vote, which passed 6865, went against the progressive stance of her party, which had enacted the policy in 2023 under her leadership as House Speaker. Hortman expressed emotional distress after the vote, stating she feared people would lose health insurance and be hurt by the decision, but felt compelled to vote with Republicans to secure a budget agreement after negotiations failed. This decision sparked significant backlash from her party and constituents, who saw it as a betrayal of her long-standing progressive values. Some sources speculate this vote may have contributed to the politically motivated targeting of Hortman, though no definitive evidence links it directly to the motive of the suspect, Vance Boelter.[](https://internewscast.com/news/fallen-lawmakers-emotional-vote-was-one-of-her-final-acts-of-bravery/)[](https://www.hypefresh.com/melissa-hortmans-last-words-before-politically-charged-shooting/)[](https://www.minnpost.com/state-government/2025/06/her-mirthful-eyes-her-sharp-humor-colleagues-remember-melissa-hortman-assassinated-at-age-55/)

Specific details about Boelter's motive remain unclear, as authorities have not publicly disclosed a detailed motive beyond the political nature of the attacks. However, evidence suggests Boelter had "No Kings" flyers in his car and writings mentioning the victims' names and other lawmakers, potentially linking the attacks to anti-government or anti-establishment sentiments associated with the "No Kings" movement, which was noted in connection to protests against President Donald Trump. Boelter's background included serving on the same state workforce development board as Hoffman, though their personal connection, if any, is uncertain.


Please post whatever drivel you heard from your media source that convinced you this killer is from the right…

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GoOskie said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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He said it himself....

Praying... 🙏🙏🙏 pic.twitter.com/YCUqT7YKo6

— Dr DABSTER (@DabsterDr) September 10, 2025

I'm in shock.

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Why? This what you voted for.

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You're one sick SOB. You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm embarrassed for you.

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The hate and intolerance of the left is beyond the pale

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I realize it is useless to try and show you , after a comment like that, a mirror of what your party leader has brought forth, but I can't leave your statement unchecked for the passerby.

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I watched the video. Equating Kirk's assassination with this is only possible from decades of brainwashing from the left hate media machine.

GoOskie said:

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Looks like he took a rifle round to the neck area. Expect the administration to ramp up the police state and come after the 2A.

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All of your posts in this thread suggest that you are a terrible human being: you are slightly better than the thousands of hate filled liberals posting gleeful celebratory videos. You are considerably above the mother who mocked Erika Kirk online taunting that now she will raise her kids without a father. You are maybe better than the dem congress people booing and screeching during a moment of silence for him.


Go look for yourself. Your party is the side of hate and murder. It's not too late to realize the truth and change to the side of goodness.

You killed him because he never lost an argument against your ridiculous radical left ideas. Rather than realize he was right you killed him to keep your delusions going.

Post by Charles Adams
l often disagreed with Charlie Kirk. But I was a fan of his willingness to civilly engage people he disagreed with and his dedication to preparing for debate. I have spent many years vocally opposed to aspects of both the faux-theocratic Far Right and the Progressive hatemongers of the neo-racist Far Left. But the widespread embrace of violence in response to the false narrative that ideological disagreement constitutes violence that justifies a response of actual violence is something that mainstream liberalism has allowed to fester and metastasize and they must cease to tolerate the great many who push that anti-democratic evil that is cancerous to a free society.
Everyone gets a voice and an opinion in America.
Everyone is free to disagree. What is not okay is violence seeking to silence. And anyone that rationalizes or applauds that is a terrible person and those that do not realize they are terrible are surrounded by cowards masquerading as friends unwilling to tell them the truth.

Simply nice words from his good friend Vance:

A while ago, probably in 2017, I appeared on Tucker Carlson's Fox show to talk about God knows what. Afterwards a name I barely knew sent me a DM on twitter and told me I did a great job. It was Charlie Kirk, and that moment of kindness began a friendship that lasted until today.

Charlie was fascinated by ideas and always willing to learn and change his mind. Like me, he was skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016. Like me, he came to see President Trump as the only figure capable of moving American politics away from the globalism that had dominated for our entire lives. When others were right, he learned from them. When he was right--as he usually was--he was generous. With Charlie, the attitude was never, "I told you so." But: "welcome."

Charlie was one of the first people I called when I thought about running for senate in early 2021. I was interested but skeptical there was a pathway. We talked through everything, from the strategy to the fundraising to the grassroots of the movement he knew so well. He introduced me to some of the people who would run my campaign and also to Donald Trump Jr. "Like his dad, he's misunderstood. He's extremely smart, and very much on our wavelength." Don took a call from me because Charlie asked him too.

Long before I ever committed (even in my mind) to running, Charlie had me speak to his donors at a TPUSA event. He walked me around the room and introduced me. He gave me honest feedback on my remarks. He had no reason to do this, no expectation that I'd go anywhere. I was polling, at that point, well below 5 percent. He did it because we were friends, and because he was a good man.

When I became the VP nominee--something Charlie advocated for both in public and private--Charlie was there for me. I was so glad to be part of the president's team, but candidly surprised by the effect it had on our family. Our kids, especially our oldest, struggled with the attention and the constant presence of the protective detail. I felt this acute sense of guilt, that I had conscripted my kids into this life without getting their permission. And Charlie was constantly calling and texting, checking on our family and offering guidance and prayers. Some of our most successful events were organized not by the campaign, but by TPUSA. He wasn't just a thinker, he was a doer, turning big ideas into bigger events with thousands of activists. And after every event, he would give me a big hug, tell me he was praying for me, and ask me what he could do. "You focus on Wisconsin," he'd tell me. "Arizona is in the bag." And it was.

Charlie genuinely believed in and loved Jesus Christ. He had a profound faith. We used to argue about Catholicism and Protestantism and who was right about minor doctrinal questions. Because he loved God, he wanted to understand him.

Someone else pointed out that Charlie died doing what he loved: discussing ideas. He would go into these hostile crowds and answer their questions. If it was a friendly crowd, and a progressive asked a question to jeers from the audience, he'd encourage his fans to calm down and let everyone speak. He exemplified a foundational virtue of our Republic: the willingness to speak openly and debate ideas.

Charlie had an uncanny ability to know when to push the envelope and when to be more conventional. I've seen people attack him for years for being wrong on this or that issue publicly, never realizing that privately he was working to broaden the scope of acceptable debate.

He was a great family man. I was talking to President Trump in the Oval Office today, and he said, "I know he was a very good friend of yours." I nodded silently, and President Trump observed that Charlie really loved his family. The president was right. Charlie was so proud of Erika and the two kids. He was so happy to be a father. And he felt such gratitude for having found a woman of God with whom he could build a family.

Charlie Kirk was a true friend. The kind of guy you could say something to and know it would always stay with him. I am on more than a few group chats with Charlie and people he introduced me to over the years. We celebrate weddings and babies, bust each other's chops, and mourn the loss of loved ones. We talk about politics and policy and sports and life. These group chats include people at the very highest level of our government. They trusted him, loved him, and knew he'd always have their backs. And because he was a true friend ,you could instinctively trust the people Charlie introduced you to. So much of the success we've had in this administration traces directly to Charlie's ability to organize and convene. He didn't just help us win in 2024, he helped us staff the entire government.

I was in a meeting in the West Wing when those group chats started lighting up with people telling Charlie they were praying for him. And that's how I learned the news that my friend had been shot. I prayed a lot over the next hour, as first good news and then bad trickled in.

God didn't answer those prayers, and that's OK. He had other plans. And now that Charlie is in heaven, I'll ask him to talk to big man directly on behalf of his family, his friends, and the country he loved so dearly.

You ran a good race, my friend.

We've got it from here.

Well said

Dear Dems,

When we beat you at the ballot box, you tried to frame Trump with treason and overturn the election.

When we beat you in debate, you assassinated Charlie.

When things don’t go your way, you riot and resort to violence.

YOU are the threat to democracy…

Not us.

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) September 11, 2025

I think this guy makes a pretty good point.
SHORT:



Charlie Kirk said it's okay to have a few gun deaths, in order to preserve gun rights as a defense right, and everyone having guns therefore protects a whole host of other rights (meaning that a fascist government can't just trample the citizenry). And that's an interesting posit.

But it's also a contrast with Ghandi or MLK who advocated non-violent protest as a means to securing the rights of the citizenry.

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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The left is in denial over the significance of what just happened. Which speaks volumes.

— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) September 11, 2025

They are fully aware of what happened. They are celebrating.

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Cool that 1 guy can summarize how an entire faction thinks.

I'll say this - I am NOT celebrating!
I condemn this violence.

There. Now you can't say so.

It is horrible, because violence begets violence. I fear we will soon see that.
As I said last night, some left leaders and media members are feeling pretty nervous right about now.

NVBear78 said:

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Wow, a young husband and father was murdered and all you lefties are celebrating because he held different opinions than you. This is sick, twisted and intolerant.

Your inability to allow an opinion different than yours actually started a long time ago but has come to full flower in recent years.

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Where's this celebration you claim???

Invented?
A tool to drive your hatred???

I haven't read one person celebrating or cheering here. It's deplorable!!

Are you sure your anger hasn't simply been stirred up inside you by your FoxNews manipulators???

Nobody is cheering! Stop it!!

A friend wrote this to me.
I think it's a good point which hasn't yet been mentioned here:

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You know what this murder has me thinking? Why is this deplorable firebrand's murder getting 100x the coverage of the two Democratic politicians assassinated in MN this summer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

All of MAGA just completely sidestepped and ignored those assassinations and yet are demanding some kind of tribute now.

Kirk's murder should be condemned. We don't know why it happened yet or who did it, but it's fair to presume it was political in nature. I don't think it's fair at all to treat this in a vacuum and ignore recent political violence against non-MAGA but I'm going to guess that all the conservatives come out of the woodwork on BI and pretend that everything was going swimmingly until this one killing.

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Good point.
To the people who have posted in this thread that the left is the party of violence, think more broadly before commenting with pointing fingers.

HawaiiBear33 said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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The Tim Walz appointee and Paul Pelosi's secret lover were on the "right"?

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Yes. Definitely the Minnesota guy was.

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Please post whatever drivel you heard from your media source that convinced you this killer is from the right…

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I’m going to share this even though it’s abundantly clear that you do not actually care about the truth.https://t.co/1wdQFJuRax pic.twitter.com/BIQyIbpbCF

— Buc1080 🇺🇸 (@buc1080) September 11, 2025

Oh really? How so?https://t.co/VUQhVZA4z5 pic.twitter.com/AcuKO8Qa1t

— Disgusted American (@POdatWalmart) September 11, 2025

"Friends and former colleagues interviewed by AP described Boelter as a devout Christian who attended an evangelical church and went to campaign rallies for President Donald Trump."https://t.co/F0cvMXsrLf

— Candi McCann (@CandiMcCann) September 11, 2025

NVBear78 said:

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Wow, a young husband and father was murdered and all you lefties are celebrating because he held different opinions than you. This is sick, twisted and intolerant.

Your inability to allow an opinion different than yours actually started a long time ago but has come to full flower in recent years.

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Which person here is celebrating Charlie Kirk's death? Name them.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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So when does the National Guard arrive in Utah?

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This part

One again a prime example of conservative contradiction.

okaydo said:

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My prediction is that by this time next week, we will have moved on and the Charlie Kirk story will be forgotten (unless the killer is still on the loose.

He was killed at 11:10 a.m. PT.

It hasn't been 12 hours and it feels like a lifetime ago.

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True, It's a twitter influencer assassination. They'll keep it alive for a few days with great pronouncements of fear and loathing but most of the public doesn't even know who he is.

President Trump is the law and order president.

He has de-woke-ified and de-DEI-ified the FBI and the entire federal law enforcement apparatus to make them the best they could possibly be.

He has tapped one of the most-qualified FBI directors in Kash Patel.

If the best of the best of the best can find this guy, then you have to question why the best of the best can find this guy.