Also gonna put this out there, which might point in the other direction. (Though "anonymous person who claimed to know him years ago" is not a great source.)

BREAKING: A friend of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old accused of killing Charlie Kirk, confirms to The Guardian that he was a "leftist"

The friend says he was left-wing on all issues and he became extreme on politics

He was the only left-winger in the family pic.twitter.com/j0PhSn8azR

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 12, 2025

Could be my original assumption was correct, that he had weird and confused politics that went in different directions.

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Wow, a young husband and father was murdered and all you lefties (Edit Correction- should have stated SOME and not all) are celebrating because he held different opinions than you. This is sick, twisted and intolerant.

Your inability to allow an opinion different than yours actually started a long time ago but has come to full flower in recent years.

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Stephen A Smith comments on those celebrating the assassination of a young father:

Stephen A. Smith Goes Off on 'People Celebrating' Charlie Kirk's Death: 'Shame on You!'

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Sharp guy; better choice for the WH than slimy Gavin Newsom? Are we ready for a bachelor POTUS from ESPN?

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DiabloWags said:

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School shootings happen almost every month in this country.

Where is the moment of silence for the parents of these kids who die because we have a love affair with guns in this country?

Charlie Kirk's death is being "promoted" by the Administration because he had a following that voted for Trump.
Let's be honest about this.

Kirk wasn't Martin Luther King.
Or Nelson Mandela.

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Pointing that out is what got the MSNBC guy fired.

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I heard it was more about Matthew Dowd criticizing Kirk for his hate speech.

Dowd said Kirk has been "one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions."

"I think that's the environment we're in, that the people just you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have, and then saying these awful words, and not expect awful actions to take place. And that's the unfortunate environment we're in," he added.

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I just meant, you pointed out that Kirk was not some great guy like Mandela or King, and the MSNBC guy gave reason for his getting shot - not a great guy but angering with his political debating.

And apparently it's too soon to let anyone know what we all can figure out.

I mean, Kirk has pisses me off when I've heard him speak.
But then again, I probably piss others off just the same.

Big C, Okaydo…. They never piss anyone off, right?


Thank you for providing the exact quote!!! Thumbs up to that. Better than my generalized summary

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This discussion is inane. What difference does it make what Kirk said or what views he held? Even if it was "hate speech", racist, or misogynistic (all subjective opinions), it doesn't justify his killing. NOTHING he said has any bearing on the violence he was subjected to. The entire discussion implies he had it coming or that somehow we all should not be outraged that this happened (or less outraged) because Kirk was a "bad guy." NOTHING he said justifies his assassination or a lesser reaction to it.

And I would point out that many political figures on the left say racist, hateful, bigoted, and/or other outrageous things that are well outside the Overton window. Rashida Tlaib and Ilan Omar come to mind for saying some objectively antisemitic things. Biden said some crazy things. None of that has any bearing on whether they should be assassinated (which of course they should not).

If god forbid, one of them - or another popular dem figure like Obama - was assassinated, would you be discussing the merits of their statements and political positions? Would the liberals on this board think that had any relevance to the crime? I highly doubt it.

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Who are you arguing with? No one here thinks the killing was justified.

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I'm arguing with everyone who wants to discuss Kirk's views in the context of his assassination, as many have done in this thread. It is the equivalent of discussing what a rape victim was wearing. Both irrelevant and disgusting.

Latest example is here.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/128982/replies/2542836

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Well, given what we're learning about the killer, it seems like he probably shot Charlie Kirk for not being right-wing ENOUGH. So it might be time for everyone to update their priors.

Elon Musk's Grok AI identifies Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, as a "Groyper" from "the toxic underbelly of the MAGA ecosystem". pic.twitter.com/uiM48d2884

— I was warning about this back in 2005. (@brucewilson) September 12, 2025

I've seen some Millennials saying that Bella Ciao being on the casing means that the 22-yr old shooter was a leftist.

Here is a remix of Bella Ciao on the "Groyper War" America First playlist. Groyper War refers to their targeting of CHARLIE KIRK. pic.twitter.com/TDIXuvl5cj

— Mike from PA (@Mike_from_PA) September 12, 2025

GROYPERS are NOT beating the charges.

Anything can happen. So, I'll hedge a bit longer.

But Tyler Robinson is looking more and more like a far-right Groyper

This and the homophobic inscription "if you read this you're gay"

The call is coming from inside the house pic.twitter.com/e3hl2CdE7a

— Pastor Ben (@BenjaminPDixon) September 12, 2025

Also, Matthew Dowd looks like he was absolutely correct about the cause of this incident and should probably be reinstated by MSNBC.

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Admittedly, my thoughts take form inside the bubble that is the East Bay, but some young white man killed Charlie Kirk because he wasn't far enough to the right?!? Does. Not. Compute.

I mean, did anyone ever consider bumping off Karl Marx because he wasn't enough of a Commie?

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The Russian Revolution would love to have a word.

Let me guess... virgin gamer pot-smoking Leftist?

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Did Karma catch up to the Ukranian girl stabbed in the neck on the subway?

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I understand StalkerWags obsession w race and white guilt better now. I never knew Walnut Creek had a Klan history, even up through the 70s when he was in high school.

AI: "Historical context (Sundown Town): In the mid-20th century, Walnut Creek was known as a "sundown town," a community where Black people were not allowed to be present after dark."

Explains why he didn't have Black friends until Cal in his 20s.

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"not allowed;"

That is a nice way of saying that if a Black was in town after dark they would be lynched. lets not sugar coat what the threat was.

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Also gonna put this out there, which might point in the other direction. (Though "anonymous person who claimed to know him years ago" is not a great source.)

BREAKING: A friend of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old accused of killing Charlie Kirk, confirms to The Guardian that he was a "leftist"

The friend says he was left-wing on all issues and he became extreme on politics

He was the only left-winger in the family pic.twitter.com/j0PhSn8azR

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 12, 2025

Could be my original assumption was correct, that he had weird and confused politics that went in different directions.

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reminds me of tom

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Antifa and Hamas are somewhat similar. The left pretend like they don't exist.

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Why does our FBI refuse to shut down Antifa (like BLM), or are they a wing of the Democrat party?

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The irony is the shooter thought Charlie Kirk was a fascist. But Kirk supported free markets. Fascism is state control of private enterprise through regulation and taxation, a system the far left actually embraces. By definition, the shooter’s own politics were closer to fascism.

— Peter Schiff (@PeterSchiff) September 12, 2025

I don't know. But we do know is the Antifascists are the fascists.

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Did Karma catch up to the Ukranian girl stabbed in the neck on the subway?

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I understand StalkerWags obsession w race and white guilt better now. I never knew Walnut Creek had a Klan history, even up through the 70s when he was in high school.

AI: "Historical context (Sundown Town): In the mid-20th century, Walnut Creek was known as a "sundown town," a community where Black people were not allowed to be present after dark."

Explains why he didn't have Black friends until Cal in his 20s.

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"not allowed;"

That is a nice way of saying that if a Black was in town after dark they would be lynched. lets not sugar coat what the threat was.

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False. No recorded lynching in Walnut Creek.

Charlie Kirk's Assassination Should Herald The End Of The American Left

"Back in April, Charlie Kirk posted on X about how assassination culture is spreading on the left. He cited a recent survey that found 48 percent of liberals think it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk, and 55 percent think the same of President Trump.

"The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy. Any setback, whether losing an election or losing a court case, justifies a maximally violent response," Kirk said. "This is the natural outgrowth of left-wing protest culture tolerating violence and mayhem for years on end. The cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials have turned the left into a ticking time bomb."

https://thefederalist.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirks-assassination-should-herald-the-end-of-the-american-left/

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Did Karma catch up to the Ukranian girl stabbed in the neck on the subway?

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I don't know.

Was she a racist?
Was she a Groyper?

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She was on her way home after working at a pizza parlor.

I have no idea how the Left has been radicalized into thinking we are all fascist Nazis.

It’s a mystery. pic.twitter.com/lW59NR6Ssk

— C3 (@C_3C_3) September 12, 2025

It was the threat. I can flat out tell you from direct family histoty that is what it means.

.@POTUS: "We're going to look into Soros because I think it's a RICO case against him and other people because this is more than protests. This is real agitation; this is riots on the street — and we're going to look into that." pic.twitter.com/zwUr03G5DA

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) September 12, 2025

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Admittedly, my thoughts take form inside the bubble that is the East Bay, but some young white man killed Charlie Kirk because he wasn't far enough to the right?!? Does. Not. Compute.

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Groyper was led by people like Nick Fuentes.
They bashed Charlie Kirk for being a SELLOUT and a FAKE CONSERVATIVE.

Look it up.

Have to laugh at all the pearl clutch over a groyper shooting a genocide denier, stochastic terrorist, and seditionist for not being anti-Jewish enough.

His father turned him in, after consulting with his pastor, knowing the president and the state governor are calling for the death penalty. Father is in law enforcement. Mother is a social worker. Military history family. Registered Republican parents. Action oriented DNA. See a… pic.twitter.com/ZtWQ12hlI1

— Donnie Cope (@dcopechatter) September 12, 2025

"College was enough to radicalize his son."

Did college radicalize Bearinsiders too?

One thing I find very unlikely is that a single semester at Utah State University was enough to radicalize an otherwise normal kid.

Wait a second
The governor prayed for what !!!!! Are we serious yikes Amerikkka is racist asf

Being racist is a mental illness

- FIRED CASING: "Notices Bulges OWO What is this?"
- UNFIRED CASING 1: "Hey fascist, catch! [3 down arrow symbols]"
- UNFIRED CASING 2: "O Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao Ciao Ciao" (a reference to an Italian anti-fascist song)
-UNFIRED CASING 3: "If you read this, you are gay lmao"

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Did Karma catch up to the Ukranian girl stabbed in the neck on the subway?

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I understand StalkerWags obsession w race and white guilt better now. I never knew Walnut Creek had a Klan history, even up through the 70s when he was in high school.

AI: "Historical context (Sundown Town): In the mid-20th century, Walnut Creek was known as a "sundown town," a community where Black people were not allowed to be present after dark."

Explains why he didn't have Black friends until Cal in his 20s.

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Another COOL story.

YOURE WRONG AGAIN AS USUAL.

As usual, you continue to spew gibberish here 24/7.
Maybe you should get a job and do something useful with your life instead of just making stuff up.

Here, let me help EDUCATE YOU ONCE AGAIN.

WALNUT CREEK is not on James Loewen's list of Sundown towns:

California Archives - History and Social Justice

Sundown Towns by State - History and Social Justice

James W. Loewen - Wikipedia

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One thing I find very unlikely is that a single semester at Utah State University was enough to radicalize an otherwise normal kid.

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Maybe it was a single summer of listening to Kamala?

You, madam, have blood on your hands. pic.twitter.com/mbGNvmHVJ8

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) September 12, 2025

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Charlie Kirk's Assassination Should Herald The End Of The American Left

"Back in April, Charlie Kirk posted on X about how assassination culture is spreading on the left. He cited a recent survey that found 48 percent of liberals think it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk, and 55 percent think the same of President Trump.

"The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy. Any setback, whether losing an election or losing a court case, justifies a maximally violent response," Kirk said. "This is the natural outgrowth of left-wing protest culture tolerating violence and mayhem for years on end. The cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials have turned the left into a ticking time bomb."

https://thefederalist.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirks-assassination-should-herald-the-end-of-the-american-left/

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Can you provide a list of the American Far Left influencers?

Here is a list of Far Right influencers:

Nick Fuentes: A white nationalist and political commentator known for leading the "Groyper" movement. He has been banned from several platforms, but his content continues to circulate online.

Chaya Raichik: The person behind the "Libs of TikTok" social media account, which aggregates and reposts content, often targeting LGBTQ+ people and progressive causes.

Laura Loomer: A far-right conspiracy theorist and activist who has frequently promoted misinformation.

Jack Posobiec: A far-right political activist and conspiracy promoter.

Jackson Hinkle: An online influencer whose engagement spiked after Hamas's attack on Israel, promoting virulent anti-Zionism and conspiracy theories.

Milo Yiannopoulos: A far-right and alt-right commentator.

Tommy Robinson: A far-right activist in the UK.

Candace Owens: A conservative commentator and author who has been associated with far-right views.

Matt Walsh: A podcast host and commentator for The Daily Wire known for his strong conservative stance on cultural and social issues.

Ben Shapiro: A co-founder of The Daily Wire, he hosts one of the most popular conservative podcasts and is seen as an influential figure within the conservative movement.

Michael Knowles: Another Daily Wire personality and podcast host who engages with politics from a conservative perspective.

Steve Bannon: A prominent figure in the far-right media landscape and a former White House chief strategist under Donald Trump.

Russ Vought: A far-right ideologue involved with the Project 2025 initiative.

Lance Wallnau: A Christian nationalist leader and influential figure in a movement seeking to dismantle the separation of church and state.

Richard Spencer: A neo-Nazi and white nationalist who has been a central figure in the alt-right movement.

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Admittedly, my thoughts take form inside the bubble that is the East Bay, but some young white man killed Charlie Kirk because he wasn't far enough to the right?!? Does. Not. Compute.

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Groyper was led by people like Nick Fuentes.
They bashed Charlie Kirk for being a SELLOUT and a FAKE CONSERVATIVE.

Look it up.

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Multiple people are suggesting I look up "Groyper"...

Not gonna happen. Ignorance is bliss. Some stuff I would prefer to be ignorant on. Plus, I already showered today.

Can you provide a list of SUNDOWN towns in the San Francisco East Bay?

WALNUT CREEK ISN'T ONE OF THEM.

But Movieloser claims it is.

Sundown Towns by State - History and Social Justice

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His father turned him in, after consulting with his pastor, knowing the president and the state governor are calling for the death penalty. Father is in law enforcement. Mother is a social worker. Military history family. Registered Republican parents. Action oriented DNA. See a… pic.twitter.com/ZtWQ12hlI1

— Donnie Cope (@dcopechatter) September 12, 2025

"College was enough to radicalize his son."

Did college radicalize Bearinsiders too?

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Mom is a social worker that knows her way around an M249 light machine gun.

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School shootings happen almost every month in this country.

Where is the moment of silence for the parents of these kids who die because we have a love affair with guns in this country?

Charlie Kirk's death is being "promoted" by the Administration because he had a following that voted for Trump.
Let's be honest about this.

Kirk wasn't Martin Luther King.
Or Nelson Mandela.

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Pointing that out is what got the MSNBC guy fired.

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I heard it was more about Matthew Dowd criticizing Kirk for his hate speech.

Dowd said Kirk has been "one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions."

"I think that's the environment we're in, that the people just you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have, and then saying these awful words, and not expect awful actions to take place. And that's the unfortunate environment we're in," he added.

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I just meant, you pointed out that Kirk was not some great guy like Mandela or King, and the MSNBC guy gave reason for his getting shot - not a great guy but angering with his political debating.

And apparently it's too soon to let anyone know what we all can figure out.

I mean, Kirk has pisses me off when I've heard him speak.
But then again, I probably piss others off just the same.

Big C, Okaydo…. They never piss anyone off, right?


Thank you for providing the exact quote!!! Thumbs up to that. Better than my generalized summary

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This discussion is inane. What difference does it make what Kirk said or what views he held? Even if it was "hate speech", racist, or misogynistic (all subjective opinions), it doesn't justify his killing. NOTHING he said has any bearing on the violence he was subjected to. The entire discussion implies he had it coming or that somehow we all should not be outraged that this happened (or less outraged) because Kirk was a "bad guy." NOTHING he said justifies his assassination or a lesser reaction to it.

And I would point out that many political figures on the left say racist, hateful, bigoted, and/or other outrageous things that are well outside the Overton window. Rashida Tlaib and Ilan Omar come to mind for saying some objectively antisemitic things. Biden said some crazy things. None of that has any bearing on whether they should be assassinated (which of course they should not).

If god forbid, one of them - or another popular dem figure like Obama - was assassinated, would you be discussing the merits of their statements and political positions? Would the liberals on this board think that had any relevance to the crime? I highly doubt it.

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Who are you arguing with? No one here thinks the killing was justified.

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I'm arguing with everyone who wants to discuss Kirk's views in the context of his assassination, as many have done in this thread. It is the equivalent of discussing what a rape victim was wearing. Both irrelevant and disgusting.

Latest example is here.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/128982/replies/2542836

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Well, given what we're learning about the killer, it seems like he probably shot Charlie Kirk for not being right-wing ENOUGH. So it might be time for everyone to update their priors.

Elon Musk's Grok AI identifies Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, as a "Groyper" from "the toxic underbelly of the MAGA ecosystem". pic.twitter.com/uiM48d2884

— I was warning about this back in 2005. (@brucewilson) September 12, 2025

I've seen some Millennials saying that Bella Ciao being on the casing means that the 22-yr old shooter was a leftist.

Here is a remix of Bella Ciao on the "Groyper War" America First playlist. Groyper War refers to their targeting of CHARLIE KIRK. pic.twitter.com/TDIXuvl5cj

— Mike from PA (@Mike_from_PA) September 12, 2025

GROYPERS are NOT beating the charges.

Anything can happen. So, I'll hedge a bit longer.

But Tyler Robinson is looking more and more like a far-right Groyper

This and the homophobic inscription "if you read this you're gay"

The call is coming from inside the house pic.twitter.com/e3hl2CdE7a

— Pastor Ben (@BenjaminPDixon) September 12, 2025

Also, Matthew Dowd looks like he was absolutely correct about the cause of this incident and should probably be reinstated by MSNBC.

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Admittedly, my thoughts take form inside the bubble that is the East Bay, but some young white man killed Charlie Kirk because he wasn't far enough to the right?!? Does. Not. Compute.

I mean, did anyone ever consider bumping off Karl Marx because he wasn't enough of a Commie?

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The Russian Revolution would love to have a word.

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Marx, of course, lived pre-Russian Revolution, but I get your point, with the competing ideological factions. Could be China in the '60s, too.

Note for the future though: my puerile humor resists higher analysis.

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Can you provide a list of the American Far Left influencers?

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Most in the corporate media, entertainment industry, university professors, and school teachers?

I think you will end up being wrong about this. This one is gonna stick for awhile. There's a large population of soon to be voters and another large population of voters who just reached voting age that are truly impacted by this event. I've heard some middle schoolers call it their generations 9/11 in the sense that they will remember where they were when they heard the news

Uh… I wasn't replying to that at all. Haven't made a single mention about the event you're connecting my comment to

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Did Karma catch up to the Ukranian girl stabbed in the neck on the subway?

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I understand StalkerWags obsession w race and white guilt better now. I never knew Walnut Creek had a Klan history, even up through the 70s when he was in high school.

AI: "Historical context (Sundown Town): In the mid-20th century, Walnut Creek was known as a "sundown town," a community where Black people were not allowed to be present after dark."

Explains why he didn't have Black friends until Cal in his 20s.

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"not allowed;"

That is a nice way of saying that if a Black was in town after dark they would be lynched. lets not sugar coat what the threat was.

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False. No recorded lynching in Walnut Creek.

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YOURE ENTIRE POST IS FALSE.

WALNUT CREEK WAS NEVER A "SUNSET" TOWN.

DUH.

Sundown Towns by State - History and Social Justice

Yall can't read. I was replying about the Charlie Kirk shooter…

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Yall can't read. I was replying about the Charlie Kirk shooter…

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Have no idea what you're talking about.
You need to improve your reading comprehension.

I was clearly replying to Movieloser and his Troll post about WALNUT CREEK being a Sunset town.
Not you.

So you're now actually saying the quiet part out loud. You're admitting that if she was a racist, she deserves to die. What a dark heart you have. I'll pray for you

I haven't followed CK previously, but you take his comments out of context, a common ploy.

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Here's Kirk, in his own words. Many of his comments were documented by [utterly biased] Media Matters for America...

On Islam

Response: Islam as practiced by different groups, regions, countries and sects vary widely, like Gazans and Pakistanis.

Alleged Charlie Kirk statement: "America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America."

- Sharia Law is in direct conflict w Western law
- Sharia Law allows bigamy, taking slaves, lying to the Infidels, etc
- Many Muslims practice bigamy, pederasty, child marriage, cousin marriage, and Sharia Law
- Pakistani Muslims allegedly represent over 30% of child birth defects in the UK (1st cousin marriage), which burdens the health care system and lowers average IQ
- R*pe has become a common occurrence with newer immigrant groups as drivers: AI Overview: In one year thete were 1100 sexual assaults by drivers in London: "The report mentions some offenders being from Algerian, Turkish, or Pakistani backgrounds, among others."
- Various reports estimate 250K to one million CHILD VICTIMS of gang r*pe, torture, and pimping in the UK since 2000

Ergo, Charlie Kirk said: " And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization."

On another post, I noted an interview with a young man who said he would lose his "honor" if his wife worked outside the home. If she insisted, he said he "would stone her" to reclaim his honor.

CK: "Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America."

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Dr. Gad Saad of Canada, Jewish Lebanese, speaks four or five languages. He states that before he became famous, Muslims would tell him in their native tongue "The West is a woman to be ravaged" [he sanitized the language]

Sweden went from Nirvana to a leading r*pe Capitol in the world, rivaling South Africa. Many of these are gang r*pes.

Germany had 1100 sexual assaults one New Year's Eve by Middle Eastern and North African men.

After Germany admitted Muslim immigrants, they now gave two gang r*pes a day.