Would NBC's package also include the primary streaming rights on Peacock?philbert said:CBS is expected to pay $350M/year for their time slot. NBC will be buying their time slot. Then there is Amazon/Apple paying for streaming. And don't forget that Fox is driving the whole thing because they will pay the most for Tier 1 rights.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
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sosheezy said:Would NBC's package also include the primary streaming rights on Peacock?philbert said:CBS is expected to pay $350M/year for their time slot. NBC will be buying their time slot. Then there is Amazon/Apple paying for streaming. And don't forget that Fox is driving the whole thing because they will pay the most for Tier 1 rights.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
I'm curious about the streaming piece, which I'm told is not fully set. Big Ten has met with Apple and Amazon, but NBC has Peacock already as part of its service. Does the Big Ten just set aside a certain # of games to stream exclusively on Peacock? More: https://t.co/4Af8cNszlC
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Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. CBS is reportedly paying $350 million per year for what is at best the 2nd tier B1G game of the week. That's more than $20 million per school for that one time slot. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
got it - thanks for sharing all of that. Crazy the numbers to host 1 game per week!
I'm told NBC's Big Ten number will be in the same $350M neighborhood as CBS. https://t.co/AJUIISdz2B
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Yes. this proves that they might get EVEN MORE than $100 M a school.
Also means that we can end this thread early. If they get into an agreement, there won't be any further realignment for the next 3 to 5 years. They will have a clause in there if ND moves and that could trigger things
I was hoping the B1G can leverage this round of negotiation, add OU, UW, Stanford and US and raise the #s by say 200 M and give us a reduced payout. But if they are finalizing negotiation then none of us are in the picture and we won't talk about this again until 5 to 7 years later when it's time to re-negotiate.
Also means that we can end this thread early. If they get into an agreement, there won't be any further realignment for the next 3 to 5 years. They will have a clause in there if ND moves and that could trigger things
I was hoping the B1G can leverage this round of negotiation, add OU, UW, Stanford and US and raise the #s by say 200 M and give us a reduced payout. But if they are finalizing negotiation then none of us are in the picture and we won't talk about this again until 5 to 7 years later when it's time to re-negotiate.
So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
The initial report from Action Network and then Dennis Dodd that the B1G was going to finalize and sign its media rights deals first and only after that was completed would they consider inviting Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington. The B1G would then negotiate a higher figure for those 4 teams and have those 4 teams split that revenue. And the timeline they predicted for the B1G to announce the media rights deal. Aug 15th.Arcadiabear said:
Yes. this proves that they might get EVEN MORE than $100 M a school.
Also means that we can end this thread early. If they get into an agreement, there won't be any further realignment for the next 3 to 5 years. They will have a clause in there if ND moves and that could trigger things
I was hoping the B1G can leverage this round of negotiation, add OU, UW, Stanford and US and raise the #s by say 200 M and give us a reduced payout. But if they are finalizing negotiation then none of us are in the picture and we won't talk about this again until 5 to 7 years later when it's time to re-negotiate.
From The Athletic...Arcadiabear said:
Yes. this proves that they might get EVEN MORE than $100 M a school.
Also means that we can end this thread early. If they get into an agreement, there won't be any further realignment for the next 3 to 5 years. They will have a clause in there if ND moves and that could trigger things
I was hoping the B1G can leverage this round of negotiation, add OU, UW, Stanford and US and raise the #s by say 200 M and give us a reduced payout. But if they are finalizing negotiation then none of us are in the picture and we won't talk about this again until 5 to 7 years later when it's time to re-negotiate.
"Multiple people involved in the process….expect the league's contracts to include triggers that would either allow for renegotiation in the event of conference membership addition or incrementally and automatically adjust the payouts in such an event."
“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Thanks for that, automatically adjust the payout sounds incredible. That could be a sly way for Big 10 to lean into their leverage and negotiate it and say....they get $50 or $75M per additional school, and then just offer that straight to the new schools. Many would jump in a heartbeatBigDaddy said:From The Athletic...Arcadiabear said:
Yes. this proves that they might get EVEN MORE than $100 M a school.
Also means that we can end this thread early. If they get into an agreement, there won't be any further realignment for the next 3 to 5 years. They will have a clause in there if ND moves and that could trigger things
I was hoping the B1G can leverage this round of negotiation, add OU, UW, Stanford and US and raise the #s by say 200 M and give us a reduced payout. But if they are finalizing negotiation then none of us are in the picture and we won't talk about this again until 5 to 7 years later when it's time to re-negotiate.
"Multiple people involved in the process….expect the league's contracts to include triggers that would either allow for renegotiation in the event of conference membership addition or incrementally and automatically adjust the payouts in such an event."
Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
Well, most of the NFL games are only regional. Only 4 per week are national. These would all be national I guess.GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
Becomes the new floor for the NFL.GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
Arcadiabear said:Thanks for that, automatically adjust the payout sounds incredible. That could be a sly way for Big 10 to lean into their leverage and negotiate it and say....they get $50 or $75M per additional school, and then just offer that straight to the new schools. Many would jump in a heartbeatBigDaddy said:From The Athletic...Arcadiabear said:
Yes. this proves that they might get EVEN MORE than $100 M a school.
Also means that we can end this thread early. If they get into an agreement, there won't be any further realignment for the next 3 to 5 years. They will have a clause in there if ND moves and that could trigger things
I was hoping the B1G can leverage this round of negotiation, add OU, UW, Stanford and US and raise the #s by say 200 M and give us a reduced payout. But if they are finalizing negotiation then none of us are in the picture and we won't talk about this again until 5 to 7 years later when it's time to re-negotiate.
"Multiple people involved in the process….expect the league's contracts to include triggers that would either allow for renegotiation in the event of conference membership addition or incrementally and automatically adjust the payouts in such an event."
Adding more West Coast schools also gives them more EXCLUSIVE time slots for national broadcasts of inter regional games to sell. The increased value might be pretty high.
Also from the Athletic with link below:
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
Rushinbear said:Becomes the new floor for the NFL.GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
Sure, but they've got ten years left on their deals, I believe.
Oski87 said:Well, most of the NFL games are only regional. Only 4 per week are national. These would all be national I guess.GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
I thought about this and went and checked the article. It's not clear to me, as written, if the rumored deals are ONLY for those 3 exclusive windows or if it includes other games in other windows (or online). At the very least Peacock's games read as if they are included:
"As part of the deal terms, CBS is expected to carry a football game in the 3:30pm ET window on Saturdays, and NBC would carry one in primetime. NBC's Peacock streaming service will carry an undetermined number of games per year exclusively. Peacock also will simulcast the games that air on NBC. "
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/08/09/Media/ESPN-Big-Ten-TV-rights.aspx
The NFL can break that contract.GMP said:Rushinbear said:Becomes the new floor for the NFL.GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
Sure, but they've got ten years left on their deals, I believe.
Lol. This website is free.Rushinbear said:The NFL can break that contract.GMP said:Rushinbear said:Becomes the new floor for the NFL.GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
Sure, but they've got ten years left on their deals, I believe.
GMP said:Oski87 said:Well, most of the NFL games are only regional. Only 4 per week are national. These would all be national I guess.GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
I thought about this and went and checked the article. It's not clear to me, as written, if the rumored deals are ONLY for those 3 exclusive windows or if it includes other games in other windows (or online). At the very least Peacock's games read as if they are included:
"As part of the deal terms, CBS is expected to carry a football game in the 3:30pm ET window on Saturdays, and NBC would carry one in primetime. NBC's Peacock streaming service will carry an undetermined number of games per year exclusively. Peacock also will simulcast the games that air on NBC. "
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/08/09/Media/ESPN-Big-Ten-TV-rights.aspx
If the streams go to Peacock, then what games are going to be on the B1G network that Fox is the majority of?
GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
But you're comparing the average NFL game to the best B1G game. If the B1G does in fact make $100M/school and we assume 100% of that money comes from regular season football games (it doesn't), the B1G will make $16.5M per game ($1.6B / 97 games - 1 conference championship, 72 conference games, 24 OOC games - which is probably low). And when you remove the bowl game/playoff money plus money from other media rights (like men's basketball), that number is probably below $15M for the average game. Still crazy, but remember, that $37.8M/game for the NFL includes Jaguars vs Jets.
berserkeley said:GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
But you're comparing the average NFL game to the best B1G game. If the B1G does in fact make $100M/school and we assume 100% of that money comes from regular season football games (it doesn't), the B1G will make $16.5M per game ($1.6B / 97 games - 1 conference championship, 72 conference games, 24 OOC games - which is probably low). And when you remove the bowl game/playoff money plus money from other media rights (like men's basketball), that number is probably below $15M for the average game. Still crazy, but remember, that $37.8M/game for the NFL includes Jaguars vs Jets.
The Big10 money includes Rutgers at Indiana
Which is why the B1G makes about 40% of what the NFL makes per gamedimitrig said:berserkeley said:GMP said:Oski87 said:Right - that's what I was thinking. Similar to the NFL. Everyone is saying ND will not be able to get Big 10 money. But with their 7 games - are they not worth as much as Minnesota or Wisconsin? 75 million for 7 games seems like not too much now. Actually undervalued when surrounded by the Big 10 game. I doubt they go to the Big 10.GMP said:Oski87 said:So top 3 games of the week pay 1.2 billion. And the other 7 games each weekend with 16 teams? 120 games per year, average of 9 or 10 per weekend. 120 games at 1.2 billion makes sense at 10 million per game. But if I understand the rights - that is only 1.2 billion for 36 games?maxer said:it's $1.23B per year ($500m from Fox for first position, $350m from NBC for Sat night, and $380m from CBS for 3:30 window) which is just under $77m per school. The rest is meant to come from football playoff, NCAA tournament, radio, etc.LTbear said:Unit2Sucks said:They need to cobble together $1.6B per year. The B1G tried to get 1/4 of that from ESPN who decided it wasn't worth it. I think there is every reason to be skeptical that the B1G won't be able to get there.berserkeley said:By Fox, CBS, and NBC picking up the rights and willing to pay even more than ESPN. This is a not a bad sign for the Big Ten.Unit2Sucks said:
How is the B1G going to get to $100M per year per team?
You're interpreting this wrong - the B1G DID get that piece of the pie, ESPN just got outbid for it. The B1G is going to be making insane money. FOX, CBS, NBC and a streaming partner are collectively paying out their arse for different slices of the B1G pie.
That seems insane. Are they really paying 30 million per game?
Best I can tell, that is almost as much as the NFL gets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/03/19/nfls-new-tv-deals-hand-teams-300-million-per-year-and-still-wont-drive-franchise-values-higher/?sh=6cb3294b4f04
According to Forbes, the NFL's new deal pays $113 billion over 11 years. That is $10.272B per year. There are 32 NFL teams, which breaks down to $321M per team, per year. The teams play 17 games, so divided by 8.5 (2 teams per game), that is $37.8M per game.
The Big-10 is getting almost as much per game for their top 3 games as the NFL gets per game. Which seems...insane.
Considering it more, I think that NFL figure includes the playoffs and super bowl, which makes the big ten deal particularly shocking.
But you're comparing the average NFL game to the best B1G game. If the B1G does in fact make $100M/school and we assume 100% of that money comes from regular season football games (it doesn't), the B1G will make $16.5M per game ($1.6B / 97 games - 1 conference championship, 72 conference games, 24 OOC games - which is probably low). And when you remove the bowl game/playoff money plus money from other media rights (like men's basketball), that number is probably below $15M for the average game. Still crazy, but remember, that $37.8M/game for the NFL includes Jaguars vs Jets.
The Big10 money includes Rutgers at Indiana
He forgot to include Cal.BigDaddy said:
Also from the Athletic with link below:
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
Bobodeluxe said:He forgot to include Cal.BigDaddy said:
Also from the Athletic with link below:
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
Haven't seen anyone include us after that initial story of the B1G looking at UW, UO, Cal and Stanford. It's almost like everyone reread it and was like cal? No way that must have been a mistake lol...
fat_slice said:Bobodeluxe said:He forgot to include Cal.BigDaddy said:
Also from the Athletic with link below:
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
Haven't seen anyone include us after that initial story of the B1G looking at UW, UO, Cal and Stanford. It's almost like everyone reread it and was like cal? No way that must have been a mistake lol...
I heard they were considering taking UC Berkeley over Cal.
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Bobodeluxe said:He forgot to include Cal.BigDaddy said:
Also from the Athletic with link below:
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
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dimitrig said:fat_slice said:Bobodeluxe said:He forgot to include Cal.BigDaddy said:
Also from the Athletic with link below:
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
Haven't seen anyone include us after that initial story of the B1G looking at UW, UO, Cal and Stanford. It's almost like everyone reread it and was like cal? No way that must have been a mistake lol...
I heard they were considering taking UC Berkeley over Cal.
pretty sure Berkeley doesn't have a football team... liberal academic school with a bunch of Nobels
Big C said:dimitrig said:fat_slice said:Bobodeluxe said:He forgot to include Cal.BigDaddy said:
Also from the Athletic with link below:
The Big Ten's decision to add USC and UCLA earlier this summer sparked another wave of speculation about super conferences. Though the SEC and Big Ten are both going to be at 16 members apiece by 2025, the expectation throughout the industry is that neither league is going to stay at that size forever.
But there has not been any major movement since that news broke at the end of June. The Pac-12 is beginning to work through its media rights deal and figure out what it is worth to partners without the L.A. schools. That is likely the next important piece of the puzzle, as will be any sort of contractual relationships that tether schools such as Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Pac-12 for a set period of time.
The Big Ten opted to add just two schools back in June. Now that the media deal is nearly done, could it look further into the possibility of a western wing? If the Big Ten really wanted to, it could look both to the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. That could give the conference inventory for the Saturday late-night TV window a fourth window, for those keeping track at home and also allow for easier travel opportunities for all sports for the L.A. schools.
Could the new media rights deal and relationship with NBC convince Notre Dame to make a move? The Big Ten would surely act quickly if that became a possibility.
https://theathletic.com/3488621/2022/08/08/big-ten-media-rights-facts/
Haven't seen anyone include us after that initial story of the B1G looking at UW, UO, Cal and Stanford. It's almost like everyone reread it and was like cal? No way that must have been a mistake lol...
I heard they were considering taking UC Berkeley over Cal.
pretty sure Berkeley doesn't have a football team... liberal academic school with a bunch of Nobels
My favorite was way back when we were playing Oklahoma and got into an inevitable academics debate with a Sooner visitor, who finally said "C'mon Cal's a good school, but it's not like you are Berkeley or something."
We should retire Cal and just go with Berkeley. Our helmet can have the Nobel prize emblem on it.
We can also change our mascot from Golden Bears to.... The Berkeliums or The Cyclotrons.
We can also change our mascot from Golden Bears to.... The Berkeliums or The Cyclotrons.
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