Charlie Kirk

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In reply to GoOskie • 4:50p, 9/11/25
GoOskie said:
Here's some relevant quotes from Kirk:


"I think empathy is a new age term that does a lot of damage" - Kirk


You didn't even include the whole quote. Charlie went on to say he prefers sympathy because you can't really ever feel someone else's pain.
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In reply to Big C • 4:53p, 9/11/25
DiabloWags seems to think so.
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In reply to movielover • 5:04p, 9/11/25
movielover said:

Your posts are so full of holes. Charlie Kirk had security, he wasn't "dumb", "naive", or "entitled" as he created this whole movement since he was 18. He was not in an "untouchable" bubble.



Cool story.

The event at Utah State University didn't even have an entry checkpoint.
No gate. No bag check. Not even a QR check for the tickets.

Once again, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.
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In reply to concordtom • 5:05p, 9/11/25
Charlie was like a son to Trump. You think this is some photo op? Trump quite literally owes his second term to Charlie and Trump knows that. This is deeply personal to him, more than his house being raided… more than being impeached
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In reply to concordtom • 5:05p, 9/11/25
The internet bro. It's everywhere…
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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:06p, 9/11/25
But your reality isn't warped? Dream on… we all see the content fed to us by the algorithms.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:07p, 9/11/25
BearlySane88 said:
But your reality isn't warped? Dream on… we all see the content fed to us by the algorithms.


Here's your boy Charlie word for word.
No algos.


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOdzDWZDqov/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet


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In reply to concordtom • 5:08p, 9/11/25
No what got him fired was saying Charlie asked for it
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5:09p, 9/11/25


Round up the usual suspects
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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:13p, 9/11/25
Rap music is largely degenerate… any music that consistently glorifies rape/murder/drugs/etc is.

Pretty sure his point on the Holocaust is that more people have died from abortions, which is a fact

Can't support the racist language in the second clip, I've never claimed he was perfect either
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:15p, 9/11/25
BearlySane88 said:
Rap music is largely degenerate… any music that consistently glorifies rape/murder/drugs/etc is.

Pretty sure his point on the Holocaust is that more people have died from abortions, which is a fact

Can't support the racist language in the second clip, I've never claimed he was perfect either


He's far from perfect.
He also blames women in their 20's for the low birth rate.
He checks an awful lot of "boxes" . . . including the misogynist one.


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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:19p, 9/11/25
As mentioned, I said he's not perfect. Love how you ignore my other points lol

Go outside, get some fresh air, stop believing everything you see on the internet. I hope you find peace, your soul needs it.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:22p, 9/11/25
BearlySane88 said:
As mentioned, I said he's not perfect. Love how you ignore my other points lol

Go outside, get some fresh air, stop believing everything you see on the internet. I hope you find peace, your soul needs it.


Says the poster who joined in 2020 that has never posted in the OT forum until now.
And is on his 12th straight post in the last 40 minutes.

lol



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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:23p, 9/11/25
BearlySane88 said:
stop believing everything you see on the internet.
That's good advice for everyone. There's a WHOLE lot of that going around on all parts of the political spectrum these days.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:25p, 9/11/25
Should I be concerned? You're weird bro
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:25p, 9/11/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Anarchistbear said:
There was much more political violence in the 1960's and 70's. Two Kennedys, MLK, Wallace. Plus domestic bombing by political groups. In the 1970's 50-60 bombings per year peaking with 460 in 1970. Targets were US House, State Dept, Pentagon and many more.

Kirk's thing is trivial and a social media murder. . Twitter rhetoric is viscous and inflammatory. It's also divorced from reality. If you're putting out all this venom, you should be aware in a nation long on guns and mental derangement, that there is a reasonable possibility someone is going to shoot you. Think about it more

The main difference between political violence then and now is that previous violence was largely met with disapproval nationwide while today's violence feels justified to a certain group of people, and therefore, celebrated.

This is the key thing that has changed. Many people feel that words = violence and that violence is an appropriate response to words. Many in the media reinforce these ideas.

This is particularly prevalent in academia and among many college students.

"The 34% of students who at least occasionally defend the use of violence to interrupt a speech is an increase from the 32% who said the same last year. In 2022, that figure was 20%. There are also record numbers of students who think it is acceptable to shout down speakers (71%) and to block other students from attending a speech (54%). "

https://unherd.com/newsroom/third-of-us-students-say-violence-is-acceptable-response-to-speech/?lang=us




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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 5:26p, 9/11/25
Amen.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:30p, 9/11/25
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
Rap music is largely degenerate… any music that consistently glorifies rape/murder/drugs/etc is.

Pretty sure his point on the Holocaust is that more people have died from abortions, which is a fact

Can't support the racist language in the second clip, I've never claimed he was perfect either


He's far from perfect.
He also blames women in their 20's for the low birth rate.
He checks an awful lot of "boxes" . . . including the misogynist one.


Women are biologically wired to have children in their 20s, not late 30s / 40s after hooking up for years. Society sold this falsehood. 60 Minutes had a story over two decades ago and young college women at an Ivy thought it would be no big deal to get pregnant in their 40s or 50s bc they see celebs doing it - not knowing they had expensive fertility treatments or paid a surrogate 100K.

It's a societal/ cultural issue, but women bear the practical burden. A man in his 30s-50s can marry a younger woman - problem solved (for him). And some studies reportedly say that up to 50% of childless women in their 50s are depressed.

So CK didn't go into that detail and nuance.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:32p, 9/11/25
DiabloWags said:
tequila4kapp said:
There's no question that's part of it for the administration, but that's only part of it. The guy was universally beloved by those who knew him. It's amazing how many people are commenting that they didn't seriously follow him (or other celebrities) but his death has REALLY impacted them. I think that's because of the kindness and decency with which he treated people, his faith and his love of family. There's something more going on with this.


I didn't follow him but I know people that did.

He sounded like he was very much a political nerd that became part of the Trump movement and very much interested in facilitating OPEN DEBATE and spirited discourse.

As Gavin Newsom said, "In a democracy, ideas are tested through words and good-faith debate - - - never through violence. Honest disagreement makes us stronger; violence only drive us further apart and corrodes the values at the heart of this nation."

I don't have a problem with that.
That's what our country is based on.

But a minute of silence at an EU Parliament assembly?
Ridiculous.

But I see people using his death as a "weapon".
And that's what's wrong.








I think all of these political bodies granting him a moment of silence reflects the politicians being able to empathize (non-political definition of being able to put oneself in another's shoes) with a political figure being assassinated. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but we can all certainly agree that a political figure being assassinated at a public event is different, and perhaps ironically less tragic, than kids dying at a school shooting. The message and the messenger are completely different. I grew up during the late 60's and this definitely takes me back to the bad old days of MLK, RFK, George Wallace, etc...
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:41p, 9/11/25
BearlySane88 said:
Go outside, get some fresh air, stop believing everything you see on the internet. I hope you find peace, your soul needs it.

Maybe take your own advice? How many times have you posted in the last hour?
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In reply to sycasey • 5:43p, 9/11/25
Been outside all day. Had the pleasure of teaching my classes in the sunshine today. It was beautiful.

And to your comment, that's quite literally why I have posted so much in the last hour. Catching up when I don't live on my phone all day long
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5:47p, 9/11/25
Charlie Kirk would tell underage girls how they should live their lives. That makes him a groomer as well as all the other descriptions of him.
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In reply to dajo9 • 5:49p, 9/11/25
lol what? Do you know what a groomer is? Please explain your logic here because I can't seem to make that connection fit
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:51p, 9/11/25
BearlySane88 said:
lol what? Do you know what a groomer is? Please explain your logic here because I can't seem to make that connection fit


I think i just did explain what a groomer is
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In reply to dajo9 • 5:54p, 9/11/25
And Charlie was one because…
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 5:55p, 9/11/25
BearlySane88 said:
And Charlie was one because…


Give it another try. Nice and slow this time.
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/128982/replies/2542328
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In reply to DiabloWags • 6:13p, 9/11/25
I hate to be ghoulish but if it turns out the killer was a right wing nut trying to spark a civil war i am going to laigh my ass off at the back pedling
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:15p, 9/11/25
Yep same as before… How was Charlie a groomer?
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In reply to juarezbear • 6:16p, 9/11/25
The moments of silence feel appropriate for a publoc figure. Guessing there was one for john lennen. It is airforce 2 and suggeations for him to lie in state that are massively over the top.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 6:18p, 9/11/25
Anarchistbear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Anarchistbear said:
There was much more political violence in the 1960's and 70's. Two Kennedys, MLK, Wallace. Plus domestic bombing by political groups. In the 1970's 50-60 bombings per year peaking with 460 in 1970. Targets were US House, State Dept, Pentagon and many more.

Kirk's thing is trivial and a social media murder. . Twitter rhetoric is viscous and inflammatory. It's also divorced from reality. If you're putting out all this venom, you should be aware in a nation long on guns and mental derangement, that there is a reasonable possibility someone is going to shoot you. Think about it more

The main difference between political violence then and now is that previous violence was largely met with disapproval nationwide while today's violence feels justified to a certain group of people, and therefore, celebrated.


Still true except for the social media chattering class. They turn words into blood- it will continue because they are chained to the beast that feeds them. No normal person knows who Charlie Kirk is.

On one hand, all the freaks on this social media forum are apparently aware of who Charlie Kirk is, on the other hand, so are the thousands of young people who showed up to hear him speak at the Utah college as well the tens of thousands of other students who showed up to his Turning Point USA events throughout the years.
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In reply to socaltownie • 6:19p, 9/11/25
socaltownie said:
I hate to be ghoulish but if it turns out the killer was a right wing nut trying to spark a civil war i am going to laigh my ass off at the back pedling


They won't backpedal. The truth doesn't matter. A rightie shot at Trump and they still call him a lefty or just say "they" tried to kill Trump. It's all propaganda for their fascist movement.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:19p, 9/11/25
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Go outside, get some fresh air, stop believing everything you see on the internet. I hope you find peace, your soul needs it.

Maybe take your own advice? How many times have you posted in the last hour?


25 posts since 4:42 pm.
I guess he's making up for lost time.

lol
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In reply to DiabloWags • 6:22p, 9/11/25
DiabloWags said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Go outside, get some fresh air, stop believing everything you see on the internet. I hope you find peace, your soul needs it.

Maybe take your own advice? How many times have you posted in the last hour?


25 posts since 4:42 pm.
I guess he's making up for lost time.

lol


I tagged in a bit for his bender
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:22p, 9/11/25
dajo9 said:
Charlie Kirk would tell underage girls how they should live their lives. That makes him a groomer as well as all the other descriptions of him.


Not a groomer, a mentor. That's beyond a stretch.
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In reply to concordtom • 6:24p, 9/11/25
concordtom said:
On CNN,a representative said 2/3rd of violent talk comes from the radical right, 1/3 from left.

I didn't catch who.
But I believe him.

Is this the same CNN rep that said Kamala is up 3 points over Trump in Iowa?
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