BearlySane88 said:
I think you will end up being wrong about this. This one is gonna stick for awhile. There's a large population of soon to be voters and another large population of voter who just reached voting age that are truly impacted by this event. I've hear some middle schoolers call it their generations 9/11 in the sense that they will remember where they were when they heard the news
movielover said:
Any East Bay Klan members in your family?
Asking for a friend.
Here is the path to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. They all have blood on their hands. pic.twitter.com/Q21UtMWlnS
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) September 12, 2025
Before he lost his faculties, he was a paragon of hate. pic.twitter.com/OrOxiEuoXc
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) September 12, 2025
movielover said:PAC-10-BEAR said:
Did Karma catch up to the Ukranian girl stabbed in the neck on the subway?
I understand StalkerWags obsession w race and white guilt better now. I never knew Walnut Creek had a Klan history, even up through the 70s when he was in high school.
AI: "Historical context (Sundown Town): In the mid-20th century, Walnut Creek was known as a "sundown town," a community where Black people were not allowed to be present after dark."
Explains why he didn't have Black friends until Cal in his 20s.
Anarchistbear said:
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You think the killing of a podcaster is a seminal event, their 9/11. Kids aren't that dumb, most don't know who he is- that's my take from the Deep South where I'm visiting family. You may have a different vantage.
Grigsby said:
Have to laugh at all the pearl clutch over a groyper shooting a genocide denier, stochastic terrorist, and seditionist for not being anti-Jewish enough.
going4roses said:
Antioch
El Sobrante
Brentwood or whatever it was called up to the 80's
San Leandro
BearlySane88 said:Anarchistbear said:
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Heard it from the mouth of babes, it wasn't my words. The youth know who he is.
movielover said:
Have you told your hot wife you have a crush on me?
BearlySane88 said:
AI is an amazing tool for compiling research, news reports, etc. Not sure why you think that's an insult…
movielover said:
Have you told your hot wife you have a crush on me?
PAC-10-BEAR said:His father turned him in, after consulting with his pastor, knowing the president and the state governor are calling for the death penalty. Father is in law enforcement. Mother is a social worker. Military history family. Registered Republican parents. Action oriented DNA. See a… pic.twitter.com/ZtWQ12hlI1
— Donnie Cope (@dcopechatter) September 12, 2025
"College was enough to radicalize his son."
Did college radicalize Bearinsiders too?
sycasey said:BearGoggles said:sycasey said:BearGoggles said:concordtom said:DiabloWags said:concordtom said:DiabloWags said:
School shootings happen almost every month in this country.
Where is the moment of silence for the parents of these kids who die because we have a love affair with guns in this country?
Charlie Kirk's death is being "promoted" by the Administration because he had a following that voted for Trump.
Let's be honest about this.
Kirk wasn't Martin Luther King.
Or Nelson Mandela.
Pointing that out is what got the MSNBC guy fired.
I heard it was more about Matthew Dowd criticizing Kirk for his hate speech.
Dowd said Kirk has been "one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions."
"I think that's the environment we're in, that the people just you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have, and then saying these awful words, and not expect awful actions to take place. And that's the unfortunate environment we're in," he added.
I just meant, you pointed out that Kirk was not some great guy like Mandela or King, and the MSNBC guy gave reason for his getting shot - not a great guy but angering with his political debating.
And apparently it's too soon to let anyone know what we all can figure out.
I mean, Kirk has pisses me off when I've heard him speak.
But then again, I probably piss others off just the same.
Big C, Okaydo…. They never piss anyone off, right?
Thank you for providing the exact quote!!! Thumbs up to that. Better than my generalized summary
This discussion is inane. What difference does it make what Kirk said or what views he held? Even if it was "hate speech", racist, or misogynistic (all subjective opinions), it doesn't justify his killing. NOTHING he said has any bearing on the violence he was subjected to. The entire discussion implies he had it coming or that somehow we all should not be outraged that this happened (or less outraged) because Kirk was a "bad guy." NOTHING he said justifies his assassination or a lesser reaction to it.
And I would point out that many political figures on the left say racist, hateful, bigoted, and/or other outrageous things that are well outside the Overton window. Rashida Tlaib and Ilan Omar come to mind for saying some objectively antisemitic things. Biden said some crazy things. None of that has any bearing on whether they should be assassinated (which of course they should not).
If god forbid, one of them - or another popular dem figure like Obama - was assassinated, would you be discussing the merits of their statements and political positions? Would the liberals on this board think that had any relevance to the crime? I highly doubt it.
Who are you arguing with? No one here thinks the killing was justified.
I'm arguing with everyone who wants to discuss Kirk's views in the context of his assassination, as many have done in this thread. It is the equivalent of discussing what a rape victim was wearing. Both irrelevant and disgusting.
Latest example is here.
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/128982/replies/2542836
Well, given what we're learning about the killer, it seems like he probably shot Charlie Kirk for not being right-wing ENOUGH. So it might be time for everyone to update their priors.Elon Musk's Grok AI identifies Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, as a "Groyper" from "the toxic underbelly of the MAGA ecosystem". pic.twitter.com/uiM48d2884
— I was warning about this back in 2005. (@brucewilson) September 12, 2025I've seen some Millennials saying that Bella Ciao being on the casing means that the 22-yr old shooter was a leftist.
— Mike from PA (@Mike_from_PA) September 12, 2025
Here is a remix of Bella Ciao on the "Groyper War" America First playlist. Groyper War refers to their targeting of CHARLIE KIRK. pic.twitter.com/TDIXuvl5cjGROYPERS are NOT beating the charges.
— Pastor Ben (@BenjaminPDixon) September 12, 2025
Anything can happen. So, I'll hedge a bit longer.
But Tyler Robinson is looking more and more like a far-right Groyper
This and the homophobic inscription "if you read this you're gay"
The call is coming from inside the house pic.twitter.com/e3hl2CdE7a
Also, Matthew Dowd looks like he was absolutely correct about the cause of this incident and should probably be reinstated by MSNBC.
wifeisafurd said:PAC-10-BEAR said:His father turned him in, after consulting with his pastor, knowing the president and the state governor are calling for the death penalty. Father is in law enforcement. Mother is a social worker. Military history family. Registered Republican parents. Action oriented DNA. See a… pic.twitter.com/ZtWQ12hlI1
— Donnie Cope (@dcopechatter) September 12, 2025
"College was enough to radicalize his son."
Did college radicalize Bearinsiders too?
Narrative seems to be changing. Dad who customized counters and home cabinets is now considered part of law enforcement. From the Dajo school of spinning. Conservative parents owe apologies to the deep left for letting their child become part of the deep left. BBC already reporting ANTIFA leanings, hmm, How do they know this? . Suggest everyone wait until the facts come out, rather than providing BS commentary.
wifeisafurd said:PAC-10-BEAR said:His father turned him in, after consulting with his pastor, knowing the president and the state governor are calling for the death penalty. Father is in law enforcement. Mother is a social worker. Military history family. Registered Republican parents. Action oriented DNA. See a… pic.twitter.com/ZtWQ12hlI1
— Donnie Cope (@dcopechatter) September 12, 2025
"College was enough to radicalize his son."
Did college radicalize Bearinsiders too?
Narrative seems to be changing. Dad who customized counters and home cabinets is now considered part of law enforcement. From the Dajo school of spinning. Conservative parents owe apologies to the deep left for letting their child become part of the deep left. BBC already reporting ANTIFA leanings, hmm, How do they know this? . Suggest everyone wait until the facts come out, rather than providing BS commentary.
BearlySane88 said:
I think you're the one with the crush…
When you reply to concordtom and don't quote him, I have to guess what comment of concordtom's you're replying to. I took it to be the one just before yours. Apparently that wasn't what you were replying to.BearlySane88 said:
Uh… I wasn't replying to that at all. Haven't made a single mention about the event you're connecting my comment to
going4roses said:
Sock puppetry to the fullest
Anarchistbear said:BearlySane88 said:
I think you will end up being wrong about this. This one is gonna stick for awhile. There's a large population of soon to be voters and another large population of voter who just reached voting age that are truly impacted by this event. I've hear some middle schoolers call it their generations 9/11 in the sense that they will remember where they were when they heard the news
You think the killing of a podcaster is a seminal event, their 9/11. Kids aren't that dumb, most don't know who he is- that's my take from the Deep South where I'm visiting family. You may have a different vantage.
bearister said:
Trump Lite Truth Social post after attempt murder on Paul Pelosi. Sh@its and giggles for the High Guy:
PAC-10-BEAR said:Anarchistbear said:BearlySane88 said:
I think you will end up being wrong about this. This one is gonna stick for awhile. There's a large population of soon to be voters and another large population of voter who just reached voting age that are truly impacted by this event. I've hear some middle schoolers call it their generations 9/11 in the sense that they will remember where they were when they heard the news
You think the killing of a podcaster is a seminal event, their 9/11. Kids aren't that dumb, most don't know who he is- that's my take from the Deep South where I'm visiting family. You may have a different vantage.
It was a huge event, seminal. Epic. Even Democratic frontrunners and fellow podcaster, Gavin Newsom understands this.
PAC-10-BEAR said:Anarchistbear said:BearlySane88 said:
I think you will end up being wrong about this. This one is gonna stick for awhile. There's a large population of soon to be voters and another large population of voter who just reached voting age that are truly impacted by this event. I've hear some middle schoolers call it their generations 9/11 in the sense that they will remember where they were when they heard the news
You think the killing of a podcaster is a seminal event, their 9/11. Kids aren't that dumb, most don't know who he is- that's my take from the Deep South where I'm visiting family. You may have a different vantage.
It was a huge event, seminal. Epic. Even Democratic frontrunners and fellow podcaster, Gavin Newsom understands this.