Charlie Kirk

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going4roses
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Aww touched a nerve you are big mad lol

You don't know what Racism is clearly
Race + power = racism
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
going4roses
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Interesting take
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
BearlySane88
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I know that you're a racist, close minded individual who spews hate. We don't have to bow down to you anymore, people's eyes are open now
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Leave the right-wing conspiracy theorizing to the professionals. We may not always get it right but when we do, you'll find out about it buried in the New York Times 18 months later.
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As far as what they should do with the assassin, if I was the Philosopher King, once he is convicted, I would leave it up to Mrs. Kirk. If she wants to show mercy and give him life w/o parole, go that route. If she wants to Big Jab or Gary Gilmore him, go that route.
I say he kicks, screams and cries…..but his mugshot leaves open the possibility of a full psycho that will say, "Let's do it," with that smirk on his face, as they jab him or as the firing squad carries out the order, in the event Utah can't get the lethal injection drugs.
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BearlySane88 said:

concordtom said:


Y'all confuse me.

We call out Trump angrily and that elicits a response for others to vote for him?
Crazy!

Neither Dajo nor I are Trump/Republican apologists. Look in the mirror?


Of course it confuses you, that's why the left lost the election. Yall don't see it. You don't realize that people see through the BS


I'm not confused at all.

You clearly have more than one screen-name here that you post under.
"You don't realize that people see through the BS."

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOjzkakDXr2/?igsh=eWc5YjE5YTd5YWl6

Hmm
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
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DiabloWags said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

wifeisafurd said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Calling Trump, Hitler and his followers, Nazis, are acceptable but celebrating Charlie's assassination can get you fired? I'm not sure I understand the left-wing rulebook anymore.

The firings are being done by employers, many being school districts.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charlie-kirk-death-teachers-professors-nationwide-fired-disciplined-s-rcna230845

They were in violation of their own company's hate speech policies? But this wasn't work-related or directed towards their own coworkers.


At FOX NEWS, you can tell everyone to "Just Kill Them" when it comes to the homeless.
And you have absolute job security.

I give you Brian Kilmeade.




Rachel Nichols got fired for this





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Does the "T" in LGBTQ+ stand for terrorism?
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bearister said:

"Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America."
Charlie Kirk

Great quote. Should have been used by more people.
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ACC Bear said:

bearister said:

"Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America."
Charlie Kirk

Great quote. Should have been used by more people.


I have said this a lot about you lately: At least you are honest and transparent about who you have morphed into……..and you kinda have to respect that. I personally kinda dig MAGA fanboys with self awareness that are willing to own the whole enchilada. You are among the very few.

You are basically Charlie Manson after Terry Melcher refused to give him a record contract.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Does the "T" in LGBTQ+ stand for terrorism?

This post is flat out misinformation of precisely the kind that is such a problem in social media. The Ulvade shooter was NOT trans. This piece (along with several dozen others) gets into the origins of this story.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101479269/texas-uvalde-school-shooting-misinformation-conspiracy-far-right

But in this ****ed up world we are living in there are NO consequences for offering up this falsehood. Indeed, there are BENEFITS because more outrage, more eyeballs, more prominence in the feed which you can monetize with affiliate marketing.

Governor Cox has it precisely right. Back away from the outrage machine. I had a lovely hike in the Laguna Mountains today. 9 miles. Felt great.
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wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

wifeisafurd said:

concordtom said:

BearlySane88 said:

concordtom said:

BearlySane88 said:

dajo9 said:

BREAKING NEWS

3 years ago Tyler Robinson had breakfast at a diner and 2 tables over a transgender person was having a cup of coffee. Kash Patel promises to relentlessly follow this lead.


So you're minimizing the fact that he lived and likely was in a relationship with his trans roommate? This isn't some far flung connection like you make it seem.

That being said, no clue why he shot Charlie but it's starting to line up like the right thought it would and the opposite of what all of you on here claimed it to would be. Shooter wasn't far right, or even close to it.


How about if NONE OF US try to condemn entire groups of people, specifically one half of the US or the other half (as there's only two halves in a Left-Right model) , simply because of the singular act of a singular person.

Can we agree that what Tyler did was specific to Tyler, and that it was horrible?



Yes absolutely abhorrent but I don't think it's ever just about one person. Yes he made the action, he wasn't driven to that action on his own though. And that goes for all of these "ideology killers."

Im intrigued why you continue to use the shooters name. When there are mass shootings, I regularly hear people, predominantly the left, saying don't glorify the shooter.





How does that response sound?

Premature. Wait until charges are filed on Tuesday (at least that is the latest) and a motive is likel to be an announced. I'm not of the school of thought that parents are responsible for everything an adult child does. Otherwise, you better have perfect kids.


Thumbs up to this post.


No, that's a bs argument because if you give your kids guns and teach them to use guns then if they use a gun that is consistent with the parenting they received.

So 38% of the parents in this country are turning their children into assassins. Got it. His parents were what supposed to hire a full time private detective to know what their son is doing? This really is a stupid justification.

Thomas and Sue Kleibold met when they were both studying art in college. After they both graduated, they married in 1971. Thomas had initially worked as a sculptor, but then moved to engineering. Sue had worked in assistance services for disabled children. The Klebold's were pacifists, attended a Lutheran church with their children, and regularly attended anti-gun rallies. Maybe they thought they were superior to others like you said you and like mind folks are above, The Klebold's named one son Dylan after the renowned poet Dylan Thomas. On April 20, 1999, Dylan and another boy walked into Columbine High School with firearms and explosives, and massacred their school mates.






More straw man arguments. Boring.
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BearlySane88 said:

Congrats on being the creepiest member of BI.

Hey, what am I, chopped freaking liver?
movielover
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All the meds they're on may be an issue, but there sure seems to be a lot of rage.



Utah-based trans militia group, Armed Queers Salt Lake City


movielover
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14-year-old Bryson Levy on Charlie Kirk.

Anarchistbear
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Radical leftists in Utah. The guy who voted for Biden

This thread is great. Some obscure guy gets whacked and all the paranoia of Dems and Repubs takes off.
socaltownie
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movielover said:

All the meds they're on may be an issue, but there sure seems to be a lot of rage.



Utah-based trans militia group, Armed Queers Salt Lake City




You contribute to the problem. A challenging research question but the best work says no statistcal relationship

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/09/trans-people-mass-shootings-gun-violence/#:~:text=We've%20reviewed%20similar%20statements,investigations%20and%20court%20records%20found.

Where there IS evidence is that Trans people are the VICTIMS of violence. That is why this current tenor (and yes, Kirk is part of that) makes me SO sad - essentially piling on those who already are isolated and victims.

Yes, I will go there, if Kirk actually had been the kind of Christina that reads the gospels and understands the actual words of Jesus he would have stood WITH trans people rather than demonize them. My mom had words for people like him - Social club Christians whose "faith" is entirely easy and doesn't require much of anything of them rather than casting stones at others.
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wifeisafurd said:

Anarchistbear said:

Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.

Generally the view was the you could be wrong and indecent in this country, and that a discussion of ideas would counter that. BG's view is that one side stifled the debate of ideas and now needs to pay the price for doing so.

Actually, my preference is that there not be cancel culture for views in the Overton window (or even adjacent) but, as a non-deity, I can't magically manifest that. We have cancel culture, particularly in the past 5-10 years. So my view is that the only chance (not guarantee) to stop cancelling is to ensure that both sides suffer from them. Do you have a better suggestion as to how to accomplish this change?
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ACC Bear said:

dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

dajo9 said:

"As a black man, I think Charlie Kirk is great"

Charlie Kirk

https://bsky.app/profile/thestripesgirl.bsky.social/post/3lyspe2rmgk24

Lol.
That's pretty good!

Is that for real???

I believe it is

The last time you believed something without evidence because you wanted it to be true, you went on a five month board vacation when reality intervened. Stick with things you can verify.

LMAO. You forgot to mention his Trump will crash the stock market prognostication.
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BearGoggles said:

wifeisafurd said:

Anarchistbear said:

Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.

Generally the view was the you could be wrong and indecent in this country, and that a discussion of ideas would counter that. BG's view is that one side stifled the debate of ideas and now needs to pay the price for doing so.

Actually, my preference is that there not be cancel culture for views in the Overton window (or even adjacent) but, as a non-deity, I can't magically manifest that. We have cancel culture, particularly in the past 5-10 years. So my view is that the only chance (not guarantee) to stop cancelling is to ensure that both sides suffer from them. Do you have a better suggestion as to how to accomplish this change?

Well I might argue that you have a narrow historical view. Do you not think gays were cancelled with extreme prejudice in the 1950s and 1960s? I would love to take you to Stonewall to help you understand that....which is why sometimes engaging with the right is so frustrating because they don't grapple with history nearly enough.

PS. this is not to say that there were some very ridiculous things that have occured during the past 10 years. But it feels very much like small beans compared to what those going against majority cultural views faced in our past. Remember, it used to be that if you didn't go to church you were cancelled and god (pun intended) forbid you said you didn't believe.
DiabloWags
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Anarchistbear said:

Radical leftists in Utah. The guy who voted for Biden

This thread is great. Some obscure guy gets whacked and all the paranoia of Dems and Repubs takes off.


And guys who have been members of Bearinsider since 2020 and have never ever posted in OT get "triggered" by the death of an osbscure podcaster who tapped into algos to spread hate ... wind up posting 85 times in two days in OT.

So many sockpuppets.

Like Charlie Kirk posting as a black man telling everyone how he agrees with Kirk, but its Kirk posting with his own name, forgetting to log-out and getting EXPOSED.

TRULY REMARKABLE.


movielover
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Who elected you Hall Monitor?
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

Who elected you Hall Monitor?


Contrary to you, I actually am a CAL alum.
Why are you here?
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socaltownie said:

BearGoggles said:

wifeisafurd said:

Anarchistbear said:

Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.

Generally the view was the you could be wrong and indecent in this country, and that a discussion of ideas would counter that. BG's view is that one side stifled the debate of ideas and now needs to pay the price for doing so.

Actually, my preference is that there not be cancel culture for views in the Overton window (or even adjacent) but, as a non-deity, I can't magically manifest that. We have cancel culture, particularly in the past 5-10 years. So my view is that the only chance (not guarantee) to stop cancelling is to ensure that both sides suffer from them. Do you have a better suggestion as to how to accomplish this change?

Well I might argue that you have a narrow historical view. Do you not think gays were cancelled with extreme prejudice in the 1950s and 1960s? I would love to take you to Stonewall to help you understand that....which is why sometimes engaging with the right is so frustrating because they don't grapple with history nearly enough.

PS. this is not to say that there were some very ridiculous things that have occured during the past 10 years. But it feels very much like small beans compared to what those going against majority cultural views faced in our past. Remember, it used to be that if you didn't go to church you were cancelled and god (pun intended) forbid you said you didn't believe.

Gays were actively discriminated against in the 1950s, 60s (and probably through at least the 90s). It was not really considered wrong by the standards of the time - that is an observation not an endorsement of those views/practices. Other minorities, notably blacks, of course had similar discrimination dating back centuries. Post 1964, we have pretty clear federal laws that make that type of discrimination illegal.

But you are wrongfully conflating discrimination with cancelling. Cancelling (in the context of this discussion) refers to punishing people for their political views (de-platforming, de-banking, firing from private employment, etc), regardless of whether they are gay, black, etc. Note my important qualification - this is for views in the Overton window (which moves) or adjacent. The better analogy would have been McCarthyism and the resulting black lists.

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BearGoggles said:

socaltownie said:

BearGoggles said:

wifeisafurd said:

Anarchistbear said:

Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.

Generally the view was the you could be wrong and indecent in this country, and that a discussion of ideas would counter that. BG's view is that one side stifled the debate of ideas and now needs to pay the price for doing so.

Actually, my preference is that there not be cancel culture for views in the Overton window (or even adjacent) but, as a non-deity, I can't magically manifest that. We have cancel culture, particularly in the past 5-10 years. So my view is that the only chance (not guarantee) to stop cancelling is to ensure that both sides suffer from them. Do you have a better suggestion as to how to accomplish this change?

Well I might argue that you have a narrow historical view. Do you not think gays were cancelled with extreme prejudice in the 1950s and 1960s? I would love to take you to Stonewall to help you understand that....which is why sometimes engaging with the right is so frustrating because they don't grapple with history nearly enough.

PS. this is not to say that there were some very ridiculous things that have occured during the past 10 years. But it feels very much like small beans compared to what those going against majority cultural views faced in our past. Remember, it used to be that if you didn't go to church you were cancelled and god (pun intended) forbid you said you didn't believe.

Gays were actively discriminated against in the 1950s, 60s (and probably through at least the 90s). It was not really considered wrong by the standards of the time - that is an observation not an endorsement of those views/practices. Other minorities, notably blacks, of course had similar discrimination dating back centuries. Post 1964, we have pretty clear federal laws that make that type of discrimination illegal.

But you are wrongfully conflating discrimination with cancelling. Cancelling (in the context of this discussion) refers to punishing people for their political views (de-platforming, de-banking, firing from private employment, etc), regardless of whether they are gay, black, etc. Note my important qualification - this is for views in the Overton window (which moves) or adjacent. The better analogy would have been McCarthyism and the resulting black lists.



Gays were fired and denied banking services (and lots of other services) when they were "out of the closet". Whole origin of that term.

And I use that because it is "cultural". I mean libertarians were never fired for reading Ann Rand. Cancel culture seems to be part of the broader culture wars.
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BearGoggles said:

ACC Bear said:

dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

dajo9 said:

"As a black man, I think Charlie Kirk is great"

Charlie Kirk

https://bsky.app/profile/thestripesgirl.bsky.social/post/3lyspe2rmgk24

Lol.
That's pretty good!

Is that for real???

I believe it is

The last time you believed something without evidence because you wanted it to be true, you went on a five month board vacation when reality intervened. Stick with things you can verify.

LMAO. You forgot to mention his Trump will crash the stock market prognostication.


I made a killing on that trade, premised on the idea that Trump was incompetent. In March 2020, when Trump was bungling the covid response, I sold Treasuries at the top and bought back into the stock market within days of the bottom. All documented in real time in that same thread.

Also the stock market had better annualized returns under Clinton, Obama, and Biden than it did under Trump.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/09/14/scott_adams_why_did_people_think_they_could_cheer_charlie_kirk_murder_without_consequences.html
DiabloWags
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Where was Charlie Kirk's security team?
Why wasnt anyone up on the roof?
How dumb were these guys?
BearGoggles
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dajo9 said:

BearGoggles said:

ACC Bear said:

dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

dajo9 said:

"As a black man, I think Charlie Kirk is great"

Charlie Kirk

https://bsky.app/profile/thestripesgirl.bsky.social/post/3lyspe2rmgk24

Lol.
That's pretty good!

Is that for real???

I believe it is

The last time you believed something without evidence because you wanted it to be true, you went on a five month board vacation when reality intervened. Stick with things you can verify.

LMAO. You forgot to mention his Trump will crash the stock market prognostication.


I made a killing on that trade, premised on the idea that Trump was incompetent. In March 2020, when Trump was bungling the covid response, I sold Treasuries at the top and bought back into the stock market within days of the bottom. All documented in real time in that same thread.

Also the stock market had better annualized returns under Clinton, Obama, and Biden than it did under Trump.

LOL - the stock market's crash in March 2020 due to covid had nothing to do with Trump as it would have crashed in any event - it was a worldwide financial event. And to be clear, your prediction was that the stock market would crash because of Trump in 2016 when it did the exact opposite prior to covid. And the market began its recovery in April 2020 eventually recovering in full by November 2020. The recovery really took hold after the COVID vaccine became available in late 2020 - thanks in no small part to Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_stock_market_crash#:~:text=The%20crash%20caused%20a%20short,flu%2C%20began%20decimating%20the%20economy.

Comparative annualized returns are irrelevant to your original claim. Objectively, the stock market did not crash in 2016 and has not crashed post Trump 2.0.

It is ok (and actually enhances credibility) to admit when you're wrong but you seem incapable of it.


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socaltownie said:

BearGoggles said:

wifeisafurd said:

Anarchistbear said:

Why should any broadcaster be fired for telling their audience what they want to hear? Be it Fox or the guy at MSNBC. And, no, decency and truth are not valid reasons.

Generally the view was the you could be wrong and indecent in this country, and that a discussion of ideas would counter that. BG's view is that one side stifled the debate of ideas and now needs to pay the price for doing so.

Actually, my preference is that there not be cancel culture for views in the Overton window (or even adjacent) but, as a non-deity, I can't magically manifest that. We have cancel culture, particularly in the past 5-10 years. So my view is that the only chance (not guarantee) to stop cancelling is to ensure that both sides suffer from them. Do you have a better suggestion as to how to accomplish this change?

Well I might argue that you have a narrow historical view. Do you not think gays were cancelled with extreme prejudice in the 1950s and 1960s? I would love to take you to Stonewall to help you understand that....which is why sometimes engaging with the right is so frustrating because they don't grapple with history nearly enough.

PS. this is not to say that there were some very ridiculous things that have occured during the past 10 years. But it feels very much like small beans compared to what those going against majority cultural views faced in our past. Remember, it used to be that if you didn't go to church you were cancelled and god (pun intended) forbid you said you didn't believe.

Yes, this was part of my argument on the left against the worst excesses of the "cancel culture" years: that it was a fundamentally conservative way of doing things. Blacklists/McCarthyism, the religious right of the 80s and 90s, "Freedom Fries" and boycotting the Dixie Chicks, Colin Kaepernick, etc. . . . most cancel culture came from the right. Of course once we had a brief period of it happening from the left (MeToo, BLM) the conservatives went ballistic.
DiabloWags
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Kind of strange how so many people here weren't "triggered" when Melissa Hortman and her husband and dog were killed in June at their home. - - - but they got they're terribly upset and "triggered" by the death of Kirk.

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bearister said:

ACC Bear said:

bearister said:

"Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America."
Charlie Kirk

Great quote. Should have been used by more people.


I have said this a lot about you lately: At least you are honest and transparent about who you have morphed into……..and you kinda have to respect that.

There's nothing honest about you though.

Too bad you missed the post where I said why I think Kirk is a dishonest "debater." Unlike you though, I take the time to actually hear what the guy said in his own words before forming my opinion of him. Prior to him getting shot, I didn't think about him at all. I think he's not quite the fascist racist that the left paints everyone on the right as, but he's also nowhere near the good, family man who treated people with differing opinions with respect. Just your garden variety right-wing Christian ******** with better PR and fundraising.

That Biden quote is fire though. When he dies, I'm gonna hire some Russian prostitutes to go to his final resting place and enact for real the fiction that Hillary wrote for Trump as they piss on his grave.

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So far, these have been the worst takes in no particular order:

1. Shooter was a right winger
2. Kirk deserved it.
3. It was Kiri's security detail's fault.
4. It was a one-off, we don't have a political violence problem.
5. But Epstein.
6. But Brian Kilmeade
7. Why are you obsessed with trans?
 
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