We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

And really, this is besides the point. Did he feel threatened by the moving vehicle and was that fear reasonable? That is the operative question.

The video shows him moving toward the other side of the vehicle before it moves. We do not know his motivation. There was no threat at that point...he may have been heading toward the driver side to help the other officer when the driver decided to move the vehicle. We just don't know.

It seems apparent this officer was not agitated, not aggressive, not 'rambo'. Same for the driver. She was politely sitting in the driver's seat, smiled and said "I am not mad at you" as the officer walked by. The wife was a problem. Notice the other observers on the sidewalk. That is what peaceful protesting and observing looks like. Wife was an agitator that contributed to all of this going down.

DiabloWags said:

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Another cool story.

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Those pictures appear to be selectively used to advance a false narrative.
Watch the slow motion video. He did not pull his gun until she started forward.

This is from the super slow motion video. Start at the 1:07 time stamp. Keep your eye over the back hip of the officer at the window. The shooting officer's holster and right hand will appear. He only removes his weapon when she moves forward.

tequila4kapp said:

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We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

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I think he may have been hit in a glancing blow as the car was pulling away, but it's not clear based on the video. (He wasn't "rammed" or "run over" as some have claimed.) That sound and jostle you identify could just be from him jumping back and firing his gun.

🚨 BREAKING: NEW YORK TIMES FORENSIC ANALYSIS DEBUNKS TRUMP ADMIN NARRATIVE THAT RENEE GOOD DELIBERATELY TIRED TO RUN OVER ICE AGENT. pic.twitter.com/jg10H2nJ3h

— Maine (@TheMaineWonk) January 8, 2026

What the second video reveals.
I have edited it and added comments.

Many argue that you can see the officer being hit here. Take a close look. You'll be surprised. #Minneapolis#ReneeNicoleGood Say her name. 💔 pic.twitter.com/EpjJGt0Nq0

— ᗪEᗰOGᑌᗩᖇᗪIᗩᑎ (@Demoguardian) January 8, 2026

The "F'n B**ch comment after he shoots her in the head 3 times (2 downstream) won't be helpful to the ice guys

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I think he may have been hit in a glancing blow as the car was pulling away, but it's not clear based on the video. (He wasn't "rammed" or "run over" as some have claimed.) That sound and jostle you identify could just be from him jumping back and firing his gun.

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Absolutely. Language and the way our leaders represent things matters. It pisses me off that Noem and Trump said the things they said. Domestic terrorism and the like is a bunch of BS. Lying / exaggerating like this undermines the public trust and that matters (see Portland where the Border Patrol's claims of making a legit traffic stop of a criminal TDA who tried to evade and ram/run over are not believed). Also, the lies/exaggerations are unnecessary to defend the officer - the only thing that matters is if he felt his life was being threatened, not what the motivations of the driver were. It is just stupid on top of stupid to say the things the admin said (in my opinion).

tequila4kapp said:

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We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

And really, this is besides the point. Did he feel threatened by the moving vehicle and was that fear reasonable? That is the operative question.

The video shows him moving toward the other side of the vehicle before it moves. We do not know his motivation. There was no threat at that point...he may have been heading toward the driver side to help the other officer when the driver decided to move the vehicle. We just don't know.

It seems apparent this officer was not agitated, not aggressive, not 'rambo'. Same for the driver. She was politely sitting in the driver's seat, smiled and said "I am not mad at you" as the officer walked by. The wife was a problem. Notice the other observers on the sidewalk. That is what peaceful protesting and observing looks like. Wife was an agitator that contributed to all of this going down.

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(OK, supposedly his body cam).

I come back to my conclusion even MORE strongly - I have not a clue what a jury is going to find but it is clear as day that the ICE training SUCKS and they are not qualified to do what they think they are SUPPOSED to be doing.

Happy to dissect his body cam for the NUMEROUS mistakes that are being made by this team. It is just such poor policing and now someone is dead because of it.

And the directions for the officer approaching the PASSENGER Door (which again feels like it is both bad training and escalatory) are unnecessarily aggressive

Here is what I directly know from my fairly large california city. Warrant execution is done with HIGHLY trained tactical teams that spend YEARS training for these operations. They also (and this is really critical) work VERY hard to secure the area so that people don't get hurt. There are operations where this is NOT the norm (response an immediate threat as a crime is being/just committed but that isn't whwat we are looking at.

The RIGHT thing (but they won't) even if you support active deportation efforts it to pause. Get this in place. Ramp up training. And then deploy (such as into the twin cities) with enough man power to sucure the area and then execute the warrent. If you don't have the legislative tools then take it to congress. But this cowboy amatuer hour has got to stop.

tequila4kapp said:

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We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

And really, this is besides the point. Did he feel threatened by the moving vehicle and was that fear reasonable? That is the operative question.

The video shows him moving toward the other side of the vehicle before it moves. We do not know his motivation. There was no threat at that point...he may have been heading toward the driver side to help the other officer when the driver decided to move the vehicle. We just don't know.

It seems apparent this officer was not agitated, not aggressive, not 'rambo'. Same for the driver. She was politely sitting in the driver's seat, smiled and said "I am not mad at you" as the officer walked by. The wife was a problem. Notice the other observers on the sidewalk. That is what peaceful protesting and observing looks like. Wife was an agitator that contributed to all of this going down.

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The officier yelled "fu**ing bit**" after he shot her 3 times as she was driving off. He was angry and getting back at her and her partner.

He also was an Iraq war vet, chances are he has shot up civilian locals before, the old reflexes seem to be still there.

socaltownie said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

And really, this is besides the point. Did he feel threatened by the moving vehicle and was that fear reasonable? That is the operative question.

The video shows him moving toward the other side of the vehicle before it moves. We do not know his motivation. There was no threat at that point...he may have been heading toward the driver side to help the other officer when the driver decided to move the vehicle. We just don't know.

It seems apparent this officer was not agitated, not aggressive, not 'rambo'. Same for the driver. She was politely sitting in the driver's seat, smiled and said "I am not mad at you" as the officer walked by. The wife was a problem. Notice the other observers on the sidewalk. That is what peaceful protesting and observing looks like. Wife was an agitator that contributed to all of this going down.

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(OK, supposedly his body cam).

I come back to my conclusion even MORE strongly - I have not a clue what a jury is going to find but it is clear as day that the ICE training SUCKS and they are not qualified to do what they think they are SUPPOSED to be doing.

And the directions for the officer approaching the PASSENGER Door (which again feels like it is both bad training and escalatory) are unnecessarily aggressive

Here is what I directly know from my fairly large california city. Warrant execution is done with HIGHLY trained tactical teams that spend YEARS training for these operations. They also (and this is really critical) work VERY hard to secure the area so that people don't get hurt. There are operations where this is NOT the norm (response an immediate threat as a crime is being/just committed but that isn't whwat we are looking at.

The RIGHT thing (but they won't) even if you support active deportation efforts it to pause. Get this in place. Ramp up training. And then deploy (such as into the twin cities) with enough man power to sucure the area and then execute the warrent. If you don't have the legislative tools then take it to congress. But this cowboy amatuer hour has got to stop.

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ICE does not always need a judicial warrant for arrests, especially in public, because Congress granted ICE officers authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) to arrest individuals without a warrant if they have reasonable suspicion that the person is in the U.S. illegally and likely to escape before a warrant could be obtained.

Here is a hypothetical...

Police set up a DUI checkpoint. A bunch of Karen's and Jessica's harrass the folks at the checkpoint because they don't believe people should be stopped to check their sobriety. A driver speeds around the checkpoint. Police stop the vehicle on a nearby side street. Karen and Jessica pull up in their car and repeatedly harass the police cars that have stopped this driver. Karen gets out and drops f bombs at the cops telling them to get out of their neighborhood. Jessica blocks the police officers with the car but they can go slowly go around her because she isn't blocking the entire street...

In this situation, is the resulting chaos the police officers fault for not securing the area? Should Karen and Jessica be arrested? How much resources do our tax dollars need to spend to fight off crazy Karen's and Jessica's?

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tequila4kapp said:

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We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

And really, this is besides the point. Did he feel threatened by the moving vehicle and was that fear reasonable? That is the operative question.

The video shows him moving toward the other side of the vehicle before it moves. We do not know his motivation. There was no threat at that point...he may have been heading toward the driver side to help the other officer when the driver decided to move the vehicle. We just don't know.

It seems apparent this officer was not agitated, not aggressive, not 'rambo'. Same for the driver. She was politely sitting in the driver's seat, smiled and said "I am not mad at you" as the officer walked by. The wife was a problem. Notice the other observers on the sidewalk. That is what peaceful protesting and observing looks like. Wife was an agitator that contributed to all of this going down.

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The officier yelled "fu**ing bit**" after he shot her 3 times as she was driving off. He was angry and getting back at her and her partner.

He also was an Iraq war vet, chances are he has shot up civilian locals before, the old reflexes seem to be still there.

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To be fair, I'd be angry too if someone hit me with their car causing me to have to use lethal force.

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socaltownie said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

And really, this is besides the point. Did he feel threatened by the moving vehicle and was that fear reasonable? That is the operative question.

The video shows him moving toward the other side of the vehicle before it moves. We do not know his motivation. There was no threat at that point...he may have been heading toward the driver side to help the other officer when the driver decided to move the vehicle. We just don't know.

It seems apparent this officer was not agitated, not aggressive, not 'rambo'. Same for the driver. She was politely sitting in the driver's seat, smiled and said "I am not mad at you" as the officer walked by. The wife was a problem. Notice the other observers on the sidewalk. That is what peaceful protesting and observing looks like. Wife was an agitator that contributed to all of this going down.

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(OK, supposedly his body cam).

I come back to my conclusion even MORE strongly - I have not a clue what a jury is going to find but it is clear as day that the ICE training SUCKS and they are not qualified to do what they think they are SUPPOSED to be doing.

And the directions for the officer approaching the PASSENGER Door (which again feels like it is both bad training and escalatory) are unnecessarily aggressive

Here is what I directly know from my fairly large california city. Warrant execution is done with HIGHLY trained tactical teams that spend YEARS training for these operations. They also (and this is really critical) work VERY hard to secure the area so that people don't get hurt. There are operations where this is NOT the norm (response an immediate threat as a crime is being/just committed but that isn't whwat we are looking at.

The RIGHT thing (but they won't) even if you support active deportation efforts it to pause. Get this in place. Ramp up training. And then deploy (such as into the twin cities) with enough man power to sucure the area and then execute the warrent. If you don't have the legislative tools then take it to congress. But this cowboy amatuer hour has got to stop.

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ICE does not always need a judicial warrant for arrests, especially in public, because Congress granted ICE officers authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) to arrest individuals without a warrant if they have reasonable suspicion that the person is in the U.S. illegally and likely to escape before a warrant could be obtained.

Here is a hypothetical...

Police set up a DUI checkpoint. A bunch of Karen's and Jessica's harrass the folks at the checkpoint because they don't believe people should be stopped to check their sobriety. A driver speeds around the checkpoint. Police stop the vehicle on a nearby side street. Karen and Jessica pull up in their car and repeatedly harass the police cars that have stopped this driver. Karen gets out and drops f bombs at the cops telling them to get out of their neighborhood. Jessica blocks the police officers with the car but they can go slowly go around her because she isn't blocking the entire street...

In this situation, is the resulting chaos the police officers fault for not securing the area? Should Karen and Jessica be arrested? How much resources do our tax dollars need to spend to fight off crazy Karen's and Jessica's?

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It IS hypothetic. In your case (I know this) Karen and Jessica are allowed to film but what the PD considers a safe distance. Usually a block. At the VERY closes 1/2 a block. The intersection is CONTAINED. The police then also use a variety of tactics to ensure the cars are slowed and do not pose a danger to either the officers or the other people at the check point. EVERYTHING is well thought out and done with precise care. If there is the need for a physical confrontation with a driver, again - these officers have been well trained.

Or put another way - how often do you see a DUI checkpoint gone bad? In the past year there are DOZENS of arrests by ICE (who is making a FRACTION of arrests) that show horrically bad policing. My "favorites" are the ones that show ice dragging people around by their arms or feet. Police 101. Contain and imobalize the limbs of the suspects ASAP.

In this specific case ICE should have called off its action the moment that they could not properly secure the permiter and ensure the public was a safe distance. If they lack the legal tools to do so, change the law. If they need more people, wait till they have it.,


Lets be honest. It could be Even WORSE. What about when ICE does this amatuer hour and a detention finds an illegal pulling a gun and shooting a third party because ICE is not properly trained how to secure a scene and carry our arrests SAFELY>:?!????!!!

PS. Or in the immediate example in the twin cities. Thank GOD that there was not a pedesttrain or a car coming the other way when she was shot and jammed on the gas pedel. Again - given what they wanted to do the ICE vehicle that passed her should have proceeded down the block and then at a safe distance blocked the street. The officers yelling get out of the car should NOT have approached but needs to stay a safe distance away in case she escalates (such as has a firearm in her car). The other officers on that side of the block should have immediately deployed to ask bystanders/observers to back up to contain the situation. None of that happens as rent a cops cosplay. It is appalling. Do not defend it. It can not be.

PPS.(edit). Jesus ****ing christ. I just slowed it down and looked at the reflection. HE DID have his cell phone out!!!? Think about it - he pulls his gun out all john wayne style and I guess discharges it without dropping his phone????!!!! And why is he filming them this way in the first place? If someone wasn't dead it would be funny. You can not make this **** up.

socaltownie said:

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socaltownie said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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We hear an impact sound and the display from his camera gets all jostled. There is already the video you characterize as grainy. I don't know what more anyone needs. He was struck by the car.

And really, this is besides the point. Did he feel threatened by the moving vehicle and was that fear reasonable? That is the operative question.

The video shows him moving toward the other side of the vehicle before it moves. We do not know his motivation. There was no threat at that point...he may have been heading toward the driver side to help the other officer when the driver decided to move the vehicle. We just don't know.

It seems apparent this officer was not agitated, not aggressive, not 'rambo'. Same for the driver. She was politely sitting in the driver's seat, smiled and said "I am not mad at you" as the officer walked by. The wife was a problem. Notice the other observers on the sidewalk. That is what peaceful protesting and observing looks like. Wife was an agitator that contributed to all of this going down.

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(OK, supposedly his body cam).

I come back to my conclusion even MORE strongly - I have not a clue what a jury is going to find but it is clear as day that the ICE training SUCKS and they are not qualified to do what they think they are SUPPOSED to be doing.

And the directions for the officer approaching the PASSENGER Door (which again feels like it is both bad training and escalatory) are unnecessarily aggressive

Here is what I directly know from my fairly large california city. Warrant execution is done with HIGHLY trained tactical teams that spend YEARS training for these operations. They also (and this is really critical) work VERY hard to secure the area so that people don't get hurt. There are operations where this is NOT the norm (response an immediate threat as a crime is being/just committed but that isn't whwat we are looking at.

The RIGHT thing (but they won't) even if you support active deportation efforts it to pause. Get this in place. Ramp up training. And then deploy (such as into the twin cities) with enough man power to sucure the area and then execute the warrent. If you don't have the legislative tools then take it to congress. But this cowboy amatuer hour has got to stop.

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ICE does not always need a judicial warrant for arrests, especially in public, because Congress granted ICE officers authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) to arrest individuals without a warrant if they have reasonable suspicion that the person is in the U.S. illegally and likely to escape before a warrant could be obtained.

Here is a hypothetical...

Police set up a DUI checkpoint. A bunch of Karen's and Jessica's harrass the folks at the checkpoint because they don't believe people should be stopped to check their sobriety. A driver speeds around the checkpoint. Police stop the vehicle on a nearby side street. Karen and Jessica pull up in their car and repeatedly harass the police cars that have stopped this driver. Karen gets out and drops f bombs at the cops telling them to get out of their neighborhood. Jessica blocks the police officers with the car but they can go slowly go around her because she isn't blocking the entire street...

In this situation, is the resulting chaos the police officers fault for not securing the area? Should Karen and Jessica be arrested? How much resources do our tax dollars need to spend to fight off crazy Karen's and Jessica's?

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It IS hypothetic. In your case (I know this) Karen and Jessica are allowed to film but what the PD considers a safe distance. Usually a block. At the VERY closes 1/2 a block. The intersection is CONTAINED. The police then also use a variety of tactics to ensure the cars are slowed and do not pose a danger to either the officers or the other people at the check point. EVERYTHING is well thought out and done with precise care. If there is the need for a physical confrontation with a driver, again - these officers have been well trained.

Or put another way - how often do you see a DUI checkpoint gone bad? In the past year there are DOZENS of arrests by ICE (who is making a FRACTION of arrests) that show horrically bad policing. My "favorites" are the ones that show ice dragging people around by their arms or feet. Police 101. Contain and imobalize the limbs of the suspects ASAP.

In this specific case ICE should have called off its action the moment that they could not properly secure the permiter and ensure the public was a safe distance. If they lack the legal tools to do so, change the law. If they need more people, wait till they have it.,


Lets be honest. It could be Even WORSE. What about when ICE does this amatuer hour and a detention finds an illegal pulling a gun and shooting a third party because ICE is not properly trained how to secure a scene and carry our arrests SAFELY>:?!????!!!

PS. Or in the immediate example in the twin cities. Thank GOD that there was not a pedesttrain or a car coming the other way when she was shot and jammed on the gas pedel. Again - given what they wanted to do the ICE vehicle that passed her should have proceeded down the block and then at a safe distance blocked the street. The officers yelling get out of the car should NOT have approached but needs to stay a safe distance away in case she escalates (such as has a firearm in her car). The other officers on that side of the block should have immediately deployed to ask bystanders/observers to back up to contain the situation. None of that happens as rent a cops cosplay. It is appalling. Do not defend it. It can not be.

PPS.(edit). Jesus ****ing christ. I just slowed it down and looked at the reflection. HE DID have his cell phone out!!!? Think about it - he pulls his gun out all john wayne style and I guess discharges it without dropping his phone????!!!! And why is he filming them this way in the first place? If someone wasn't dead it would be funny. You can not make this **** up.

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Police secure DUI checkpoints only in a sense that they have enough police presence around it such that officers could stop someone who drives away to avoid the checkpoint. They certainly do not have the resources to secure a perimeter around that stop. If multiple Nancy's and Karen's repeatedly interfered with this process, they would be arrested for obstruction of justice or, at the very least, harassing a police officer or disorderly conduct. I do suppose that if they knew a bunch of angry Karen's and Nancy's were going to disrupt them, they may double their resources such to create a tighter perimeter around fleeing drivers.

In the instance of the arrest or stop of a suspect, I disagree that ICE agents need to wait and essentially let a suspect escape because they don't have the resources to tighten a perimeter to hold back angry, entitled Karen's and Jessica's.

The problem is the public perception of ICE is horrible. Many Minneapolis residents, spurred on by their liberal leaders, treat ICE as invaders. Folks don't treat police at a DUI checkpoint that way.

I missed it earlier in the officer video - the wife says "drive, baby, drive" just before shots fired. Idiot.

tequila4kapp said:

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I missed it earlier in the officer video - the wife says "drive, baby, drive" just before shots fired. Idiot.

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Interesting fact:

The officer's wife immigrated to the U.S. from the Philippines, where her parents were doctors.

🚨 JUST IN: THOUSANDS of leftists chant "KRISTI NOEM WILL HANG" in the middle of New York City

"Save a life, k*ll ICE"

Holy crap.

And Democrats endorse this rhetoric.

THE ORGANIZERS OF THIS MUST BE IMPRISONED! pic.twitter.com/9C2ELkqBYw

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 9, 2026

Calling these people domestic terrorists is a dangerous exaggeration?

socaltownie said:

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PPS.(edit). Jesus ****ing christ. I just slowed it down and looked at the reflection. HE DID have his cell phone out!!!? Think about it - he pulls his gun out all john wayne style and I guess discharges it without dropping his phone????!!!! And why is he filming them this way in the first place? If someone wasn't dead it would be funny. You can not make this **** up.

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Yeah, I think that video is actually the cell phone video, not bodycam. So he was hit so hard that he managed to keep holding his phone? Okay.

oski003 said:

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The problem is the public perception of ICE is horrible. Many Minneapolis residents, spurred on by their liberal leaders, treat ICE as invaders. Folks don't treat police at a DUI checkpoint that way.

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Police at a DUI checkpoint don't run up at you screaming "Get out of the f***ing car!" and try to pull at your door handle while wearing masks, while their "backup" wanders around your car filming you on a cell phone for good social-media content. Maybe you get what you give.

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oski003 said:

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The problem is the public perception of ICE is horrible. Many Minneapolis residents, spurred on by their liberal leaders, treat ICE as invaders. Folks don't treat police at a DUI checkpoint that way.

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Police at a DUI checkpoint don't run up at you screaming "Get out of the f***ing car!" and try to pull at your door handle while wearing masks, while their "backup" wanders around your car filming you on a cell phone for good social-media content. Maybe you get what you give.

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Police stopping someone running away from a DUI checkpoint don't have to deal with lunatic Karen's and Jessica's harassing and obstructing them while they are trying to do their jobs. Why do you assume the office was filming for the purpose of creating good social media content? More rational to believe he was documenting the lunatic behavior of the crazy Karen's and Jessica's so he can show his bosses the crap he has to deal with.

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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The problem is the public perception of ICE is horrible. Many Minneapolis residents, spurred on by their liberal leaders, treat ICE as invaders. Folks don't treat police at a DUI checkpoint that way.

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Police at a DUI checkpoint don't run up at you screaming "Get out of the f***ing car!" and try to pull at your door handle while wearing masks, while their "backup" wanders around your car filming you on a cell phone for good social-media content. Maybe you get what you give.

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Police stopping someone running away from a DUI checkpoint don't have to deal with lunatic Karen's and Jessica's harassing and obstructing them while they are trying to do their jobs. Why do you assume the office was filming for the purpose of creating good social media content? More rational to believe he was documenting the lunatic behavior of the crazy Karen's and Jessica's so he can show his bosses the crap he has to deal with.

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The ICE officers in this case were already yelling at her to "get out of the f***ing car" before anyone tried to run away.

Why do I assume they were filming for social media content? Because they are encouraged to.

Inside ICE’s social media machine creating viral arrest videos - Washington Post https://t.co/HOdWnhV1zL

— @mbalter — investigations and commentary (@mbalter) December 23, 2025

But she did hit someone.

🚨 SEEN IN MINNEAPOLIS — Left-wing agitators threaten the lives of our immigration officials:

“We’re going to fucking find you, and we’re going to fucking kill you! You’re going to fucking die, bitch!”

This is directly inspired by Democrat politicians. pic.twitter.com/JeQyFgaenz

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) January 8, 2026

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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🚨 SEEN IN MINNEAPOLIS — Left-wing agitators threaten the lives of our immigration officials:

“We’re going to fucking find you, and we’re going to fucking kill you! You’re going to fucking die, bitch!”

This is directly inspired by Democrat politicians. pic.twitter.com/JeQyFgaenz

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) January 8, 2026

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The rhetoric from both parties needs to stop. It feels like it comes from the left more, granted I'm likely biased, but both sides have to chill tf out

Experts weigh in on the Minnesota shooting:

“You got a hot-headed dumb cop and then you got entitled Karen doing whatever she does. And that’s a perfect storm for a disaster.”https://t.co/Ii2HK8CypY

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) January 9, 2026

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Pedro Serrano, now retired, was a long-serving New York City police officer, famous for honesty. His recording of an inspector's instruction to target "male blacks, fourteen to twenty" in random street stops helped end the "Stop and Frisk" regime in New York City. Serrano loved the job and took pride in doing good police work, and he felt Stop-and-Frisk wasn't that. His first observation about Renee Good was blunt.

"She should not have been there," Serrano said. "If there's a federal convoy and you're trying to stop it, you're breaking the law. When a cop pulls you over and says to get out the car and you don't, you're breaking the law. When you try to flee from a cop, you're breaking the law. And when you try to run a cop over, you're breaking the law. She shouldn't have paid for it that way. But she was not right, in my opinion."

The ICE officer, identified in reports as Jonathan Ross, also came in for serious criticism from Serrano. New York City officers, like officers in many big cities, are trained not to shoot at moving cars at all, unless there's a direct threat to life. The ICE officer in Serrano's view however violated a more fundamental rule.

"Someone trained this cop wrong," he said. "He walked in front of the car. Never should you ever stand in front of a car. You don't walk behind the trunk, because they put it in reverse, they crush you. In front, they put it in drive and run you over. Who's going to win, you or the car? Not you. This guy, I think he was asking for it, like, 'I dare you to try to run me over so I can shoot you.'"
His summation was brutal:

"You got a hot-headed dumb cop and then you got entitled Karen doing whatever she does. And that's a perfect storm for a disaster."

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Experts weigh in on the Minnesota shooting:

“You got a hot-headed dumb cop and then you got entitled Karen doing whatever she does. And that’s a perfect storm for a disaster.”https://t.co/Ii2HK8CypY

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) January 9, 2026

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Pedro Serrano, now retired, was a long-serving New York City police officer, famous for honesty. His recording of an inspector's instruction to target "male blacks, fourteen to twenty" in random street stops helped end the "Stop and Frisk" regime in New York City. Serrano loved the job and took pride in doing good police work, and he felt Stop-and-Frisk wasn't that. His first observation about Renee Good was blunt.

"She should not have been there," Serrano said. "If there's a federal convoy and you're trying to stop it, you're breaking the law. When a cop pulls you over and says to get out the car and you don't, you're breaking the law. When you try to flee from a cop, you're breaking the law. And when you try to run a cop over, you're breaking the law. She shouldn't have paid for it that way. But she was not right, in my opinion."

The ICE officer, identified in reports as Jonathan Ross, also came in for serious criticism from Serrano. New York City officers, like officers in many big cities, are trained not to shoot at moving cars at all, unless there's a direct threat to life. The ICE officer in Serrano's view however violated a more fundamental rule.

"Someone trained this cop wrong," he said. "He walked in front of the car. Never should you ever stand in front of a car. You don't walk behind the trunk, because they put it in reverse, they crush you. In front, they put it in drive and run you over. Who's going to win, you or the car? Not you. This guy, I think he was asking for it, like, 'I dare you to try to run me over so I can shoot you.'"
His summation was brutal:

"You got a hot-headed dumb cop and then you got entitled Karen doing whatever she does. And that's a perfect storm for a disaster."

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The above is the most sensible take yet, IMO. It's sad but typical these days, I guess, that so many people only see this incident through their own political lens. If we as a country can't get past this way of thinking, we are probably screwed.

Anarchistbear said:

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Talk's cheap

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They might be getting paid to do this.

ICE is hated, you don't need to pay even for sitting in the cold.

Anarchistbear said:

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ICE is hated, you don't need to pay even for sitting in the cold.

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Then why is someone paying them?

tequila4kapp said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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ICE is hated, you don't need to pay even for sitting in the cold.

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Then why is someone paying them?

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Who's paying them?