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In reply to oski003 • 8:51a, 1/23/26
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sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Our Federal Government is now literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.
Clearly using the children as "bait".

This is Donald Trump's America.

This is how you MAGA!



ICE detains 4 Minnesota students, including 5-year-old, school district says


Our Federal Government is NOT literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.

They are NOT using the children as "bait".

If you look at the actual facts in the article, nothing like that happened. They arrested a father and nobody there was willing and able to take the child. Should ICE leave a 5 year old alone?

It looks like you got DUPED again. SAD.

The family's lawyer claims they were here legally as asylum petitioners.



Let's see what shakes out in court before we make any definitive statements here. Nothing the government says on these matters should be taken at face value, it's pretty clear.

Personally, I think our government could be using more humane methods than taking a pre-schooler out of his classroom and then trying to arrest his parents in front of him while they try to recover their child.


I appreciate that, unlike Diablowags, you posted something factual, which is that the family CLAIMS they are here legally. However, you then write that they took the preschooler out of school, which appears to have zero evidence supporting it. Please stop being DUPED by outrageous media sources.

My mistake, they took the kid on his way home from school and tried to make him watch his parents' arrests. Big difference.
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9:16a, 1/23/26
I am reposting this from another Administrator because I cannot say it any better myself:

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You're wasting our time moderating all your little inane insults.

Make your point about whatever subject you post about instead of making everything you disagree with personal.

We don't have time for this nonsense. Would you like to be permanently banned because that's the next step. And as has made clear, this whole forum can go away so that would be the step after that if people can't manage to abide by our simple rules.

Exercise some self control. If you disagree with what someone says, give a level-headed response. Quit making it personal and petty and grow up. If someone makes their point in a snarky way you don't like, you can take issue with it. Just don't result to silly personal insults.

You're wasting our time and polluting our forums.

I really try to moderate this forum with a very judicious use of penalties. But the constant toddler-like personal attacks and insults is mind numbingly old; not to mention the DMs telling me how the other people are doing X, Y and Z but ignoring your own part in this. There are 4-6 of you who seemingly cannot control yourselves. This is your notice - a heavier hand is coming.
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In reply to sycasey • 12:12p, 1/23/26
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Our Federal Government is now literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.
Clearly using the children as "bait".

This is Donald Trump's America.

This is how you MAGA!



ICE detains 4 Minnesota students, including 5-year-old, school district says


Our Federal Government is NOT literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.

They are NOT using the children as "bait".

If you look at the actual facts in the article, nothing like that happened. They arrested a father and nobody there was willing and able to take the child. Should ICE leave a 5 year old alone?

It looks like you got DUPED again. SAD.

The family's lawyer claims they were here legally as asylum petitioners.



Let's see what shakes out in court before we make any definitive statements here. Nothing the government says on these matters should be taken at face value, it's pretty clear.

Personally, I think our government could be using more humane methods than taking a pre-schooler out of his classroom and then trying to arrest his parents in front of him while they try to recover their child.


I appreciate that, unlike Diablowags, you posted something factual, which is that the family CLAIMS they are here legally. However, you then write that they took the preschooler out of school, which appears to have zero evidence supporting it. Please stop being DUPED by outrageous media sources.

My mistake, they took the kid on his way home from school and tried to make him watch his parents' arrests. Big difference.


Oh come one, you are acting like ICE took a 5 year old child on his way home from school. No, they arrested someone suspected of being an illegal alien from Ecuador, when they were outside their home walking with their child. The father fled and the mother refused to come out and take the child. Given your fondness for full judicial warrants to enter houses, you can't reasonably expect them to wait until the father and child went inside, right?
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In reply to SBGold • 12:13p, 1/23/26
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This


Wrong.
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In reply to oski003 • 12:43p, 1/23/26
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Our Federal Government is now literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.
Clearly using the children as "bait".

This is Donald Trump's America.

This is how you MAGA!



ICE detains 4 Minnesota students, including 5-year-old, school district says


Our Federal Government is NOT literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.

They are NOT using the children as "bait".

If you look at the actual facts in the article, nothing like that happened. They arrested a father and nobody there was willing and able to take the child. Should ICE leave a 5 year old alone?

It looks like you got DUPED again. SAD.

The family's lawyer claims they were here legally as asylum petitioners.



Let's see what shakes out in court before we make any definitive statements here. Nothing the government says on these matters should be taken at face value, it's pretty clear.

Personally, I think our government could be using more humane methods than taking a pre-schooler out of his classroom and then trying to arrest his parents in front of him while they try to recover their child.


I appreciate that, unlike Diablowags, you posted something factual, which is that the family CLAIMS they are here legally. However, you then write that they took the preschooler out of school, which appears to have zero evidence supporting it. Please stop being DUPED by outrageous media sources.

My mistake, they took the kid on his way home from school and tried to make him watch his parents' arrests. Big difference.


Oh come one, you are acting like ICE took a 5 year old child on his way home from school. No, they arrested someone suspected of being an illegal alien from Ecuador, when they were outside their home walking with their child. The father fled and the mother refused to come out and take the child. Given your fondness for full judicial warrants to enter houses, you can't reasonably expect them to wait until the father and child went inside, right?

The family disputes this accounting of events, so I guess we will have to wait and see.
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In reply to sycasey • 12:53p, 1/23/26
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Our Federal Government is now literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.
Clearly using the children as "bait".

This is Donald Trump's America.

This is how you MAGA!



ICE detains 4 Minnesota students, including 5-year-old, school district says


Our Federal Government is NOT literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.

They are NOT using the children as "bait".

If you look at the actual facts in the article, nothing like that happened. They arrested a father and nobody there was willing and able to take the child. Should ICE leave a 5 year old alone?

It looks like you got DUPED again. SAD.

The family's lawyer claims they were here legally as asylum petitioners.



Let's see what shakes out in court before we make any definitive statements here. Nothing the government says on these matters should be taken at face value, it's pretty clear.

Personally, I think our government could be using more humane methods than taking a pre-schooler out of his classroom and then trying to arrest his parents in front of him while they try to recover their child.


I appreciate that, unlike Diablowags, you posted something factual, which is that the family CLAIMS they are here legally. However, you then write that they took the preschooler out of school, which appears to have zero evidence supporting it. Please stop being DUPED by outrageous media sources.

My mistake, they took the kid on his way home from school and tried to make him watch his parents' arrests. Big difference.


Oh come one, you are acting like ICE took a 5 year old child on his way home from school. No, they arrested someone suspected of being an illegal alien from Ecuador, when they were outside their home walking with their child. The father fled and the mother refused to come out and take the child. Given your fondness for full judicial warrants to enter houses, you can't reasonably expect them to wait until the father and child went inside, right?

The family disputes this accounting of events, so I guess we will have to wait and see.


Okay, hopefully everyone on this forum understands that five year old kids don't walk home from school by themselves. If they did, that would be grounds for several government employees to take a child from their parents.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 1:37p, 1/23/26
tequila4kapp said:
I am reposting this from another Administrator because I cannot say it any better myself:

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You're wasting our time moderating all your little inane insults.

Make your point about whatever subject you post about instead of making everything you disagree with personal.

We don't have time for this nonsense. Would you like to be permanently banned because that's the next step. And as has made clear, this whole forum can go away so that would be the step after that if people can't manage to abide by our simple rules.

Exercise some self control. If you disagree with what someone says, give a level-headed response. Quit making it personal and petty and grow up. If someone makes their point in a snarky way you don't like, you can take issue with it. Just don't result to silly personal insults.

You're wasting our time and polluting our forums.

I really try to moderate this forum with a very judicious use of penalties. But the constant toddler-like personal attacks and insults is mind numbingly old; not to mention the DMs telling me how the other people are doing X, Y and Z but ignoring your own part in this. There are 4-6 of you who seemingly cannot control yourselves. This is your notice - a heavier hand is coming.

The 4-6 probably each read what you wrote and thought, "Yeah! Those 4-6 bug me and need to get smacked down!"
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In reply to Big C • 1:39p, 1/23/26

Case in point, I'm probably one of 'em (^) and have no clue that you were referring to me.
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In reply to oski003 • 1:40p, 1/23/26
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Our Federal Government is now literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.
Clearly using the children as "bait".

This is Donald Trump's America.

This is how you MAGA!



ICE detains 4 Minnesota students, including 5-year-old, school district says


Our Federal Government is NOT literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.

They are NOT using the children as "bait".

If you look at the actual facts in the article, nothing like that happened. They arrested a father and nobody there was willing and able to take the child. Should ICE leave a 5 year old alone?

It looks like you got DUPED again. SAD.

The family's lawyer claims they were here legally as asylum petitioners.



Let's see what shakes out in court before we make any definitive statements here. Nothing the government says on these matters should be taken at face value, it's pretty clear.

Personally, I think our government could be using more humane methods than taking a pre-schooler out of his classroom and then trying to arrest his parents in front of him while they try to recover their child.


I appreciate that, unlike Diablowags, you posted something factual, which is that the family CLAIMS they are here legally. However, you then write that they took the preschooler out of school, which appears to have zero evidence supporting it. Please stop being DUPED by outrageous media sources.

My mistake, they took the kid on his way home from school and tried to make him watch his parents' arrests. Big difference.

Oh come one, you are acting like ICE took a 5 year old child on his way home from school. No, they arrested someone suspected of being an illegal alien from Ecuador, when they were outside their home walking with their child. The father fled and the mother refused to come out and take the child. Given your fondness for full judicial warrants to enter houses, you can't reasonably expect them to wait until the father and child went inside, right?

The family disputes this accounting of events, so I guess we will have to wait and see.

Okay, hopefully everyone on this forum understands that five year old kids don't walk home from school by themselves. If they did, that would be grounds for several government employees to take a child from their parents.

I walked home from kindergarten with friends, but that was a long time ago and a different world.
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100%
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In reply to SBGold • 3:25p, 1/23/26
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100%


Pretty sure you just proved his point.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:59p, 1/23/26
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Our Federal Government is now literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.
Clearly using the children as "bait".

This is Donald Trump's America.

This is how you MAGA!



ICE detains 4 Minnesota students, including 5-year-old, school district says


Our Federal Government is NOT literally kidnapping kids on their way home from pre-school.

They are NOT using the children as "bait".

If you look at the actual facts in the article, nothing like that happened. They arrested a father and nobody there was willing and able to take the child. Should ICE leave a 5 year old alone?

It looks like you got DUPED again. SAD.

The family's lawyer claims they were here legally as asylum petitioners.



Let's see what shakes out in court before we make any definitive statements here. Nothing the government says on these matters should be taken at face value, it's pretty clear.

Personally, I think our government could be using more humane methods than taking a pre-schooler out of his classroom and then trying to arrest his parents in front of him while they try to recover their child.


I appreciate that, unlike Diablowags, you posted something factual, which is that the family CLAIMS they are here legally. However, you then write that they took the preschooler out of school, which appears to have zero evidence supporting it. Please stop being DUPED by outrageous media sources.

My mistake, they took the kid on his way home from school and tried to make him watch his parents' arrests. Big difference.


Oh come one, you are acting like ICE took a 5 year old child on his way home from school. No, they arrested someone suspected of being an illegal alien from Ecuador, when they were outside their home walking with their child. The father fled and the mother refused to come out and take the child. Given your fondness for full judicial warrants to enter houses, you can't reasonably expect them to wait until the father and child went inside, right?

The family disputes this accounting of events, so I guess we will have to wait and see.


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In reply to sycasey • 1:53a, 1/24/26
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They are hiring illegals as sheriffs who lied to get their jobs and this clown is acting like we're gonna deport an angel. If you are not a citizen you should NEVER get a job as law enforcement. That's some of the most ridiculous garbage I've read in awhile.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:36a, 1/24/26
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She was returned to her mother.
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8:07a, 1/24/26
ICE rolled into my town in Maine where they must have heard the "worst of the worst" are. Plenty of domestic calls, meth heads and traffic stops from the locals though maybe a murder or so each year. Picture lots of old white people. The town where I leave my wallet, keys and stuff in car when running errands. It's the town where the ICE guy said "I'll be back for your family". Small world. It's interesting to see what people are saying on the town and Mayors FB page. One problem you are seeing is zero communication between ICE and local authorities. Nobody knows what the "plan" is, because there is none and it's chaotic.
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 8:13a, 1/24/26
Adding to that: ITS THE MIDDLE OF A MAJOR ICE STORM.
The last thing people need right now is stressing the services when people are trying to clear the roads and get to work or get last minute supplies at Market Basket or Mardens.
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Illegal French Canadian loggers must be stopped
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 8:16a, 1/24/26
Have you seen those Canadian loggers at Old Orchard Beach? You might have second thoughts.
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Border Patrol agents deployed pepper spray while holding down a man on Wednesday in Minneapolis. Credit...Vincent Alban/The New York Times
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Illegal French Canadian loggers must be stopped

….part of the crackdown on LGBTQ.

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In reply to sycasey • 8:36a, 1/24/26
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He had a gun and attempted to pull it out while being apprehended. This outcome would have happened in any law enforcement situation. It's sad that this person was shot but you're not presenting all the facts here in this situation

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In reply to sycasey • 8:36a, 1/24/26
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shooter pulls gun at 18 second mark and then slinks off towards camera
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sycasey said:


shooter pulls gun at 18 second mark and then slinks off towards camera


Multiple ICE officers shot and it's because the person tried to pull a gun out on them. Another sad but justified shoot
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 8:42a, 1/24/26
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sycasey said:


shooter pulls gun at 18 second mark and then slinks off towards camera


I'm not sure that ICE agent is the one that shot. The gun fire doesn't appear to happen until after he's already turned and moving away. I don't claim this as fact, just what my eyes and ears see and hear
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 8:44a, 1/24/26
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cal83dls79 said:
sycasey said:


shooter pulls gun at 18 second mark and then slinks off towards camera


Multiple ICE officers shot and it's because the person tried to pull a gun out on them. Another sad but justified shoot
haven't seen that video of him drawing the weapon. Was it a legal firearm?
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8:45a, 1/24/26
ICE is clearly VIOLATING the 4th Amendment
But they don't care.

So much for the "law and order" party.
Its now the Nazi Party.

Trump voters love this violation of our Constitution.
They love supporting a corrupt lawless felon.


Experts say new ICE policy on home entries violates Fourth Amendment

https://share.google/TTPoDTdRZIPrXSU7I

ICE says its officers can forcibly enter homes during immigration operations without judicial warrants: 2025 memo

https://share.google/Yhx1qwJuEmQFw80CS
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 8:47a, 1/24/26
cal83dls79 said:
BearlySane88 said:
cal83dls79 said:
sycasey said:


shooter pulls gun at 18 second mark and then slinks off towards camera


Multiple ICE officers shot and it's because the person tried to pull a gun out on them. Another sad but justified shoot
haven't seen that video of him drawing the weapon. Was it a legal firearm?


Doesn't matter if it was legal or not if he tried to use it against law enforcement. I agree you can't see if he pulls it from this angle.
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