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Big C said:

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So many things Americans were sick of...

- ICE raids resulting in US citizens being killed... then blaming the citizens
- willy-nilly tariffs
- Elon Musk and other billionaires
- the idea of unfettered AI and the data centers
- prices going up (hey, it happens), but then Trump's talking "ballroom"
- mean "Quiet, Piggy" stuff
- promising less war, then unilaterally going after Iran

Partial list.

Now we'll see what the Dems can do. I'm glad we have the chance but I'm not super-confident about what'll happen. Whatever it is, it couldn't be half as bad as the last two years.

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I think a lot of the things on your list could have been ignored by voters if the war in Iran was quicker or didn't happen and in turn gas prices didn't go up. Those two really killed Trump

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The Iran War was the nail in the coffin (as I said it would be when it started), but his approval was already falling because of all that other stuff.

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It was falling but not enough to cause what we saw last night. Dems would have taken the house like normal midterms and republicans would have kept the senate. Add in Iran and gas prices and that did them in.

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There was definitely a compounding effect and Iran was the last big thing.

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Not arguing that, I just don't think you would have seen what we saw last night otherwise.

I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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Big C said:

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So many things Americans were sick of...

- ICE raids resulting in US citizens being killed... then blaming the citizens
- willy-nilly tariffs
- Elon Musk and other billionaires
- the idea of unfettered AI and the data centers
- prices going up (hey, it happens), but then Trump's talking "ballroom"
- mean "Quiet, Piggy" stuff
- promising less war, then unilaterally going after Iran

Partial list.

Now we'll see what the Dems can do. I'm glad we have the chance but I'm not super-confident about what'll happen. Whatever it is, it couldn't be half as bad as the last two years.

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I think a lot of the things on your list could have been ignored by voters if the war in Iran was quicker or didn't happen and in turn gas prices didn't go up. Those two really killed Trump

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The Iran War was the nail in the coffin (as I said it would be when it started), but his approval was already falling because of all that other stuff.

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It was falling but not enough to cause what we saw last night. Dems would have taken the house like normal midterms and republicans would have kept the senate. Add in Iran and gas prices and that did them in.

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There was definitely a compounding effect and Iran was the last big thing.

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Riddle me this, how can it be the "last big thing" if it was simultaneously "a small price to pay"? The blowout happened for so many reasons that political scientists will study this for years. The blowout shattered a number midterm records. Per exit polls the second most important issue after the economy was "concern for democracy". His approval rating dropped to 31 pct. Trumps performance on the road was his death march as he was obviously lost and out of touch, on the eve of the election he's on about the reflecting pool, and today he's giving an update on the ball room after his party just took a shellacking.

Excellent post DLS!
We are talking about Kansas having a Democrat for their Senator for the first time in 94 YEARS!

And Trump is yammering about the Ballroom today.
lol

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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Big C said:

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So many things Americans were sick of...

- ICE raids resulting in US citizens being killed... then blaming the citizens
- willy-nilly tariffs
- Elon Musk and other billionaires
- the idea of unfettered AI and the data centers
- prices going up (hey, it happens), but then Trump's talking "ballroom"
- mean "Quiet, Piggy" stuff
- promising less war, then unilaterally going after Iran

Partial list.

Now we'll see what the Dems can do. I'm glad we have the chance but I'm not super-confident about what'll happen. Whatever it is, it couldn't be half as bad as the last two years.

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I think a lot of the things on your list could have been ignored by voters if the war in Iran was quicker or didn't happen and in turn gas prices didn't go up. Those two really killed Trump

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The Iran War was the nail in the coffin (as I said it would be when it started), but his approval was already falling because of all that other stuff.

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It was falling but not enough to cause what we saw last night. Dems would have taken the house like normal midterms and republicans would have kept the senate. Add in Iran and gas prices and that did them in.

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There was definitely a compounding effect and Iran was the last big thing.

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Riddle me this, how can it be the "last big thing" if it was simultaneously "a small price to pay"? The blowout happened for so many reasons that political scientists will study this for years. The blowout shattered a number midterm records. Per exit polls the second most important issue after the economy was "concern for democracy". His approval rating dropped to 31 pct. Trumps performance on the road was his death march as he was obviously lost and out of touch, on the eve of the election he's on about the reflecting pool, and today he's giving an update on the ball room after his party just took a shellacking.

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It was a small price to pay for me and many, clearly not for the bulk of voting Americans. Again this wasn't about party, it was about Trump. This isn't because democrats policies are so amazing, it's because people were done with Trump's policies. Markets love it though, they love when a government is split and can't make any decisions.

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I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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It's not lawfare. It's the law.

The American people didn't just grow tired of his Policies.
They also grew tired of his hate and division.

American's are good people.
They know decency when they see it.

Donald Trump has no decency.

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I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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IMO they should be careful and targeted about this. I think people do want some accountability and investigations but it shouldn't be the main message.

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I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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It's not lawfare. It's the law.

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Lmao I love how that works for you when it's your side.

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The American people didn't just grow tired of his Policies.
They also grew tired of his hate and division.

American's are good people.
They know decency when they see it.

Donald Trump has no decency.

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I disagree. America voted for him twice.

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I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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IMO they should be careful and targeted about this. I think people do want some accountability and investigations but it shouldn't be the main message.

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Agreed. I'm not saying all accountability should be viewed as lawfare or retaliation but when the first posts a dem is making is "Get a lawyer!" or something to that ilk, it sends the wrong message to most Americans.

If this is what dems focus on for two years, they will see the pendulum swing back in the other direction during next elections. Moderates voted for dems to make life better, not spend countless hours and dollars on frivolous investigations.

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DiabloWags said:

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The American people didn't just grow tired of his Policies.
They also grew tired of his hate and division.

American's are good people.
They know decency when they see it.

Donald Trump has no decency.

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I disagree. America voted for him twice.

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And they got duped.

The American public's REPUDIATION of all things Donald Trump was on FULL DISPLAY last night.
The Republican Party got trashed and every one of his personally picked candidates were destroyed.


Records were broken.

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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The American people didn't just grow tired of his Policies.
They also grew tired of his hate and division.

American's are good people.
They know decency when they see it.

Donald Trump has no decency.

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I disagree. America voted for him twice.

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And they got duped.

The American public's REPUDIATION of all things Donald Trump was on FULL DISPLAY last night.
The Republican Party got trashed and every one of his personally picked candidates were destroyed.


Records were broken.

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That doesn't really negate what I was saying but okay. Voters knew who Trump was, it's his policies that pushed voters away not his "hate"

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BearlySane88 said:

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I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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It's not lawfare. It's the law.

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Lmao I love how that works for you when it's your side.

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Juries and backpedaling prosecutors are the ones who showed Republicans were engaged in lawfare and not the law. That hasn't been true for the pursuit of Democrats following the law.

DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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The American people didn't just grow tired of his Policies.
They also grew tired of his hate and division.

American's are good people.
They know decency when they see it.

Donald Trump has no decency.

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I disagree. America voted for him twice.

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And they got duped.

The American public's REPUDIATION of all things Donald Trump was on FULL DISPLAY last night.
The Republican Party got trashed and every one of his personally picked candidates were destroyed.


Records were broken.

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That doesn't really negate what I was saying but okay. Voters knew who Trump was, it's his policies that pushed voters away not his "hate"

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I don't fully agree with that.

His first term was totally different than his second term.
His second term was full of revenge, hate, division, lies, pardoning felons and using his office to make money.

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You saw plenty of people still embracing him before gas prices went up. It's fair to say it was some of both but I think Trump would have been able to keep enough support if it wasn't for gas prices

BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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The American people didn't just grow tired of his Policies.
They also grew tired of his hate and division.

American's are good people.
They know decency when they see it.

Donald Trump has no decency.

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I disagree. America voted for him twice.

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America voted for him once and voted against him twice.

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BearlySane88 said:

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I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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It's not lawfare. It's the law.

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Lmao I love how that works for you when it's your side.

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Juries and backpedaling prosecutors are the ones who showed Republicans were engaged in lawfare and not the law. That hasn't been true for the pursuit of Democrats following the law.

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Mhmmm if you say so

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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The American people didn't just grow tired of his Policies.
They also grew tired of his hate and division.

American's are good people.
They know decency when they see it.

Donald Trump has no decency.

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I disagree. America voted for him twice.

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America voted for him once and voted against him twice.

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Semantics but okay! The most recent time America voted for him, they knew who he was and that wasn't the issue come midterms.

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BearlySane88 said:

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dajo9 said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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I've already seen way too many lawfare posts from dem representatives. So much for affordability being their big issue. The next two years will be such a waste because the far left portion of congress still won't be able to get Trump out of their mouths.

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It's not lawfare. It's the law.

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Lmao I love how that works for you when it's your side.

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Juries and backpedaling prosecutors are the ones who showed Republicans were engaged in lawfare and not the law. That hasn't been true for the pursuit of Democrats following the law.

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Mhmmm if you say so

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The record says so

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Mhmmm if you say so!

People saw right through the hate and division of the Stephen Miller's of the world.
His wife is one piece of work. I guess you'd have to be if you were married to Stephen.

She didn't even vote.
Claimed she didn't want to be doxxed.

Never mind that she and her husband live on a fortified military base in Northern Virginia.







Katie Miller blames MAGA moms for midterms massacre

You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

The comments by Katie Miller are weird.

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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I've long posted here that tariffs are a TAX.
I've long posted here that this war of "choice" was not helpful to the economy.

Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.
If you were a one issue voter and all you cared about was Immigration then I guess you are HAPPY.
Everything else was a lie.


America First = Lie
Peace President = Lie
Balancing the Budget Deficit = Lie
Balancing the Trade Deficit = Lie
Ending the War in Ukraine = Lie
Bring Down Gas and Grocery Prices = Lie
Creating Something Better than Obamacare = Lie

DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

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That's great but your post about Miller was attacking something that most Americans support and applaud Trump for. That wasn't the issue that swayed the midterms

BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

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That's great but your post about Miller was attacking something that most Americans support and applaud Trump for. That wasn't the issue that swayed the midterms

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I would like to see a Poll that shows how "happy" Americans were with the way ICE went about their business - - - no matter how harsh the means justified the end. I don't think that most Christian folk were happy seeing families and their children put into "cages" . . . or people deported back to countries where they never came from.

DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

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That's great but your post about Miller was attacking something that most Americans support and applaud Trump for. That wasn't the issue that swayed the midterms

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I would like to see a Poll that shows how "happy" Americans were with the way ICE went about their business - - - no matter how harsh the means justified the end.

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Polling showed Americans trusted republicans over democrats on immigration issues, even right before the midterms. Once again, immigration wasn't what caused vast swings across the country.

https://political.org/2026/11/01/nbc-poll-republicans-hold-edge-on-immigration-and-economy-but-democrats-lead-generic-ballot-two-days-before-midterms/

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

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That's great but your post about Miller was attacking something that most Americans support and applaud Trump for. That wasn't the issue that swayed the midterms

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I would like to see a Poll that shows how "happy" Americans were with the way ICE went about their business - - - no matter how harsh the means justified the end.

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Polling showed Americans trusted republicans over democrats on immigration issues, even right before the midterms.

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It looks like, once again, the polls undercounted Democrats

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

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That's great but your post about Miller was attacking something that most Americans support and applaud Trump for. That wasn't the issue that swayed the midterms

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I would like to see a Poll that shows how "happy" Americans were with the way ICE went about their business - - - no matter how harsh the means justified the end.

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Polling showed Americans trusted republicans over democrats on immigration issues, even right before the midterms.

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It looks like, once again, the polls undercounted Democrats

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Their congressional poll done at the same time was about right actually.

BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

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That's great but your post about Miller was attacking something that most Americans support and applaud Trump for. That wasn't the issue that swayed the midterms

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I would like to see a Poll that shows how "happy" Americans were with the way ICE went about their business - - - no matter how harsh the means justified the end.

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Polling showed Americans trusted republicans over democrats on immigration issues, even right before the midterms. Once again, immigration wasn't what caused vast swings across the country.

https://political.org/2026/11/01/nbc-poll-republicans-hold-edge-on-immigration-and-economy-but-democrats-lead-generic-ballot-two-days-before-midterms/

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In April of 2026, the Poll of 12,100 voters by the Center for American Progress and Blue Rose Research revealed a MASSIVE DISCONNECT between the Trump Administration's maximalist enforcement tactics and voter appetite:










RELEASE: Voters Demand Balanced 'Both/And' Immigration Approach, Rejecting Enforcement-Only Extremes, New Poll Reveals - Center for American Progress

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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You're turning this win into something it isn't. It's not just you, it's many in the left. This isn't a mandate against all Trump policies. American's still put republicans above democrats when it comes to immigration policy in recent polls.

This is mandate against affordability issues. That's where democrats need to focus their attention

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Immigration is the only issue that he fulfilled his promise to voters on.

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That's why I said your last post was making the midterms about something that it's not. Even Talarico came out this morning and said Trump has done a better job with the border than the previous administration did.

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I'm not a ONE ISSUE voter.
Neither are the majority of Americans.

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That's great but your post about Miller was attacking something that most Americans support and applaud Trump for. That wasn't the issue that swayed the midterms

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I would like to see a Poll that shows how "happy" Americans were with the way ICE went about their business - - - no matter how harsh the means justified the end.

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Polling showed Americans trusted republicans over democrats on immigration issues, even right before the midterms.

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It looks like, once again, the polls undercounted Democrats

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Their congressional poll done at the same time was about right actually.

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They polled a national House vote favoring Dems by 7 points. Have you seen actual results for that yet? I haven't.