SoFlaBear said:

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RE: Superconference. Start with the best 5 of the of the current Big 12 in terms of fit and geography - TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma State. Kansas, and Kansas State. Then cherry-pick the Mountain West - Boise State, UNLV, San Diego State, BYU, and Air Force.

I'd might consider Colorado State, Fresno State, SMU, Iowa State and Hawaii.

If you go with our projected 10 and the 10 I'd add, we could create two 10-team divisions with a conference playoff.

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sycasey said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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Add San Diego St, Fresno, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, BYU?

A lot of those schools still have animosity towards us though

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They'll lighten up after they beat us a few times.

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Can't wait until Sonny Dykes' TCU team destroys us a few times.

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wifeisafurd said:

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sycasey said:

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SoFlaBear said:

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I have neither tweet nor article to cite. I will tell you what I'm hearing from a friend up in Oregon.

1) Word is that UCLA is already experiencing some buyers remorse over the B1G as the reality of the expense of coast-to coast travel for all of the many non-revenue sports may make the deal not-as-sweet as first imagined.

2) He keeps hearing a rumor that Jeff Bezos/Prime has some interest in forming and broadcasting a Western superconference to rival the B1G and SEC.

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All of that just seems to make it more likely that the B1G further raids the Pac-12 and takes Oregon, Washington, Cal, and Stanford as has been speculated on in the media.

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That is exactly right. Amazon also is talking with the B1G, and the additional Amazon money would be money the B1G could use to reward everyone, including the schools at the large media markets in the PAC, more money.

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SoFlaBear said:

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RE: Superconference. Start with the best 5 of the of the current Big 12 in terms of fit and geography - TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma State. Kansas, and Kansas State. Then cherry-pick the Mountain West - Boise State, UNLV, San Diego State, BYU, and Air Force.

I'd might consider Colorado State, Fresno State, SMU, Iowa State and Hawaii.

If you go with our projected 10 and the 10 I'd add, we could create two 10-team divisions with a conference playoff.

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SoFlaBear said:

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I have neither tweet nor article to cite. I will tell you what I'm hearing from a friend up in Oregon.

1) Word is that UCLA is already experiencing some buyers remorse over the B1G as the reality of the expense of coast-to coast travel for all of the many non-revenue sports may make the deal not-as-sweet as first imagined.

2) He keeps hearing a rumor that Jeff Bezos/Prime has some interest in forming and broadcasting a Western superconference to rival the B1G and SEC.

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HoopDreams said:

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I heard a rumor that Stanford was considering going independent, that was probably just blind speculation

but it makes sense on several levels, and probably is at least a discussion within Stanford University

1. they can do their own thing as their admin does appear to think differently than many FB schools
2. they can wait till ND goes to B1G and join them without having to time it with the end of a Pac10 contract
3. they are a big enough name that making a good schedule would be easy
4. they could keep the ND game, USC game and Big Game
5. despite their last 3 poor seasons, they continue to recruit well per ESPN's top 300 recruit list

My guess is the only way this will happen is if Oregon and UW go to the B1G, blowing up the Pac10

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HoopDreams said:

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I heard a rumor that Stanford was considering going independent, that was probably just blind speculation

but it makes sense on several levels, and probably is at least a discussion within Stanford University

1. they can do their own thing as their admin does appear to think differently than many FB schools
2. they can wait till ND goes to B1G and join them without having to time it with the end of a Pac10 contract
3. they are a big enough name that making a good schedule would be easy
4. they could keep the ND game, USC game and Big Game
5. despite their last 3 poor seasons, they continue to recruit well per ESPN's top 300 recruit list

My guess is the only way this will happen is if Oregon and UW go to the B1G, blowing up the Pac10

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calumnus said:

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Flights to Hawaii from the Bay Area are easier than to Pullman.

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GMP said:

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Golden One said:

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calumnus said:

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Flights to Hawaii from the Bay Area are easier than to Pullman.

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You've got to be kidding!! The flight on Southwest to Spokane is 2 hours, and the drive from Spokane to Pullman is about 1 hour, 45 minutes.

The flight from Oakland to Honolulu is 5 1/2 hours.

It's much quicker to get to Pullman than to Hawaii.

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He said easier, not faster. Your numbers also assume perfect weather (and clear roads) into and out of Spokane/Pullman, which is not a sure thing (particularly for winter and spring sports).

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Cal_79 said:

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How would adding Hawaii work for hoops?

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dimitrig said:

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I am not in favor of adding Hawaii, but how do the schools in its current conference handle the travel?

It seems to be a solved problem.

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Hawaii isn't a realistic option. Setting aside whether it's easy for people to fly to from the Bay Area, it's still the equivalent of a cross country flight for us and there are a lot of Pac-12 schools not in the bay area for whom it's even longer than cross country.

That's without taking into the fact that Hawaii is astronomically expensive, particularly in the fall winter. Hotels, etc. Can't imagine schools footing the bill for non-revenue sports. If we're just talking about football, I guess it's less insane, but I still don't think it is workable. There isn't any demand for football games that start in the middle of the night east coast time and I highly doubt that inventory will be a valuable addition to media rights.

I am a big calumnus fan but I think this is based more on his love of hawaii (the state) than it is the rational basis for adding U of H to this conference.

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dimitrig said:

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I am not in favor of adding Hawaii, but how do the schools in its current conference handle the travel?

It seems to be a solved problem.

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MrGPAC said:

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The networks are going to be determining who we do and don't add.

Right now the Pac12 comissioner is giving a list of schools and what they do with the contract and determining how hard he goes after each one.

If we are worth 500 million as is, and 525 million with hawaii, we aren't adding hawaii. If we are worth 600 million with hawaii we are probably adding them.

Traveling logistics and cultural fit be damned...this is all about the money.

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MrGPAC said:

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The networks are going to be determining who we do and don't add.

Right now the Pac12 comissioner is giving a list of schools and what they do with the contract and determining how hard he goes after each one.

If we are worth 500 million as is, and 525 million with hawaii, we aren't adding hawaii. If we are worth 600 million with hawaii we are probably adding them.

Traveling logistics and cultural fit be damned...this is all about the money.

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southseasbear said:

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If we have to add schools, I'm favorably inclined toward UNLV, Nevada, Colorado State (rumored to be in line to receive the next invite to the prestigious AAU), and/or SD State.

Schools I don't wnat to see include Fresno State, Boise State, and BYU.

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