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In reply to Johnfox • 8:21a, 2/16/25
Johnfox said:
Yes and my point is I can care less about who picks lettuce. Nothing wrong with picking

And the point that I made earlier about undocumented immigrants doing the picking that supports a $59 BILLION DOLLAR Agri-Business in the State of California flew right over your head like the "quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog".

In case it still hasn't registered with you, WHO is going to do the picking of crops if undocumented migrant farm workers are all deported as Trump wants?

Did you ever consider that?

Or do you think a bunch of WHITE FOLKS will be doing the picking?
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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:42a, 2/16/25
3 2 1 lies and deflection incoming … it can't possibly answer that truthfully because that would entail a level of self assessment that it will never be strong enough to execute.
"All types of knowledge, ultimately mean self-knowledge."
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In reply to going4roses • 11:09a, 2/16/25
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Smh
what?
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In reply to smh • 12:13p, 2/16/25
smh said:
going4roses said:
Smh
what?


https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/108235/replies/2467983
Smh was directed at this post
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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:33p, 2/16/25
Google is our friend.

The H-2A program allows U.S. employers to bring foreign workers to the USA to perform temporary agricultural work. The program is part of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
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In reply to movielover • 1:38p, 2/16/25
movielover said:
Google is our friend.

The H-2A program allows U.S. employers to bring foreign workers to the USA to perform temporary agricultural work. The program is part of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

It's not the cheapest solution for Farmers given that they're required to pay for flights and transportation, housing, meals, as well as pay the workers, who in return, earn a living to provide for their families back home. Legal costs as well.

$18.25 an hour picking apples in Minnesota.

H-2A program visa worker program could stay under Trump | MPR News

"It's unclear right now if the program will see any changes."
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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:42p, 2/16/25
Is it not registering with you that I am okay with immigrants coming in and picking lettuce.

"I do not care who picks"
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In reply to going4roses • 1:42p, 2/16/25
You can pick lettuce sir! I will do it with you!
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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:43p, 2/16/25
H2A program is growing, as is mechanization.
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1:52p, 2/16/25
Germany should jump at this. Deport the Afghans and Syrians.

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12:38p, 2/17/25
Donald Trump goes after the Mexican drug cartels. Mexican Senate approves US Special Forces to train Mexican military.
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In reply to bear2034 • 2:26p, 2/17/25
A functioning president w cajones.
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3:09p, 2/17/25
Daily illegal alien encounters at the border within the past 24 hours were at 200+ compared to 11,000 under Biden.
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3:38p, 2/17/25
It is absolutely hilarious that people are claiming that illegal immigrants are paying into social security using fake numbers (as if that's a good thing). The reality is that the vast amount of illegal immigrants are working under the table (i.e., not on payroll, but for cash). This is particularly true in the mom and pop shop restaurant industry and construction industry.
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In reply to BearGoggles • 3:44p, 2/17/25
And overwhelming social services and emergency rooms.

But they fill up church pews and school rooms.
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7:38p, 2/17/25

If a large number of hispanic crop pickers is no longer available in the U.S. labor force, then there will be a short-term shock to the system. Prices for agricultural products will rise in the short term.

As always, the system will adapt just fine. Wages will rise until people who have never worked in the industry are enticed to get an agriculture job. Yes, that likely will include a lot of white and black people and asians of all types. At the same time, improved technology will lead to productivity gains, resulting in long-term net benefits. It would be good if government benefits were made much harder to get, so that people would feel compelled to work.

I laugh at you politically biased drama queen idiots.
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9:45p, 2/17/25
Canadian academic Gad Saad, who speaks five languages, says that before he became famous, Middle Eastern men told him this in Arabic:

"The West is a woman to be mounted."

He says the terminology they use is more vulgar. Virtues we have like kindness, empathy, etc, they view as weakness.
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In reply to Chapman_is_Gone • 10:55p, 2/17/25
Chapman_is_Gone said:

If a large number of hispanic crop pickers is no longer available in the U.S. labor force, then there will be a short-term shock to the system. Prices for agricultural products will rise in the short term.

As always, the system will adapt just fine. Wages will rise until people who have never worked in the industry are enticed to get an agriculture job. Yes, that likely will include a lot of white and black people and asians of all types. At the same time, improved technology will lead to productivity gains, resulting in long-term net benefits. It would be good if government benefits were made much harder to get, so that people would feel compelled to work.

I laugh at you politically biased drama queen idiots.
Rising wages for agriculture workers = much higher food prices = much higher inflation.

I look forward to your ideas for improved crop picking technology.
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12:07a, 2/18/25
Given the worries about farm labor, we could offer refugee status to South Afrikaans (Dutch farmers) who have been violently attacked and often killed. That fulfills a humanitarian and agriculture need.

Apparently President Trump has suggested or offered that. South Africa is a failed state, unemployment is now about 50%. It rivals Sweden for rape Capitol of the world.

In this video, South African politicians openly talk about killing farmers, and there are over 100 laws against whites. The YouTube comments from former or current Afrikaans are chilling.

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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 2:57p, 2/18/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Chapman_is_Gone said:

If a large number of hispanic crop pickers is no longer available in the U.S. labor force, then there will be a short-term shock to the system. Prices for agricultural products will rise in the short term.

As always, the system will adapt just fine. Wages will rise until people who have never worked in the industry are enticed to get an agriculture job. Yes, that likely will include a lot of white and black people and asians of all types. At the same time, improved technology will lead to productivity gains, resulting in long-term net benefits. It would be good if government benefits were made much harder to get, so that people would feel compelled to work.

I laugh at you politically biased drama queen idiots.
Rising wages for agriculture workers = much higher food prices = much higher inflation.

I look forward to your ideas for improved crop picking technology.


Why would I do that? I am not an agricultural engineer.
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In reply to Chapman_is_Gone • 3:03p, 2/18/25
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Chapman_is_Gone said:

If a large number of hispanic crop pickers is no longer available in the U.S. labor force, then there will be a short-term shock to the system. Prices for agricultural products will rise in the short term.

As always, the system will adapt just fine. Wages will rise until people who have never worked in the industry are enticed to get an agriculture job. Yes, that likely will include a lot of white and black people and asians of all types. At the same time, improved technology will lead to productivity gains, resulting in long-term net benefits. It would be good if government benefits were made much harder to get, so that people would feel compelled to work.

I laugh at you politically biased drama queen idiots.
Rising wages for agriculture workers = much higher food prices = much higher inflation.

I look forward to your ideas for improved crop picking technology.


Why would I do that? I am not an agricultural engineer.
I'm guessing you're not an economist either.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 3:52p, 2/18/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Chapman_is_Gone said:

If a large number of hispanic crop pickers is no longer available in the U.S. labor force, then there will be a short-term shock to the system. Prices for agricultural products will rise in the short term.

As always, the system will adapt just fine. Wages will rise until people who have never worked in the industry are enticed to get an agriculture job. Yes, that likely will include a lot of white and black people and asians of all types. At the same time, improved technology will lead to productivity gains, resulting in long-term net benefits. It would be good if government benefits were made much harder to get, so that people would feel compelled to work.

I laugh at you politically biased drama queen idiots.
Rising wages for agriculture workers = much higher food prices = much higher inflation.

I look forward to your ideas for improved crop picking technology.


Why would I do that? I am not an agricultural engineer.
I'm guessing you're not an economist either.

I actually am an economist by degree and I worked for 14 years for one of the world's most famous economists. Your instincts aren't very good. Have you sensed that throughout your life?
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4:18p, 2/18/25
Afghan immigrants in Germany commit 70x the crime of the general population.



FTR, the Taliban said they'd take their citizens back! Do it! Return Afghans and Syrians.
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In reply to Chapman_is_Gone • 4:36p, 2/18/25
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Chapman_is_Gone said:

If a large number of hispanic crop pickers is no longer available in the U.S. labor force, then there will be a short-term shock to the system. Prices for agricultural products will rise in the short term.

As always, the system will adapt just fine. Wages will rise until people who have never worked in the industry are enticed to get an agriculture job. Yes, that likely will include a lot of white and black people and asians of all types. At the same time, improved technology will lead to productivity gains, resulting in long-term net benefits. It would be good if government benefits were made much harder to get, so that people would feel compelled to work.

I laugh at you politically biased drama queen idiots.
Rising wages for agriculture workers = much higher food prices = much higher inflation.

I look forward to your ideas for improved crop picking technology.


Why would I do that? I am not an agricultural engineer.
I'm guessing you're not an economist either.

I actually am an economist by degree and I worked for 14 years for one of the world's most famous economists. Your instincts aren't very good. Have you sensed that throughout your life?
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

My bad and I apologize for mischaracterizing you. God knows I'm getting a lot of that these days, so I know how that feels.
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6:56a, 2/19/25
They just broke up an organized theft ring that targeted rich athletes. I wonder if they made this plan in Chile after seeing how easy it was to get asylum in Biden's America. Perhaps we even flew them here...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/7-men-charged-connection-burglaries-professional-athletes-homes/story?id=118946743

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/43917435/seven-charged-alleged-roles-robberies-athletes-homes
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In reply to oski003 • 8:11a, 2/19/25
003 fully endorses the tweet from the WH. He thinks anyone that has an issue is just binary. Or something.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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In reply to AunBear89 • 8:22a, 2/19/25
Chains on prisoners is an issue? Gee, what could happen if dozens of prisoners roamed free on an airplane?

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In reply to movielover • 8:31a, 2/19/25
Expected response from known fascist fanboi.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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1:24p, 2/19/25

Mexican drug cartels are now considered foreign terrorist organizations by the State Dept.
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In reply to movielover • 4:54p, 2/19/25
Now we just wait for angry liberals to protest?
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