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bear2034 said:dajo9 said:
It doesn't have to be racist but MAGAts have chosen racism
It's too early to play the racism card, I'd wait until after the primaries are over.
I’ve been trying to pinpoint the exact moment at which Biden/Kamala/kjp went from: “There is no border crisis. It’s all under control.” …to: “The border crisis is the Republican’s fault!” for failing to support a bill that gives the power to grant citizenship to Mayorkas… pic.twitter.com/8XFpDEw3hn
— 🇺🇸 Kyle Bass 🇹🇼 (@Jkylebass) February 7, 2024
Remember this doozy? #StepDown 2/3 https://t.co/cY9EJ8PP7H
— 🇺🇸 Kyle Bass 🇹🇼 (@Jkylebass) February 7, 2024
— 🇺🇸 Kyle Bass 🇹🇼 (@Jkylebass) February 7, 2024
dajo9 said:bear2034 said:dajo9 said:
It doesn't have to be racist but MAGAts have chosen racism
It's too early to play the racism card, I'd wait until after the primaries are over.
The 2016 primary ended a long time ago. We know who MAGAts are.
Illegals think they can vote and they’re voting for Biden… pic.twitter.com/Gl5ls9LS3L
— @amuse (@amuse) February 8, 2024
The invasion continues… pic.twitter.com/mBbZv56b7H
— @amuse (@amuse) February 8, 2024
bear2034 said:
In 2016, Hillary told black churchgoers that she keeps a bottle of hot sauce in her bag at all times.
Illegal Migrants Talk About 2024 Election:
— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) February 8, 2024
They believe they entered legally because they made a claim for asylum (fake claim) so they think they can vote.
Reporter:
"Who are you going to vote for?"
Illegal Migrant:
"Joe Biden"
"Joe Biden is helping us here"
"Of course for… pic.twitter.com/kKbp1yL1s5
concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
This is so easy to refute.oski003 said:concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
They certainly can vote in local elections in many states, such as California.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:This is so easy to refute.oski003 said:concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
They certainly can vote in local elections in many states, such as California.
From sos.ca.gov:
To register to vote in California, you must be
A United States citizen and a resident of California,
18 years or older on election day,
Not currently serving a state or federal prison term for the conviction of a felony,
and not currently found mentally incompetent to vote by a court.
The AP does mention that San Francisco (and only San Francisco) does allow noncitizen parents to vote in local school board races, but they register separately and can't vote in any other race.
So, more municipalities in California = Santa Ana and many states = Maryland, Vermont and Washington DC (which isn't actually a state).oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:This is so easy to refute.oski003 said:concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
They certainly can vote in local elections in many states, such as California.
From sos.ca.gov:
To register to vote in California, you must be
A United States citizen and a resident of California,
18 years or older on election day,
Not currently serving a state or federal prison term for the conviction of a felony,
and not currently found mentally incompetent to vote by a court.
The AP does mention that San Francisco (and only San Francisco) does allow noncitizen parents to vote in local school board races, but they register separately and can't vote in any other race.
Only the State Supreme Court is currently stopping SF to allow full non-citizen local voting.
And more municipalities are certainly trying to allow noncitizens to vote. Santa Ana feels it is unfair to disenfranchise illegal immigrants, since they are a whopping 24% of their population.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ocregister.com/2023/11/10/santa-ana-residents-to-decide-whether-noncitizens-can-vote-in-local-elections/amp/
Here are municipalities in other states:
District of Columbia
The District of Columbia Council passed the D.C. Noncitizen Vote Act in October 2022, allowing noncitizens to vote in local elections. Due to the District's non-state status, all of its legislation must be reviewed by Congress prior to adoption. The D.C. Noncitizen Vote Act overcame bipartisan opposition in the U.S. House of Representatives and passed its congressional review in March 2023.[9]
Advocates of the law argued that noncitizens have an interest in schools, public safety and other issues, and should therefore be allowed to weigh in on public policy decisions. Opponents argue that noncitizens do not have a fundamental right to vote or hold public office in the U.S. and that the legislation dilutes the voting power of U.S. citizens.[10]
In March 2023, a group of seven D.C. voters filed a lawsuit in D.C. Superior Court seeking an injunction to prevent the law from being enforced. The case has been moved to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, and the litigation is ongoing as of June 2023.[9][10]
Maryland
Maryland's state constitution specifies that "every citizen of the United States, of the age of 18 years or upwards, who is a resident of the State as of the time for the closing of registration next preceding the election, shall be entitled to vote in the ward or election district in which the citizen resides at all elections to be held in this State."[11] The state constitution gives municipalities the authority to allow people outside those qualifications to vote without requiring state approval of such changes.[12]
The following Maryland municipalities allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of November 2023.
Barnesville
The Barnesville town charter defines qualified voters as "having resided therein for six months previous to any town election and being eighteen years of age."[13]
Cheverly
Any person over the age of 18 who has been a resident of Cheverly for at least 30 days at the time of the election and has not been convicted of a crime is eligible to register to vote in town elections.[14]
Chevy Chase Section 3
The charter of Chevy Chase Section 3 reads, "'Qualified Voter' shall mean any person who is a resident of Chevy Chase Section 3, without regard to citizenship, and is at least eighteen (18) years of age."[15]
Garrett Park
The Garrett Park town charter reads, "The town manager shall provide for the registration of voters in a flexible and available manner in order to encourage registration and voting, consistent with the policies adopted by ordinance and the rules and procedures specified by the election judges. Qualified persons may register by universal registration with either Montgomery County or the town, or may register only with the town, including residents who are not citizens of the United States, up to and including election day."[16]
Glen Echo
Glen Echo's town charter says the following: "Any person who is not a United States citizen, and (a) is a resident of the Town of Glen Echo, (b) is a lawful resident of the United States, and (c) except for the United States citizenship requirement, meets the voter qualifications provided in Section 501(a) may register to vote in Town elections."[17]
Hyattsville
The Hyattsville town website states, "Hyattsville residents who are not U.S. citizens, or do not wish to register with the State, may use the Hyattsville City Voter Registration Form."[18]
Martin's Additions
The Martin's Additions town charter says, "'Qualified Voter' is any person who owns property or any resident of Martin's Additions who is eighteen (18) years of age or over."[19]
Mount Rainier
Mount Rainier's city charter states that any person who has been a city resident for 30 days or more at the time of a local election, is at least 18 years old, has not been convicted of a felony offense or of buying and selling votes, and is not under mental guardianship may register to vote.[20]
Riverdale Park
Riverdale Park's town charter states, "(a) Every resident of the town who (1) has the Town of Riverdale Park as his or her primary residence, (2) is at least sixteen (16) years of age, (3) has resided within the corporate limits of the town for at least forty-five (45) days immediately preceding any nonrunoff town election, (4) does not claim the right to vote elsewhere in the United States, (5) has not been found by a court to be unable to communicate a desire to vote, and (6) is registered to vote in accordance with the provisions of 503 of this charter shall be a qualified voter of the Town."[21]
Somerset
The Somerset town charter says, "Every person who (1) is at least eighteen years of age, (2) has resided within the corporate limits of the town for fourteen days next preceding any election, and (3) is registered in accordance with the provisions of this Charter, shall be a qualified voter of the town. Every qualified voter of the town shall be entitled to vote at any or all town elections."[22]
Takoma Park
The Takoma Park city website states, "City residents who are not citizens of the United States can register to vote in Takoma Park elections by completing the Takoma Park Voter Registration Application."[23]
Vermont
The following Vermont municipalities allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of October 2023.
Burlington
On March 9, 2023, the city of Burlington approved a charter amendment extending the right to vote to its noncitizen residents. Although Governor Phil Scott vetoed the legislation, both chambers of the state legislature voted to override that veto on June 30. The law took immediate effect.[24][25]
Montpelier
On June 24, 2021, H177 was enacted into law, approving a Montpelier city charter amendment authorizing legal residents to vote in city elections. Although Governor Phil Scott vetoed the legislation, both chambers of the state legislature voted to override that veto. The law took immediate effect.[24][26]
Winooski
On June 24, 2021, H 227 was enacted into law, approving a Winooski city charter amendment authorizing legal residents to vote in city and school district elections. Although Governor Phil Scott vetoed the legislation, both chambers of the state legislature voted to override that veto. The law took immediate effect.[24][27]
Eastern Oregon Bear said:So, more municipalities in California = Santa Ana and many states = Maryland, Vermont and Washington DC (which isn't actually a state).oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:This is so easy to refute.oski003 said:concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
They certainly can vote in local elections in many states, such as California.
From sos.ca.gov:
To register to vote in California, you must be
A United States citizen and a resident of California,
18 years or older on election day,
Not currently serving a state or federal prison term for the conviction of a felony,
and not currently found mentally incompetent to vote by a court.
The AP does mention that San Francisco (and only San Francisco) does allow noncitizen parents to vote in local school board races, but they register separately and can't vote in any other race.
Only the State Supreme Court is currently stopping SF to allow full non-citizen local voting.
And more municipalities are certainly trying to allow noncitizens to vote. Santa Ana feels it is unfair to disenfranchise illegal immigrants, since they are a whopping 24% of their population.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ocregister.com/2023/11/10/santa-ana-residents-to-decide-whether-noncitizens-can-vote-in-local-elections/amp/
Here are municipalities in other states:
District of Columbia
The District of Columbia Council passed the D.C. Noncitizen Vote Act in October 2022, allowing noncitizens to vote in local elections. Due to the District's non-state status, all of its legislation must be reviewed by Congress prior to adoption. The D.C. Noncitizen Vote Act overcame bipartisan opposition in the U.S. House of Representatives and passed its congressional review in March 2023.[9]
Advocates of the law argued that noncitizens have an interest in schools, public safety and other issues, and should therefore be allowed to weigh in on public policy decisions. Opponents argue that noncitizens do not have a fundamental right to vote or hold public office in the U.S. and that the legislation dilutes the voting power of U.S. citizens.[10]
In March 2023, a group of seven D.C. voters filed a lawsuit in D.C. Superior Court seeking an injunction to prevent the law from being enforced. The case has been moved to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, and the litigation is ongoing as of June 2023.[9][10]
Maryland
Maryland's state constitution specifies that "every citizen of the United States, of the age of 18 years or upwards, who is a resident of the State as of the time for the closing of registration next preceding the election, shall be entitled to vote in the ward or election district in which the citizen resides at all elections to be held in this State."[11] The state constitution gives municipalities the authority to allow people outside those qualifications to vote without requiring state approval of such changes.[12]
The following Maryland municipalities allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of November 2023.
Barnesville
The Barnesville town charter defines qualified voters as "having resided therein for six months previous to any town election and being eighteen years of age."[13]
Cheverly
Any person over the age of 18 who has been a resident of Cheverly for at least 30 days at the time of the election and has not been convicted of a crime is eligible to register to vote in town elections.[14]
Chevy Chase Section 3
The charter of Chevy Chase Section 3 reads, "'Qualified Voter' shall mean any person who is a resident of Chevy Chase Section 3, without regard to citizenship, and is at least eighteen (18) years of age."[15]
Garrett Park
The Garrett Park town charter reads, "The town manager shall provide for the registration of voters in a flexible and available manner in order to encourage registration and voting, consistent with the policies adopted by ordinance and the rules and procedures specified by the election judges. Qualified persons may register by universal registration with either Montgomery County or the town, or may register only with the town, including residents who are not citizens of the United States, up to and including election day."[16]
Glen Echo
Glen Echo's town charter says the following: "Any person who is not a United States citizen, and (a) is a resident of the Town of Glen Echo, (b) is a lawful resident of the United States, and (c) except for the United States citizenship requirement, meets the voter qualifications provided in Section 501(a) may register to vote in Town elections."[17]
Hyattsville
The Hyattsville town website states, "Hyattsville residents who are not U.S. citizens, or do not wish to register with the State, may use the Hyattsville City Voter Registration Form."[18]
Martin's Additions
The Martin's Additions town charter says, "'Qualified Voter' is any person who owns property or any resident of Martin's Additions who is eighteen (18) years of age or over."[19]
Mount Rainier
Mount Rainier's city charter states that any person who has been a city resident for 30 days or more at the time of a local election, is at least 18 years old, has not been convicted of a felony offense or of buying and selling votes, and is not under mental guardianship may register to vote.[20]
Riverdale Park
Riverdale Park's town charter states, "(a) Every resident of the town who (1) has the Town of Riverdale Park as his or her primary residence, (2) is at least sixteen (16) years of age, (3) has resided within the corporate limits of the town for at least forty-five (45) days immediately preceding any nonrunoff town election, (4) does not claim the right to vote elsewhere in the United States, (5) has not been found by a court to be unable to communicate a desire to vote, and (6) is registered to vote in accordance with the provisions of 503 of this charter shall be a qualified voter of the Town."[21]
Somerset
The Somerset town charter says, "Every person who (1) is at least eighteen years of age, (2) has resided within the corporate limits of the town for fourteen days next preceding any election, and (3) is registered in accordance with the provisions of this Charter, shall be a qualified voter of the town. Every qualified voter of the town shall be entitled to vote at any or all town elections."[22]
Takoma Park
The Takoma Park city website states, "City residents who are not citizens of the United States can register to vote in Takoma Park elections by completing the Takoma Park Voter Registration Application."[23]
Vermont
The following Vermont municipalities allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of October 2023.
Burlington
On March 9, 2023, the city of Burlington approved a charter amendment extending the right to vote to its noncitizen residents. Although Governor Phil Scott vetoed the legislation, both chambers of the state legislature voted to override that veto on June 30. The law took immediate effect.[24][25]
Montpelier
On June 24, 2021, H177 was enacted into law, approving a Montpelier city charter amendment authorizing legal residents to vote in city elections. Although Governor Phil Scott vetoed the legislation, both chambers of the state legislature voted to override that veto. The law took immediate effect.[24][26]
Winooski
On June 24, 2021, H 227 was enacted into law, approving a Winooski city charter amendment authorizing legal residents to vote in city and school district elections. Although Governor Phil Scott vetoed the legislation, both chambers of the state legislature voted to override that veto. The law took immediate effect.[24][27]
Sounds like a broad national groundswell.
oski003 said:concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
They certainly can vote in local elections in many states, such as California.
concordtom said:oski003 said:concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
They certainly can vote in local elections in many states, such as California.
Yet, we are talking about presidency here, so it's misinformation AGAIN.
But let's consider a small farming community with 3 landowners and 20 migrant pickers. Shall the 20 have zero local representation?
I know you'd say no. But then stop and think for a moment about why we have a democracy to begin with.
You guys miss the bigger issue in favor of your personal interests.
A that's what leads to rationale of rule by minority, to slavery, to dictatorship, a king of England who taxed the colonies without representation.
Go back to school.
The problem, here it is. They're illegal. They don't have a right to participate in the democratic process. If they don't like the political situation, they can leave. OTOH, the American citizen who doesn't like the political situation, where is he or she to go? Why do we pretend that illegal status is just another way of saying American? It is not. There are millions of immigrants who have respected the law and done things the legal and proper way. They are entitled to vote. Why is this so hard to understand? And please, before you blather about the need to protect these people, try to remember that we have labor laws, legal protections, etc. They have more rights than they do in their home countries.concordtom said:oski003 said:concordtom said:
You lease tell me how an illegal immigrant will vote when their name is on no roll?
You guys spout crazy crap.
It's just an absolute waste of time.
They certainly can vote in local elections in many states, such as California.
Yet, we are talking about presidency here, so it's misinformation AGAIN.
But let's consider a small farming community with 3 landowners and 20 migrant pickers. Shall the 20 have zero local representation?
I know you'd say no. But then stop and think for a moment about why we have a democracy to begin with.
You guys miss the bigger issue in favor of your personal interests.
A that's what leads to rationale of rule by minority, to slavery, to dictatorship, a king of England who taxed the colonies without representation.
Go back to school.
Zippergate said:
Some common sense here...
https://open.substack.com/pub/unglossed/p/a-simple-fix-for-the-border-crisis?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
"The major flaws of the proposed legislation were:
1. It would arguably have enshrined the current status-quo of rampant, endless asylum fraud (claiming asylum as a means of attaining de facto legal alien status on the spot, due to the inability of the review system to keep up with claims)."
2 .....No migrants would have cancelled their attempts due to the expectation of possible, temporary inconvenience (given that such inconveniences are already routine). This stands into contrast with the Remain in Mexico program, which disincentivized additional departures,
4. Finally, and most astoundingly, it does not appear possible for the "emergency" threshold to ever have been reached due to the weird exclusion of aliens from any country besides Mexico or Canada from the relevant daily counts. The current migrant crisis predominantly involves nationals of other countries besides Mexico
oski003 said:Zippergate said:
Some common sense here...
https://open.substack.com/pub/unglossed/p/a-simple-fix-for-the-border-crisis?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
"The major flaws of the proposed legislation were:
1. It would arguably have enshrined the current status-quo of rampant, endless asylum fraud (claiming asylum as a means of attaining de facto legal alien status on the spot, due to the inability of the review system to keep up with claims)."
2 .....No migrants would have cancelled their attempts due to the expectation of possible, temporary inconvenience (given that such inconveniences are already routine). This stands into contrast with the Remain in Mexico program, which disincentivized additional departures,
4. Finally, and most astoundingly, it does not appear possible for the "emergency" threshold to ever have been reached due to the weird exclusion of aliens from any country besides Mexico or Canada from the relevant daily counts. The current migrant crisis predominantly involves nationals of other countries besides Mexico
I have asked the bidenistas on this site if point 4 was true on two separate occasions and haven't gotten an answer. It seems odd if it is indeed so.
This should worry every single American. 🚨
— Steve 🇺🇸 (@SteveLovesAmmo) February 8, 2024
Butler County, Ohio Sheriff Richard Jones informs the media that he just recently came back from a conference in Washington D.C. with FBI Director Christopher Wray.
Christopher Wray has been quoted as saying, “It’s not a matter of… pic.twitter.com/qiLCWfheC3
Do you believe it would have been an incremental improvement relative to the current disaster?Zippergate said:
Some common sense here...
https://open.substack.com/pub/unglossed/p/a-simple-fix-for-the-border-crisis?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
"The major flaws of the proposed legislation were:
1. It would arguably have enshrined the current status-quo of rampant, endless asylum fraud (claiming asylum as a means of attaining de facto legal alien status on the spot, due to the inability of the review system to keep up with claims)."
2 .....No migrants would have cancelled their attempts due to the expectation of possible, temporary inconvenience (given that such inconveniences are already routine). This stands into contrast with the Remain in Mexico program, which disincentivized additional departures,
4. Finally, and most astoundingly, it does not appear possible for the "emergency" threshold to ever have been reached due to the weird exclusion of aliens from any country besides Mexico or Canada from the relevant daily counts. The current migrant crisis predominantly involves nationals of other countries besides Mexico
I guess the only thing this country needs to be more functional is more extreme, my-way-or-the-highway, geniuses.Genocide Joe said:All Democrats are conservatives in denial, so you'll fit in seamlessly. It's really just the old Republican Party minus the abortion issue now.calbear93 said:
Loonies have been considering me a RINO anyway but count me as a conservative Democrat now.
bear2034 said:
This bill is the definition of theater and can kicking.
dajo9 said:
You folks will believe anything your cult tells you and ignore reality. Here is Trump in 2018 acknowledging the border needs Congressional action. That's because we have laws in place that should be changed. Biden will close the border today if the Republican Congress would act. But they won't. They would rather the border remain open for political purposes. Republicans putting themselves over the country is the norm.
https://www.threads.net/@bidenharrishq/post/C3BL2IZxILm/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Zippergate said:
"When" not "if"
It doesn't help that we are involved in multiple wars right now and trying to provoke a war with the second most powerful nation in the world (which just happens to be sending military age men across the border.)This should worry every single American. 🚨
— Steve 🇺🇸 (@SteveLovesAmmo) February 8, 2024
Butler County, Ohio Sheriff Richard Jones informs the media that he just recently came back from a conference in Washington D.C. with FBI Director Christopher Wray.
Christopher Wray has been quoted as saying, “It’s not a matter of… pic.twitter.com/qiLCWfheC3
DISGRACEFUL: Chicago Mayor touts program where black-owned businesses were given $17 MILLION to feed illegal aliens, white-owned businesses did not qualify for the program
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 12, 2024
"It really captures what I call 'the soul of Chicago.' It's who we are." pic.twitter.com/BxJ6eq1HRe
The crisis at the border is unsustainable. The body bags keep piling up. Drugs and human trafficking run rampant. Our cities and towns are overrun and strained to the max. The number of illegal migrants in the United States has roughly doubled under President Biden. Under his… pic.twitter.com/xSPFOv5iU2
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) February 12, 2024
Seven North African migrants in Italy have been charged over the gang rape of a young girl in a case that has shocked the country. CNN reports that the problem is how the “far-right” could benefit from the reaction to the rape. Read: https://t.co/FXzfMnpw1T
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) February 12, 2024