BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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I'm so glad I'm not cynical about EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING.

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I think I should be even more cynical when it comes to the media. If my base case is to assume the media is lying, has an agenda, and is spewing propaganda, I think the majority of the time, I will be right.

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Trillions are at stake. Trade deals, Ukraine kickbacks, Big Ag after Ukrainian farm land, covering up for past deeds.

P.S. Newsom just set up a PAC and SuperPAC.

I actually feel sorry for Republicans and I think they deserve a conviction or two after 30 years of chasing windmills and spending endless millions on investigations to nowhere.

You think Hunter's longtime main business partner spilling the beans on the Biden family business, in which he has participated for decades, is a nothingburger?

IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!! pic.twitter.com/pOsweUlIX1

— il Donaldo Trumpo (@PapiTrumpo) August 3, 2023

There are no conspiracies but there are no coincidences either.

^^^ Alina Habba Habba.

So many phrases are obviously cooked up by GOP messaging committee that it is embarrassing that anyone uses them to make a point. All their usage does is identify you as an idiot willing to pass on whatever spoon fed tripe you are shoveled by the tribe. These phrases are so inorganic and forced that one sincerely sounds like 3rd grader arguing in a playground when used. Some of the more recent stoogery: Trump Derangement Syndrome, All Lives Matter, MAGA, open borders, and "two-tier justice" as used recently regarding the methodical, justified, and fact based investigation.

But now we have heard the dumbest of them all: the Biden crime family. Really? One feels comfortable using that term and not feeling like a total brain-dead parrot of political sophistry? Rather than identifying a specific crime AFTER reviewing evidence or a lawful investigation, instead one just declares that the entire Biden family is completely equivalent to a mafia don and his family...all while not acknowledging any irony that the man they defend honors "loyalty" (read silence) above all else, has explicitly worked with the mafia and adopted their organizational structure and ways of insulating the boss and the vague undocumented ways that orders are passed down through capos and the use of sketchy "consiglieri" lawyers and the never-ending lies and grift and scams and misrepresentation and cover of a perverted definition of faith, family, and patriotism to hold and exploit power at any cost while bilking followers and skimming off everything they get their hands on even their own charitable organizations and political action campaigns and at the same time taking bribes for self and family while violating emoluments. It's mind boggling incoherent.

Excellent post!

TL;DR: liars, hypocrites, and morons.

blungld said:

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So many phrases are obviously cooked up by GOP messaging committee that it is embarrassing that anyone uses them to make a point. All their usage does is identify you as an idiot willing to pass on whatever spoon fed tripe you are shoveled by the tribe. These phrases are so inorganic and forced that one sincerely sounds like 3rd grader arguing in a playground when used. Some of the more recent stoogery: Trump Derangement Syndrome, All Lives Matter, MAGA, open borders, and "two-tier justice" as used recently regarding the methodical, justified, and fact based investigation.

But now we have heard the dumbest of them all: the Biden crime family. Really? One feels comfortable using that term and not feeling like a total brain-dead parrot of political sophistry? Rather than identifying a specific crime AFTER reviewing evidence or a lawful investigation, instead one just declares that the entire Biden family is completely equivalent to a mafia don and his family...all while not acknowledging any irony that the man they defend honors "loyalty" (read silence) above all else, has explicitly worked with the mafia and adopted their organizational structure and ways of insulating the boss and the vague undocumented ways that orders are passed down through capos and the use of sketchy "consiglieri" lawyers and the never-ending lies and grift and scams and misrepresentation and cover of a perverted definition of faith, family, and patriotism to hold and exploit power at any cost while bilking followers and skimming off everything they get their hands on even their own charitable organizations and political action campaigns and at the same time taking bribes for self and family while violating emoluments. It's mind boggling incoherent.

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It's hard to take you seriously when a tribalist like you rails against tribalism and when you are completely OK with your tribe using terms like MAGAt, RWNJ, cult, etc. Never have I seen you stand up to someone on the left breaking your principles.

Have some principles that cross tribal lines and I will take you seriously when you stand on principle. Otherwise, you are just a tribalist draped with fake principles

For example, you find no unintended humor that the worst violator of the principle you claim in your post cheers your post while doing in the exact same post what you said was wrong with the right. So, it is not even about the principles you claim in all your posts. It's about your identity so embedded in your political identity that you have to convince yourself that everything on your side is right and everything on the other side is wrong.

bearister said:

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I actually feel sorry for Republicans and I think they deserve a conviction or two after 30 years of chasing windmills and spending endless millions on investigations to nowhere.

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Speaking of windmills, I see a lot of windmills in Oakland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York City.

Liberals are quite good at fighting for misguided and romanticized ideals that have no bearing in reality and actual human nature. When the NAACP thinks you have gone too far in your fight against law and order, you are the Don Quixote.

BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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I'm so glad I'm not cynical about EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING.

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I think I should be even more cynical when it comes to the media. If my base case is to assume the media is lying, has an agenda, and is spewing propaganda, I think the majority of the time, I will be right.

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Then why do you keep posting bull**** articles and tweets?

Parroting extremist posting and articles is not a sign of cynicism.

calbear93 said:

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bearister said:

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I actually feel sorry for Republicans and I think they deserve a conviction or two after 30 years of chasing windmills and spending endless millions on investigations to nowhere.

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Speaking of windmills, I see a lot of windmills in Oakland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York City.

Liberals are quite good at fighting for misguided and romanticized ideals that have no bearing in reality and actual human nature. When the NAACP thinks you have gone too far in your fight against law and order, you are the Don Quixote.

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Somebody decided to come back in here swinging.

calbear93 said:

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BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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I'm so glad I'm not cynical about EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING.

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I think I should be even more cynical when it comes to the media. If my base case is to assume the media is lying, has an agenda, and is spewing propaganda, I think the majority of the time, I will be right.

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Then why do you keep posting bull**** articles and tweets?

Parroting extremist posting and articles is not a sign of cynicism.

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I'll answer your non-serous question with a serious question. Why do you come back from vacation only to come here to vent your anger?

BearHunter said:

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calbear93 said:

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BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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I'm so glad I'm not cynical about EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING.

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I think I should be even more cynical when it comes to the media. If my base case is to assume the media is lying, has an agenda, and is spewing propaganda, I think the majority of the time, I will be right.

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Then why do you keep posting bull**** articles and tweets?

Parroting extremist posting and articles is not a sign of cynicism.

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I'll answer your non-serous question with a serious question. Why do you come back from vacation only to come here to vent your anger?

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I am not angry.

I am too blessed to be angry.

Spending three weeks with the most beautiful souls without a lot of possession but a lot of joy in Africa can remind me how blessed I am.

Only things that make me angry are those who abuse animals or children or those who discriminate based on race, gender, sexual orientation or religion.

Otherwise, politics don't make me angry.

I am just willing to call things as I see them.

Doesn't mean I am right.

But it definitely doesn't mean I am angry.

Cal88 said:

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Rwanda? Kenya? RSA? Hopefully not Niger...

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We stayed away from the war zones.

We were mostly on the east side of the continent.

My favorite were Zambia and Tarzania.

Also, Disney does injustice to hyenas.

And elephants are such majestic animals, until they give you a warning with their ears that they are angry.

Would recommend an extended safari at least once to animal lovers like me.

calbear93 said:

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BearHunter said:

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calbear93 said:

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BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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I'm so glad I'm not cynical about EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING.

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I think I should be even more cynical when it comes to the media. If my base case is to assume the media is lying, has an agenda, and is spewing propaganda, I think the majority of the time, I will be right.

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Then why do you keep posting bull**** articles and tweets?

Parroting extremist posting and articles is not a sign of cynicism.

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I'll answer your non-serous question with a serious question. Why do you come back from vacation only to come here to vent your anger?

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I am not angry.

I am too blessed to be angry.

Spending three weeks with the most beautiful souls without a lot of possession but a lot of joy in Africa can remind me how blessed I am.

Only things that make me angry are those who abuse animals or children or those who discriminate based on race, gender, sexual orientation or religion.

Otherwise, politics don't make me angry.

I am just willing to call things as I see them.

Doesn't mean I am right.

But it definitely doesn't mean I am angry.

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You don't seem convinced of what you wrote.

movielover said:

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Possibly unregistered foreign agent, undeclared income, etc. And then there are limits in how much you can give back to "the Big Guy" every year.

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Upon Further Review...

Update: You're right on this one. Hunter Biden may very well have an Unregistered Foreign Agent charge, and more House investigations, in his future.

That's the same charge as Michael Flynn in 2017. The big difference being that Flynn was National Security Advisor at the time. Hunter Biden does not, and did not, hold any Government office. But a crime is a crime.

All of the same charges will still hold true for Jared Kushner, whose levels of corruption & agency dwarf Hunter Biden's.

But Kushner and Flynn don't have a big wanker we can all..uh..study and investigate.

OdontoBear66 said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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Evidence all over:

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Yeah, pretty much all you've got there is suggestion and innuendo, not evidence.

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Be patient sy, be patient.... It's all coming....Of course if the DOJ issues a Saturday lockup for the witness after him being loose for 1 1/2 years after conviction, then evidence may be jailed. Doesn't the shenanigans of the DOJ and FBI even leave you a bit concerned about being an American moving forward, irrespective of political persuasion. And if you think not, try to imagine why all the hate on the side other than you. Don't be an intellectual midget.

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Conservatives on this board have been telling me "it's coming" for years. Wake me up when it arrives.

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Will do. But I think you will be informed before that.

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I feel like we've been pretty patient. Trump long ago realized he had no chance against Joe Biden in a free and fair election which is why he sought to put his thumb on the scale in 2020.

Among the first things he did was have Rudy go on a corruption tour of Ukraine and attempt to corruptly induce Zelensky to announce a baseless investigation into Joe and Hunter. We know this is true for a number of reasons but among them is the guy helping Rudy has recently confirmed the whole thing was a ruse. Trump was impeached for this (in his first impeachment, not to be confused with his second one (for the 2020 election) or any of his 3 recent indictments (with the 4th on its way).

Since that time, the GOP has been fixated on Hunter as a way to help Trump corruptly beat Joe. Next came the "laptop from hell" from which congressional GOPers pathetically displayed unauthorized pornography in the house chamber and entered it into the public record. Other than for their prurience, to what end was extremely unclear.

Now the weaponization committee (which, in classic GOP projection, is being used to weaponize the GOP's house majority to support Trump's doomed 2024 campaign) has had months to investigate, has had several witnesses and has yet to present even a tangential claim to any wrongdoing by Biden.

As far as I can tell, their smoking gun is that Joe talked to his son on speakerphone during business dinners. Oh, and, of course, that Joe said multiple times that he loves his son. There apparently is nothing more offensive to Trump than unconditional love for family members.

Everyone agrees that it's unseemly for a political scion (even if not in politics) to monetize his adjacency to power, even if that adjacency is to a former VP no longer in office - as most of the Hunter shenanigans occurred after Joe's term as VP ended and before he became POTUS.

Meanwhile, with no irony lost on democrats, no GOPer has ever raised an eyebrow about any of the similar power-monetizing done by Trump's demon spawn. They defended Trump when Ivanka flew on AF1 to China (before she was in the administration) and China shortly thereafter granted her trademarks. They were silent when Kushner leveraged his position to secure $2B in funding from the Saudis, which everyone acknowledges he is unfit to have received - including the Saudis!

But the GOP will continue to pretend that there is some theoretical crime (which they have as yet been unable to identify) that will cause Biden some sort of problem.

The last irony is that they believe the sitting president can do anything he wants, including pardoning himself and family, and that even if they had Joe dead to rights for actions taken prior to 2020, he could easily wave his magic wand as the "chief law enforcement officer" of the land so there would be nothing of concern here.

So, please indulge us, what pray tell should we be waiting for? What wrongdoing have you or the GOP identified that is so concerning that Biden should be fearful of legitimate reprisal?

I think we all know at this point that this is just the GOP trying to manufacture a scandal because they are staring down another big election loss. Trump is less popular than ever and his base is ever shrinking. All of the other GOP presidential candidates seem to be auditioning to be his failed VP, or worse, and the GOP is in shambles.

This is Viktor Shokin. He is the Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden accused of being corrupt and had removed.

In this video he responds to accusations that his investigation into Burisma was dormant or that he was corrupt. He tells the truth about why he was removed as prosecutor.… pic.twitter.com/4kmXexBsmL

— MAZE (@mazemoore) August 4, 2023

After Biden bragged about getting the prosecutor fired, numerous ex-Obama officials went on TV to tell this lie:

The prosecutor Biden had removed was not fighting corruption so they replaced him with someone solid.

The MSM immediately parroted this lie until half of America believed it. Biden got the prosecutor fired because he WASN'T investigating companies like the one paying his son!

calbear93 said:

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Maybe if I wrote as a QAnon fanatic, you would be convinced and repost verbatim? (Was my joking with a hint of truth betraying anger?)

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We both know Biden is a degenerate crook but I'm a realist, Chris Christie just won't cut it here.

People that get the “most votes in American history” don’t tend to imprison their political opponents and censor their critics online

But people who rig elections do

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) August 5, 2023

BearHunter said:

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People that get the “most votes in American history” don’t tend to imprison their political opponents and censor their critics online

But people who rig elections do

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) August 5, 2023

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Most political opponents don't commit multiple felonies in multiple jurisdictions.

10% For The Big Guy said:

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Gym Socks propaganda

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Gym is angry that these fake hearings are taking away from his time with teen wrestlers.

pic.twitter.com/VbNm3rhWwn

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) July 20, 2023

Why do you rely on White Supremicists for your disinformation?

Just because some clown named Poso says it is so doesn't make it so.

bearister said:

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Funny is funny

82gradDLSdad said:

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Funny is funny

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The left can't meme because effective memes require an element of truth behind them.

Memes are for simple minded conservative troglodytes lacking the intellect and vocabulary to express even basic ideas. So they resort to "dope memes" that make them and their incel buddies giggle.

AunBear89 said:

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Memes are for simple minded conservative troglodytes lacking the intellect and vocabulary to express even basic ideas. So they resort to "dope memes" that make them and their incel buddies giggle.

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If you were conservative, memes would be right on point for you. You almost described yourself to a T.