The Economy

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BearlySane88
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearlySane88 said:

SBGold said:

I'm not following how that makes him a hypocrite by definition.

Definition of a hypocrite (the research shows):

A hypocrite is a person who pretends to have virtues, moral beliefs, or principles that they do not actually possess, often acting in direct contradiction to their stated beliefs. It involves feigning a persona to deceive others, commonly by criticizing behavior in others while engaging in it themselves


I feel like 88 has not shown anything of this in his responses to you

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN


If you don't call out the same actions on both sides, yes that's by definition being a hypocrite.

Thank you for your attention to this lesson

Maybe both sides aren't misbehaving to the same degree.


We are doing the same thing. It's either wrong on both sides and is called out on both sides or it's not wrong for either. If it's not called out on both sides, that's being hypocritical. Not sure how that's so confusing for some of yall
SBGold
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The definition is about your actions though, not about calling it out everywhere you see it.

What are the sides here anyway, aren't we all Cal people?

Hate shouldn't exist in your heart.

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN
BearlySane88
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SBGold said:

The definition is about your actions though, not about calling it out everywhere you see it.

What are the sides here anyway, aren't we all Cal people?

Hate shouldn't exist in your heart.

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN


I have no hate on my heart, for anyone. I'm not spouting off calls for political violence like those on the left are
movielover
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SBGold said:

The definition is about your actions though, not about calling it out everywhere you see it.

What are the sides here anyway, aren't we all Cal people?

Hate shouldn't exist in your heart.

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN


What did slick Newsom excel at?
Muckieeye
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Wow! Look at all of those 7 and 6 star posts! There must be some really substantive information being discussed for so many "people" to be positively engaged. I see a few 5 stars earlier in the thread - it seems the star machine has more work to do.

Stars are important. Just ask all the "people" that star temu's storm of "I know you are, but what am I?" posts in this thread.
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.
-John Stewart Mill
BearlySane88
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Muckieeye said:

Wow! Look at all of those 7 and 6 star posts! There must be some really substantive information being discussed for so many "people" to be positively engaged. I see a few 5 stars earlier in the thread - it seems the star machine has more work to do.

Stars are important. Just ask all the "people" that star temu's storm of "I know you are, but what am I?" posts in this thread.


Nobody cares about stars except one side. Move it along.
Muckieeye
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That's an odd thing for someone who upvotes their own posts to say.

EDIT: I bet it still gets 7 stars.
EDIT2: Nailed it.
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.
-John Stewart Mill
BearlySane88
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Muckieeye said:

That's an odd thing for someone who upvotes their own posts to say.

EDIT: I bet it still gets 7 stars.


Projection?

Once again, nobody cares about stars.
Muckieeye
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Deflection? If you don't care, why reply?
Oh - so you can have more posts to upvote. Very creative.
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.
-John Stewart Mill
BearlySane88
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Muckieeye said:

Deflection? If you don't care, why reply?
Oh - so you can have more posts to upvote. Very creative.


Because nobody cares about stars and you posted the opposite on a public message board. Seems appropriate for someone to respond in this type of forum
SBGold
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movielover said:

SBGold said:

The definition is about your actions though, not about calling it out everywhere you see it.

What are the sides here anyway, aren't we all Cal people?

Hate shouldn't exist in your heart.

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN


What did slick Newsom excel at?

I'm glad you asked Skippy, here's a rundown. Pay particular attention to the economy, healthcare and violence updates:

Climate & Environment California under Newsom has been leading the transition to zero-emission vehicles, requiring all new cars sold in the state to be zero-emission by 2035. California has also delivered over $1 billion to deploy more than 11,600 clean trucks and buses across 2,000+ fleets.

Economy California's economy grew 5% in 2025 to reach a record nominal GDP of $4.25 trillion, outperforming every other state and continuing a 16-year growth streak.

Healthcare Through Covered California, the state became the first in the nation to offer financial help for individual health insurance on top of federal support, including expanded premium assistance for middle-class individuals. California also became the first state to have its own generic drug label through the CalRx program.

Gun Safety California is ranked #1 in gun safety, with a gun death rate 40% lower than the national average.

Education Newsom made up to two years of community college tuition-free and worked to build more affordable student housing at UC, CSU, and community colleges.

Mental Health Newsom led a historic transformation of the state's behavioral health care system, putting it on the ballot for voters and investing nearly $1.5 billion to expand mental health and substance use disorder treatment and housing.

Housing He enacted what was described as the most extensive housing-and-permitting package in state history, streamlining environmental review to build more homes faster.

Homelessness Under Newsom, California recorded its first drop in statewide unsheltered homelessness in 15 years.

Fentanyl The California National Guard seized over 62,000 pounds of fentanyl in 2023, a 116% increase from 2022.

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I worry about residents of the red states, there government has been far less effective in governing and they are suffering bigly.

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN
movielover
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Despite spending $36 Billion, which he can't account for
(2019 - 2026), the total homeless population rose by 14% or more, to over 181,000 - 187,000 individuals as of early 2026.

California has consistently maintained the highest gasoline prices in the nation, driven by high taxes, environmental regulations, and periodic refinery issues that create supply shortages. While Newsom signed laws to curb price spikes, including potential profit caps, state oversight has been accused of failing to implement these tools, leading to continued price volatility, such as a sharp spike in early 2026.

Electricity bills have also risen significantly due to infrastructure costs and climate-related fees.

Fentanyl-related deaths in California rose significantly during Governor Gavin Newsom's term, with the synthetic opioid becoming the primary driver of a record-setting overdose crisis. Deaths soared between 2019 and 2023.

Only two homes have been rebuilt in Pacific Palisades.

Budgets: Califirnia's budgets swung wildly under Newsom, showing no adult planning, restraint, or focus to solve real ongoing issues (ex.: forest load, drug use, water storage).

We went from historic surpluses to record deficits. Following a nearly $100 billion surplus in 2022 due to overestimated revenues, a structural deficit emerged, resulting in four consecutive years of shortfalls, with a projected $18 billion to $45 billion deficit by early 2026.

Home construction: Despite a 2019 target for 3.5 million new units by 2025, California has only produced roughly 100,000 - 120,000 units annually, twenty percent of his own goal.

Undocumented immigrants health care: Spending between $8.5 billion and $9.5 billion on this healthcare expansion for undocumented immigrants, with some estimates citing up to $13.1 billion in the current budget, has blown a massive whole in the state budget.

Train to Nowhere: Over $15 billion wasted on the biggest White Elephant in history.
SBGold
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movielover said:

Despite spending $36 Billion, which he can't account for
(2019 - 2026), the total homeless population rose by 14% or more, to over 181,000 - 187,000 individuals as of early 2026.

California has consistently maintained the highest gasoline prices in the nation, driven by high taxes, environmental regulations, and periodic refinery issues that create supply shortages. While Newsom signed laws to curb price spikes, including potential profit caps, state oversight has been accused of failing to implement these tools, leading to continued price volatility, such as a sharp spike in early 2026.

Electricity bills have also risen significantly due to infrastructure costs and climate-related fees.

Fentanyl-related deaths in California rose significantly during Governor Gavin Newsom's term, with the synthetic opioid becoming the primary driver of a record-setting overdose crisis. Deaths soared between 2019 and 2023.

Only two homes have been rebuilt in Pacific Palisades.

Budgets: Califirnia's budgets swung wildly under Newsom, showing no adult planning, restraint, or focus to solve real ongoing issues (ex.: forest load, drug use, water storage).

We went from historic surpluses to record deficits. Following a nearly $100 billion surplus in 2022 due to overestimated revenues, a structural deficit emerged, resulting in four consecutive years of shortfalls, with a projected $18 billion to $45 billion deficit by early 2026.

Home construction: Despite a 2019 target for 3.5 million new units by 2025, California has only produced roughly 100,000 - 120,000 units annually, twenty percent of his own goal.

Undocumented immigrants health care: Spending between $8.5 billion and $9.5 billion on this healthcare expansion for undocumented immigrants, with some estimates citing up to $13.1 billion in the current budget, has blown a massive whole in the state budget.

Train to Nowhere: Over $15 billion wasted on the biggest White Elephant in history.

Your AI hallucinated, sorry.

Choose Kindness
movielover
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Facts matter, not empty PR spin.
SBGold
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All of what I posted was 100% accurate and you know. The economic engine, the healthcare investment, the support for students, the gun control violence numbers, you can't discount any of those things.

Trump doesn't have any of those victories. He's spiraling in moral decay and we are a laughingstock now

VOTE BLUE and VOTE GAVIN
 
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