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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:18p, 1/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
Every single thing actually. What's your point?

I think I showed footage from multiple angles showing that the officer was not hit, or a best he was brushed. Certainly not hurt. But I guess you will believe what you want.
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Woke Bebo strikes again

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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 6:28p, 1/8/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:


You can't say she deserved to be killed, and condemn the killing of Ashli Babbitt at the same time. Both were egregious acts of senseless state police violence.

This also applies to those who are condemning her killing and saying that of Babbitt was justified.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:32p, 1/8/26
I believe what I see and I see he was hit. The body recoil doesn't happen without that fact.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:33p, 1/8/26
What do you think this proves?
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:36p, 1/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
I believe what I see and I see he was hit. The body recoil doesn't happen without that fact.

Other angles show that he was not, and the blurriness of the other footage is tricking your eyes.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:40p, 1/8/26
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:


You can't say she deserved to be killed, and condemn the killing of Ashli Babbitt at the same time. Both were egregious acts of senseless state police violence.

This also applies to those who are condemning her killing and saying that of Babbitt was justified.

Babbitt was actively trying to break into a building when she was shot, was she not? Seems pretty different.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:40p, 1/8/26
Lmao no but okay

I'll refer you back to this post.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:49p, 1/8/26
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:


You can't say she deserved to be killed, and condemn the killing of Ashli Babbitt at the same time. Both were egregious acts of senseless state police violence.

This also applies to those who are condemning her killing and saying that of Babbitt was justified.

Babbitt was actively trying to break into a building when she was shot, was she not? Seems pretty different.


Renee Good was also actively disrupting state officials, it's actually pretty similar.
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:06p, 1/8/26
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:


You can't say she deserved to be killed, and condemn the killing of Ashli Babbitt at the same time. Both were egregious acts of senseless state police violence.

This also applies to those who are condemning her killing and saying that of Babbitt was justified.

Babbitt was actively trying to break into a building when she was shot, was she not? Seems pretty different.


Renee Good was also actively disrupting state officials, it's actually pretty similar.


The context of Babbitt shooting;

"Multiple investigative reports and timelines establish that extensive physical violence against police occurred well before she was shot at approximately 2:44 PM.

Detailed findings regarding the violence prior to the shooting include:
Widespread Assaults: Reports from as early as 1:30 PMover an hour before the shootingdocumented that several police officers were already injured as rioters breached the first barricades.

Specific Brutality: Shortly after 2:00 PM, three D.C. Metropolitan police officers were dragged from their formation, pulled down stairs, and beaten with improvised weapons including hockey sticks, crutches, and stolen police shields.

By the end of the day, at least 140 to 174 officers had sustained injuries ranging from concussions and broken bones to traumatic brain injuries."
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I would like to see details of the context of the Renee Nicole Good shooting. The Trump Administration knows the importance of context of a shooting because it has made vague statements about ICE officers being mistreated before Ms. Good was summarily executed. Show me the money. How had officers been abused prior to the shooting that made the officer so quick to use deadly force. Wasn't he the only officer that pulled?
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:12p, 1/8/26
Cal88 said:
You can't say she deserved to be killed, and condemn the killing of Ashli Babbitt at the same time. Both were egregious acts of senseless state police violence.

This also applies to those who are condemning her killing and saying that of Babbitt was justified.

Both of them didn't deserve to be killed.

But the ICE agent may have been justified to open fire in self-defense. The details in the two incidents are different.
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:16p, 1/8/26
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:


You can't say she deserved to be killed, and condemn the killing of Ashli Babbitt at the same time. Both were egregious acts of senseless state police violence.

This also applies to those who are condemning her killing and saying that of Babbitt was justified.

Babbitt was actively trying to break into a building when she was shot, was she not? Seems pretty different.


Renee Good was also actively disrupting state officials, it's actually pretty similar.

You may have a different definition of "actively" than I do.
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7:17p, 1/8/26
Timberwolves hold a moment of silence for Renee Nicole Good
https://bsky.app/profile/reichten.bsky.social/post/3mbxcihpgrk2q
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:26p, 1/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
Lmao no but okay

I'll refer you back to this post.

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In reply to sycasey • 7:53p, 1/8/26
No you're just being completely biased in your analysis
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In reply to sycasey • 7:55p, 1/8/26
Pretending she didn't hit him doesn't make it factual or damning. Take your blue lense glasses off for a minute and watch again
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In reply to sycasey • 7:59p, 1/8/26
You lost me at "NYT".

Liberals searching for their George Floyd / Trayvon Martin Flashpoint to distract from the multi-department, multi-state, multi-Billion fraud schemes being run by Democrat-affiliated groups on an epic scale.

The theories include that tens of Billions, or even hundreds of Billions, are sent out, a big chunk which is fraud. Lots of it goes to NGOs, offshore NGOs, and elsewhere, a certain percentage goes to employ local Democrats, relatives of the cause, along with monies being routed back directly into politicians campaigns, as well as get out the vote activities (legal and illegal).

What is discovered in Minnesota will likely inform investigations in other states.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 8:03p, 1/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
No you're just being completely biased in your analysis

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8:05p, 1/8/26
When your team comes up with a police use of force expert that opines the Renee Good shooting was justifiable, please post the link.
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In reply to sycasey • 8:11p, 1/8/26
Thank you. That literally shows him being hit.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 8:12p, 1/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
Thank you. That literally shows him being hit.

You see what you want to see.
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In reply to sycasey • 8:14p, 1/8/26
Again what I want to see is her getting out of the car and complying with officers.

What I see is a tragedy that she caused by hitting the officer.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 8:19p, 1/8/26
BearlySane88 said:
Again what I want to see is her getting out of the car and complying with officers.

What I see is a tragedy that she caused by hitting the officer.

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In reply to sycasey • 8:38p, 1/8/26
Yep that doesn't show her getting out of the car. That doesn't show her complying with officers. She put herself in that position and made the worst choice of her life.

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In reply to sycasey • 8:38p, 1/8/26
Didn't watch the video but if the quote is accurate I whole heartedly do not support or agree with this.

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In reply to sycasey • 8:53p, 1/8/26
For what it's worth, literally everyone I've seen is denouncing this on twitter. This is not MAGA, this is a deranged lunatic.

I have never heard of this guy before but apparently it is is a pretty big belief of MAGA X influencer who not only denounce this guy but also claim he is a paid leftist troll and has been doing this kind of stuff for awhile now. I personally doubt that's true but it's not just fringe people saying it.

Much more likely this guy is a groyper.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 10:42p, 1/8/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:

The gang members also called the police afterward, very polite of them.

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In reply to socaltownie • 12:19a, 1/9/26
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PAC-10-BEAR said:
The ICE agent is the SAME AGENT who required 33 stitches after an illegal alien dragged him 100 yards while his arm was still inside the car.

The vehicle ACCELERATED and WEAVED - resulting in some bad lacerations for this officer.

CBS: "[He] has over 10 years experience. He is a member of the ICE ERO Special Response Team (SRT) a specially trained tactical unit within ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations."

_IF_ true (and yes, I don't trust anything out of this administration's pie hole) it just means you are a ****ing bad LEO. Why was his arm inside a car with a suspect? It is the most dangerous thing one could do as today an accelerator and tomorrow a .45 sitting on the passenger seat.

I PERSONALLY have little interest in trying to dissect a bunch of videos or listen to talking heads about criminal liability. A jury will determine that. But what is ABO****ELY essentially indisputable is that that they way this incident was handed badly. We can have a legitimate debate about ICE and mass deportation. We can even have an honest debate about sanctuary cities. But it feels that every american should want better LEO action and practices than being shown near daily by ICE and DEMAND that the agency actually do its job in a way that minimizes the threat from it toward citiizens and the self harm it is doing to iself by acting like rent a cops.


Here you go.
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