Wow

Did ICE fucking repost an old Reddit photo and call it that guy’s gun??? pic.twitter.com/YuTYOv2Dwg

— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) January 25, 2026

LOL at the proposed Community Notes pointing out Perez just voted for funding ICE. Virtue signalling never goes out of style in the Democratic Party.

Nice post - hey what’s this about pic.twitter.com/GdSWRFeEAT

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) January 25, 2026

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Did ICE fucking repost an old Reddit photo and call it that guy’s gun??? pic.twitter.com/YuTYOv2Dwg

— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) January 25, 2026

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Context: The handgun image in this post is a recent photo from the 01/24/2026, Minneapolis shooting incident, as released by DHS.

Claims that it’s old stem from a misinterpretation of reverse image search results; the photo was uploaded today to a pre-existing Reddit thread.

— Jon Elder (@BlackLabelAdvsr) January 25, 2026

This is false.

The result you're seeing is due to a faulty Google Lens catalog result - It's mixing up the image with a real post/date.

That image does appear on that Reddit thread, but it was posted just a few hours ago. https://t.co/17xm7EjtgY pic.twitter.com/Fu9HuGwl5l

— Tal Hagin (@talhagin) January 24, 2026

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— Lee Fang (@lhfang) January 24, 2026

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The authorities shot a white man with a gun. Why is the left upset?

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— SkinnyFat Tony (@SkinnyfatTony) January 24, 2026

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🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER PERSON SHOT IN MINNEAPOLIS

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The liberal strategy on this, I guess, is since not enough people don't care about brown people being arrested and abused for being brown people, let's get as many dumbass white liberals to start physical confrontations with ICE agents that will always end in ICE 7, Confrontational Liberal 0. And that's not to say that the ICE agent is always right or is ever right even once in the situation for shooting the other person, but that the angry white liberal is never ever ever going to come out the winner in that situation.

If you think that's a cause worth throwing your life away for, by all means let's thin the herd of these dumbass white liberals who think they can confront armed feds and come out the winner. Less future idiots who will vote for vapid idiots like Gavin Newsom, Jasmine Crockett, Kamala Harris, et al.

Better smarter strategy is to protest non-violently with your voice and your words and your signs, and your stupid chants and stop threatening armed feds who are looking for any excuse to shoot you.

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This argument is self-contradictory several times over and basically advocates for the same feckless response you criticize Dem politicians for. I guess this is the result of being nominally against ICE but also needing to always position yourself against those annoying liberals for some reason.

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MLK found a way to protest non-violently and won the hearts and minds of people as a result. There were people that participated that were murdered, but they didn't do anything to provoke the people that killed them.

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What? MLK's people absolutely knew they were provoking the cops. In those days, sitting at a segregated lunch counter was sure to provoke a response. They did that on purpose, knowing that the violet crackdown would engender sympathy when the TV cameras captured it. This was their whole strategy. I'm not sure how much you actually know about this history.

Yes, they protested non-violently. Can you argue that the guy killed today was doing anything violent?

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He did physically push an ICE agent

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Right about the 30 second mark of that video when he got in between the ICE agent and the woman on the ground

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Wrong. He stepped in between, no push. Only push was from ICE.

Newly published footage of today’s shooting of 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti by agents with Border Patrol and Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Minneapolis, Minnesota. pic.twitter.com/oqo7Kp4wR6

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 25, 2026

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The camera turns away when I think the push happens.

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Not there from this angle either.

The gun is removed by an ice agent before they start shooting and then the other agents start panicking asking where the gun is after he’s shot

Anyone trying to defend this has a sub 100 iq level pic.twitter.com/srw9Wwt0J6

— Truth Seeker (@truthcertainty7) January 24, 2026

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He definitely puts hands on the ICE agent at the 3/4 second mark

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You said he pushed him. Where?

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When he put hands on him at the 3/4 second mark. Put his arm into the ICE agent and that's a no no. Like bumping a ref in football.

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So you've retreated from "pushed" to "put hands." Oh no, he touched the ICE agent as he moved past him.

Remember that this whole thread started with me saying that Pretti behaved non-violently. I think I'll stand by that.

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I'm not retreating, my bad I haven't memorized the incident like you have. Did he put hands on an ICE agent? Did he get in between an ICE agent and another individual? He's no longer just an observer when he put himself in those situations.

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Yes, I already said Pretti put himself in between the agent and the woman he was pushing around. You said he pushed the agent. He did not.

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Now you're just arguing semantics. He put his hands on the agent and interfered

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I'm gonna say the difference between "pushed the agent" and "put hands on" is pretty big, but if you admit there was no push then okay.

I don't care what anyone says.

No one spends hours upon hours outside in arctic temperatures unless they're getting paid big money to do so.

— Mr. Star Spangled MAGA (@4thOfJuly365) January 25, 2026

I just don’t understand the appeal of trying to get yourself killed by ICE

you have basically 3 days to a week where people study the footage like the Zapruder film to determine how at fault you were

no one changes their minds

then the Broncos play

— Gene Parmesan (@dsonoiki) January 24, 2026

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I don't care what anyone says.

No one spends hours upon hours outside in arctic temperatures unless they're getting paid big money to do so.

— Mr. Star Spangled MAGA (@4thOfJuly365) January 25, 2026

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I did when I lived in North Dakota. Even in winter, there were things that needed to be done outdoors. You just bundled up and did it.

The male protestors are blowing rape whistles at ICE.

When Charlie Kirk was killed MAGA reacted like no one had ever died before, let alone at the hands of a disaffected young white man raised in a conservative home, as Kirk’s assailant had been. They wanted the world to stop and then they turned into a branding event and grifting…

— NoelCaslerComedy (@caslernoel) January 24, 2026

what’s scary about this ICE stuff is that it could have happened to any of us

any of us could have traveled to Minnesota to agitate ICE agents and try to get them to kill us

— Gene Parmesan (@dsonoiki) January 25, 2026

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The media market dynamics have never been so bad. Online influencers can lie over and over again and get paid millions via views on YouTube, TikTok and X spinning culture war. Responsible journalists carefully reporting the facts and fixing mistakes get laid off. It’s awful.

— Lee Fang (@lhfang) January 24, 2026

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Misinterpreting a situation (and posing it as a question) is quite different than repeatedly lying as certain people and agencies have been doing ad nauseum, but I agree with this tweet that good journalism is very important. Journalism seems like it is in decline with more and more outlets getting bought by people who are more loyal to Trump (or wealth/access) than to the survival of our democracy. For example the WaPo and LA Times owners blocking editorials critical of Trump, Trump suing "60 Minutes" and then CBS getting new owners/managers and trying to appease him.

And has had a VERY adversarial relationship with journalism....look at all this stuff from 2017 and prior, to say nothing of what has been said and done since then:
https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/donald-trump-thinks-freedom-press-disgusting

Wow, the lack of care for the loss of life is totally reprehensible. This is MAGA

100%

We need a new census earlier.

Raise your hand if you knew that after the 2020 census, the State of Minnesota came the closest to losing a House seat in reapportionment but not actually having it happen.

The last seat lost was by New York. By a margin of about 500 residents, Minnesota held on to its 8th…

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) January 25, 2026

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Wow, the lack of care for the loss of life is totally reprehensible. This is MAGA

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Yup.

Many here see absolutely nothing wrong with how Trump has been using ICE.

Notice that not a single poster has ever questioned why there has been no effort by Trump to de-escalate. Instead, every one of these Pro Trumpers wind up BLAMING the victim and claim that the use of DEADLY FORCE was legit, even if it meant 10 shots fired on an unarmed U.S. citizen.

Not even a single mention of using a Taser.
Or any notion of de-escalation expressed.

Such is the life of a keyboard warrior.
Reality is just a video game.

No empathy required.

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🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER PERSON SHOT IN MINNEAPOLIS

pic.twitter.com/fO4OfgJ7Wb

— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) January 24, 2026

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The liberal strategy on this, I guess, is since not enough people don't care about brown people being arrested and abused for being brown people, let's get as many dumbass white liberals to start physical confrontations with ICE agents that will always end in ICE 7, Confrontational Liberal 0. And that's not to say that the ICE agent is always right or is ever right even once in the situation for shooting the other person, but that the angry white liberal is never ever ever going to come out the winner in that situation.

If you think that's a cause worth throwing your life away for, by all means let's thin the herd of these dumbass white liberals who think they can confront armed feds and come out the winner. Less future idiots who will vote for vapid idiots like Gavin Newsom, Jasmine Crockett, Kamala Harris, et al.

Better smarter strategy is to protest non-violently with your voice and your words and your signs, and your stupid chants and stop threatening armed feds who are looking for any excuse to shoot you.

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This argument is self-contradictory several times over and basically advocates for the same feckless response you criticize Dem politicians for. I guess this is the result of being nominally against ICE but also needing to always position yourself against those annoying liberals for some reason.

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MLK found a way to protest non-violently and won the hearts and minds of people as a result. There were people that participated that were murdered, but they didn't do anything to provoke the people that killed them.

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What? MLK's people absolutely knew they were provoking the cops. In those days, sitting at a segregated lunch counter was sure to provoke a response. They did that on purpose, knowing that the violet crackdown would engender sympathy when the TV cameras captured it. This was their whole strategy. I'm not sure how much you actually know about this history.

Yes, they protested non-violently. Can you argue that the guy killed today was doing anything violent?

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Right about the 30 second mark of that video when he got in between the ICE agent and the woman on the ground

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Wrong. He stepped in between, no push. Only push was from ICE.

Newly published footage of today’s shooting of 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti by agents with Border Patrol and Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Minneapolis, Minnesota. pic.twitter.com/oqo7Kp4wR6

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 25, 2026

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The camera turns away when I think the push happens.

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Not there from this angle either.

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He definitely puts hands on the ICE agent at the 3/4 second mark

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You said he pushed him. Where?

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When he put hands on him at the 3/4 second mark. Put his arm into the ICE agent and that's a no no. Like bumping a ref in football.

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So you've retreated from "pushed" to "put hands." Oh no, he touched the ICE agent as he moved past him.

Remember that this whole thread started with me saying that Pretti behaved non-violently. I think I'll stand by that.

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I'm not retreating, my bad I haven't memorized the incident like you have. Did he put hands on an ICE agent? Did he get in between an ICE agent and another individual? He's no longer just an observer when he put himself in those situations.

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Yes, I already said Pretti put himself in between the agent and the woman he was pushing around. You said he pushed the agent. He did not.

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Now you're just arguing semantics. He put his hands on the agent and interfered

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I'm gonna say the difference between "pushed the agent" and "put hands on" is pretty big, but if you admit there was no push then okay.

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It's not that big when both are things you shouldn't do and would lead to the same outcome with an officer of the law. It wasn't like a pat on the back or anything but sure he didn't push him

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The media market dynamics have never been so bad. Online influencers can lie over and over again and get paid millions via views on YouTube, TikTok and X spinning culture war. Responsible journalists carefully reporting the facts and fixing mistakes get laid off. It’s awful.

— Lee Fang (@lhfang) January 24, 2026

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Misinterpreting a situation (and posing it as a question) is quite different than repeatedly lying as certain people and agencies have been doing ad nauseum, but I agree with this tweet that good journalism is very important. Journalism seems like it is in decline with more and more outlets getting bought by people who are more loyal to Trump (or wealth/access) than to the survival of our democracy. For example the WaPo and LA Times owners blocking editorials critical of Trump, Trump suing "60 Minutes" and then CBS getting new owners/managers and trying to appease him.

And has had a VERY adversarial relationship with journalism....look at all this stuff from 2017 and prior, to say nothing of what has been said and done since then:
https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/donald-trump-thinks-freedom-press-disgusting

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Trump sued 60 minutes because they put out misleading and edited footage to make him look bad. Intentionally. That's not good journalism, that's propaganda.

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Yup.

Many here see absolutely nothing wrong with how Trump has been using ICE.

Notice that not a single poster has ever questioned why there has been no effort by Trump to de-escalate. Instead, every one of these Pro Trumpers wind up BLAMING the victim and claim that the use of DEADLY FORCE was legit, even if it meant 10 shots fired on an unarmed U.S. citizen.

Not even a single mention of using a Taser.
Or any notion of de-escalation expressed.

Such is the life of a keyboard warrior.
Reality is just a video game.

No empathy required.

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You think law enforcement should use a taser against a gun? You might be the one playing a video game because that's not how LEO's operate in real life.

Nobody has posted calling for Minnesota's leaders to turn down the volume either.

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Just to be clear, I said at least 3 times yesterday that it sucks this man died and I wish death on no one.

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🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER PERSON SHOT IN MINNEAPOLIS

pic.twitter.com/fO4OfgJ7Wb

— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) January 24, 2026

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The liberal strategy on this, I guess, is since not enough people care about brown people being arrested and abused for being brown people, let's get as many dumbass white liberals to start physical confrontations with ICE agents that will always end in ICE 7, Confrontational Liberal 0. And that's not to say that the ICE agent is always right or is ever right even once in the situation for shooting the other person, but that the angry white liberal is never ever ever going to come out the winner in that situation.

If you think that's a cause worth throwing your life away for, by all means let's thin the herd of these dumbass white liberals who think they can confront armed feds and come out the winner. Less future idiots who will vote for vapid idiots like Gavin Newsom, Jasmine Crockett, Kamala Harris, et al.

Better smarter strategy is to protest non-violently with your voice and your words and your signs, and your stupid chants and stop threatening armed feds who are looking for any excuse to shoot you.

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I agree that it makes no sense to confront people with guns who a) are not local and b) ready to use them. It's more like US soldiers in Iraq than police who are under the auspices of government

Where we disagree is that this part of an organized "liberal" protest at the behest of Dem pols. It's not and not like the bull$hot " No Kings" which is.

What is going on in Minnesota is surveillance of ICE through local signal groups. Local groups know where they are at any moment and are often there minutes after they are. The people that are missing are local police and that creates a flash point between the occupiers and would be resisters ( who if smarter would take the tactics of either non violence or the IRA). Instead everything is treated as a recording

There is a lot else happening which is less reported. There are food drives and material drives for immigrants. There was an organized strike, where businesses voluntarily closed. There have been protests against airlines flying deportees out and boycotts of businesses. Minneapolis is not businesss as usual

The Democratic Party is against all of this because it disturbs the status quo. Their approach is to have Gavin Newsom tweet that Kristi Noem should resign.

So let the protests continue but with better tactics.

I waded in this thread to know who to block and never trust their opinion about anything.

My IGNORE LIST continues to grow after yesterday.

Oski003
Movielover
BearlySane
Aunburdened
PAC-10 BEAR

Too bad it isn't an absolute ignore feature and still shows "quotes" from people on my list when other posters reply to them. As a result, you will invariably come across posts (indirectly) of those you have on IGNORE.

Just be aware of that.

"Minneapolis' fragile stitches held for 17 days before the wound ripped back open with a federal agent's fatal shooting of a 37-year-old nurse yesterday morning, Axios Twin Cities' Torey Van Oot writes.

For the second time in less than a month, a U.S. citizen was killed by federal law enforcement while protesting an immigration operation that has roiled Minnesota.

As with the killing of Renee Good in early January, cell phone videos of the deadly encounter between agents and Alex Pretti instantly spread online.

Video shows that Pretti was stripped of a gun during the scrum before he was struck by multiple gunshots.

An N.Y. Times analysis found that verified videos on social media "appear to contradict the Department of Homeland Security's account … Footage shows Mr. Pretti was clearly holding a phone, not a gun, before the agents took him to the ground and shot him."

The big picture: This is the definition of a war by choice, Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen write.

Trump chose to use ICE to expand immigration enforcement beyond clear-cut violent criminals.

He chose to recruit new ICE agents and rush their training.

He chose to target Minnesota then chose again and again to escalate.

He chose to downplay incidents where ICE beat or killed U.S. citizens.

He chose to let top officials make unverified accusations that contradict reality.

Pretti, an ICU nurse at a VA hospital, had a concealed gun on him when he began to struggle with Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis' Whittier neighborhood.

Pretti was a U.S. citizen, born in Illinois. Family members said he had a permit to carry a concealed handgun in Minnesota.

Being there: Tense standoffs and clashes between protesters and law enforcement in the immediate aftermath of the shooting gave way by the evening to solemn vigils. Residents gathered in parks and on street corners in the frigid cold to light the night with candles."
Axios


A photo of 37-year-old Alex Pretti is seen at a makeshift memorial near the spot where he was shot dead by a U.S. Border Patrol agent yesterday in Minneapolis. Photo: Roberto Schmidt/AFP via Getty Images


DHS posted this account on X at 12:31 p.m. ET



Crowd-control munitions are deployed on protesters in Minneapolis, near the intersection of 26th Street and Nicollet Avenue, after federal agents shot and killed Alex Pretti yesterday. Photo: David Guttenfelder/The New York TimEs

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🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER PERSON SHOT IN MINNEAPOLIS

pic.twitter.com/fO4OfgJ7Wb

— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) January 24, 2026

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The liberal strategy on this, I guess, is since not enough people care about brown people being arrested and abused for being brown people, let's get as many dumbass white liberals to start physical confrontations with ICE agents that will always end in ICE 7, Confrontational Liberal 0. And that's not to say that the ICE agent is always right or is ever right even once in the situation for shooting the other person, but that the angry white liberal is never ever ever going to come out the winner in that situation.

If you think that's a cause worth throwing your life away for, by all means let's thin the herd of these dumbass white liberals who think they can confront armed feds and come out the winner. Less future idiots who will vote for vapid idiots like Gavin Newsom, Jasmine Crockett, Kamala Harris, et al.

Better smarter strategy is to protest non-violently with your voice and your words and your signs, and your stupid chants and stop threatening armed feds who are looking for any excuse to shoot you.

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I agree that it makes no sense to confront people with guns who a) are not local and b) ready to use them. It's more like US soldiers in Iraq than police who are under the auspices of government

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Perhaps, but let's be honest: most of the public would likely not know how abusive ICE is being without some of these "dumba*s white liberals" forcing the confrontations. These incidents captured on video are quickly turning public opinion and forcing the politicians to react.

It also seems to me, based on the videos, that it's largely ICE being confrontational here. Protestors are there being generally annoying but ICE chooses to engage people they could otherwise just leave alone.

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My IGNORE LIST continues to grow after yesterday.

Oski003
Movielover
BearlySane
Aunburdened
PAC-10 BEAR

Too bad it isn't an absolute ignore feature and still shows "quotes" from people on my list when other posters reply to them. As a result, you will invariably come across posts (indirectly) of those you have on IGNORE.

Just be aware of that.

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We all thank you!

But seriously, avoiding opinions you don't like or agree with is a great way to never reach common ground. It's important to hear all sides. You've chosen against that and that's your right but don't be surprised when you have no idea how half of America feels.

FACT:

6 ICE Agents had Alex Pretti on the ground and restrained.

FACT:

They still shot him dead.

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It also seems to me, based on the videos, that it's largely ICE being confrontational here. Protestors are there being generally annoying but ICE chooses to engage people they could otherwise just leave alone.

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The Minneapolis police chief said that 10,000 people had participated in peaceful protests leading up to yesterday's tragedy. He also said that there wasn't a single incident with law enforcement.

But posters here and the Trump Administration will continue to gaslight Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota.

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🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER PERSON SHOT IN MINNEAPOLIS

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— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) January 24, 2026

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The liberal strategy on this, I guess, is since not enough people care about brown people being arrested and abused for being brown people, let's get as many dumbass white liberals to start physical confrontations with ICE agents that will always end in ICE 7, Confrontational Liberal 0. And that's not to say that the ICE agent is always right or is ever right even once in the situation for shooting the other person, but that the angry white liberal is never ever ever going to come out the winner in that situation.

If you think that's a cause worth throwing your life away for, by all means let's thin the herd of these dumbass white liberals who think they can confront armed feds and come out the winner. Less future idiots who will vote for vapid idiots like Gavin Newsom, Jasmine Crockett, Kamala Harris, et al.

Better smarter strategy is to protest non-violently with your voice and your words and your signs, and your stupid chants and stop threatening armed feds who are looking for any excuse to shoot you.

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I agree that it makes no sense to confront people with guns who a) are not local and b) ready to use them. It's more like US soldiers in Iraq than police who are under the auspices of government

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These incidents captured on video are quickly turning public opinion and forcing the politicians to react.

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Are they? I'm not saying you're wrong but I haven't seen any one switch sides over this. It just emboldens both sides and whatever their original belief was is now stronger, imo.

Independent Senator from Maine Angus King questions whether Congress should be supporting a budget that includes $10 Billion for ICE. Cites the possibility of a govt shutdown, voting against such a budget.

Maine Sen. Collins at center of ICE funding fight after another deadly shooting in Minnesota

https://share.google/npqA47mmzVoz9cx7p

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He moved in front of a LEO, got between the LEO and the lady while the LEO was engaged with her. This is not okay. He was an idiot that created a situation for himself. Stay on the street and protest peacefully and you go home to your loved ones. Do stupid **** and you create the possibility of something tragically bad happening. This is not complicated.

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Any words for the ICE officer who was shoving women around who seemed to pose no threat?

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If someone is obstructing, threatening or interfering arrest them. Letting the courts handle it is better than pushing people to the ground. If they are not obstructing, threatening or interfering then keep your hands to yourself.

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I guess weak excuses qualify as words.

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Independent Senator from Maine Angus King questions whether Congress should be supporting a budget that includes $10 Billion for ICE. Cites the possibility of a govt shutdown, voting against such a budget.

Maine Sen. Collins at center of ICE funding fight after another deadly shooting in Minnesota

https://share.google/npqA47mmzVoz9cx7p

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Dems need to come up with a good political strategy where it looks like they want to reform ICE, not abolish it. Seems like it wouldn't be hard to come up with some specifics.

"Defund the police" was a disaster, even though hardly any mainstream Dems ever said that or wanted to do it.

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