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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:04a, 2/4/26
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The vast majority of people that go on his site are left leaning or Trump hating republicans. No surprising the results look like that

…and all the people that go on this site futilely attempting to twist logic and reason into balloon animals to excuse/justify/apologize for every bizarre/anti American/stupid/senile/anti Democratic/fascist/corrupt action taken by Trump and his Administration, are extreme Right Wingers with no self awareness.
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In reply to oski003 • 11:06a, 2/4/26
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Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).
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In reply to bearister • 11:08a, 2/4/26
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BearlySane88 said:


The vast majority of people that go on his site are left leaning or Trump hating republicans. No surprising the results look like that

…and all the people that go on this site futilely attempting to twist logic and reason into balloon animals to excuse/justify/apologize for every bizarre/anti American/stupid/senile/anti Democratic/fascist/corrupt action taken by Trump and his Administration, are extreme Right Wingers with no self awareness.


lol I'm definitely not extreme right wing. I support gay marriage, I'm pro choice, I support legal immigration, I'm not a whites only person, etc…
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In reply to sycasey • 11:10a, 2/4/26
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oski003 said:
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Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:19a, 2/4/26
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sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime

I'm sure you are correct about current law. Something being the current law does not always mean the system is just.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:28a, 2/4/26
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oski003 said:
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Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.


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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:33a, 2/4/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime


Where do we draw a line? Ten million have legally filed and are fulfilling our requirements, background checks, and laws. Giving millions Amnesty will encourage more illegal behavior. Not to mention the birthright travesty, an amendment specifically written for freed slaves - giving them the option to stay here, or leave.

CCP China reportedly has had one million women give birth here in order to secure US citizenship, and the cartels allegedly are also seeding our nation.
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In reply to movielover • 12:23p, 2/4/26
movielover said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime


Where do we draw a line? Ten million have legally filed and are fulfilling our requirements, background checks, and laws. Giving millions Amnesty will encourage more illegal behavior. Not to mention the birthright travesty, an amendment specifically written for freed slaves - giving them the option to stay here, or leave.

CCP China reportedly has had one million women give birth here in order to secure US citizenship, and the cartels allegedly are also seeding our nation.


I personally view birthright citizenship as a bigger issue than amnesty. You could feasibly give amnesty to those who have been for 10+ years and are tax payers and then cut that system off. Birthright on the other hand is just ripe for abuse
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12:27p, 2/4/26
I wonder what would happen if the police started pulling over and ticketing everybody that drove over 65 on the freeway
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 1:03p, 2/4/26
BearlySane88 said:
movielover said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime


Where do we draw a line? Ten million have legally filed and are fulfilling our requirements, background checks, and laws. Giving millions Amnesty will encourage more illegal behavior. Not to mention the birthright travesty, an amendment specifically written for freed slaves - giving them the option to stay here, or leave.

CCP China reportedly has had one million women give birth here in order to secure US citizenship, and the cartels allegedly are also seeding our nation.


I personally view birthright citizenship as a bigger issue than amnesty. You could feasibly give amnesty to those who have been for 10+ years and are tax payers and then cut that system off. Birthright on the other hand is just ripe for abuse

How would birthright citizenship be changed, to your liking? (I mean, leaving aside that it's in the Constitution so probably not happening.)

On amnesty: part of the issue is that we offer it but then don't fix the underlying immigration system to be more orderly so we are just back in the same boat in a generation. If you are going to offer it to existing undocumented folks who meet the requirements, there needs to be a full overhaul of the system so the problem doesn't persist. Both parties are responsible for kicking this can down the road. I might start with adjusting the asylum rules so they are not so easily abused by people just being physically present at the border.
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In reply to oski003 • 1:09p, 2/4/26
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DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.
which then, in light of this bar chart, raises other questions.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 1:43p, 2/4/26
BearlySane88 said:
movielover said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime


Where do we draw a line? Ten million have legally filed and are fulfilling our requirements, background checks, and laws. Giving millions Amnesty will encourage more illegal behavior. Not to mention the birthright travesty, an amendment specifically written for freed slaves - giving them the option to stay here, or leave.

CCP China reportedly has had one million women give birth here in order to secure US citizenship, and the cartels allegedly are also seeding our nation.


I personally view birthright citizenship as a bigger issue than amnesty. You could feasibly give amnesty to those who have been for 10+ years and are tax payers and then cut that system off. Birthright on the other hand is just ripe for abuse


We don't even officially acknowledge the true number of illegal immigrants we have now - 35 - 50 million.

Then how many new applicants rush to get in for Amnesty - plus family?

We don't need 40 million low-cost workers.

How do we pay for 40-million welfare dependant, net $1 million loss per illegal immigrant?

Not to mention the 10 million, many with skills, who followed the legal path, and are waiting in line.

With robots in the near future.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:05p, 2/4/26
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
movielover said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime


Where do we draw a line? Ten million have legally filed and are fulfilling our requirements, background checks, and laws. Giving millions Amnesty will encourage more illegal behavior. Not to mention the birthright travesty, an amendment specifically written for freed slaves - giving them the option to stay here, or leave.

CCP China reportedly has had one million women give birth here in order to secure US citizenship, and the cartels allegedly are also seeding our nation.


I personally view birthright citizenship as a bigger issue than amnesty. You could feasibly give amnesty to those who have been for 10+ years and are tax payers and then cut that system off. Birthright on the other hand is just ripe for abuse

How would birthright citizenship be changed, to your liking? (I mean, leaving aside that it's in the Constitution so probably not happening.)

On amnesty: part of the issue is that we offer it but then don't fix the underlying immigration system to be more orderly so we are just back in the same boat in a generation.If you are going to offer it to existing undocumented folks who meet the requirements, there needs to be a full overhaul of the system so the problem doesn't persist. Both parties are responsible for kicking this can down the road. I might start with adjusting the asylum rules so they are not so easily abused by people just being physically present at the border.


It's a great question and I don't know the answer. Maybe established residency first? There would be flaws and loopholes to that too. People shouldn't be allowed to just show up a day before they give birth and then their child is an American citizen. Nobody really knows but I have to imagine that's not what the framers of the constitution envisioned.
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The 14th Amendment doesn't cover foreign nationals.
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In reply to movielover • 3:51p, 2/4/26
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We don't even officially acknowledge the true number of illegal immigrants we have now - 35 - 50 million.

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movielover said:
We don't even officially acknowledge the true number of illegal immigrants we have now - 35 - 50 million.


sorry, i forget stuff (alot), but weren't the "founding" wet-butts coming here from UK (etc) in sailing ships also illegals?
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In reply to smh • 4:00p, 2/4/26
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sycasey said:
movielover said:
We don't even officially acknowledge the true number of illegal immigrants we have now - 35 - 50 million.


sorry, i forget stuff (alot), but weren't the "founding" wet-butts coming here from UK (etc) in sailing ships also illegals?


And you call us the racists? Good edit to your post. Your initial post definitely didn't say wet butts

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In reply to BearlySane88 • 4:04p, 2/4/26
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> Good edit to your post. Your initial post definitely didn't say wet butts

yeahbutt, wett-baxs was gonna be waay worse; bbs auto-censored as swell
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 4:11p, 2/4/26
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sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
movielover said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime


Where do we draw a line? Ten million have legally filed and are fulfilling our requirements, background checks, and laws. Giving millions Amnesty will encourage more illegal behavior. Not to mention the birthright travesty, an amendment specifically written for freed slaves - giving them the option to stay here, or leave.

CCP China reportedly has had one million women give birth here in order to secure US citizenship, and the cartels allegedly are also seeding our nation.


I personally view birthright citizenship as a bigger issue than amnesty. You could feasibly give amnesty to those who have been for 10+ years and are tax payers and then cut that system off. Birthright on the other hand is just ripe for abuse

How would birthright citizenship be changed, to your liking? (I mean, leaving aside that it's in the Constitution so probably not happening.)

On amnesty: part of the issue is that we offer it but then don't fix the underlying immigration system to be more orderly so we are just back in the same boat in a generation.If you are going to offer it to existing undocumented folks who meet the requirements, there needs to be a full overhaul of the system so the problem doesn't persist. Both parties are responsible for kicking this can down the road. I might start with adjusting the asylum rules so they are not so easily abused by people just being physically present at the border.


It's a great question and I don't know the answer. Maybe established residency first? There would be flaws and loopholes to that too. People shouldn't be allowed to just show up a day before they give birth and then their child is an American citizen. Nobody really knows but I have to imagine that's not what the framers of the constitution envisioned.

They didn't envision people carrying semi-automatic rifles around either, but we're still stuck with the 2nd Amendment unless enough people agree to change it (they won't).
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In reply to smh • 4:31p, 2/4/26
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BearlySane88 said:
> Good edit to your post. Your initial post definitely didn't say wet butts

yeahbutt, wett-baxs was gonna be waay worse; bbs auto-censored as swell


Well yes that's an incredibly racist term that you probably want to refrain from using in society.
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BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
movielover said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:



Yes, but ignoring a final order of removal (deportation) is a violation of U.S. federal law, carrying both civil and criminal penalties. Willfully failing to depart within 90 days of a final order can result in fines, imprisonment for up to four years, and a 10-year bar on re-entry or seeking legal immigration relief.

I'm guessing these people would argue that the laws should be adjusted to give people who have stayed that long a legitimate path to citizenship (or at least permanent residency).


That is possible and I don't necessarily disagree with that view but as the laws currently are, disobeying a final order of removal is a crime


Where do we draw a line? Ten million have legally filed and are fulfilling our requirements, background checks, and laws. Giving millions Amnesty will encourage more illegal behavior. Not to mention the birthright travesty, an amendment specifically written for freed slaves - giving them the option to stay here, or leave.

CCP China reportedly has had one million women give birth here in order to secure US citizenship, and the cartels allegedly are also seeding our nation.


I personally view birthright citizenship as a bigger issue than amnesty. You could feasibly give amnesty to those who have been for 10+ years and are tax payers and then cut that system off. Birthright on the other hand is just ripe for abuse

How would birthright citizenship be changed, to your liking? (I mean, leaving aside that it's in the Constitution so probably not happening.)

On amnesty: part of the issue is that we offer it but then don't fix the underlying immigration system to be more orderly so we are just back in the same boat in a generation.If you are going to offer it to existing undocumented folks who meet the requirements, there needs to be a full overhaul of the system so the problem doesn't persist. Both parties are responsible for kicking this can down the road. I might start with adjusting the asylum rules so they are not so easily abused by people just being physically present at the border.


It's a great question and I don't know the answer. Maybe established residency first? There would be flaws and loopholes to that too. People shouldn't be allowed to just show up a day before they give birth and then their child is an American citizen. Nobody really knows but I have to imagine that's not what the framers of the constitution envisioned.

They didn't envision people carrying semi-automatic rifles around either, but we're still stuck with the 2nd Amendment unless enough people agree to change it (they won't).


I agree, they won't
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> Well yes that's an incredibly racist term that you probably want to refrain from using in society.

done and, um, done # nighty night BS
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Will I ever get tired of pointing out how the Democratic Party is not the ally of the anti-ICE crowd?



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Drug overdose deaths and homicides both down over 20% last year.

MAGA!
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In reply to bearister • 5:37a, 2/5/26
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Big C said:
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Jesus Ochoa and Raymundo Gutierrez are the 2 ICE officers that murdered Alex Pretti.

Latino Gestapo?

Why Some Nonwhite Americans Espouse Right-Wing Extremism


Nice.


not surprising considering the number of paint ball warriors out there and video game losers out there. This is their dream job. What is surprising is that you still believe what comes out of Noem's mouth.


Before somebody inevitably crosses the line, could we all commit to not floating any "what comes out of Noem's mouth" jokes?

my bad, I'll do better

You're just the set-up man, but remember, all y'all, Kristi Noem is somebody's daughter and she's somebody's mother. Not to mention, she's a former dog owner. Let's keep it classy!

Kristi Noem is good for one thing and one thing only.




To his credit, most hunting hounds trade an old one in for a new one. He traded for one 17 years older.



If you look at his Wikipedia page, it says he met his wife inn9th grade, and she in 8th.

She was first married to a guy who did aboard flight 175 on 9/11 (!), and four years later they married in 2005, and they have 4 children together. It also says he's Catholic.
How wholesome.


As of early 2026, Corey Lewandowski acts as a top unofficial advisor to U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, holding significant influence over her department and, according to reports, traveling with her internationally. Their long-rumored,, years-long romantic relationship has been widely rumored despite denials, following a brief 2021 separation amid his misconduct allegations.

Key details regarding their relationship:
Advisory Role: Despite not holding an official government position, Lewandowski has been described as a key influencer in Noem's decisions as DHS Secretary.

Controversy: The pair's closeness has caused, according to reports, turmoil within the Department of Homeland Security and concern among advisors to Donald Trump, with some suggesting this partnership is a distraction.
Background: Noem previously cut ties with Lewandowski in 2021 following accusations of sexual misconduct toward a donor's wife, which she called "total garbage" and a "disgusting lie".

Persistent Rumors: Reports in late 2025 indicated that they were understood by colleagues to be romantically involved, with reports of them travelling together on international trips.

The New York Times has described Lewandowski as a constant figure at major events for Noem, including in her capacity as DHS Secretary.
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In reply to bearister • 5:41a, 2/5/26
bearister said:
concordtom said:
Big C said:
cal83dls79 said:
Big C said:
cal83dls79 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
bearister said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
DiabloWags said:
Jesus Ochoa and Raymundo Gutierrez are the 2 ICE officers that murdered Alex Pretti.

Latino Gestapo?

Why Some Nonwhite Americans Espouse Right-Wing Extremism


Nice.


not surprising considering the number of paint ball warriors out there and video game losers out there. This is their dream job. What is surprising is that you still believe what comes out of Noem's mouth.


Before somebody inevitably crosses the line, could we all commit to not floating any "what comes out of Noem's mouth" jokes?

my bad, I'll do better

You're just the set-up man, but remember, all y'all, Kristi Noem is somebody's daughter and she's somebody's mother. Not to mention, she's a former dog owner. Let's keep it classy!

Kristi Noem is good for one thing and one thing only.




To his credit, most hunting hounds trade an old one in for a new one. He traded for one 17 years older.



I guess Trump et al decided the terrorism of Americans thing would be more easily acceptable if it was coming from her, rather than him.
He's such a nasty individual it's too transparent.
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6:01a, 2/5/26
Gutfeld on Democrats hypocrisy.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUGa0z5Ddp_/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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In reply to concordtom • 6:57a, 2/5/26
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bearister said:
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Big C said:
cal83dls79 said:
Big C said:
cal83dls79 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
bearister said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
DiabloWags said:
Jesus Ochoa and Raymundo Gutierrez are the 2 ICE officers that murdered Alex Pretti.

Latino Gestapo?

Why Some Nonwhite Americans Espouse Right-Wing Extremism


Nice.


not surprising considering the number of paint ball warriors out there and video game losers out there. This is their dream job. What is surprising is that you still believe what comes out of Noem's mouth.


Before somebody inevitably crosses the line, could we all commit to not floating any "what comes out of Noem's mouth" jokes?

my bad, I'll do better

You're just the set-up man, but remember, all y'all, Kristi Noem is somebody's daughter and she's somebody's mother. Not to mention, she's a former dog owner. Let's keep it classy!

Kristi Noem is good for one thing and one thing only.




To his credit, most hunting hounds trade an old one in for a new one. He traded for one 17 years older.



If you look at his Wikipedia page, it says he met his wife inn9th grade, and she in 8th.

She was first married to a guy who did aboard flight 175 on 9/11 (!), and four years later they married in 2005, and they have 4 children together. It also says he's Catholic.
How wholesome.


As of early 2026, Corey Lewandowski acts as a top unofficial advisor to U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, holding significant influence over her department and, according to reports, traveling with her internationally. Their long-rumored,, years-long romantic relationship has been widely rumored despite denials, following a brief 2021 separation amid his misconduct allegations.

Key details regarding their relationship:
Advisory Role: Despite not holding an official government position, Lewandowski has been described as a key influencer in Noem's decisions as DHS Secretary.

Controversy: The pair's closeness has caused, according to reports, turmoil within the Department of Homeland Security and concern among advisors to Donald Trump, with some suggesting this partnership is a distraction.
Background: Noem previously cut ties with Lewandowski in 2021 following accusations of sexual misconduct toward a donor's wife, which she called "total garbage" and a "disgusting lie".

Persistent Rumors: Reports in late 2025 indicated that they were understood by colleagues to be romantically involved, with reports of them travelling together on international trips.

The New York Times has described Lewandowski as a constant figure at major events for Noem, including in her capacity as DHS Secretary.


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In reply to oski003 • 7:51a, 2/5/26
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concordtom said:

I would be very entertained to watch some posters here, who say they support ICE, be rounded up by Trump's vigilante (so-called) Justice squad, wrestled to the ground, and have their face shoved in mud, on a case of mistaken identity.

It would make quite the viral video to see them soil their pants in fear, and then turn against Trump in the subsequent interview videos saying "Gosh, I didn't vote for THAT!"


I was arrested once for suspicion of stealing. Wrong place, wrong time. It wasn't fun. It would've been worse if I ran or resisted. I was handcuffed on the ground on the sidewalk for an hour before supervisors arrived and confirmed I was innocent. Could I have sued them? What if I resisted and they had to "wrestle me to the ground and shove my face in mud?". Could I then have sued them?


Sounds like you were detained.
Not arrested.

Probable cause is required for a warrantless arrest in a public place to be legal.
Not merely suspicion.

If you were actually arrested, police would have taken you to a police station and put through a booking process.

Sounds like you were merely "detained".
Thanks for sharing.




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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:00a, 2/5/26
DiabloWags said:
oski003 said:
concordtom said:

I would be very entertained to watch some posters here, who say they support ICE, be rounded up by Trump's vigilante (so-called) Justice squad, wrestled to the ground, and have their face shoved in mud, on a case of mistaken identity.

It would make quite the viral video to see them soil their pants in fear, and then turn against Trump in the subsequent interview videos saying "Gosh, I didn't vote for THAT!"


I was arrested once for suspicion of stealing. Wrong place, wrong time. It wasn't fun. It would've been worse if I ran or resisted. I was handcuffed on the ground on the sidewalk for an hour before supervisors arrived and confirmed I was innocent. Could I have sued them? What if I resisted and they had to "wrestle me to the ground and shove my face in mud?". Could I then have sued them?


Sounds like you were detained.
Not arrested.

Probable cause is required for a warrantless arrest in a public place to be legal.
Not merely suspicion.

If you were actually arrested, police would have taken you to a police station and put through a booking process.

Sounds like you were merely "detained".
Thanks for sharing.




I may have seen this on Scared Straight or was it Unlocked?
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In reply to sycasey • 8:01a, 2/5/26
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We don't even officially acknowledge the true number of illegal immigrants we have now - 35 - 50 million.



I'm not surprised by this post above that offers ZERO substantiation.







Record 14 Million Unauthorized Immigrants Lived in the US in 2023 | Pew Research Center

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