Big C said:

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okaydo said:

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Most any President could've turned the pandemic to their own political advantage (not in the fall campaign, but by their actions leading up to said). Trump let it seal his fate. Good riddance.

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See: George W. Bush and 9/11 and Andrew Cuomo and the pandemic.

Biden plans immediate flurry of executive orders to reverse Trump policies

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden
-first-executive-orders-measures/2020/11/07/9fb9c1d0-210b-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html

I'm gonna miss the Trump era.

okaydo said:

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Let me guess: Full pardon for all tRump Crime Family members, and he gets to keep all government owned Andrew Jackson art pieces as well as his spoils from stock market manipulation, secret brokerage fees for arms sales to House of Saud and gets to keep ownership interest in COVID pharmaceuticals and vaccine.

Imagine how well the country would be doing without the DNC rigging the 2016 primary and pushing Biden to 2020.


Everyone who pushed for Hilary to be the only real D running should be put in stocks. In the 20th and 21st century, it was the smallest pool in a primary, including the party that had an incumbent.

And no one cares.

Biden was a ******* lock in 2016. This election just makes it all the more obvious and irritating. If the parties didn't have absolute control we should abolish private party organization.

LunchTime said:

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Imagine how well the country would be doing without the DNC rigging the 2016 primary and pushing Biden to 2020.


Everyone who pushed for Hilary to be the only real D running should be put in stocks. In the 20th and 21st century, it was the smallest pool in a primary, including the party that had an incumbent.

And no one cares.

Biden was a ******* lock in 2016. This election just makes it all the more obvious and irritating. If the parties didn't have absolute control we should abolish private party organization.

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Was he pushed aside or did he decide not to run due to personal reasons (Beau's death)?

okaydo said:

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.html

Biden's spoils: A hot American mess


"Never before has a president-elect inherited a complex set of urgent and epic emergencies like the ones confronting Joe Biden and America.

Why it matters: FDR, no doubt, inherited a hot American, Depression-era mess in 1932. President-elect Biden's spoils, in some respects, are similarly rotten: a spreading pandemic, sky-high long-term unemployment, stratospheric federal debt, an outgoing president claiming the Democrat stole the election, a nation bitterly divided, and misinformation and lies spreading at scale on platforms available to every citizen for free.

Any one of these crises would take a presidential term to tame. Six, at once, seem almost incomprehensible in their scale and complexity.

Biden plans to focus first on the coronavirus and the economic devastation it continues to wreak. Getting the nation to feel secure about its physical and economic health will determine whether Biden is a success or failure.
But the messes are many, Jim VandeHei writes:

An average of 100,000+ people are getting the virus daily a number expected to keep rising through the holidays. Biden has zero authority to attack it until late January. He'll get a head start Monday by appointing his own COVID task force. In his victory speech last night, he promised a plan "built on a bedrock of science ... to turn this pandemic around."

Real unemployment is much worse than the headline figures, and shows the true depth of the recession Biden will inherit. Modeling we unveiled on "Axios on HBO" shows that if you define an unemployed person as someone "looking for a full-time job that pays a living wage who can't find one," the effective unemployment rate in the U.S. is 26.1%.

The federal deficit topped $3 trillion in the year that ended Sept. 30, and will haunt Washington next year, despite the bipartisan decision to ignore it. By some measures, it's the biggest budget gap since 1945 a reminder that the U.S. is confronting crises on a scale it has encountered only a couple of times in 230 years.

Trump will torment Biden from outside the White House, and could dominate Republican politics and media for years to come. Trump retains a psychic hold on a huge swath of America, making quick healing look out of reach.

Social media, which has connected the world and enabled so much creativity and so many new businesses, creates a distortion field that amplifies the worst in us, and is an accelerant for lies and nonsense. This makes the White House's bully pulpit, once the most formidable communications platform in the world, just one more voice in the feed.

The bottom line: Biden confidants say he knows this weekend's halo is an aberration. His reality is a rising left in the Democratic Party that will constantly pressure him, a Republican majority in the Senate that will constantly constrain him, and a reality of a rattled world that will constantly haunt him." Axios

For those who missed it:

B.A. Bearacus said:

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hanky1 said:

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I will fly to wherever you are and lick your taint.

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Many takeaways from this, but I'm struck by how comfortable hanky1 is with flying these days.

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There is a saying, "We all know what know what taint is, don't we?" The funny thing is, I don't, and taint that a shame?