Trump is running for president again

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Fiona Hill, the senior Russia expert on the National Security Council, who was sitting one row in front of me, later told me that she considered doing something, anything including faking a heart attack to disrupt the proceedings and get Trump to stop talking.

This is really funny. I wonder if she considered faking a heart attack when Obama wore a tan suit.


No, she didn't, but Rush Limbaugh had a real one.
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82gradDLSdad said:

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In this system you vote for someone or against someone. We've had six years of disastrous government so it's going to be against but Biden doesn't inspire the dislike Trump does which means the Dems will continue to spin their "our democracy is at stake from fascists " fantasies because they have nothing else. They need Trump badly.
Unless Biden can turn around the economy by the middle of 2024, I generally agree. There are two other rays of hope for democrats though. First, I think Trump is almost guaranteed to run. But, if for some reason he doesn't, he is likely to be the GOP's worst enemy by trashing their nominee. He's not going to go out and stump for DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whomever. Anyone who thinks he will selflessly step aside for the "good" of our nation, the GOP or any other reason is incredibly naive.

The GOP is pretty much pinning its hopes on Trump being successful at subverting state by state election systems.
I think of it like this. If you want to destroy this Republic and Democracy then you will vote for the Criminal in Chief who is still trying to overturn the 2020 election. If you want to keep this Republic and Democracy intact you will vote for somebody who loves this country more than themselves. I may not want to see a Republican in the White House in 2024 but, as long as it is a Republican who understands the value of our system of government I can tolerate it until the next election.


Which politician loves the country more than themself? I'll settle for anyone close to normal. Give me two of them to vote for and then I'll start looking into their 'details'.
I mean, I could argue that Bush 1 and 2 loved the country more than themselves. They seemed the least narcissistic presidents in the last few decades but they weren't particularly good at their jobs. Biden I just can't get a good read on but it's entirely possible he loves the country more than himself.

In the current GOP world, I'm not sure I can imagine a person who puts country before self being elected. They just aren't very good at generating those sorts of people right now.

I think I would settle for a decent BS-er who can at least play the game to make enough people believe they care about the country. Bill Clinton, Obama and Reagan all had that going for them.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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When Dems run out of ideas, they fly Nazi flags.
I don't think those people waving Nazi flags are Democrats. Just a hunch.


They're Ukrainians.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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Trump calls for homeless to be put in camps at first speech back in DC



https://mol.im/a/11051015
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If Trump were coaching women's basketball, he would ask Lebron James if he wants to be a woman.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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bearister said:

Trump calls for homeless to be put in camps at first speech back in DC



https://mol.im/a/11051015


If he could change from being a narcissistic idiot I'd vote for him.
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82gradDLSdad said:

BearNIt said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

In this system you vote for someone or against someone. We've had six years of disastrous government so it's going to be against but Biden doesn't inspire the dislike Trump does which means the Dems will continue to spin their "our democracy is at stake from fascists " fantasies because they have nothing else. They need Trump badly.
Unless Biden can turn around the economy by the middle of 2024, I generally agree. There are two other rays of hope for democrats though. First, I think Trump is almost guaranteed to run. But, if for some reason he doesn't, he is likely to be the GOP's worst enemy by trashing their nominee. He's not going to go out and stump for DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whomever. Anyone who thinks he will selflessly step aside for the "good" of our nation, the GOP or any other reason is incredibly naive.

The GOP is pretty much pinning its hopes on Trump being successful at subverting state by state election systems.
I think of it like this. If you want to destroy this Republic and Democracy then you will vote for the Criminal in Chief who is still trying to overturn the 2020 election. If you want to keep this Republic and Democracy intact you will vote for somebody who loves this country more than themselves. I may not want to see a Republican in the White House in 2024 but, as long as it is a Republican who understands the value of our system of government I can tolerate it until the next election.


Which politician loves the country more than themself? I'll settle for anyone close to normal. Give me two of them to vote for and then I'll start looking into their 'details'.

Liz Cheney.

Her leading the Jan. 6th Committee isnt doing her any good in her state of Wyoming.
She's down by 22 percentage points to Harriet Hageman according to the first independent, in-state poll.
Wyoming loves Trump and Cheney's fixation on getting Trump is very unpopular.

Is Liz Cheney finished? (yahoo.com)


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DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearNIt said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

In this system you vote for someone or against someone. We've had six years of disastrous government so it's going to be against but Biden doesn't inspire the dislike Trump does which means the Dems will continue to spin their "our democracy is at stake from fascists " fantasies because they have nothing else. They need Trump badly.
Unless Biden can turn around the economy by the middle of 2024, I generally agree. There are two other rays of hope for democrats though. First, I think Trump is almost guaranteed to run. But, if for some reason he doesn't, he is likely to be the GOP's worst enemy by trashing their nominee. He's not going to go out and stump for DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whomever. Anyone who thinks he will selflessly step aside for the "good" of our nation, the GOP or any other reason is incredibly naive.

The GOP is pretty much pinning its hopes on Trump being successful at subverting state by state election systems.
I think of it like this. If you want to destroy this Republic and Democracy then you will vote for the Criminal in Chief who is still trying to overturn the 2020 election. If you want to keep this Republic and Democracy intact you will vote for somebody who loves this country more than themselves. I may not want to see a Republican in the White House in 2024 but, as long as it is a Republican who understands the value of our system of government I can tolerate it until the next election.


Which politician loves the country more than themself? I'll settle for anyone close to normal. Give me two of them to vote for and then I'll start looking into their 'details'.

Liz Cheney.

Her leading the Jan. 6th Committee isnt doing her any good in her state of Wyoming.
She's down by 22 percentage points to Harriet Hageman according to the first independent, in-state poll.
Wyoming loves Trump and Cheney's fixation on getting Trump is very unpopular.

Is Liz Cheney finished? (yahoo.com)





If she runs for president I'll look into her. The little bit I've seen I've liked. I almost automatically like any republican that shuns Trump.
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Rupert Murdock controls the Republican Party.

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LOL Trump is threatening another pretend lawsuit that he won't be able to follow through with. He's claiming that he will sue CNN for defamation because they continue to call him a liar because of all the lies he tells.

As you all know, truth is a defense to defamation and in order to prove he actually believes all of the stupid things he says he would have to submit to discovery and testify under oath. Since he obviously isn't going to do that, this lawsuit won't go anywhere. On the bright side, he will milk this as another opportunity to grift his clueless followers who are the only people dumb enough to believe his lies.

The best part is that even the dumb letter from Trump is trying to re-characterize his obvious false claims as "genuine beliefs" because they know the facts aren't on their side.

I hope this goes all the way to trial and CNN files a counterclaim, Johnny Depp style.
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Former President Trump on Wednesday said he planned to file a lawsuit against CNN, alleging the network has repeatedly defamed him dating back to his 2016 campaign for the presidency.

"I have notified CNN of my intent to file a lawsuit over their repeated defamatory statements against me," Trump said in a statement. "I will also be commencing actions against other media outlets who have defamed me and defrauded the public regarding the overwhelming evidence of fraud throughout the 2020 Election. I will never stop fighting for the truth and for the future of our Country!"

The 282-page letter from Trump's attorneys to CNN executives, dated July 21, calls for the network to retract or correct numerous on-air statements and published articles about Trump that the lawyers allege are false and defamatory.

The letter goes on to cite dozens of examples, many of which relate to the network's coverage of Trump's repeated claims that the 2020 presidential election was fraudulent. CNN coverage frequently referred to those claims as "lies," "false narratives" and "baseless theories," among other terms.

The lawsuit alleges those descriptions are "false and defamatory," in part because Trump genuinely believes his claims that the election was stolen.

"Without regard for President Trump's genuine belief in his statements, CNN has published numerous articles characterizing him as a 'liar' and the purveyor of the 'Big Lie,'" the letter to CNN states.

But perhaps in a preview of how Trump's lawsuit is likely to be received, dozens of lawsuits filed after the 2020 alleging there was widespread fraud that tipped the scales in favor of Joe Biden were summarily dismissed because of a lack of evidence, in some cases by judges appointed by Trump.

Trump has spent the 18 months since leaving office continuing to claim the 2020 election was stolen or rigged against him, including as recently as Tuesday during a speech in Washington, D.C. Multiple audits and recounts have validated Biden's victory, and many former Trump administration officials have said there was not enough fraud to change the outcome.

Trump has a habit of threatening to sue those who speak critically of him, though he has rarely followed through in recent years.

He previously threatened to sue the women accusing him of sexual misconduct ahead of the 2016 election; he threatened to sue The New York Times over critical coverage; and he suggested he may sue Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) over comments before he was first impeached.



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82gradDLSdad said:

DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearNIt said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

In this system you vote for someone or against someone. We've had six years of disastrous government so it's going to be against but Biden doesn't inspire the dislike Trump does which means the Dems will continue to spin their "our democracy is at stake from fascists " fantasies because they have nothing else. They need Trump badly.
Unless Biden can turn around the economy by the middle of 2024, I generally agree. There are two other rays of hope for democrats though. First, I think Trump is almost guaranteed to run. But, if for some reason he doesn't, he is likely to be the GOP's worst enemy by trashing their nominee. He's not going to go out and stump for DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whomever. Anyone who thinks he will selflessly step aside for the "good" of our nation, the GOP or any other reason is incredibly naive.

The GOP is pretty much pinning its hopes on Trump being successful at subverting state by state election systems.
I think of it like this. If you want to destroy this Republic and Democracy then you will vote for the Criminal in Chief who is still trying to overturn the 2020 election. If you want to keep this Republic and Democracy intact you will vote for somebody who loves this country more than themselves. I may not want to see a Republican in the White House in 2024 but, as long as it is a Republican who understands the value of our system of government I can tolerate it until the next election.


Which politician loves the country more than themself? I'll settle for anyone close to normal. Give me two of them to vote for and then I'll start looking into their 'details'.

Liz Cheney.

Her leading the Jan. 6th Committee isnt doing her any good in her state of Wyoming.
She's down by 22 percentage points to Harriet Hageman according to the first independent, in-state poll.
Wyoming loves Trump and Cheney's fixation on getting Trump is very unpopular.

Is Liz Cheney finished? (yahoo.com)





If she runs for president I'll look into her. The little bit I've seen I've liked. I almost automatically like any republican that shuns Trump.
Well for a lifetime Repub I can really say I like what I see in common sense and support of those he represents in Joe Manchin. For a pol he seems to be doing the right thing for his state, for his survival and probably for the reason he was elected in the first place. But also seen is a peek or two at common sense, and pragmatism.
As Jeffrey Gundlach said today any spending of monies right now by the govt. is but fuel for further and worsening inflation.
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OdontoBear66 said:

82gradDLSdad said:

DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearNIt said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

In this system you vote for someone or against someone. We've had six years of disastrous government so it's going to be against but Biden doesn't inspire the dislike Trump does which means the Dems will continue to spin their "our democracy is at stake from fascists " fantasies because they have nothing else. They need Trump badly.
Unless Biden can turn around the economy by the middle of 2024, I generally agree. There are two other rays of hope for democrats though. First, I think Trump is almost guaranteed to run. But, if for some reason he doesn't, he is likely to be the GOP's worst enemy by trashing their nominee. He's not going to go out and stump for DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whomever. Anyone who thinks he will selflessly step aside for the "good" of our nation, the GOP or any other reason is incredibly naive.

The GOP is pretty much pinning its hopes on Trump being successful at subverting state by state election systems.
I think of it like this. If you want to destroy this Republic and Democracy then you will vote for the Criminal in Chief who is still trying to overturn the 2020 election. If you want to keep this Republic and Democracy intact you will vote for somebody who loves this country more than themselves. I may not want to see a Republican in the White House in 2024 but, as long as it is a Republican who understands the value of our system of government I can tolerate it until the next election.


Which politician loves the country more than themself? I'll settle for anyone close to normal. Give me two of them to vote for and then I'll start looking into their 'details'.

Liz Cheney.

Her leading the Jan. 6th Committee isnt doing her any good in her state of Wyoming.
She's down by 22 percentage points to Harriet Hageman according to the first independent, in-state poll.
Wyoming loves Trump and Cheney's fixation on getting Trump is very unpopular.

Is Liz Cheney finished? (yahoo.com)





If she runs for president I'll look into her. The little bit I've seen I've liked. I almost automatically like any republican that shuns Trump.
Well for a lifetime Repub I can really say I like what I see in common sense and support of those he represents in Joe Manchin. For a pol he seems to be doing the right thing for his state, for his survival and probably for the reason he was elected in the first place. But also seen is a peek or two at common sense, and pragmatism.
As Jeffrey Gundlach said today any spending of monies right now by the govt. is but fuel for further and worsening inflation.
Credit where credit is due. I don't know if he's helping the people of W. Va. but he's a professional politician who has more power per capita than any other senator not named Moscow Mitch.

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Unit2Sucks said:

OdontoBear66 said:

82gradDLSdad said:

DiabloWags said:

82gradDLSdad said:

BearNIt said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

In this system you vote for someone or against someone. We've had six years of disastrous government so it's going to be against but Biden doesn't inspire the dislike Trump does which means the Dems will continue to spin their "our democracy is at stake from fascists " fantasies because they have nothing else. They need Trump badly.
Unless Biden can turn around the economy by the middle of 2024, I generally agree. There are two other rays of hope for democrats though. First, I think Trump is almost guaranteed to run. But, if for some reason he doesn't, he is likely to be the GOP's worst enemy by trashing their nominee. He's not going to go out and stump for DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whomever. Anyone who thinks he will selflessly step aside for the "good" of our nation, the GOP or any other reason is incredibly naive.

The GOP is pretty much pinning its hopes on Trump being successful at subverting state by state election systems.
I think of it like this. If you want to destroy this Republic and Democracy then you will vote for the Criminal in Chief who is still trying to overturn the 2020 election. If you want to keep this Republic and Democracy intact you will vote for somebody who loves this country more than themselves. I may not want to see a Republican in the White House in 2024 but, as long as it is a Republican who understands the value of our system of government I can tolerate it until the next election.


Which politician loves the country more than themself? I'll settle for anyone close to normal. Give me two of them to vote for and then I'll start looking into their 'details'.

Liz Cheney.

Her leading the Jan. 6th Committee isnt doing her any good in her state of Wyoming.
She's down by 22 percentage points to Harriet Hageman according to the first independent, in-state poll.
Wyoming loves Trump and Cheney's fixation on getting Trump is very unpopular.

Is Liz Cheney finished? (yahoo.com)





If she runs for president I'll look into her. The little bit I've seen I've liked. I almost automatically like any republican that shuns Trump.
Well for a lifetime Repub I can really say I like what I see in common sense and support of those he represents in Joe Manchin. For a pol he seems to be doing the right thing for his state, for his survival and probably for the reason he was elected in the first place. But also seen is a peek or two at common sense, and pragmatism.
As Jeffrey Gundlach said today any spending of monies right now by the govt. is but fuel for further and worsening inflation.
Credit where credit is due. I don't know if he's helping the people of W. Va. but he's a professional politician who has more power per capita than any other senator not named Moscow Mitch.



I'm not sure if it's in the best interests of West Virginians to keep their coal jobs, but it's in the best interests of the Manchin family.
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Kinda looks like Manchin just rope-a-doped everyone.
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sycasey said:

Kinda looks like Manchin just rope-a-doped everyone.


Looks more like Manchin teamed with Schumer to rope-a-dope the Republicans. Nice bill for the Democrats. Too small but still a nice bill. We'll see if it can clear the numerous remaining hurdles.
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Makes me a bit sorry I said good things about the man. Still my assessment is he is pretty pragmatic. Of course his efficiency in the Senate would go way down were he not re-elected, so looking out for himself can also benefit others.
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OdontoBear66 said:

Makes me a bit sorry I said good things about the man. Still my assessment is he is pretty pragmatic. Of course his efficiency in the Senate would go way down were he not re-elected, so looking out for himself can also benefit others.


What is on the bill that you oppose?

Reducing the deficit?
Reducing the carried interest loophole?
Minimum corporate tax rate for the big business?
Reduced carbon emissions?
Medicare negotiating drug prices?
A more efficient IRS?
Electric vehicle tax credits?
Obamacare subsidies?

This is good legislation, just way too small.

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Former President Donald Trump and Caitlyn Jenner at Wednesday's LIV welcome party. Photo: Chris Trotman/LIV Golf via Getty Images

*Probably not the best photo op for a guy whose base is homo/trans phobic…especially when your wittle Ken doll paw makes Caitlyn's hand look like a catcher's mitt. tRump also must be missing the services of the White House beauty parlor because his coiffure appears to be a few floors short.
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bearister said:


Former President Donald Trump and Caitlyn Jenner at Wednesday's LIV welcome party. Photo: Chris Trotman/LIV Golf via Getty Images

*Probably not the best photo op for a guy whose base is homo/trans phobic…especially when your wittle Ken doll paw makes Caitlyn's hand look like a catcher's mitt. tRump also must be missing the services of the White House beauty parlor because his coiffure appears to be a few floors short.
Didn't The Donald deck Eric Trump for not wearing a tie?
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" I was hanging out in a freshman dorm with some friends, next door to Donald Jr.'s room. I walked out of the room to find Donald Trump at his son's door, there to pick him up for a baseball game. There were quite a few students standing around watching, trying to catch a glimpse of the famed real estate magnate. Don Jr. opened the door, wearing a Yankee jersey. Without saying a word, his father slapped him across the face, knocking him to the floor in front of all of his classmates. He simply said "put on a suit and meet me outside," and closed the door."

https://amp.www.complex.com/life/2016/11/donald-trump-jr-college-classmate-claims-trump-knocked-son-ground-in-front-friends-once
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Didn't The Donald deck Eric Trump for not wearing a tie?
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/rnc-warning-trump-run-president-184500036.html

RNC says it must stay neutral in any GOP primary field. Thus, tells Donald that if he declares they must stop paying his legal bills.
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bearister said:


Former President Donald Trump and Caitlyn Jenner at Wednesday's LIV welcome party. Photo: Chris Trotman/LIV Golf via Getty Images

*Probably not the best photo op for a guy whose base is homo/trans phobic…especially when your wittle Ken doll paw makes Caitlyn's hand look like a catcher's mitt. tRump also must be missing the services of the White House beauty parlor because his coiffure appears to be a few floors short.

How can it be the Donald looks taller than Bruce? I would think a decathlon champion would be taller.
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Jenner is either rising from a chair or couch or is standing and stooped forward (supposed to be 6'2).
In his heels and shoe lift inserts tRump is no taller than 6'1 President Obama.*

*It is hysterical that Schwarzenegger got several bodybuilding associations as well as Hollywood to lie him up to 6'2. My sister and daughter have stood next to him and they say he is barely 5'10.

My daughter surreptitiously snapped this photo of Arnold at USC in 2013 (no scale to gauge height):


….and my niece snuck this photo of Caitlyn Jenner (on right) somewhere in L.A. in 2015:

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Gee, how long has Jenner been Caitlyn? That long?
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In 90, I worked with someone whose sister had previously/recently worked on a film crew in Mexico where Arnold was the star.
Said his trailer was a revolving door of female visitors.

It was therefore no surprise when news broke that he had had a child with the Mexican maid.

Some people… man, I just don't roll like that, don't understand it.

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bearister said:


*Probably not the best photo op for a guy whose base is homo/trans phobic…especially when your wittle Ken doll paw makes Caitlyn's hand look like a catcher's mitt. tRump also must be missing the services of the White House beauty parlor because his coiffure appears to be a few floors short.

Photos of Trump at the LIV golf tournament make him look like a wax figure at Madam Tussauds in London.
And yes, Bruce's mits are massive.



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DiabloWags said:

bearister said:


*Probably not the best photo op for a guy whose base is homo/trans phobic…especially when your wittle Ken doll paw makes Caitlyn's hand look like a catcher's mitt. tRump also must be missing the services of the White House beauty parlor because his coiffure appears to be a few floors short.

Photos of Trump at the LIV golf tournament make him look like a wax figure at Madam Tussauds in London.
And yes, Bruce's mits are massive.






Looks like he's doing everything but exercise and eating well to try to look younger.
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concordtom said:


How can it be the Donald looks taller than Bruce? I would think a decathlon champion would be taller.
He's not.
He's at least 6-02 and more like 6-02.50

I hung out with Bruce in the lobby of the Valley River Inn late one night at the 2012 Olympic Trials in Eugene.

My buddy was a pole vault coach and we did a road trip up to Eugene to support former Cal pole vaulter Allison Stokke. My buddy's Dad had coached Bruce in the pole vault at SJSU. Bruce was the most affable, humble, gracious, guy. He was telling stories about what it was like to room with Steve Prefontaine and 400m runner Wayne Collett (Silver) in Munich in '72. He wasnt even talking about himself. He was talking about Pre the whole time.

The photo below shows him with former WR holder and Olympic Medalist in the Decathlon, Ashton Eaton from the 2012 Olympic Trials. Eaton was a 5-time NCAA Champion for Oregon and the second decathlete to break the 9,000 point barrier. He won Gold in London 2012.

Eaton is 6-01.



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Since it's a Friday, I will post the gratuitous Stokke photo from the 2012 Olympic Trials


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She's so beautiful she even derailed Ricky Fowler's career. He'll have to sign some mega-million dollar contract with the LIV tour.
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82gradDLSdad said:

She's so beautiful she even derailed Ricky Fowler's career. He'll have to sign some mega-million dollar contract with the LIV tour.
She has a Master's from Cal..
Rickie became a Dad last November.
Life for him these days is full of "distractions" . . . but most enjoyable ones.

I'm rooting for him to make a big comeback!

D'Angelo: Rickie Fowler's game remains work in progress, but new daughter adds perspective (yahoo.com)

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concordtom said:

Gee, how long has Jenner been Caitlyn? That long?


In April 2015, Jenner sat down with the ABC journalist Diane Sawyer and shared that she was a trans woman: "Yes, for all intents and purposes I am a woman."
 
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