Trump is running for president again

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In reply to DiabloWags • 12:29p, 10/5/24
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Never mind that the U.S. is currently producing a record 13.2 million barrels of crude oil per day.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day) (eia.gov)


Keystone XL scuttled.

Due to serious environmental concerns in Nebraska given the water supply.
Or do you just not care about Nebraska residents having access to clean water?

Are you aware that Canadian tar sand crude oil is unique compared to traditional crude oils... and highly corrosive (acidic) and has been documented to cause pipeline leaks at a 3x the rate of traditional crude?

If you don't believe me, you might want to read up on the BILLION DOLLAR PLUS Kalamazoo, Michigan oil disaster in 2010 by Enbridge Energy.

Only Keystone XL was scuttled.

There still remains 3 other Keystone Pipelines that have been transporting tar sands crude oil from Canada into the U.S. for the past 10 - 11 years.

Were you not aware of this?

And for what it's worth, even if Keystone XL had been built, there was no guarantee that an additional 830,000 of crude oil being transported into the United States would have remained here. It could very well wind up being EXPORTED by the oil companies.


What an Underground Keystone XL Spill Would Mean for Nebraska Groundwater | Nebraska Public Media

The Keystone XL Pipeline: Everything You Need To Know (nrdc.org)


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Notice how the typical Trumper on OT instantly disappears . . . once they are confronted with FACTS.

Happens every time.

First I don't think I qualify as a "typical Trumper", since I won't be voting for him. Second, if I don't respond it's most likely because I am busy or not bothered.

Third, your arguments about pollution or safety doesn't hold water (no pun intended). If the tar sand oil is more corrosive, wouldn't it make more sense to build newer pipelines that will definitely be less potentially leaky than the older existing ones, which already have been running through Nebraska for decades?

There might be some highly influential special interests here at play, perhaps railroad transport concerns like Berkshire that have been making a lot of money shipping Alberta oil to southern refineries...
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6:32p, 10/5/24
Musk goes Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs



It's like dancing on stage with The Boss.


If you trust Elon Musk, I think I understand why tRump is your guy. The only good news about this pairing is that when tRump f@ucks over Musk, and tRump f@ucks over everyone eventually, Musk will unleash the Dogs of Hell on tRump, whether he is president or not.
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7:29p, 10/5/24
MAGA is weird
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In reply to bearister • 8:33p, 10/5/24
Maybe Musk burned one beforehand, or was excited at the thought of:

- no new wars
- Russia-Ukraine war ended
- millions more not killed
- no nuclear war
- low inflation
- secure border
- a leader who can have intelligent conversations
- RFK Jr - Make America Healthy Again
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12:38a, 10/6/24
Maybe Musk is just:

- a creepy autocrat (whose money was made possible by socialism. Once Elon made his billions, he decided that supporting a far-right criminal is the path to advancing society.)
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In reply to bearister • 3:10a, 10/6/24
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Musk goes Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs

I don't trust a man without a belly button.
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9:53a, 10/6/24
Trump's Rambling Speeches Reinforce Question of Age - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/us/politics/trump-speeches-age-cognitive-decline.html

"With the passage of time, the 78-year-old former president's speeches have grown darker, harsher, longer, angrier, less focused, more profane and increasingly fixated on the past, according to a review of his public appearances over the years.

…..According to a computer analysis by The New York Times, Mr. Trump's rally speeches now last an average of 82 minutes, compared with 45 minutes in 2016. "
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10:08a, 10/6/24
Trump pitches watches, crypto and his wife's book in the campaign's final weeks


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-pitches-watches-crypto-wife-book-campaign-final-weeks-rcna173718

"A new cryptocurrency platform. An upcoming memoir authored by his wife. A set of NFT trading cards. Watches that cost as much as $100,000.

With just weeks left before the November election, former President Donald Trump has taken to promoting items and businesses that are not at all connected to his presidential campaign.

….. I'm not too much worried about that," Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla., said. "Donald Trump is a businessman first, second and third.

….. Long before he entered politics, Trump had promoted similar product lines, whether Trump Steaks or Trump Vodka. Trump ended up paying out a $25 million settlement to students of Trump University the former president's real estate education venture who said they were duped."
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In reply to bearister • 10:09a, 10/6/24
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who doesn't love a weird MAGAt freak and his belly shot? 003, lover and Minot have been on their couches studying these memes all morning
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4:21p, 10/6/24
Trump maintains his true class, makes joke after woman grieves her husband's death.



Trump used a reference to the widow of Corey Comperatore a supporter killed during the July assassination attempt on the GOP presidential candidate in Butler, Pennsylvania for a joke at a private fundraiser, according to a Friday report from the Guardian.

In a recording from the Aug. 10 dinner event in Aspen, Colorado, the former president purportedly said: "So they're going to get millions of dollars but the woman, the wife, this beautiful woman, I handed her the cheque we handed her the cheque and she said, 'This is so nice, and I appreciate it, but I'd much rather have my husband.' Now, I know some of the women in this room wouldn't say the same."

He reportedly added: "I know at least four couples. ... At least four couples here would have been thrilled, actually."

So, who are the four couples where the woman would be happy with the money in her hands and her man in the grave?

1) Donald and Melania
2) Donald Jr and Kimberly Guilfoyle
3)
4)
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In reply to concordtom • 4:25p, 10/6/24
….and yet that window was at his rally at the Assassination Attempt Miracle Shrine. MAGAs are weirdos and are not real quick on the uptake that they have been had.

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In reply to bearister • 6:31p, 10/6/24
Assassination Attempt Miracle Shrine?

You mean, after the shooting, he sold a bunch of assassination shirts and hats and hot plate holders, then took that money and used it to buy the property upon which he was shot, and is going to turn it into an eternal Trump-Almost-Killed-Here tourist trap, aka "Shrine", from which he and his heirs will collect annual income royalties.

You know he's thinking of Elvis and Graceland. If he could write a Bible, he'd do that, too.
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In reply to bearister • 6:34p, 10/6/24
Ha, you added the photo.
We are on the same wavelength.

Maybe he should write a Bible.
They'd buy it.

(I mean, a new book in The Bible, say, after book of revelation.
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7:05p, 10/6/24
Do the Math: Trump Is Toast - Michael Moore


https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/do-the-math-trump-is-toast
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In reply to SBGold • 11:15a, 10/7/24
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who doesn't love a weird MAGAt freak and his belly shot? 003, lover and Minot have been on their couches studying these memes all morning


Musk is not the largest contractor to the US Military. He has, however, founded a company that is better at putting people and objects in space than NASA, so the government uses them. He is a fricking genius, which confuses and scares the idiot libs here.
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In reply to bearister • 11:40a, 10/7/24
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Do the Math: Trump Is Toast - Michael Moore
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/do-the-math-trump-is-toast
thanks for the link (here). and yet i'm not re-assured..
> An aggregate of top polls as of today shows that Harris will defeat Trump in the Electoral College count by 270 to 268.
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In reply to oski003 • 11:48a, 10/7/24
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SBGold said:
bearister said:




who doesn't love a weird MAGAt freak and his belly shot? 003, lover and Minot have been on their couches studying these memes all morning


Musk is not the largest contractor to the US Military. He has, however, founded a company that is better at putting people and objects in space than NASA, so the government uses them. He is a fricking genius, which confuses and scares the idiot libs here.
I ain't scared. F Musk
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In reply to concordtom • 11:48a, 10/7/24
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Trump maintains his true class, makes joke after woman grieves her husband's death.



Trump used a reference to the widow of Corey Comperatore a supporter killed during the July assassination attempt on the GOP presidential candidate in Butler, Pennsylvania for a joke at a private fundraiser, according to a Friday report from the Guardian.

In a recording from the Aug. 10 dinner event in Aspen, Colorado, the former president purportedly said: "So they're going to get millions of dollars but the woman, the wife, this beautiful woman, I handed her the cheque we handed her the cheque and she said, 'This is so nice, and I appreciate it, but I'd much rather have my husband.' Now, I know some of the women in this room wouldn't say the same."

He reportedly added: "I know at least four couples. ... At least four couples here would have been thrilled, actually."

So, who are the four couples where the woman would be happy with the money in her hands and her man in the grave?

1) Donald and Melania
2) Donald Jr and Kimberly Guilfoyle
3)
4)
probably add my wife to the list
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In reply to bearister • 12:04p, 10/7/24
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Do the Math: Trump Is Toast - Michael Moore

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/do-the-math-trump-is-toast


You mean the Progressive polls that gave dummy narcissist Hillary a 99% chance of winning?

An aggregate of Democrat-heavy, biased influence polls, shows the hiding Harris squeaks out a victory? Sure.

Continuing a prior trend, Trump is performing better w Latinos, African Americans, and Independents. One poll claims he's within 4 points of Harris in New Mexico.

But Democrats have had eight years to perfect The Steal. Now they're registering illegals to vote after funding their transport and life here.
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In reply to movielover • 12:07p, 10/7/24
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bearister said:
Do the Math: Trump Is Toast - Michael Moore

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/do-the-math-trump-is-toast


You mean the Progressive polls that gave dummy narcissist Hillary a 99% chance of winning?

An aggregate of Democrat-heavy, biased influence polls, shows the hiding Harris squeaks out a victory? Sure.

Continuing a prior trend, Trump is performing better w Latinos, African Americans, and Independents. One poll claims he's within 4 points of Harris in New Mexico.

But Democrats have had eight years to perfect The Steal. Now they're registering illegals to vote after funding their transport and life here.
Stop with the Steal crap. Repugs are trying to block and take voting privileges from Democratic areas, You continue to be full of crap.

Did you wish that Jan. 6th mob hung Pence? Did he help with the steal? Say it
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In reply to SBGold • 12:20p, 10/7/24
Professional bettors are tilted 51-49 Trump.

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In reply to movielover • 12:51p, 10/7/24
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Professional bettors are tilted 51-49 Trump.

answer about the Jan 6th action. You wanted Pence hung, right? Like seriously killed in the Capitol building? Show some honesty
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In reply to SBGold • 1:28p, 10/7/24
He should be unemployed in GOP politics, and have his security clearance permanently revoked. Then, just go away.
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In reply to movielover • 1:31p, 10/7/24
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He should be unemployed in GOP politics, and have his security clearance permanently revoked. Then, just go away.


I agree with you but I think Donold should also go to prison
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In reply to dajo9 • 1:57p, 10/7/24
Actually, the Biden family are massive grifters.

What loving Father sends their drug-and-sex-addicted son around the world to the most corrupt regimes - to act as his Bagman?

What loving Brother shags his widowed sister in law, while concurrently banging hookers and inhaling various drugs?

What publicly creepy Father actually showers with a far-too-old daughter?

Well, I guess narcissist Hillary Clinton now has more autobiographies than Wilt Chamberlain.
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2:02p, 10/7/24
Trump Baselessly Claims 'Murderer' Migrants Have 'Bad Genes'


https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-says-there-are-migrants-in-the-u-s-with-bad-genes-in-chilling-rant/

*I'm pretty sure tRump (or his go to guy, self loathing Stephen Miller) got the "bad genes" schtick from the eugenics discussion in their copy of Mein Kampf for Dummies they regularly mine for talking points.
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In reply to bearister • 2:26p, 10/7/24
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Trump Baselessly Claims 'Murderer' Migrants Have 'Bad Genes'


https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-says-there-are-migrants-in-the-u-s-with-bad-genes-in-chilling-rant/

*I'm pretty sure tRump (or his go to guy, self loathing Stephen Miller) got the "bad genes" schtick from the eugenics discussion ifrom their copy of Mein Kampf for Dummies they regularly mine for talking points.
Yes, and it's incredibly evil and disgusting. Trump loves to skirt the Hitler line, someone just needs to call it out for what it is and cancel this scumbag
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In reply to oski003 • 2:32p, 10/7/24
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Musk…….. He is a fricking genius, which confuses and scares the idiot libs here.


1. Yes, Musk is a fricking genius.

2. Do you think it is only Libs that question some of Musk's conduct?

3. How many Libs do you think post in this forum. tRumpists classify everyone that doesn't buy tRump's bullsh@it as a Lefty or a commie (Yogi says my comments make me come off like a Republican).

4. Musk is a hero to tRumpists and Yogi/Matt Taibbi* guys who are former Bernie Bros who are now in an unholy alliance with tRumpists for the sole purpose of destroying the influence of Moderate Democrats once and for all. They consider tRumpists useful idiots helping them achieve their goal.

5. Musk, like tRump, is not an altruistic guy.**Musk is all about Musk. He wants to do what he wants to do. He is not a Working Class hero. The extensive violation of labor law and employment discrimination claims filed against him and his companies are factually supported.

6. tRump betrays everyone in his orbit sooner or later, and he will betray Musk. tRump better tread lightly because when he f@ucks over Musk, Musk will unleash the Dogs of Hell on him. I'm pretty sure that there is room for only one MAGA King and Musk believes that guy is him, not toy brains.

* Twitter Files' Matt Taibbi Says Elon Musk Sent Him Unhinged Messages | The New Republic


https://newrepublic.com/post/179067/twitter-files-matt-taibbi-messages-elon-musk



** Musk's haphazard philanthropy is under scrutiny | CNN Business


https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/12/business/musks-haphazard-philanthropy-is-under-scrutiny/index.html

"Elon Musk is notoriously skeptical of charity, preferring to focus on his for-profit ventures, which he believes will offer more transformative change for the world.

….Just last week, he attacked MacKenzie Scott, the billionaire philanthropist who divorced Jeff Bezos in 2019, for her own (significantly more generous) charitable work.

"'Super rich ex-wives who hate their former spouse' should … be listed among 'Reasons that Western Civilization died,'" Musk wrote in an X post that was later deleted."
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In reply to movielover • 2:45p, 10/7/24
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Continuing a prior trend, Trump is performing better w Latinos, African Americans, and Independents.


This is going to be the purported explanation he gives when he gets 85 to 90M "votes" in 2024 when everyone but tRumpists know that he never really got 63M votes in 2016 or 74M votes in 2020.

tRump is always provided with a projection of how many votes he needs to "find" to win an election and then he makes sure he "gets" that number and then "builds" a cushion on top of that. He and his patrons f@ucked that up in 2020, it won't happen again.
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In reply to movielover • 2:59p, 10/7/24
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He should be unemployed in GOP politics, and have his security clearance permanently revoked. Then, just go away.
Ok, but why about the security clearance withdrawal? So some MAGA loony can try to kill just like they tried to kill Trump and former State Governor David Paterson?
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In reply to movielover • 6:23p, 10/7/24
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bearister said:
Do the Math: Trump Is Toast - Michael Moore

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/do-the-math-trump-is-toast


You mean the Progressive polls that gave dummy narcissist Hillary a 99% chance of winning?

An aggregate of Democrat-heavy, biased influence polls, shows the hiding Harris squeaks out a victory? Sure.

Continuing a prior trend, Trump is performing better w Latinos, African Americans, and Independents. One poll claims he's within 4 points of Harris in New Mexico.

But Democrats have had eight years to perfect The Steal. Now they're registering illegals to vote after funding their transport and life here.

Michael Moore spent much of the fall, in 2016, warning people that Trump was going to win. He knew that Hillary Clinton wasn't playing too well in Peoria.
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In reply to bearister • 6:50p, 10/7/24
The Left MSM have been in the tank for Libs for decades. That's why they hate Musk, one reason, he breaks through their Communist censorship.
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