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PAC-10-BEAR
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dajo9
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concordtom said:

I doubt a gun.
Who is that stupid.


The DHS lied. The charges brought against Marimar Martinez do not include any gun related charges. She had a legal gun in her purse but it was never involved in the incident. We'll find out what else the DHS lied about from this incident in the trial. Once somebody has lost credibility you can't believe them. Of course for magats, the lying is part of what they like.
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dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

I doubt a gun.
Who is that stupid.


The DHS lied. The charges brought against Marimar Martinez do not include any gun related charges. She had a legal gun in her purse but it was never involved in the incident. We'll find out what else the DHS lied about from this incident in the trial. Once somebody has lost credibility you can't believe them. Of course for magats, the lying is part of what they like.

That was known and posted on 10/6. I can't believe Ruiz and Martinez continuously boxed in the DHS car on the highway for 20 minutes and broke several traffic laws and even drove in the oncoming traffic lane sometimes to do it. That must have been scary for the officers. It sounds like the officers broke under the pressure of the criminals and shot at Martinez's vehicle after the cars collided. What a crazy story. Liberals are absolutely unhinged and many ICE agents aren't the best officers.
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sycasey
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graguna
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what ICE has become in un-American and horrible.
The intentions were fine but the result is disgusting.
Not that nothing good is happening but for americans to be attacked? and why the masks? are they ashamed of what they're doing? I would be. I guess lots of Americans are desperate for money in this economy; they're willing to turn on their fellow citizens for a buck. ( or whatever bonuses trump is paying to those who join his private police force )
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dang, but shoot happens (esp to our black and brown skinned neighbors)
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[ ] <-- an empty post from 88?
# best ever, thanks Bearly, and keep'm coming
movielover
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When lawless bedlam has been fostered by tens of millions of illegal immigrants over years, including violent gangs, cartel members, and human traffickers, the corrective actions will ocassionally not be perfect.

DC is safer, Memphis is safer, and thousands of dangerous, violent felons are being pulled off the streets.
bearister
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graguna said:

what ICE has become in un-American and horrible.
The intentions were fine but the result is disgusting.
Not that nothing good is happening but for americans to be attacked? and why the masks? are they ashamed of what they're doing? I would be. I guess lots of Americans are desperate for money in this economy; they're willing to turn on their fellow citizens for a buck. ( or whatever bonuses trump is paying to those who join his private police force )



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movielover said:

When lawless bedlam has been fostered by tens of millions of illegal immigrants over years, including violent gangs, cartel members, and human traffickers, the corrective actions will ocassionally not be perfect.

This idea that immigrants are more violent than regular citizens is a fantasy you guys have concocted in your heads for years, and ICE is the result of people at the top of our government also believing this fantasy. Now innocent civilians are being caught up in it.

But congratulations on getting what you want, I guess.
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Typical. You conflate legal with illegal immigrants.

Yes, under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, 300,000 Latino children are unaccounted for - and most likely not in church, school, or with family. That your tribe would hand them over to strangers, traffickers, users, cartel members, and in some cases monsters - bc of twisted political beliefs - is disgusting.
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movielover said:

Typical. You conflate legal with illegal immigrants.

Oh no, I'm including them all in my statement. You guys seem to think they are more dangerous than regular citizens. They're not.
PAC-10-BEAR
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movielover said:

Typical. You conflate legal with illegal immigrants.

That's because he listens to NPR.
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tnx B, but so very sad; seems like our country somehow got flushed down a drain /* booo, hiss$$$sss */
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BearNIt
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Are the ICE morons really stopping African Americans and asking them for proof of citizenship? Would they do this in White areas? Before you answer I would ask, do you carry around proof of citizenship, and if stopped on the street could you provide proof of citizenship?
sycasey
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Don't believe anything they tell you.

MinotStateBeav
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I love that DHS is debunking a lot of media narratives using their platform.

concordtom
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graguna said:

what ICE has become in un-American and horrible.
The intentions were fine but the result is disgusting.
Not that nothing good is happening but for americans to be attacked? and why the masks? are they ashamed of what they're doing? I would be. I guess lots of Americans are desperate for money in this economy; they're willing to turn on their fellow citizens for a buck. ( or whatever bonuses trump is paying to those who join his private police force )


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concordtom
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dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

I doubt a gun.
Who is that stupid.


The DHS lied. The charges brought against Marimar Martinez do not include any gun related charges. She had a legal gun in her purse but it was never involved in the incident. We'll find out what else the DHS lied about from this incident in the trial. Once somebody has lost credibility you can't believe them. Of course for magats, the lying is part of what they like.


The first report gets the most press. You can correct it later but nobody hears that.

Trump is a master at it and it metastasizes.
sycasey
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MinotStateBeav said:

I love that DHS is debunking a lot of media narratives using their platform.

Yes but a lot of what they post turns out to be false. It's just government propaganda.
bearister
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The Trump Administration Government websites and other media (like ICE Barbie's dirty lying TSA video video blaming Democrats for the government shutdown) are as reliable as the codswallop shoveled on a Fox News "personality" show.
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MinotStateBeav
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Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?
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bearister said:

,,codswallop..

dint think it was a real word, but turns out it is, according to the infamous internets..
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/codswallop
> "British, informal : words or ideas that are foolish or untrue : nonsense
> The notion that Scott was waylaid by bad luck is "a lot of codswallop," said Roland Huntford, a British historian...

> "Some say he died. Codswallop, in my opinion …" by J. K. Rowling
> I muttered, "Yes, that's right," knowing all the while that it was a load of codswallop. signed, Steven Pinker"
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MinotStateBeav said:

Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?


"Speaker Mike Johnson sought to play down fiery criticism of his leadership from GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene in comments to reporters Tuesday, after she accused top Republicans of having no plan to address the pending expiration of federal health insurance subsidies.

"Not a single Republican in leadership talked to us about this or has given us a plan to help Americans deal with their health insurance premiums DOUBLING!!!" Greene wrote on X Monday night.


Democrats are privately viewing Greene's post with some satisfaction for undercutting the Republican leadership position to keep health care negotiations out of the government shutdown fight. Democratic leaders are pushing for a deal on the expiring subsidies as a condition of reopening government."
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/10/07/congress/mike-johnson-marjorie-taylor-greene-obamacare-00596240
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MinotStateBeav said:

Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?


So republicans radically change things in "reconciliation", which requires 50+1, and then they don't want to negotiate on annual appropriations bills, which requires 60% - they just saying Continuing Resolution as a More of the Same vote.

No. Democrats did not approve the Reconciliation bill and they therefore do not approve of continuing it again.

You want your cake and eat it, too.

How foolish of you to not recognize the way you've been tricked to think one thing when it's always been another.
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movielover said:

When lawless bedlam has been fostered by tens of millions of illegal immigrants over years, including violent gangs, cartel members, and human traffickers, the corrective actions will ocassionally not be perfect.

DC is safer, Memphis is safer, and thousands of dangerous, violent felons are being pulled off the streets.

if my boys and I march up and down your street with our guns your neighborhood would be safer too. Do you want that? And if we make a mistake and tackle you, zip tie your hands and push your face into the ground; oh well. at least your neighborhood is safer.
And if we do, we won't wear masks because we're not *******
MinotStateBeav
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That's the reason there's a CR on the table so they can create a bipartisan bill...thanks for explaining that.
sycasey
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MinotStateBeav said:

Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?

Republicans could vote to nuke the filibuster and pass their own bill any time they want.

If they don't want . . . need to give the Dems something.
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MinotStateBeav said:

That's the reason there's a CR on the table so they can create a bipartisan bill...thanks for explaining that.

The current stalemate would seem to require making at least a few concessions to the Democrats. At least that's what usually happens when you don't have the votes. Insisting that the Democrats give the Republicans everything they want while not conceding anything the Democrats want isn't negotiating and isn't bipartisan. I'd say at this point the shutdown is the fault of both parties. Since I'm not getting paid right now, this is affecting me more than anyone else here, so I'm hoping some adults emerge and get this resolved soon.
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sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?

Republicans could vote to nuke the filibuster and pass their own bill any time they want.

If they don't want . . . need to give the Dems something.


Dems didnt vote to cut healthcare for Americans when Trump's tax cut for the rich bill was passed and there's no reason for Democrats to vote to cut healthcare for Americans now. Republicans control all of government. They can pass the legislation they want.
movielover
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MinotStateBeav said:

Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?


Where are the RIFs?
Eastern Oregon Bear
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movielover said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?


Where are the RIFs?
TACO.
movielover
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dajo9 said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Uhh the democrats are the reason for the shutdown, there's a clean CR on the table, you keep voting it down what is it, 8 times now?

Republicans could vote to nuke the filibuster and pass their own bill any time they want.

If they don't want . . . need to give the Dems something.


Able-bodied non-parental adults can work 20 hours per week to get HC subsidies, a pretty modest contribution instead of being a freeloader.

Dems didnt vote to cut healthcare for Americans when Trump's tax cut for the rich bill was passed and there's no reason for Democrats to vote to cut healthcare for Americans now. Republicans control all of government. They can pass the legislation they want.
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graguna said:

movielover said:

When lawless bedlam has been fostered by tens of millions of illegal immigrants over years, including violent gangs, cartel members, and human traffickers, the corrective actions will ocassionally not be perfect.

DC is safer, Memphis is safer, and thousands of dangerous, violent felons are being pulled off the streets.

if my boys and I march up and down your street with our guns your neighborhood would be safer too. Do you want that? And if we make a mistake and tackle you, zip tie your hands and push your face into the ground; oh well. at least your neighborhood is safer.
And if we do, we won't wear masks because we're not *******



Well you're not a government agent so this feels like a really bad comparison
 
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