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BearlySane88
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Youths.


Eating their own
PAC-10-BEAR
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Should we lock up Tim Walz and put him in one of Obama's cages?
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sycasey said:

Zippergate said:

Being annoying to cops and yelling f-bombs at them is not a reason for arrest. If it is, then we live in a police state. Is that what you're arguing for?

She was obstructing their work we is EXACTLY what she intended to do. You are completely delusional.

Other cars drove around her. They weren't really obstructed. They wanted a confrontation.

SHE wanted a confrontation as well. Well, she got what she wanted. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

That said, shooting someone as they drive away is not even remotely "defending yourself." Firing a weapon in a residential area is a very stupid thing to do. They very easily could have arrested her later non-violently.
SBGold
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what are you talking about, here are the facts from a leading, independent source that is highly regarded:

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  • Independent Research (TRAC & Cato Institute): These groups separate convictions from pending charges. Their analysis of 2025-2026 data shows that roughly 73.6% of people in ICE detention have no criminal convictions. They also note that only about 5% of detainees have convictions for violent crimes (like homicide or assault).
Enforcement Trends in 2025-2026
Under the mass removal campaigns that began in 2025, there has been a dramatic shift in who is being targeted:
  • Surge in Non-Criminal Arrests: Arrests of people with no criminal record grew significantly in 2025. This is often due to "at-large" arrests and "collateral arrests," where ICE agents encounter and detain undocumented individuals while looking for a different target.
  • Administrative Violations: Many individuals categorized as "criminals" by the government are being arrested for immigration-specific offenses, such as illegal re-entry or visa overstays, which are civil or administrative violations rather than violent crimes.
  • Detention Shifts: By late 2025, the ratio of people being deported directly from custody (rather than being released to fight their case) rose sharply, indicating a policy of "detention to deportation" regardless of criminal history."
sorry man, ownage happened to you again. Time to get back to your PE class.

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SBGold
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We get it, it's not play games and win stupid prizes now. It's protest like a patriot and get killed because of a murderous thugs in ICE.

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SBGold
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Maybe, I have to study that a bit more.

What important whether it is Kelly, Gavin, Kerr, etc. is to respond to all the bootlicker posts with the post to VOTE BLUE. Let's use their hateful divisiveness as a conduit to amplify our message and what this country now needs. We are in a crap show as far as our country is concerned, it's embarrassing overall
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Youths.

Thank God for these brave young people. Give our country a chance to heal.

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BearlySane88
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SBGold said:

what are you talking about, here are the facts from a leading, independent source that is highly regarded:

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  • Independent Research (TRAC & Cato Institute): These groups separate convictions from pending charges. Their analysis of 2025-2026 data shows that roughly 73.6% of people in ICE detention have no criminal convictions. They also note that only about 5% of detainees have convictions for violent crimes (like homicide or assault).
Enforcement Trends in 2025-2026
Under the mass removal campaigns that began in 2025, there has been a dramatic shift in who is being targeted:
  • Surge in Non-Criminal Arrests: Arrests of people with no criminal record grew significantly in 2025. This is often due to "at-large" arrests and "collateral arrests," where ICE agents encounter and detain undocumented individuals while looking for a different target.
  • Administrative Violations: Many individuals categorized as "criminals" by the government are being arrested for immigration-specific offenses, such as illegal re-entry or visa overstays, which are civil or administrative violations rather than violent crimes.
  • Detention Shifts: By late 2025, the ratio of people being deported directly from custody (rather than being released to fight their case) rose sharply, indicating a policy of "detention to deportation" regardless of criminal history."
sorry man, ownage happened to you again. Time to get back to your PE class.

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None of these points connect back to your claims I proved wrong but cool story.

Again you stated ICE can't arrest citizens, it can.
You stated ICE under Obama didn't commit heinous acts, they did.
Both proven with facts that you've continued to ignore.

I still don't teach PE but even if I did, okay? If you call that "ownage" I'd ask why don't you respect teachers. Stick to inciting more violence and get your post removed again.
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BearlySane88
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SBGold said:

We get it, it's not play games and win stupid prizes now. It's protest like a patriot and get killed because of a murderous thugs in ICE.

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She could have easily avoided the situation. The fact you place no blame on her actions is very telling.
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SBGold said:

Maybe, I have to study that a bit more.



Might be the first time I've ever agreed with you
BearlySane88
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SBGold said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:


Youths.

Thank God for these brave young people. Give our country a chance to heal.

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Thank god for them beating each other up? Weird take
SBGold
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Look your non-sequiturs and whataboutisms are not going to work with me, or Wags, or dajo, or Bearister, or sy, or smh. You got fellows like lover, Minot, Tenner, furdwife and others that will keep you going.

My truth train is not stopping, buckle up

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BearlySane88
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SBGold said:

Look your non-sequiturs and whataboutisms are not going to work with me, or Wags, or dajo, or Bearister, or sy, or smh. You got fellows like lover, Minot, Tenner, furdwife and others that will keep you going.

My truth train is not stopping, buckle up

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Bro. You stated two false points. I provided facts to prove you wrong. Please explain how that is whataboutism or non-sequiturs

Your "truth" train is already derailed.
sycasey
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Aunburdened said:

sycasey said:

Zippergate said:

Being annoying to cops and yelling f-bombs at them is not a reason for arrest. If it is, then we live in a police state. Is that what you're arguing for?

She was obstructing their work we is EXACTLY what she intended to do. You are completely delusional.

Other cars drove around her. They weren't really obstructed. They wanted a confrontation.

SHE wanted a confrontation as well. Well, she got what she wanted. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

That said, shooting someone as they drive away is not even remotely "defending yourself." Firing a weapon in a residential area is a very stupid thing to do. They very easily could have arrested her later non-violently.

Yes, she did. Or maybe her wife did and convinced her to participate. But either way, I hold law enforcement, who are given guns and authority by the state, to a far higher standard.
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Anarchistbear
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SBGold said:

Look your non-sequiturs and whataboutisms are not going to work with me, or Wags, or dajo, or Bearister, or sy, or smh. You got fellows like lover, Minot, Tenner, furdwife and others that will keep you going.

My truth train is not stopping, buckle up

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All aboard, Riding the Truth Train with The Magistrate
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Aunburdened said:




Yes, an agency is formed in 2003 and twenty years later becomes a national militarized force with a budget bigger than the combined budgets of all state law enforcement and nobody- I mean nobody- knows how this happened!
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SBGold
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I'm steering clear. I'm more about Resist ICE Lawfully

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sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

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sycasey said:




Please don't make me pull up the Obama ICE stories again. He can't revise history.

So there was something like what's happening in Minnesota right now when Obama was president? Do tell.


Multiple SA allegations, Obama ripping families apart, putting people in cages. Posted a bunch of links to it awhile back. It's really not hard for you to look and find

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/border-patrol-was-monstrous-under-obama-imagine

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/lost-in-detention/



https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/exiled-obama-administrations-horrifying

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama

Here's more from my previous post highlighting this
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/129669/replies/2634215

Okay, and those things happened under Trump as well, PLUS we have military patrolling American cities, American citizens and legal residents being swept up and detained, and a protestor shot and killed.

Is it any wonder why people are more upset now?


Because liberals are in a cult that can't see that they already supported all of this during Obama

Sorry, which protestors were shot and killed under Obama? Which cities had military patrolling the streets?

My God, no one is more in a cult than you guys. The bootlicking here is insane.


There weren't mass protests because the right agreed with it too. Are you that dense?

The point is that liberals "supported" (not all of them, but anyway) a policy that was much less disruptive and extra-legal than the one being pursued now. This is not about being in a cult, it's people naturally responding to escalation from a new government.

If you can't see that, you're the dense one.


The point is that liberals have completely changed their stance on the issue because it's Trump. So much so that yall don't even remember the terrible things that happened under Obama's ICE.

Hating someone just because and not based on policies is literally a cult mindset.

Tell me what makes current ICE any less legal than Obama's ICE?

I have named the differences, multiple times. I won't be drawn into another circular argument that lasts for 20+ posts. Engage with my points or don't.

This is the way, needs you to do the homework multiple times.

RESIST BROTHER

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SBGold
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Anarchistbear said:

SBGold said:

Look your non-sequiturs and whataboutisms are not going to work with me, or Wags, or dajo, or Bearister, or sy, or smh. You got fellows like lover, Minot, Tenner, furdwife and others that will keep you going.

My truth train is not stopping, buckle up

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All aboard, Riding the Truth Train with The Magistrate


It's looking good for a judicial appointment for me this year, start calling me "Your Honor"

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SBGold
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Derail this

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minneapolis-ice-shooting-protests-01-15-26

Your lies just keep piling up

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Aunburdened
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SBGold said:

I'm steering clear. I'm more about Resist ICE Lawfully

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Why would you oppose disbanding ICE if you think the agency is a secret police force?
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SBGold said:

Anarchistbear said:

SBGold said:

Look your non-sequiturs and whataboutisms are not going to work with me, or Wags, or dajo, or Bearister, or sy, or smh. You got fellows like lover, Minot, Tenner, furdwife and others that will keep you going.

My truth train is not stopping, buckle up

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE GAVIN

Go Bears Forever


All aboard, Riding the Truth Train with The Magistrate


It's looking good for a judicial appointment for me this year, start calling me "Your Honor"

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I can hardly wait for the Judge Karen show to be in syndication

"Don't take the law into your own hands, take them to court"

Big C
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Aunburdened said:



Sounds reminiscent of "Defund the police!" which didn't exactly play in Peoria... or even Oakland. I have no problem with ICE existing; it's what they are doing and the way they are doing it.

Just substitute "Reform" for "abolish" or "defund".
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Big C said:

Aunburdened said:



Sounds reminiscent of "Defund the police!" which didn't exactly play in Peoria... or even Oakland. I have no problem with ICE existing; it's what they are doing and the way they are doing it.

Just substitute "Reform" for "abolish" or "defund".

Until Democrats learn that you can't pander to Republicans and steal a significant amount of votes (a mistake they continue to make), they'll always look like clowns.

Do something meaningful for your constituents.
SBGold
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This makes no sense. What's secret about ICE?
sycasey
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Aunburdened
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SBGold said:

This makes no sense. What's secret about ICE?

https://www.bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/129669/replies/2568991

Quote:

Michelle Bran, a longtime human rights attorney who directed DHS' ombudsman office during the Biden administration, said Trump's adherence to "the authoritarian playbook is not even subtle."
"ICE, their secret police, is their tool," Bran said. "Once they have that power, which they have now, there's nothing stopping them from using it against citizens."

It's your side's rhetoric, not mine.
sycasey
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Big C said:

Aunburdened said:



Sounds reminiscent of "Defund the police!" which didn't exactly play in Peoria... or even Oakland. I have no problem with ICE existing; it's what they are doing and the way they are doing it.

Just substitute "Reform" for "abolish" or "defund".

ICE is a bit different from police, though.

I get why Dems might be gun shy about using this slogan again, since they did get burned for it with Trump coming back. But these things are fluid and if the administration keeps doubling down on the current approach then political incentives could change quickly.
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SBGold said:

I'm steering clear. I'm more about Resist ICE Lawfully

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That's not what you said this morning
 
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