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In reply to BearlySane88 • 1:36p, 1/24/26
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Fox News 9 reported the scene was overrun.


Thank you for proving what I said.

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proving? If you want to argue then go ahead. I said it was overrun. You said it was over run. There is no crime scene. Ok?
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 1:38p, 1/24/26
cal83dls79 said:
BearlySane88 said:
cal83dls79 said:
Fox News 9 reported the scene was overrun.


Thank you for proving what I said.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/129669/replies/2643020
proving? If you want to argue then go ahead. I said it was overrun. You said it was over run. There is no crime scene. Ok?


Having a conversation isn't arguing so idk what you're on about.

Yes because 200+ people stormed the scene. Did you want ICE to shoot them all?
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On what facts does Stephen Miller base his statement that the decedent was a domestic terrorist trying to assassinate federal officers? I was unaware that there has been an investigation yet. Preliminary reports are that the decedent was a nurse at the VA, had a permit to carry the weapon and had a parking ticket in his past.
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.
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In reply to chazzed • 1:50p, 1/24/26
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BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.


Just because you don't like them doesn't make them unpopular. Polling from last week

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 1:50p, 1/24/26
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A leftist bit off an ICE agent's finger to defend Somalian fraud.


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In reply to bearister • 1:51p, 1/24/26
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On what facts does Stephen Miller base his statement that the decedent was a domestic terrorist trying to assassinate federal officers? I was unaware that there has been an investigation yet. Preliminary reports are that the decedent was a nurse at the VA, had a permit to carry the weapon and had a parking ticket in his past.


As you may recall, our Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem also called Renee Good a "domestic terrorist" before an investigation even began.

I guess these two "domestic terrorists" are right up there with Timothy McVeigh.
Good to know!



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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:56p, 1/24/26
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bearister said:


On what facts does Stephen Miller base his statement that the decedent was a domestic terrorist trying to assassinate federal officers? I was unaware that there has been an investigation yet. Preliminary reports are that the decedent was a nurse at the VA, had a permit to carry the weapon and had a parking ticket in his past.


As you may recall, our Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem also called Renee Good a "domestic terrorist" before an investigation even began.

I guess these two "domestic terrorists" are right up there with Timothy McVeigh.
Good to know!



Below is some information that you can read to help you actually understand what you are talking about. There is no requirement to bomb something.

"The act of domestic terrorism does not require the use of bombs. Federal law broadly defines the act based on intent and outcome, not the specific weapon used.
Under U.S. law, found in the U.S. Code at 18 U.S.C. 2331(5), domestic terrorism involves activities that:
Involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the U.S. or of any State;
Appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
Influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
Affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
The core components are the intent to coerce or intimidate a government or civilian population and the use of dangerous criminal acts to achieve that goal. These acts can range from arson and chemical attacks to armed assaults, hostage-taking, or cyberattacks that cause mass disruption.
Therefore, any act of violence or life-endangering criminal activity intended to further a domestic ideological goal could be considered domestic terrorism, regardless of whether explosives are involved."
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In reply to DiabloWags • 2:01p, 1/24/26
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bearister said:
https://i.ibb.co/TqRWbpqK/IMG-8164.png

On what facts does Stephen Miller base his statement that the decedent was a domestic terrorist trying to assassinate federal officers? I was unaware that there has been an investigation yet. Preliminary reports are that the decedent was a nurse at the VA, had a permit to carry the weapon and had a parking ticket in his past.


As you may recall, our Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem also called Renee Good a "domestic terrorist" before an investigation even began.

I guess these two "domestic terrorists" are right up there with Timothy McVeigh.
Good to know!





patiently waiting for your source from your JD "quote"
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2:07p, 1/24/26


I am curious about BearlySane's take on the pardoning of the J6ers
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 2:09p, 1/24/26
Do you want to start the "Official Republicans' Lack of Self-Reflection as to Why They Got Slaughtered in the Midterms" thread or shall I?
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 2:14p, 1/24/26
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sycasey said:

They are hiring illegals as sheriffs who lied to get their jobs and this clown is acting like we're gonna deport an angel. If you are not a citizen you should NEVER get a job as law enforcement. That's some of the most ridiculous garbage I've read in awhile.

I can't say for sure this is true everywhere, but in my experience, Sheriffs are elected, not hired.
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 2:14p, 1/24/26
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Video clearly shows removal of legally carried and holstered weapon in his wristband by dude in gray jacket….THEN the murder.

*edit waistband


Bingo.

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In reply to brobear • 2:16p, 1/24/26
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> did you just make that quote up? if not, what's your source?

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I am curious about BearlySane's take on the pardoning of the J6ers


A majority of people were overcharged and faced years in prison for simply walking into the building. Pardons were acceptable and valid in that situation. Others were more violent and probably shouldn't have been pardoned.
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In reply to chazzed • 2:28p, 1/24/26
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Do you want to start the "Official Republicans' Lack of Self-Reflection as to Why They Got Slaughtered in the Midterms" thread or shall I?


All you big dawg. Put it with the "Official Democrats Lack of self reflection as to why they lost the election" thread
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 2:31p, 1/24/26
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MinotStateBeav said:
sycasey said:

They are hiring illegals as sheriffs who lied to get their jobs and this clown is acting like we're gonna deport an angel. If you are not a citizen you should NEVER get a job as law enforcement. That's some of the most ridiculous garbage I've read in awhile.

I can't say for sure this is true everywhere, but in my experience, Sheriffs are elected, not hired.


I think he meant the Sheriff's office is hiring because I think you're correct
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 2:33p, 1/24/26
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chazzed said:
Do you want to start the "Official Republicans' Lack of Self-Reflection as to Why They Got Slaughtered in the Midterms" thread or shall I?


All you big dawg. Put it with the "Official Democrats Lack of self reflection as to why they lost the election" thread


Based on the summary execution of American citizens in our streets, tinkering with the midterm elections would actually be a downgrading of misconduct.
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In reply to chazzed • 2:36p, 1/24/26
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Do you want to start the "Official Republicans' Lack of Self-Reflection as to Why They Got Slaughtered in the Midterms" thread or shall I?

Wait until Tim Walz and Ilhan Omar go to prison first.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 2:37p, 1/24/26
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cal83dls79 said:
Video clearly shows removal of legally carried and holstered weapon in his wristband by dude in gray jacket….THEN the murder.

*edit waistband


Bingo.



The guy who was shot was reaching for it anyways and likely had magazines in his waistband also as they found two on the scene. My guess is ICE saw the gun, called it out, one removed the gun and other ICE agents saw the man reaching and saw the magazines and opened fire. That or the man grabbed at an agents gun.

Regardless of what happened, this man was clearly not trained well in how to handle yourself when armed around law enforcement. If carrying, you never give law enforcement a reason to suspect you might use the gun on them. That will end badly every time. He could have complied and put his hands behind his back and he'd have spent the night in jail.
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Hey folks, I just earned a quick ban from the mods for my "bootlicker" meme that I posted earlier. Just a warning to you all in case you want to use even saltier language in describing those who defend another ICE murder.
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How long were you banned?
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Hey folks, I just earned a quick ban from the mods for my "bootlicker" meme that I posted earlier. Just a warning to you all in case you want to use even saltier language in describing another ICE murder.


I tried to warn you
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How long were you banned?

Just a few hours as it turns out, but it was originally for 24 hours. I messaged the mod and said that I didn't consider it a personal insult and didn't intend it that way. He restored me but warned against using personal insults again.

(Again, I consider "bootlicking" a characterization of the person's argument and not an insult about them as a person but I guess it's not seen that way when it's on this topic. Fair warning to anyone else, as I didn't realize this until the ban came down.)
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In reply to oski003 • 2:42p, 1/24/26
"Below is some information that you can read to help you actually understand what you are talking about."

The funny thing is that you and your pals are the ones that go crying to the yard lady when you feel you get bullied at recess. I got flagged and warned by your team members.

I never ratted on bullies on the playground because I handled it myself and I would never flag or block anyone here.
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sycasey said:
Hey folks, I just earned a quick ban from the mods for my "bootlicker" meme that I posted earlier. Just a warning to you all in case you want to use even saltier language in describing another ICE murder.


I tried to warn you

Thank you sir, may I have another?
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> did you just make that quote up? if not, what's your source?

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long time lurker, as my kids would call it. i didn't want to participate because all i saw was people insulting each other back and forth. after seeing the mods stating that would be handled with a heavy hand i decided i would give it a go.

thanks for the friendly welcome smh. i and still curious where diablowags got the quote he's connecting to JD
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.


Just because you don't like them doesn't make them unpopular. Polling from last week

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling

Let's look at all the polls, not just one that looks good for Trump.

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BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
Hey folks, I just earned a quick ban from the mods for my "bootlicker" meme that I posted earlier. Just a warning to you all in case you want to use even saltier language in describing another ICE murder.


I tried to warn you

Thank you sir, may I have another?




Did I do that right Bearister?
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In reply to sycasey • 2:48p, 1/24/26
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PAC-10-BEAR said:
How long were you banned?

Just a few hours as it turns out, but it was originally for 24 hours. I messaged the mod and said that I didn't consider it a personal insult and didn't intend it that way. He restored me but warned against using personal insults again.

(Again, I consider "bootlicking" a characterization of the person's argument and not an insult about them as a person but I guess it's not seen that way when it's on this topic. Fair warning to anyone else, as I didn't realize this until the ban came down.)


Fair but there are definitely others here who use it as an insult to the person not the argument
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.


Just because you don't like them doesn't make them unpopular. Polling from last week

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling

Let's look at all the polls, not just one that looks good for Trump.



I looked at this but it's hard to believe those numbers when the economy and inflation are actually doing incredibly well right now.
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