bearister said:

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oski003 said:

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bearister said:

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ICE fully geared up fro assault on America.

"Upon closer inspection, the agents' equipment tells its own story. Their gear is the physical manifestation of decades of war, fine-tuned and perfected for close-quarters killing over myriad operations in faraway lands but now wielded in broad daylight in American cities. This type of equipment is often reserved for SWAT and hostage rescue units."
NY Times

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Why do their uniforms say, "Police?"

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"ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents often wear vests marked "POLICE" to utilize a recognized symbol of authority, which helps facilitate, or acts as a "ruse" for, entering homes and conducting operations without immediately identifying as federal immigration enforcement. While they are federal agents, not local police, they use this tactic for compliance and safety.

Key reasons and context regarding ICE using "POLICE" on uniforms:
Ruse Tactics: ICE agents frequently use the term "police" to gain cooperation or entry into homes, as residents may be more likely to open the door for local police than for immigration agents.

Operational Safety & Recognition: ICE representatives claim that "police" is a universally recognized term for law enforcement, making it effective for identifying themselves as such.

Uniform Ambiguity: According to the ACLU of Southern California, ICE agents often wear plain clothes or tactical vests that lack specific agency identification, opting for the generic "POLICE" label.

Distinction from Local Law Enforcement: While ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers, they are distinct from local police departments, a fact that can be obscured by this labeling.
Controversy and Legal Action: This practice has drawn criticism and lawsuits, with some jurisdictions, such as California, moving to restrict or ban the use of "police" by immigration agents to avoid confusion and protect trust in local police."
AI Overview

https://www.aclusocal.org/ice-impersonation-police-faq/

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MinotStateBeav said:

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There is no shooting if MPD does what they were suppose to do. Liberals are letting the city of Minneapolis off the hook here because they supported what they were doing. The police are not suppose to be a political arm. The fact that they were used in such a way is abhorrent and that should never be happening again.

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ICE Operation. Boston,MA.

Filipe Medeiros Dos Anjos from Brazil arrested.

Witness Intimidation
Assault & Battery causing bodily injury to a child.
Suffocation & Strangulation
Fugitive from Justice pic.twitter.com/QVA1fLe2L9

— Adam Absaroka (@AAbsaroka) January 28, 2026

SBGold said:

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If it's a first time offense she should just get a brief timeout. We need medical professionals

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SBGold said:

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Seriously, a lot of banning should occur. It's damn free for all in OT currently with these MAGAs

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE GAVIN

Go Bears Forever

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sycasey said:

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I do not support any further bans on this site, other than for breaking the stated rules (personal attacks, etc.).

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MinotStateBeav said:

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There is no shooting if MPD does what they were suppose to do. Liberals are letting the city of Minneapolis off the hook here because they supported what they were doing. The police are not suppose to be a political arm. The fact that they were used in such a way is abhorrent and that should never be happening again.

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oski003 said:

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I disagree with ICE pretending to be POLICE.

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SBGold said:

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At this point, protestors should just wear the miscellaneous garb that ICE is wearing and wear the masks and just start disrupting their activities. I'll be ready to protest soon.

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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I'm afraid that the radical Left looks at cases like Laken Riley and says, "See, the Right weaponizes tragedy so it's okay if we do the same." To that I say, good grief, think deeply about the details of these two cases. They are not the same. If you are outraged by what happened to Pretti and not by what happened to Riley (including all the conditions that were allowed to happen leading up to it), I don't know what to say; it shocks me that an intelligent, decent person could come to that conclusion.

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Riley's killer was caught and prosecuted by the government and sentenced to life in prison.

Meanwhile, the government is covering up for the guys who killed Alex Pretti, mostly because it WAS the government who killed him. That's the difference.

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MinotStateBeav said:

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There is no shooting if MPD does what they were suppose to do. Liberals are letting the city of Minneapolis off the hook here because they supported what they were doing. The police are not suppose to be a political arm. The fact that they were used in such a way is abhorrent and that should never be happening again.

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Zippergate said:

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Zippergate said:

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I'm afraid that the radical Left looks at cases like Laken Riley and says, "See, the Right weaponizes tragedy so it's okay if we do the same." To that I say, good grief, think deeply about the details of these two cases. They are not the same. If you are outraged by what happened to Pretti and not by what happened to Riley (including all the conditions that were allowed to happen leading up to it), I don't know what to say; it shocks me that an intelligent, decent person could come to that conclusion.

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Riley's killer was caught and prosecuted by the government and sentenced to life in prison.

Meanwhile, the government is covering up for the guys who killed Alex Pretti, mostly because it WAS the government who killed him. That's the difference.

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Yes and no. The proximate cause of her death, the illegal murderer may have been apprehended and prosecuted, but the ultimate cause was a immigration system that allowed unvetted criminals to roam free in the country. THAT is what angers decent people and it's why the vast majority of Americans want all the criminal aliens gone. Yet your heroes, Good and Pretti, break the law to defend them.

Their deaths are not the same. We are not the same.

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sycasey said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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There is no shooting if MPD does what they were suppose to do. Liberals are letting the city of Minneapolis off the hook here because they supported what they were doing. The police are not suppose to be a political arm. The fact that they were used in such a way is abhorrent and that should never be happening again.

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Got to find everyone to blame except the guy who pulled the trigger, I guess.

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Zippergate said:

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Only problem is, ICE has been collecting and deporting illegals all over the country without incident. It's only in places like MN where there is a corrupt, openly hostile police force that refuses to cooperate and a highly organized, trained group of "protesters" funded by foreign organizations intent on destroying this country.

Your arguments remind me of the town of Rockridge in Blazing Saddles.

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MinotStateBeav said:

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sycasey said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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There is no shooting if MPD does what they were suppose to do. Liberals are letting the city of Minneapolis off the hook here because they supported what they were doing. The police are not suppose to be a political arm. The fact that they were used in such a way is abhorrent and that should never be happening again.

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Got to find everyone to blame except the guy who pulled the trigger, I guess.

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Does the guy who pulled the trigger work as a police officer or as a federal immigration officer.....is there a difference between the 2 jobs....

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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Then Michael Byrd is a murderer. Waiting for the outrage. Not going to hold my breath.

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I have watched video footage of both incidents and it is clear to me that there was way more reason for Byrd to believe there was an active physical threat coming at him than there was for the agents who shot Alex Pretti. I don't know how anyone could watch both incidents side-by-side and come to any other conclusion unless you're being completely dishonest about it.

You can still potentially believe that Ashli Babbitt's killing was an unreasonable use of force. There's an argument for that. But the situations are not remotely the same.

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BREAKING - Federal agents are now moving through the interior of Minnesota performing door knock checks while being largely ignored by agitators after numerous anti ICE Signal chats were discovered being led by multiple Minnesota Democrat state officials.pic.twitter.com/lOGOArTy1Q

— Right Angle News Network (@Rightanglenews) January 28, 2026

SBGold said:

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Your in Minot, isn't it known that goats are very important to the male populace there?

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sycasey said:

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Illegal immigrants do not commit crimes (besides the illegal immigration, of course) at a rate any higher than native born Americans.

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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The Democratic Party is PRO-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

They won't publicly admit this, but this is the basis to help understand everything else they say and do.

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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Then Michael Byrd is a murderer. Waiting for the outrage. Not going to hold my breath.

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I have watched video footage of both incidents and it is clear to me that there was way more reason for Byrd to believe there was an active physical threat coming at him than there was for the agents who shot Alex Pretti. I don't know how anyone could watch both incidents side-by-side and come to any other conclusion unless you're being completely dishonest about it.

You can still potentially believe that Ashli Babbitt's killing was an unreasonable use of force. There's an argument for that. But the situations are not remotely the same.

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You're actually right about something for a change. They are not remotely the same.
Did Ashli Babbitt have a gun? Was there any reason to believe that she had a gun? No and no.
Byrd was supported by other officers and there were many officers on the other side of the glass. He had no reason to believe his life was in danger and made no attempt to deter Babbitt before resorting to deadly force.
I don't think it was murder but it was far less justified than the killings of either Good or Pretti.

You might be more persuasive if you started with the facts and evidence instead of the conclusion when forming your views.

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sycasey said:

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Illegal immigrants do not commit crimes (besides the illegal immigration, of course) at a rate any higher than native born Americans.

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How did you come up with that?

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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Illegal immigrants do not commit crimes (besides the illegal immigration, of course) at a rate any higher than native born Americans.

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How did you come up with that?

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https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunking-myth-immigrants-and-crime/

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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Illegal immigrants do not commit crimes (besides the illegal immigration, of course) at a rate any higher than native born Americans.

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How did you come up with that?

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https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunking-myth-immigrants-and-crime/

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One study doesn't make distinctions between legal and illegal immigrants, and the other study only looks at numbers from Texas for a small period of time prior to Biden

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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Illegal immigrants do not commit crimes (besides the illegal immigration, of course) at a rate any higher than native born Americans.

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How did you come up with that?

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https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunking-myth-immigrants-and-crime/

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One study doesn't make distinctions between legal and illegal immigrants, and the other study only looks at numbers from Texas for a small period of time prior to Biden

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https://www.policinginstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Appendix-D_0.pdf

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bearister said:

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> AI Overview

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DiabloWags said:

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How ironic that many Trumpers no longer care about the 2nd and 10th Amendment anymore.

These are the same people that tell us not to bring a gun to a protest, but conveniiently forget about Kyle Rittenhouse.

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— Denis (@Reacher1305) January 28, 2026