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oski003
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DiabloWags said:

Less than 14% of those arrested by ICE in Trump's 1st year back in office had violent criminal records, document shows - CBS News

39% have no criminal record.

Sounds like a flawed operation.

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61% with criminal records. 14% violent criminal records.

Nice job ICE, even if you aren't right 100% of the time.
DiabloWags
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I'm not surprised by your undying support of ICE and Trump..... even if it means detaining and zip-tying kids and causing tons of emotional trauma.

We've already seen your "take" on a 5 year old in Minnesota.

Does the end justify the means?
Even if it traumatizes INNOCENT people?

If children were traumatized, it's just collateral damage?

Are you really a Dad?
Have kids?

In southwest Idaho FBI raid, officials zip-tied teens and used aggressive force, lawsuit alleges Idaho Capital Sun

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A 14-year-old girl described being zip-tied during Idaho raid, sparking fresh questions about ICE tactics - CBS News

https://share.google/eixa3NXckVNywFgD7


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oski003
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DiabloWags said:

I'm not surprised by your undying support of ICE and Trump..... even if it means detaining and zip-tying kids and causing tons of emotional trauma.

We've already seen your "take" on a 5 year old in Minnesota.

Does the end justify the means?
Even if it traumatizes INNOCENT people?

If children were traumatized, it's just collateral damage?

Are you really a Dad?
Have kids?

In southwest Idaho FBI raid, officials zip-tied teens and used aggressive force, lawsuit alleges Idaho Capital Sun

https://share.google/qy8cvc8SiYxnd6UXu




Yup, I am really a dad. I have kids. I have seen your "take" on the 5 year old whose mom wouldn't open the door for him in Minnesota. Yes, children are collateral damage when parents are arrested or deported, etc. This isn't new. And, yes, there are instances where agents mess up. That's not new either.
DiabloWags
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Your lack of empathy reminds me of Domald Trump.
For your children's sake, I hope you develop some.

Trump's Impaired Empathy - by Alan Michael Karbelnig, PhD

https://share.google/yLlnW2of5gaSg1Rxr

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BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

Your lack of empathy reminds me of Domald Trump.
For your children's sake, I hope you develop some.

Trump's Impaired Empathy - by Alan Michael Karbelnig, PhD

https://share.google/yLlnW2of5gaSg1Rxr




Leave people's children out of this forum. Your post is classless for someone who likes to post fancy cars.
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DiabloWags said:

Less than 14% of those arrested by ICE in Trump's 1st year back in office had violent criminal records, document shows - CBS News

39% have no criminal record.

Sounds like a flawed operation.

https://share.google/ZXetvor5tDmTijjbu






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smh
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>.. I got some friends inside

^ short but sweet
# funk trunk
MinotStateBeav
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I don't agree with FIRE here, these apps aren't just there so ICE can be recorded, these apps are there to help people avoid ICE and trap ICE. I see them much more nefarious in nature since the internet is everywhere now and people are in constant communication. At some point the federal officers have to be allowed to do their jobs and if you don't like it, you change the laws.
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MinotStateBeav said:

I don't agree with FIRE here, these apps aren't just there so ICE can be recorded, these apps are there to help people avoid ICE and trap ICE. I see them much more nefarious in nature since the internet is everywhere now and people are in constant communication. At some point the federal officers have to be allowed to do their jobs and if you don't like it, you change the laws.

Like I say all the time on this forum, most people don't support free speech
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Aunburdened said:

MinotStateBeav said:

I don't agree with FIRE here, these apps aren't just there so ICE can be recorded, these apps are there to help people avoid ICE and trap ICE. I see them much more nefarious in nature since the internet is everywhere now and people are in constant communication. At some point the federal officers have to be allowed to do their jobs and if you don't like it, you change the laws.

Like I say all the time on this forum, most people don't support free speech

Stalking is not free speech no matter how you try to color it.
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Aunburdened
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MinotStateBeav said:

Aunburdened said:

MinotStateBeav said:

I don't agree with FIRE here, these apps aren't just there so ICE can be recorded, these apps are there to help people avoid ICE and trap ICE. I see them much more nefarious in nature since the internet is everywhere now and people are in constant communication. At some point the federal officers have to be allowed to do their jobs and if you don't like it, you change the laws.

Like I say all the time on this forum, most people don't support free speech

Stalking is not free speech no matter how you try to color it.

You're conflating the speech portion with the action portion. People are still responsible for their actions if they show up to interfere.
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Eastern Oregon Bear
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movielover said:


You conveniently overlook ICE normalizing violence in their day to day operations.
BearlySane88
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sycasey
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More DHS lies that failed to hold up against video evidence. They shot at an American citizen five times. Fortunately this one didn't die.

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Aunburdened said:




Do you think any of your Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs wingnut brothers here are ICE masked engagement operatives trawling for Berkeley dissidents disloyal to the state?

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BearlySane88 said:



Randy Fine is a disgusting human being.
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bearister said:

Aunburdened said:



Do you think any of your Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs wingnut brothers here are ICE masked engagement operatives trawling for Berkeley dissidents disloyal to the state?



I don't think someone with a terminal case of TDS is in a position to pass mental health judgments on the rest of this forum.
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Aunburdened said:

bearister said:

Aunburdened said:



Do you think any of your Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs wingnut brothers here are ICE masked engagement operatives trawling for Berkeley dissidents disloyal to the state?



I don't think someone with a terminal case of TDS is in a position to pass mental health judgments on the rest of this forum.


Didn't anyone advise you that whatever flex was built into the TDS deflector was exceeded by his actions in Trump II and that most of his supporters know it has lost its viability?

Who is passing mental health judgments "on the rest of this forum?" I was just referring to less than a handful of posters, you know, the ones that actually think you are a sincere political ally and star your posts.

….and since I know you are a huge fan of the free AI available via Google (that is a year out of date already), this is for you:

Trump Derangement Syndrome

Rhetorical Shield: The label is frequently used by supporters of Donald Trump to reflexively dismiss any criticism, regardless of its merit. By pathologizing the critic, the accuser avoids having to address specific facts or policy arguments.

Weaponization of Psychiatry:* Critics argue the term "weaponizes" the language of mental health in bad faith. It lacks any clinical data, diagnostic criteria, or recognition from major mental health organizations like the American Psychiatric Association.

Political Gaslighting: By suggesting that opponents are "irrational" or "deranged," the label is seen as a tool for gaslighting that aims to make critics doubt their own perceptions of reality.

Erosion of Discourse: Using emotionally charged insults like TDS is criticized for deepening social polarization and discouraging constructive engagement.

Legitimizing Aggression: Some suggest that when leaders use such labels, it normalizes the dehumanization of political opponents, which can trigger real-world hostility or conflict.

Irony of the Label: Some critics have flipped the term, suggesting the "real" derangement is the unquestioning, "unwavering support" of die-hard supporters who ignore facts or consequences."


*It looks like by just using the term "TDS" you have joined the ranks of amateur psychologists


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BearlySane88
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bearister said:

Aunburdened said:

bearister said:

Aunburdened said:



Do you think any of your Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs wingnut brothers here are ICE masked engagement operatives trawling for Berkeley dissidents disloyal to the state?



I don't think someone with a terminal case of TDS is in a position to pass mental health judgments on the rest of this forum.


Didn't anyone advise you that whatever flex was built into the TDS deflector was exceeded by his actions in Trump II and that most of his supporters know it has lost its viability?

Who is passing mental health judgments "on the rest of this forum?" I was just referring to less than a handful of posters, you know, the ones that actually think you are a sincere political ally and star your posts.

….and since I know you are a huge fan of the free AI available via Google (that is a year out of date already), this is for you:

Trump Derangement Syndrome

Rhetorical Shield: The label is frequently used by supporters of Donald Trump to reflexively dismiss any criticism, regardless of its merit. By pathologizing the critic, the accuser avoids having to address specific facts or policy arguments.

Weaponization of Psychiatry:* Critics argue the term "weaponizes" the language of mental health in bad faith. It lacks any clinical data, diagnostic criteria, or recognition from major mental health organizations like the American Psychiatric Association.

Political Gaslighting: By suggesting that opponents are "irrational" or "deranged," the label is seen as a tool for gaslighting that aims to make critics doubt their own perceptions of reality.

Erosion of Discourse: Using emotionally charged insults like TDS is criticized for deepening social polarization and discouraging constructive engagement.

Legitimizing Aggression: Some suggest that when leaders use such labels, it normalizes the dehumanization of political opponents, which can trigger real-world hostility or conflict.

Irony of the Label: Some critics have flipped the term, suggesting the "real" derangement is the unquestioning, "unwavering support" of die-hard supporters who ignore facts or consequences."


*It looks like by just using the term "TDS" you have joined the ranks of amateur psychologists





TDS at its finest.





bearister
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"I had one patient who couldn't enjoy vacation because she saw Trump on her device or news, and felt triggered."

Yeah, seeing U.S. citizens murdered in the streets by ICE officers ill trained in crowd control (and the government lying about the circumstances despite the videos) and watching Bibi manipulate Trump into a war with Iran can make discerning people unsettled.

*Being labeled as having TDS by a fringe hack like Eric Daughtery gives the labeled person instant credibility. The double down on TDS speaks volumes.
….and thanks for quoting the entire text of my post!
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BearlySane88
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bearister said:

"I had one patient who couldn't enjoy vacation because she saw Trump on her device or news, and felt triggered."

Yeah, seeing U.S. citizens murdered in the streets by ICE officers ill trained in crowd control (and the government lying about the circumstances despite the videos) and watching Bibi manipulate Trump into a war with Iran can make discerning people unsettled.

*Being labeled as having TDS by a fringe hack like Eric Daughtery gives the labeled person instant credibility. The double down on TDS speaks volumes.
….and thanks for quoting the entire text of my post!



The quote you chose says the patient saw Trump. That's all it took to trigger this reaction. Nothing else but seeing him. That's derangement bro. If you can't see how ridiculous that is, then you're clearly too far into the delusion yourself. I didn't like Obama by his second term but seeing him didn't trigger me.

And it isn't Daughtery that you should listen to, it's the dr saying you have TDS.
bearister
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You are a sage, like Mose Allison.



Jonathan Alpert's Mis-Statements, And Possible Misconduct https://www.forbes.com/sites/toddessig/2012/04/23/jonathan-alperts-mis-statements-and-possible-misconduct/
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sycasey
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But don't call it a concentration camp.

BearlySane88
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sycasey said:

But don't call it a concentration camp.



Pretty sure people didn't have the option to leave concentration camps and go back to their country or origin.
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