Illegal Immigration

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DiabloWags
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Las Lomas High Alum in Walnut Creek (Class of '76) and Constitutional Scholar, Akhil Amar.
In this weekend's WSJ on Birthright Citizenship.

Akhil Reed Amar | Yale Law School

Born 67 years ago this month.

https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/history/what-birthright-citizenship-gave-to-me-97c71656?st=tfDW2r&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


movielover
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People are policy.

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"The Trump administration is planning to make the test to become a U.S. citizen more difficult, possibly with an essay requirement that would help give officials wide discretion on which immigrants are approved, Axios' Brittany Gibson reports.

The essay plan is emerging days after administration officials said they would apply increased scrutiny on whether citizenship applicants meet a standard for "good moral character."

Can they make this a requirement for running for POTUS too?

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Cal88
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movielover said:

Christopher Hitchens warned us 15 years ago.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DN_FIgODNCk/?igsh=MTY1M3RmMGFiazAzag==



FYI Hitchens is ranting here about a religion "from the desert of Palestine", ...so Christianity.

He was a fanatically anti-religious atheist, an ideological current that was fairly popular last decade with him and people like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris as its main popular figureheads.
Cal88
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movielover said:




Here is the problem, the sheer volume of open border mass immigration of young largely unskilled men from the developing world. In Europe the problem is further compounded by the fact that their economies are deindustrializing and already facing structural unemployment issues.
movielover
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Millions of unemployed, energetic young men without families, sustained by free money and cell phones. What could go wrong?
movielover
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Illegal immigrant allegedly kills young Black woman. So sad.

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If Kamala won, the U.S. would be doing the same thing as the British are doing now.
movielover
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They have to arrest the war heros to cover up the mass r*pe, torture, and pimping of little girls.

Really reveals, among other things, what a class-based society it is.
Cal88
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movielover said:

They have to arrest the war heros to cover up the mass r*pe, torture, and pimping of little girls.

Really reveals, among other things, what a class-based society it is.



They arrested him because he protested against the Israeli genocide, same reason they arrested this 83 year old former reverend.


The repression of pro-Palestinian protesters is even harsher on the continent in Europe:




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It looks like the Hyundai raid was an own goal by the administration.

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They dragged out more than 300 South Korean engineers and specialists. People flown in to help stand the place up so it could eventually employ thousands of Georgians/Americans.

This plant wasn't scheduled to start running until late 2025 or early 2026. These workers weren't taking jobs; they were building the factory that would create them.

movielover
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So pro-Palestinians can't protest, but they'll allow millions to migrate legally and illegally. So the issue is... don't cross Israel?
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More examples of all those good, decent, hard working migrants doing the produce picking, meat packing, landscaping and hotel work that Americans wouldn't do (emphasis added):

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/09/09/sanctuary-state-california-ice-arrests-illegal-alien-49-prior-arrests-burglary-assault-drunk-driving/

Sanctuary State California: ICE Arrests Illegal Alien with 49 Prior Arrests for Burglary, Assault, Drunk Driving

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents arrested an illegal alien with 49 prior criminal arrests in the sanctuary state of California, along with several other illegal aliens across the United States.

Over the weekend ICE agents arrested illegal alien Miguel Barrera-Corona of Mexico, who had 49 past arrests, including convictions for assault with a deadly weapon, burglary, vehicle theft, criminal threats to terrorize, drunk driving, shoplifting, carrying a loaded firearm in public, carrying a concealed firearm in a vehicle, trespassing, property damage, vandalism, petty theft, and carrying a concealed dagger.
"Over the weekend, ICE arrested drug traffickers, human traffickers, child predators, and sex offenders. One of the criminal illegal aliens was previously arrested 49 times," the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement.

Other illegal aliens arrested by ICE agents over the weekend include:
  • Carlos Guzman-Santiago of Mexico, convicted of second-degree forcible sex offense
  • Glenda Molina-Sorto of El Salvador, convicted of child abuse and possession/purchase for sale of narcotics
  • Juan Carlos Jimenez of the Dominican Republic, convicted of third-degree sexual assaultintercourse with a family member
  • Jorge Carmona-Martinez of Mexico, convicted of unlawful contact with a minor
  • Carlos Sipriano Moreno-Pineda of Honduras, convicted of inflicting corporal injury on a spouse/cohabitant
  • Mauricio Barrios-Satay of Guatemala, convicted of assault by intentionally or recklessly causing physical injury to another person
  • Benigno Carrillo-Hernandez of Honduras, convicted of conspiracy to transport illegal aliens
  • Karen Hernandez-Medrano of Mexico, convicted of alien smuggling
  • Miguel Perez-Herrera of Mexico, convicted of conspiracy to distribute 50 grams or more of methamphetamine
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Building plants to manufacture the batteries and related computing chips for electric cars requires very specific technical knowledge, according to Ellen Hughes-Cromwick, former chief global economist at Ford.

"You have certain positions that are very, very technical," said Hughes-Cromwick, now a senior visiting fellow at the center-left think tank Third Way. "These are people who have installed the equipment before. … It's really ludicrous to think that we're not going to have foreign-born workers as part of our workforce as we get manufacturing back on our soil."

Battery plants require electromechanical processes that are far more complex than those at traditional car assembly plants, with proprietary industrial systems that most U.S. workers are not trained to operate. The engineers designing and building the plant need to have deep experience controlling potential contaminants, mixing volatile chemicals, and installing equipment that can handle voltage loads exponentially higher than those at legacy factories.

"We are more than capable of building and staffing those plants, but not instantaneously," said Chris Nichols, CEO of the Interstate Renewable Energy Council, a group that is eager to see the United States resurgent in manufacturing these advanced technologies. "Just saying we are going to build the plant doesn't create 500 to 1,000 highly specialized engineers and other workers who happen to be in Georgia."

But the U.S. does not have a visa program designed to enable foreign firms to bring hundreds of skilled workers for weeks or months to construct such a plant, according to immigration lawyers and economists.

How the Hyundai raid could upend Trump's dream of more U.S. factories


movielover
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Then develop a temporary, skilled visa program, if truly needed, while also setting up local junior colleges and tech training to train local applicants. Fast track it, fast track training.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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movielover said:

Then develop a temporary, skilled visa program, if truly needed, while also setting up local junior colleges and tech training to train local applicants. Fast track it, fast track training.
Personally, I don't want to drive a car built by employees with fast tracked training. Or have others driving them around me.
movielover
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The above sources claim the illegal workers are only setting up the plant, requiring alleged special skills, not building cars.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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movielover said:

The above sources claim the illegal workers are only setting up the plant, requiring alleged special skills, not building cars.
So you're suggesting that companies hold off building their plants while the workers setting up the plant complete their fast tracked training?
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DiabloWags said:




Building plants to manufacture the batteries and related computing chips for electric cars requires very specific technical knowledge, according to Ellen Hughes-Cromwick, former chief global economist at Ford.

"You have certain positions that are very, very technical," said Hughes-Cromwick, now a senior visiting fellow at the center-left think tank Third Way. "These are people who have installed the equipment before. … It's really ludicrous to think that we're not going to have foreign-born workers as part of our workforce as we get manufacturing back on our soil."

Battery plants require electromechanical processes that are far more complex than those at traditional car assembly plants, with proprietary industrial systems that most U.S. workers are not trained to operate. The engineers designing and building the plant need to have deep experience controlling potential contaminants, mixing volatile chemicals, and installing equipment that can handle voltage loads exponentially higher than those at legacy factories.

"We are more than capable of building and staffing those plants, but not instantaneously," said Chris Nichols, CEO of the Interstate Renewable Energy Council, a group that is eager to see the United States resurgent in manufacturing these advanced technologies. "Just saying we are going to build the plant doesn't create 500 to 1,000 highly specialized engineers and other workers who happen to be in Georgia."

But the U.S. does not have a visa program designed to enable foreign firms to bring hundreds of skilled workers for weeks or months to construct such a plant, according to immigration lawyers and economists.

How the Hyundai raid could upend Trump's dream of more U.S. factories

Something doesn't add up. Prior reports indicated the detainees entered the country illegally, were on non-work visas, tourist visas and / or had overstayed their visas. Those don't profile as highly specialized workers with unique skillsets.
DiabloWags
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tequila4kapp said:

Something doesn't add up. Prior reports indicated the detainees entered the country illegally, were in non-work visas, tourist visas and / or had overstayed their visas. Those don't profile as highly specialized workers with unique skillsets.


The U.S. has a massive shortage of skilled technical workers. 67,000 in semiconductors at risk of remaining unfilled by 2030, according to the WSJ.

Lawyer says South Korean engineers and installers were doing authorized work at Hyundai | AP News https://share.google/hXtwBrjWeUdU4tsyx
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These videos are unacceptable.

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