Agent Orange tries to call into Fox and they drop him for the Gutfeld show opening. He should go anywhere that will take him. He's got that Musk X thing I guesstequila4kapp said:Isntbit obvious? First Leslie Stahl was wrong about Hunter's computer, now this. They are in the bag for Harris. He is smart to avoid this crap, as well as avoid biased another biased panel of moderators at a debate. And it's stupid of the media to give him this out - he'd self sabotage if they just gave him a straight shot.SBGold said:why doesn't Agent Orange go on 60 Minutes?Deep Throat said:movielover said:
CBS 60-Minutes also completely erased parts of the interview and structurally moved answers to questions in an intentional effort to assist the Harris campaign.
CBS completely changed the interview.Ex-CBS staffers call for outside probe of ‘60 Minutes’ interview with Kamala Harris amid editing scandal https://t.co/uIQtCUwoAb pic.twitter.com/ySTRFdD2Fj
— New York Post (@nypost) October 10, 2024
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The 'thing' that garnered nearly a billion views for a two-hour conversation?
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?tequila4kapp said:Isntbit obvious? First Leslie Stahl was wrong about Hunter's computer, now this. They are in the bag for Harris. He is smart to avoid this crap, as well as avoid biased another biased panel of moderators at a debate. And it's stupid of the media to give him this out - he'd self sabotage if they just gave him a straight shot.SBGold said:why doesn't Agent Orange go on 60 Minutes?Deep Throat said:movielover said:
CBS 60-Minutes also completely erased parts of the interview and structurally moved answers to questions in an intentional effort to assist the Harris campaign.
CBS completely changed the interview.Ex-CBS staffers call for outside probe of ‘60 Minutes’ interview with Kamala Harris amid editing scandal https://t.co/uIQtCUwoAb pic.twitter.com/ySTRFdD2Fj
— New York Post (@nypost) October 10, 2024
and his polling dropped after? Yes, that onemovielover said:
The 'thing' that garnered nearly a billion views for a two-hour conversation?
America must have the most rocket scientists per capita of any nation on earth:*
It's mindblowing': US meteorologists face death threats as hurricane conspiracies surge | Hurricane Milton | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/11/meteorologists-death-threats-hurricane-conspiracies-misinformation
*Which pretty much explains why tRump is going to be POTUS twice
It's mindblowing': US meteorologists face death threats as hurricane conspiracies surge | Hurricane Milton | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/11/meteorologists-death-threats-hurricane-conspiracies-misinformation
*Which pretty much explains why tRump is going to be POTUS twice
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Wall Street Journal: The Lightness of Being Kamala Harris
Even friendly interviews trip her up, as she fails to define herself apart from Biden and her party's left.
October 10, 2024
" 'For Kamala Harris, even friendly interviews are treacherous these days. This week she may have made the biggest mistake of her 81-day campaign in response to similar questions from TV host Stephen Colbert and "The View." Asked what she would do differently than President Biden, the Vice President said "there is not a thing that comes to mind."
"If Ms. Harris loses, that answer will go far to explaining why. Her mistake isn't merely that she hasn't distanced herself enough from Mr. Biden's unpopular record, though that is a problem. It's that she hasn't shown voters that she is her own woman. Her campaign of "vibes" and safe appearances suggests she will be, like Mr. Biden has been, a captive of her party and its unpopular policies...."
"After her ascension as nominee, the Vice President surrounded herself with David Plouffe and other Barack Obama advisers who stuffed her with vague, feel-good generalities. ..."
"The political problem here is as much about character as policy. Voters want a President who is strong enough to bear the burdens of the job, and that means standing up against powerful interests or countries that want to harm America. The Vice President has looked more like an empty political vessel [i.e. puppet] who will say or do whatever her advisers tell her to...."
"Ms. Harris and Democrats are betting that a majority of voters will never vote for Mr. Trump again, and they may be right. But he could win anyway if the remaining undecided voters conclude that Ms. Harris is merely a political cipher whose agenda is whatever Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren command."
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/kamala-harris-media-interviews-stephen-colbert-cbs-joe-biden-record-39c7daef?st=vbYrcL&fbclid=IwY2xjawF2O8RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHWDjCARuN9CSN1RLNAUQVYK1gHsS7aegJE8JTlghhlLvdNLvRMzNeFlSeA_aem_2-wijSBZLVd_vr2R8HWgnw
Even friendly interviews trip her up, as she fails to define herself apart from Biden and her party's left.
October 10, 2024
" 'For Kamala Harris, even friendly interviews are treacherous these days. This week she may have made the biggest mistake of her 81-day campaign in response to similar questions from TV host Stephen Colbert and "The View." Asked what she would do differently than President Biden, the Vice President said "there is not a thing that comes to mind."
"If Ms. Harris loses, that answer will go far to explaining why. Her mistake isn't merely that she hasn't distanced herself enough from Mr. Biden's unpopular record, though that is a problem. It's that she hasn't shown voters that she is her own woman. Her campaign of "vibes" and safe appearances suggests she will be, like Mr. Biden has been, a captive of her party and its unpopular policies...."
"After her ascension as nominee, the Vice President surrounded herself with David Plouffe and other Barack Obama advisers who stuffed her with vague, feel-good generalities. ..."
"The political problem here is as much about character as policy. Voters want a President who is strong enough to bear the burdens of the job, and that means standing up against powerful interests or countries that want to harm America. The Vice President has looked more like an empty political vessel [i.e. puppet] who will say or do whatever her advisers tell her to...."
"Ms. Harris and Democrats are betting that a majority of voters will never vote for Mr. Trump again, and they may be right. But he could win anyway if the remaining undecided voters conclude that Ms. Harris is merely a political cipher whose agenda is whatever Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren command."
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/kamala-harris-media-interviews-stephen-colbert-cbs-joe-biden-record-39c7daef?st=vbYrcL&fbclid=IwY2xjawF2O8RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHWDjCARuN9CSN1RLNAUQVYK1gHsS7aegJE8JTlghhlLvdNLvRMzNeFlSeA_aem_2-wijSBZLVd_vr2R8HWgnw
Was it Kamala's staff that was using cocaine in the White House and not Hunter?calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
The inability of some posters to differentiate between Trump supporter and being a right of center not Trump supporter is pretty profound. To wit: it is possible to believe Trump gets zero objectivity from the media and also not especially like Trump. Those are two separate concepts.calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
I posted at the time Biden was ousted I wished the D's would pick a generic (real) centrist from a red or purple state and save us all from the (IMO) horrible choice we have now. By real centrist I mean someone our Lefty friends on this board would howl over. The names I floated were Manchin and what's his name from Virginia. I predicted that D's would be beholden to identity politics, pick Harris and this election could stupidly go either way.
tequila4kapp said:The inability of some posters to differentiate between Trump supporter and being a right of center not Trump supporter is pretty profound. To wit: it is possible to believe Trump gets zero objectivity from the media and also not especially like Trump. Those are two separate concepts.calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
In left wing circles, these distinctions are meaningless. Either you're onboard with them or you're a MAGAT. It's sort of cultish.
tequila4kapp said:The inability of some posters to differentiate between Trump supporter and right of center not Trump supporter is pretty profound.calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
I can't recall such stark differences on significant issues.
- a vote for Harris is a vote for continuing war in Ukraine: a vote for Trump is for peace
- a vote for Harris is for continuing high inflation; a vote for Trump is a vote for low inflation
- a vote for Harris is for an open southern border, 10 Million more illegal immigrants; a vote for Trump seals the border
- a vote for Harris means even limited Amnesty turns us into a one-party nation forever; no pendulum corrections
- which may lead to disastrous internal consequences
It was a Drudge reporter unfortunatelybear2034 said:Was it Kamala's staff that was using cocaine in the White House and not Hunter?calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
That's not what Karine Jean-Pierre said.SBGold said:It was a Drudge reporter unfortunatelybear2034 said:Was it Kamala's staff that was using cocaine in the White House and not Hunter?calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
She's wrong againbear2034 said:That's not what Karine Jean-Pierre said.SBGold said:It was a Drudge reporter unfortunatelybear2034 said:Was it Kamala's staff that was using cocaine in the White House and not Hunter?calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
Has she ever been right?SBGold said:She's wrong againbear2034 said:That's not what Karine Jean-Pierre said.SBGold said:It was a Drudge reporter unfortunatelybear2034 said:Was it Kamala's staff that was using cocaine in the White House and not Hunter?calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
SBGold said:
why doesn't Agent Orange go on 60 Minutes?
The last time Trump was on 60 Minutes, Leslie Stahl denied that the Hunter Biden laptop Russian disinfo story was fake!
tequila4kapp said:The inability of some posters to differentiate between Trump supporter and being a right of center not Trump supporter is pretty profound. To wit: it is possible to believe Trump gets zero objectivity from the media and also not especially like Trump. Those are two separate concepts.calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
I posted at the time Biden was ousted I wished the D's would pick a generic (real) centrist from a red or purple state and save us all from the (IMO) horrible choice we have now. By real centrist I mean someone our Lefty friends on this board would howl over. The names I floated were Manchin and what's his name from Virginia. I predicted that D's would be beholden to identity politics, pick Harris and this election could stupidly go either way.
The MAGAts are saying Dems are now equivalent to the center right party AND that we have gone far left. It is a stupid time to be alive.
she's a lib Huckabee Sanders in that positionbear2034 said:Has she ever been right?SBGold said:She's wrong againbear2034 said:That's not what Karine Jean-Pierre said.SBGold said:It was a Drudge reporter unfortunatelybear2034 said:Was it Kamala's staff that was using cocaine in the White House and not Hunter?calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
dajo9 said:
The MAGAts are saying Dems are now equivalent to the center right party AND that we have gone far left. It is a stupid time to be alive.
— ForAmerica (@ForAmerica) October 10, 2024
Oh there's a hell of a lot more Repugs leaving the Trumplican party, we all know that. Hell the Democratic Convention was dominated by thembear2034 said:dajo9 said:
The MAGAts are saying Dems are now equivalent to the center right party AND that we have gone far left. It is a stupid time to be alive.— ForAmerica (@ForAmerica) October 10, 2024
bear2034 said:SBGold said:
why doesn't Agent Orange go on 60 Minutes?
The last time Trump was on 60 Minutes, Leslie Stahl denied that the Hunter Biden laptop Russian disinfo story was fake!
Legacy lying Media is just that. So President Trump is able to circumvent the Progressive non-thinking Alinsky-ite narrative engineers by using X / Twitter to be interviewed by Elon Musk, young influencers, and others.
This is why Hillary and others want to censor or drive Twitter out of business. They control television, news print, and even Fox News has been castrated by Alex Soros. Now Soros has bought 200 radio stations. On top of all this, Google, Facebook and YouTube are run by Progressive Billionaires just as interested in stifling Free Speech.
It's really all very sick, I never imagined we'd become a wealthy educated version of a Central American gestapo state.
Back when Hollywood loved Donald Trump.
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movielover said:
Decent points. In the real world, the discussion is "how do we grow the economy", and "how do we close the border". Depending upon your viewpoint, he either does very well, or excellent.
He does react when someone attacks his Father or himself, which gives the goons on MSM red meat.
But the same leader kept Russia out of Ukraine; kept terrorists humbled; got record NATO contributions; created peace talks w North Korea (after a bumpy start); created a new viewpoint which resulted in 5 Mideast peace deals; built over 400 miles of 30' tall Wall (a bi-partisan Congress blocked funding); confronted China w successful non-inflation tariffs; and increased chip production in Arizona.
Unfortunately, the Steal 3.0 will be incredibly tough to overcome. It was multilayered last time, and will be again.
Democrat Elon Musk says if Trump loses, we'll never have another open election. If Kamala Harris even gives 5% of illegal immigrants Amnesty, America turns into California.
The GOP and Dems have sold us out - Big Ag, Big Pharma, Amazon, hi tech, Globalist monopolies.
God forbid the rest of America turns into California.
- the weather's great, no hurricanes
- we're well off; my mediocre home is worth a small fortune
- we mostly all -- diverse people -- live in peace and harmony
- best public universities in the world
- low unemployment, thriving tech center
- natural wonders
- urban crime may be up, but is lower than most other urban areas... often a lot lower
- homeless come here to live in tents under freeways because it's still better than living in a cracker house in FL
- health: longest life-expectancy of any big state
- California girls... somebody once did a song about 'em: even acknowledging other areas' girls, ours came out on top
tequila4kapp said:The inability of some posters to differentiate between Trump supporter and being a right of center not Trump supporter is pretty profound. To wit: it is possible to believe Trump gets zero objectivity from the media and also not especially like Trump. Those are two separate concepts.calpoly said:
Do you ever get tired of licking tRumps a$$?
I posted at the time Biden was ousted I wished the D's would pick a generic (real) centrist from a red or purple state and save us all from the (IMO) horrible choice we have now. By real centrist I mean someone our Lefty friends on this board would howl over. The names I floated were Manchin and what's his name from Virginia. I predicted that D's would be beholden to identity politics, pick Harris and this election could stupidly go either way.
I didn't think there was any way they could get away with not picking Kamala. Black, female hand picked VP not getting promoted? They'd look like idiots, to put it mildly.
Tim Alberta gave the most succinct and astute explanation I've heard on Bill Maher's show last night regarding why people who perceive themselves to be moral and ethical people are All In on tRump regardless of the fact he is immoral, unethical and his soul smells like sulphur:
"A journalist and author told comedian Bill Maher on Friday night that "clear-eyed" evangelicals view former President Donald Trump as an "imperfect" protector from a "culture that has slipped away and a country they don't recognize."
……For folks inside the church who believe that the country is slipping away from them, that they no longer recognize the Christian America of their youth, and they believe that Donald Trump is an imperfect vessel for God's perfect will," said Alberta. "And they look at him and say, 'Well, the barbarians are at the gates, maybe we need a barbarian to protect us.'"
…..Alberta said it resembles a mercenary relationship, as Trump's "bad behavior almost reinforces their support," as a good Christian man wouldn't be as capable of protecting them as Trump. That dynamic allows the former president to have a license to say things that many disagree with."
*This makes it pretty clear that whenever you post a story about tRump's heinous conduct you are just preaching to the choir. tRump is the Republicans' Wagner Group, and if he has to burn down a couple of villages and hack off a couple of limbs to win, well, that's how war goes.
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/journalist-to-bill-maher-evangelicals-2669383385
*I would have at least some respect for Republicans if they would just admit this truth instead of deflecting legitimate criticism of tRump as unjust. I suppose they need to rationalize to avoid accepting the truth that the guy who pays the mercenary is responsible for his conduct. All of it.
"A journalist and author told comedian Bill Maher on Friday night that "clear-eyed" evangelicals view former President Donald Trump as an "imperfect" protector from a "culture that has slipped away and a country they don't recognize."
……For folks inside the church who believe that the country is slipping away from them, that they no longer recognize the Christian America of their youth, and they believe that Donald Trump is an imperfect vessel for God's perfect will," said Alberta. "And they look at him and say, 'Well, the barbarians are at the gates, maybe we need a barbarian to protect us.'"
…..Alberta said it resembles a mercenary relationship, as Trump's "bad behavior almost reinforces their support," as a good Christian man wouldn't be as capable of protecting them as Trump. That dynamic allows the former president to have a license to say things that many disagree with."
*This makes it pretty clear that whenever you post a story about tRump's heinous conduct you are just preaching to the choir. tRump is the Republicans' Wagner Group, and if he has to burn down a couple of villages and hack off a couple of limbs to win, well, that's how war goes.
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/journalist-to-bill-maher-evangelicals-2669383385
*I would have at least some respect for Republicans if they would just admit this truth instead of deflecting legitimate criticism of tRump as unjust. I suppose they need to rationalize to avoid accepting the truth that the guy who pays the mercenary is responsible for his conduct. All of it.
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Trump Bible Made in China.
In China We Trust!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/11/trump-bibles-made-in-china/75625791007/
In China We Trust!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/11/trump-bibles-made-in-china/75625791007/
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
So Alberta describes Trump as a 'barbarian', who ironically never went to war, said no to war four times with Iran (Colonel Douglass McGregor), and signed five Mideast peace deals.
Alberta himself lives in uber affluent Falls Church, Virginia, and writes for liberal rags like The Atlantic.
In this particular case, he appears to be assuaging his guilt over being reprimanded at church for his anti-Trump blathering.
Words are important. Dr. Victor Davis Hanson of Stanford has more accurately described some of Trump's behavior as vulgarian.
Call it leadership or bluntness, President Trump insured Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine, and threatened the Taliban leader at Camp David to assure that not a single American soldier would die in Afghanistan in 18 months. And after a blustery start, President Trump held peace talks with North Korea.
A tough street-smart leader who kept killers in check. I don't call that person a barbarian.
Alberta sounds like a coddled liberal lightweight.
Alberta himself lives in uber affluent Falls Church, Virginia, and writes for liberal rags like The Atlantic.
In this particular case, he appears to be assuaging his guilt over being reprimanded at church for his anti-Trump blathering.
Words are important. Dr. Victor Davis Hanson of Stanford has more accurately described some of Trump's behavior as vulgarian.
Call it leadership or bluntness, President Trump insured Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine, and threatened the Taliban leader at Camp David to assure that not a single American soldier would die in Afghanistan in 18 months. And after a blustery start, President Trump held peace talks with North Korea.
A tough street-smart leader who kept killers in check. I don't call that person a barbarian.
Alberta sounds like a coddled liberal lightweight.
bearister said:
Tim Alberta gave the most succinct and astute explanation I've heard on Bill Maher's show last night regarding why people who perceive themselves to be moral and ethical people are All In on tRump regardless of the fact he is immoral, unethical and his soul smells like sulphur:
"A journalist and author told comedian Bill Maher on Friday night that "clear-eyed" evangelicals view former President Donald Trump as an "imperfect" protector from a "culture that has slipped away and a country they don't recognize."
……For folks inside the church who believe that the country is slipping away from them, that they no longer recognize the Christian America of their youth, and they believe that Donald Trump is an imperfect vessel for God's perfect will," said Alberta. "And they look at him and say, 'Well, the barbarians are at the gates, maybe we need a barbarian to protect us.'"
…..Alberta said it resembles a mercenary relationship, as Trump's "bad behavior almost reinforces their support," as a good Christian man wouldn't be as capable of protecting them as Trump. That dynamic allows the former president to have a license to say things that many disagree with."
*This makes it pretty clear that whenever you post a story about tRump's heinous conduct you are just preaching to the choir. tRump is the Republicans' Wagner Group, and if he has to burn down a couple of villages and hack off a couple of limbs to win, well, that's how war goes.
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/journalist-to-bill-maher-evangelicals-2669383385
*I would have at least some respect for Republicans if they would just admit this truth instead of deflecting legitimate criticism of tRump as unjust. I suppose they need to rationalize to avoid accepting the truth that the guy who pays the mercenary is responsible for his conduct. All of it.
This is a good explanation. Most of my sane republican friends feel similar to this. The not so sane ones, whom I tolerate because I hate confrontation, think Trump is some of of misunderstood leader. And they tell me don't vote because of personality vote for results. I think they have a screw loose.
I'm still waiting to be referred to a book or article not written by a tRump ghost writer or other captive that discusses what a solid human being he is and one worth trusting.
*tRump will be more hawkish with respect to Israel's warring actions, which are mission creaping from self defense to adventurism, than any Harris Administration. Bibi and every other Right Winger in Israel backs him.
The Ukraine? No towers going up there, only in Moscow, thus Putin can have the former Eastern Bloc.
*tRump will be more hawkish with respect to Israel's warring actions, which are mission creaping from self defense to adventurism, than any Harris Administration. Bibi and every other Right Winger in Israel backs him.
The Ukraine? No towers going up there, only in Moscow, thus Putin can have the former Eastern Bloc.
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NEW: Elderly man says he hopes somebody k*lls Trump because Trump is going to "sellout" to Putin.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 12, 2024
This is what media programming does to people.
The incident unfolded at a Turning Point Action Super Chase in Georgia and was shared by @Courtcothran.
"I hope to h*ll somebody… pic.twitter.com/ieG3ZJadAt
Is this bearister's clone in Georgia?
bear2034 said:NEW: Elderly man says he hopes somebody k*lls Trump because Trump is going to "sellout" to Putin.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 12, 2024
This is what media programming does to people.
The incident unfolded at a Turning Point Action Super Chase in Georgia and was shared by @Courtcothran.
"I hope to h*ll somebody… pic.twitter.com/ieG3ZJadAt
Is this bearister's clone in Georgia?
Hard to imagine someone accused of being so sinister waiting until a second term to pull off 'the big sellout'.
Hard to imagine Kamala doing much of anything.
Not voting for either. They aren't worthy of my vote. They are an embarrassment for our country.
Gavin Newsom or Josh Shapiro in 2028?
bear2034 said:
Gavin Newsom or Josh Shapiro in 2028?
Don't know anything about Shapiro. Newsom scares me. He's horrible but a smart, slimy politician. I hope the rest of the country says, "We don't want what CA has".
I have never posted any comment in any Internet forum wishing tRump gets assassinated. Life in prison, sure, but I don't want hm murdered. If he dropped dead because of his lifetime lack of personal discipline would I be sad? No. Would I post it in the Obituaries thread. Why?
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