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Opinion | A Plan to Get America Back to Work - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html?referringSource=articleShare


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Strong article. Like Cal. And Cal Strong. And Wife Strong. And Baby Strong.
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It doesn't seem to have a paywall. I was able to read it.
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bearister said:

Did the dealership throw in the flamethrower in the trunk as a perk?
pale shades of the flame-thrower scene in OnceUponATimeInHollywood.
> "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" stunt coordinator Robert Alonzo says DiCaprio was a little freaked out about using the flamethrower himself and burning up actors on set. Alonzo said he "has a lot of experience with fire-burning" after working as a stunt coordinator for 23 years, so he tried to ease DiCaprio's fears by setting himself ablaze first. Alonzo wanted to show DiCaprio that no one would be harmed by the flamethrower.
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If the Pudd'in Man gets it too then we know a just God exists.
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bearister said:

Big C said:


They could've driven in their Tesla, but it's about a thousand miles, so that would be a major inconvenience for them. (I know. Don't say anything.) Happy 40th birthday!


Did the dealership throw in the flamethrower in the trunk as a perk?




They are going to need it to kill the zombies!
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bearister said:

Opinion | A Plan to Get America Back to Work - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html?referringSource=articleShare


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It wanted me to sign in to read it.
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bearister said:

Big C said:


They could've driven in their Tesla, but it's about a thousand miles, so that would be a major inconvenience for them. (I know. Don't say anything.) Happy 40th birthday!


Did the dealership throw in the flamethrower in the trunk as a perk?



It sounds crazy, I know. But much of the country is living in a different reality than most of us. Still. Now, I'm no epidemiologist, but I think the coronavirus can probably cross different realities like they were nothing. We shall see.
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The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
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What is coronavirus and what is the mortality rate?


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/22/what-is-coronavirus-and-what-is-the-mortality-rate?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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"Scientists who have fought pandemics describe difficult measures needed to defend the United States against a fast-moving pathogen."

Good read from NYT science writer, Donald McNeil:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-restrictions-us.html
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bearister said:

Big C said:


They could've driven in their Tesla, but it's about a thousand miles, so that would be a major inconvenience for them. (I know. Don't say anything.) Happy 40th birthday!


Did the dealership throw in the flamethrower in the trunk as a perk?




Didn't you know it comes standard? It's also called the battery
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The coronavirus economy will devastate those who can least afford it - Axios


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-economy-layoffs-children-families-bad-d588cc93-ff26-4031-8be8-5654cce05a15.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top
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As the economy falters, Trump loses patience with doctors' orders on coronavirus - Axios


https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-economy-recession-donald-trump-0b5ab109-1a5e-4397-b54b-5f17d802c029.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top
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bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
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MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
Hah, I was thinking about that. The anti-vaxxers are going to be in a really tough spot once they create one for coronavirus.
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My wife came up with this reflection this morning:

The outcome of the decision regarding when to flip the switch on letting business proceed again will probably decide the 2020 Election.
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How much toilet paper do you need? Well, now there is a website for that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52000039
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OdontoBear66 said:

Big C said:

Okay, vaccine probably cannot be fast-tracked.

Now, who's the ventilator supply expert around here?
Not here, but isn't GM tooling up to do same? We've gotta have them for the crisis, but I keep wondering what we are going to do with a zillion ventilators after the crisis---no small item are they like test kits? Guess we need to get over our current dilemma and worry about such things later. Insight from China and South Korea would be helpful.

We could get a million ventilators for the price of a couple of B2 bombers, which inflict far greater damage on the US economy than on a potential enemy state. The marginal cost of the 100,000th ventilator has got be in the very low 4 figures.
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MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.

FYI - the flu vaccine increases the risk of contracting coronavirus by 36%, due to vaccine derived virus interference, according to a recent government study.

Quote:

Examining non-influenza viruses specifically, the odds of both coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in vaccinated individuals were significantly higher when compared to unvaccinated individuals (OR?=?1.36 and 1.51, respectively) (Table 5).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31607599



One reason the Bergamo/northern Italy region might have been particularly hard hit with covid19 is that they have implemented extensive flu vaccination programs in that region.
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Cal88 said:

OdontoBear66 said:

Big C said:

Okay, vaccine probably cannot be fast-tracked.

Now, who's the ventilator supply expert around here?
Not here, but isn't GM tooling up to do same? We've gotta have them for the crisis, but I keep wondering what we are going to do with a zillion ventilators after the crisis---no small item are they like test kits? Guess we need to get over our current dilemma and worry about such things later. Insight from China and South Korea would be helpful.

We could get a million ventilators for the price of a couple of B2 bombers, which inflict far greater damage on the US economy than on a potential enemy state. The marginal cost of the 100,000th ventilator has got be in the very low 4 figures.
That would be sweet.
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sycasey said:

MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
Hah, I was thinking about that. The anti-vaxxers are going to be in a really tough spot once they create one for coronavirus.
I don't know what's really in the minds of anti-vaxxers, but I thought their concern was specifically about increasing risks to children of developing autism. Given that little kids aren't hit hard by CV, I would think the anti-vaxxers would simply choose not to vaccinate their little kids. Seems like a no-brainer for them considering there are more serious diseases for kids that they don't vaccinate against.

If there are anti-vaxxers who don't vaccinate themselves as adults, then yeah I guess I that's a different scenarios, but I don't think this is much different than normal vaccines.
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Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
Hah, I was thinking about that. The anti-vaxxers are going to be in a really tough spot once they create one for coronavirus.
I don't know what's really in the minds of anti-vaxxers, but I thought their concern was specifically about increasing risks to children of developing autism. Given that little kids aren't hit hard by CV, I would think the anti-vaxxers would simply choose not to vaccinate their little kids. Seems like a no-brainer for them considering there are more serious diseases for kids that they don't vaccinate against.

If there are anti-vaxxers who don't vaccinate themselves as adults, then yeah I guess I that's a different scenarios, but I don't think this is much different than normal vaccines.
I guess, but then kids who don't get vaccinated grow up to become people who can carry the virus.
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I see homeowners still listing their owner-occupied properties for both private showings and open houses.

The NAR should force-freeze these listings, but hey to Realtors there's never a bad time to buy or sell right
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sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
Hah, I was thinking about that. The anti-vaxxers are going to be in a really tough spot once they create one for coronavirus.
I don't know what's really in the minds of anti-vaxxers, but I thought their concern was specifically about increasing risks to children of developing autism. Given that little kids aren't hit hard by CV, I would think the anti-vaxxers would simply choose not to vaccinate their little kids. Seems like a no-brainer for them considering there are more serious diseases for kids that they don't vaccinate against.

If there are anti-vaxxers who don't vaccinate themselves as adults, then yeah I guess I that's a different scenarios, but I don't think this is much different than normal vaccines.
I guess, but then kids who don't get vaccinated grow up to become people who can carry the virus.
Not a doctor and not an epidemiologist, but my understanding is that the vaccines we are talking about might give you a year or so of immunity.
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sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
Hah, I was thinking about that. The anti-vaxxers are going to be in a really tough spot once they create one for coronavirus.
I don't know what's really in the minds of anti-vaxxers, but I thought their concern was specifically about increasing risks to children of developing autism. Given that little kids aren't hit hard by CV, I would think the anti-vaxxers would simply choose not to vaccinate their little kids. Seems like a no-brainer for them considering there are more serious diseases for kids that they don't vaccinate against.

If there are anti-vaxxers who don't vaccinate themselves as adults, then yeah I guess I that's a different scenarios, but I don't think this is much different than normal vaccines.
I guess, but then kids who don't get vaccinated grow up to become people who can carry the virus.
Wait until I get to be President David Romer and I pass my legislation saying that unvaccinated people won't be eligible for Social Security, Medicare, and government bailouts. They'll have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
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Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
Hah, I was thinking about that. The anti-vaxxers are going to be in a really tough spot once they create one for coronavirus.
I don't know what's really in the minds of anti-vaxxers, but I thought their concern was specifically about increasing risks to children of developing autism. Given that little kids aren't hit hard by CV, I would think the anti-vaxxers would simply choose not to vaccinate their little kids. Seems like a no-brainer for them considering there are more serious diseases for kids that they don't vaccinate against.

If there are anti-vaxxers who don't vaccinate themselves as adults, then yeah I guess I that's a different scenarios, but I don't think this is much different than normal vaccines.
I guess, but then kids who don't get vaccinated grow up to become people who can carry the virus.
Not a doctor and not an epidemiologist, but my understanding is that the vaccines we are talking about might give you a year or so of immunity.
Hmm, true, there's a lot we don't know about this disease.
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Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

MSaviolives said:

bearister said:

The cops should check the ID of all people deliberately flaunting the rules and send the names to the CDC database. When those people show up to a hospital for treatment, cross check name with said CDC file of violators and......





*Clem looks like he took an unopened Fosters beer can to the face before that interview....which probably increased his IQ.
And when a vaccine is developed in quantities sufficient to start vaccinating the community, all anti-vaxxers should be placed at the back of the line.
Hah, I was thinking about that. The anti-vaxxers are going to be in a really tough spot once they create one for coronavirus.
I don't know what's really in the minds of anti-vaxxers, but I thought their concern was specifically about increasing risks to children of developing autism. Given that little kids aren't hit hard by CV, I would think the anti-vaxxers would simply choose not to vaccinate their little kids. Seems like a no-brainer for them considering there are more serious diseases for kids that they don't vaccinate against.

If there are anti-vaxxers who don't vaccinate themselves as adults, then yeah I guess I that's a different scenarios, but I don't think this is much different than normal vaccines.
I guess, but then kids who don't get vaccinated grow up to become people who can carry the virus.
Not a doctor and not an epidemiologist, but my understanding is that the vaccines we are talking about might give you a year or so of immunity.
Not unlike flu vaccines
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GBear4Life said:

I see homeowners still listing their owner-occupied properties for both private showings and open houses.

The NAR should force-freeze these listings, but hey to Realtors there's never a bad time to buy or sell right

It's not really a problem for the owners as long as they are willing to stay away from the house for a couple of days since the last showing and/or pay to have it cleaned between showings.
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dimitrig said:

GBear4Life said:

I see homeowners still listing their owner-occupied properties for both private showings and open houses.

The NAR should force-freeze these listings, but hey to Realtors there's never a bad time to buy or sell right

It's not really a problem for the owners as long as they are willing to stay away from the house for a couple of days since the last showing and/or pay to have it cleaned between showings.

I'm talking about owner occupied listings. They still live there. Who is going to pay to clean it after every showing?
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GBear4Life said:

dimitrig said:

GBear4Life said:

I see homeowners still listing their owner-occupied properties for both private showings and open houses.

The NAR should force-freeze these listings, but hey to Realtors there's never a bad time to buy or sell right

It's not really a problem for the owners as long as they are willing to stay away from the house for a couple of days since the last showing and/or pay to have it cleaned between showings.

I'm talking about owner occupied listings. They still live there. Who is going to pay to clean it after every showing?

I know you are. I am just talking about how I would handle it. Schedule a showing once per week and hire a cleaning service after each instead of letting anyone come whenever.
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dimitrig said:

GBear4Life said:

dimitrig said:

GBear4Life said:

I see homeowners still listing their owner-occupied properties for both private showings and open houses.

The NAR should force-freeze these listings, but hey to Realtors there's never a bad time to buy or sell right

It's not really a problem for the owners as long as they are willing to stay away from the house for a couple of days since the last showing and/or pay to have it cleaned between showings.

I'm talking about owner occupied listings. They still live there. Who is going to pay to clean it after every showing?

I know you are. I am just talking about how I would handle it. Schedule a showing once per week and hire a cleaning service after each instead of letting anyone come whenever.
Also, I can see the sense of urgency of a seller wanting to sell (for fear their home value will plummet as time goes on), but I don't see the urgency of buyers.
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