Illegal Immigration

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movielover said:

The United Nations is using at least $1.6 Billion this year and 240 NGOs to fund our border invasion.

The Red Cross is also allegedly involved.


There you go again, leaning on the allegedly crutch to weasel out of your stances when called on it.
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Allegedly = I didn't read the story or details, but the info was relayed to me by someone who is usually correct.

Tucker Carlos had a long form interview with Bret Weinstein, who traveled to the Darien Gap.

He covers the UN role, illegal and well-funded Chinese illegal immigrants, environmental damage, and more.

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As details emerge on the 370 page Senate immigration deal, folks on the left should understand the way this was managed and the end result the Republican leadership agreed to is a massive reason a lot of people support Trump (but generally not the Republican party).
* Secret deal
* Lied to its membership about the deal
* The deal is rightly characterized by a Dem as "the border never closes"

Etc, etc, etc.

Imagine if Schumer secretly agreed to negotiate an Abortion bill, kept his conference in the dark about it for months then agreed to a bill which 100% outlawed abortion, criminalized the act for women and doctors, shut down Planned Parenthood, etc.

This is pure insanity on Republican leadership. Congratulations, Dem's, stupid R leadership prioritized corporation donations over actual voters. Your odds in the next election just increased by magnitudes.
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Once again,

REPUBLICANS REJECT BORDER LEGISLATION



Just like with Obama, they've shown themselves to be more interested in maintaining problematic wedge issues than the type of country that works well.
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Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"
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tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"



Thanks for posting. I had heard this too but was too lazy and didn't feel like a BI political **** show discussion. I guess this post will inspire retorts.
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tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?
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dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
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Did all the other BI conservative morons elect you the defender? It's the only possible explanation for why you continually stand up for your fellow hypocrites.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

So we have maybe 8 million trying to get in each year. The UN, funded with US printed dollars, is on the ground all along the route in Central America and Mexico providing guidance, food, shelter, medical aide and transportation. How many more will be en route next year? But only 2 million will be allowed in. Sounds like a humanitarian crisis in the making. As Obama said, "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up."

Btw, how did they come up with the 2 million number? Even if they were able to restrict the flow to that number, how is that solving the problem?
dajo9
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oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
In this scenario, the border can be shut down after 28,007 migrants arrive. 4001 x 7 = 28,007

"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span"
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dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
In this scenario, the border can be shut down after 28,007 migrants arrive. 4001 x 7 = 28,007

"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span"


That works better than averaging it out over a year. Of course there needs to be actual migrant encounters. How long can we restrict asylum for after at least 27,001 come in?
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AunBear89 said:

Did all the other BI conservative morons elect you the defender? It's the only possible explanation for why you continually stand up for your fellow hypocrites.


I wasn't elected defender. I don't think you were elected attacker either. Please try to settle down and have a great day. It is Monday, the beginning of the week. I hope the rain isn't a trigger for you. Reach out for help if you need it. Cheers.
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oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
In this scenario, the border can be shut down after 28,007 migrants arrive. 4001 x 7 = 28,007

"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span"


That works better than averaging it out over a year. Of course there needs to be actual migrant encounters. How long can we restrict asylum for after at least 27,001 come in?
Before we move on to the next deflection, do we all agree the previous 2M estimate was off by about 1.97M?
oski003
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dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
In this scenario, the border can be shut down after 28,007 migrants arrive. 4001 x 7 = 28,007

"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span"


That works better than averaging it out over a year. Of course there needs to be actual migrant encounters. How long can we restrict asylum for after at least 27,001 come in?
Before we move on to the next deflection, do we all agree the previous 2M estimate was off by about 1.97M?


Well, the previous poster said 4,000 per day is the threshold! That is 1.5 million per year. However, the truth is that the optional authority to restrict asylum is triggered after 7 days of averaging 4,000+ per day. How much and how long can asylum be restricted for at that point in time?

Fyi, technically, we could have 28,000 encountered illegal immigrants every 7 days and still never invoke the optional right to restrict asylum. That is just under 1.5 million.
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oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
In this scenario, the border can be shut down after 28,007 migrants arrive. 4001 x 7 = 28,007

"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span"


That works better than averaging it out over a year. Of course there needs to be actual migrant encounters. How long can we restrict asylum for after at least 27,001 come in?
Before we move on to the next deflection, do we all agree the previous 2M estimate was off by about 1.97M?


Well, the previous poster said 4,000 per day is the threshold! That is 1.5 million per year. However, the truth is that the optional authority to restrict asylum is triggered after 7 days of averaging 4,000+ per day. How much and how long can asylum be restricted for at that point in time?

Fyi, technically, we could have 28,000 encountered illegal immigrants every 7 days and still never invoke the optional right to restrict asylum. That is just under 1.5 million.
Ok, so the previous argument was way off base. Agreed.

Technically we could have 28,000 encounters every 7 days but in the real world, Biden has said if Republicans pass the legislation today, he will close the border today.
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dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
In this scenario, the border can be shut down after 28,007 migrants arrive. 4001 x 7 = 28,007

"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span"


That works better than averaging it out over a year. Of course there needs to be actual migrant encounters. How long can we restrict asylum for after at least 27,001 come in?
Before we move on to the next deflection, do we all agree the previous 2M estimate was off by about 1.97M?


Well, the previous poster said 4,000 per day is the threshold! That is 1.5 million per year. However, the truth is that the optional authority to restrict asylum is triggered after 7 days of averaging 4,000+ per day. How much and how long can asylum be restricted for at that point in time?

Fyi, technically, we could have 28,000 encountered illegal immigrants every 7 days and still never invoke the optional right to restrict asylum. That is just under 1.5 million.
Ok, so the previous argument was way off base. Agreed.

Technically we could have 28,000 encounters every 7 days but in the real world, Biden has said if Republicans pass the legislation today, he will close the border today.
Assuming that is all there is to it, let's pass it then.
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oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Read reports of the bill's content. This is not merely a wedge issue. It is a giveaway by Corporatist Republicans.

One example (from CNN):
"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If that metric is reached, the Homeland Security secretary could decide to largely bar migrants from seeking asylum if they crossed the border unlawfully.
If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS is required to use the authority. If encounters reach 8,500 in one day, the department is required to trigger the authority. But the federal government is limited in how long it can use the authority.
In the first year, the government can use it for 270 days, then 225 calendar days in the second year, and 180 days in the third year. The authority sunsets after three years."

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

There is a reason Chris Murphy characterized the bill as "the border never closes"

I don't understand these sentences. Can you show the math?


4001 x 365 is just under 1.5m. perhaps he is rounding to 2m.
In this scenario, the border can be shut down after 28,007 migrants arrive. 4001 x 7 = 28,007

"New emergency authority to restrict border crossings if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span"


That works better than averaging it out over a year. Of course there needs to be actual migrant encounters. How long can we restrict asylum for after at least 27,001 come in?
Before we move on to the next deflection, do we all agree the previous 2M estimate was off by about 1.97M?


Well, the previous poster said 4,000 per day is the threshold! That is 1.5 million per year. However, the truth is that the optional authority to restrict asylum is triggered after 7 days of averaging 4,000+ per day. How much and how long can asylum be restricted for at that point in time?

Fyi, technically, we could have 28,000 encountered illegal immigrants every 7 days and still never invoke the optional right to restrict asylum. That is just under 1.5 million.
Ok, so the previous argument was way off base. Agreed.

Technically we could have 28,000 encounters every 7 days but in the real world, Biden has said if Republicans pass the legislation today, he will close the border today.
Assuming that is all there is to it, let's pass it then.
Yes, let's pass it. Republicans should pass the bill. Agreed.
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/illegal-immigrants-in-new-york-to-get-pre-paid-debit-cards-in-53-million-program-5579996?src_src=copyreflink&src_cmp=dk2i18cskle

~$1,000 a month for a "family" of four, This is just for food and baby supplies and only covers a small percentage of the migrants being delivered to the city. Cards delivered to the Roosevelt hotel. This program will "save" the city millions.
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Zippergate said:

So...2M illegal crossings are allowed each year before optional emergency powers to restrict asylum claims starts. Some 3M illegal crossings can occur before the asylum claim restriction becomes mandatory. But even then, that restriction only exists for 3 years.

So we have maybe 8 million trying to get in each year. The UN, funded with US printed dollars, is on the ground all along the route in Central America and Mexico providing guidance, food, shelter, medical aide and transportation. How many more will be en route next year? But only 2 million will be allowed in. Sounds like a humanitarian crisis in the making. As Obama said, "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up."

Btw, how did they come up with the 2 million number? Even if they were able to restrict the flow to that number, how is that solving the problem?


Why do you think he F it up?

Coordinated UN $$$, Red Cross $$$, 240 NGOs spreading $1.6 Billion just this year... sounds like THE PLAN.

Wall Street Globalists want more $8 an hour labor for the 'service economy', Democrats want more illegal Democrats, and the Progressives have been railing against white Americans for 20 years.

One of the first moves Gavin Newsom took as Governor was to go to Central America and allegedly encourage more illegal immigration.
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Remember: never let a crisis go to waste. Hence the $60 Billion in Ukraine graft tied to the bill.

America First Legal did a great job hitting on the top-line issues created by this new bill. This supplemental "border security" bill makes things worse. The bill codifies into law the loopholes currently being used to increase the number of illegal aliens.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1754315351855100084.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

#2 "as UAC remain a gaping loophole, and we have seen the largest child smuggling operation in history during the Biden Administration. "

UAC = minor

And the Administration can opt out at any time, or suspend the new authority. So it's all worthless.

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movielover said:

Remember: never let a crisis go to waste. Hence the $60 Billion in Ukraine graft tied to the bill.

America First Legal did a great job hitting on the top-line issues created by this new bill. This supplemental "border security" bill makes things worse. The bill codifies into law the loopholes currently being used to increase the number of illegal aliens.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1754315351855100084.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

#2 "as UAC remain a gaping loophole, and we have seen the largest child smuggling operation in history during the Biden Administration. "

UAC = minor

And the Administration can opt out at any time, or suspend the new authority. So it's all worthless.


Biden fixes the border...and Ukraine!!...all in one masterstroke. How can the Republicans possibly not vote for this?!?
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It gets worse. They'll put legal matters into their most liberal jurisdiction.

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Jack Poso @JackPosobiec

Eagle Pass border crossings drop from thousands per day [3K - 4K] to 3 after Texas occupies park

https://thepostmillennial.com/eagle-pass-border-crossings-drop-from-thousands-per-day-to-3-after-texas-occupies-park?utm_campaign=64483
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Hey, RWNJ lovebirds, get a room.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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Care to explain what happens when 8 million migrants show up at the border and the Biden plan allows for 1.5 million (2 million?)?
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Zippergate said:

Care to explain what happens when 8 million migrants show up at the border and the Biden plan allows for 1.5 million (2 million?)?



We don't know the details, but, if they pass the bill, they can temporarily reject asylum applications when more than 21,000 are knowingly let in in a 7 day period. I would prefer a better border bill, but this is better than the current state of affairs. Unfortunately, because some Republicans and seemingly all Democrats won't pass the stricter Republican bill, they should pass this one. They definitely shouldn't fight it just to smite Biden.
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Remember when They attacked Trump's $5 billion border wall for being too expensive? And then tore down the parts that had already been built? And funded the UN which funds the caravans? And passed 60+ executive orders to facilitate illegal migrants?

And now they give us a $118 billion "border bill" that only has $20 billion for the border and still allows millions in. What part of "illegal" immigration do we not understand? Or are we to pretend that these millions are legitimate POLITICAL asylum seekers?

"The overall aid package includes $14 billion in assistance for Israel, $60 billion for Ukraine and $4.83 billion to Indo-Pacific nations. It also has $9.2 billion in humanitarian aid for civilians in Gaza, the West Bank, Ukraine and other nations, as well as $20 billion in U.S. border funds."


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oski003 said:

Zippergate said:

Care to explain what happens when 8 million migrants show up at the border and the Biden plan allows for 1.5 million (2 million?)?



We don't know the details, but, if they pass the bill, they can temporarily reject asylum applications when more than 21,000 are knowingly let in in a 7 day period. I would prefer a better border bill, but this is better than the current state of affairs. Unfortunately, because some Republicans and seemingly all Democrats won't pass the stricter Republican bill, they should pass this one. They definitely shouldn't fight it just to smite Biden.


Oski003 is right. This is a good, bipartisan immigration bill.
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dajo9 said:

oski003 said:

Zippergate said:

Care to explain what happens when 8 million migrants show up at the border and the Biden plan allows for 1.5 million (2 million?)?



We don't know the details, but, if they pass the bill, they can temporarily reject asylum applications when more than 21,000 are knowingly let in in a 7 day period. I would prefer a better border bill, but this is better than the current state of affairs. Unfortunately, because some Republicans and seemingly all Democrats won't pass the stricter Republican bill, they should pass this one. They definitely shouldn't fight it just to smite Biden.


Oski003 is right. This is a good, bipartisan immigration bill.


Really? It's so 'good', one author (Lankford) and McConnell may vote against it. Politico.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/02/05/congress/deal-nears-collapse-00139779
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Again reminding us of what President Trump was fighting - the Globalist UniParty.



 
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