Trump is running for president again

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9:47a, 5/30/24
1100 surveyed.
Trump is going to lose votes if he is found guilty: 16%
Trump is going to lose votes if he is found not guilty: 9%. Huh? You're not going to vote for him if he's not guilty?This poll doesn't make much sense to me. However, if he loses 10% of votes, that's a big OUCH.

Well, chew it up, make better sense of it that I did here: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/guilty-or-not-guilty-trump-verdict-wont-sway-most-voters-poll-shows




Fox analysis of the poll says: This is baked in and makes no difference.
-Uh, I'd say 10% is massive.
Fox wants to make it nothing, and instead move on to how insignificant this trial is. Instead, inflation, border, blah blah blah. Inflation is at 3.4% folks, trending down. This is below historical averages and near the Fed Target of 2%. What are you complaining about?
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In reply to concordtom • 9:59a, 5/30/24
concordtom said:
Fox analysis of the poll says: This is baked in and makes no difference.
-Uh, I'd say 10% is massive.
In a close race, any amount of slippage with voters could be the difference.
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12:23p, 5/31/24

A million for each charge. 30% of the donations were from new donors.
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In reply to bear2034 • 12:31p, 5/31/24
I'm afraid that is an indictment of the intellectual capacity and lack of moral fiber of the American electorate more than anything else.

I was wrong about tRump getting a mistrial so maybe my prediction that he will win the election will also be wrong, but if he does win, I will bank my tax cut, and snicker from the sidelines as he rolls back the environmental protections that protect the National Parks, open spaces, animals, air and water, especially in the Red States, and sends those 2000 lbs bombs to Bibi to secure his piece of Jarvanka's luxury resort on the shores of the Mediterranean in Gaza.
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In reply to bearister • 12:37p, 5/31/24
Trump will beat Biden in the polls but during election day, week, month, anything can happen. If Biden wins, he can continually rebuild his $300 million Biden Pier that Hamas doesn't seem to appreciate.
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In reply to bear2034 • 1:48p, 5/31/24
…to think, the party that ran Al Franken out of the Senate for a sexist vulgar photo is now the party that the Republicans feel weaponized the judicial system to wrongly convict tRump and the party the Republicans fear will rig the 2024 Election. It makes one tingle in the dirty bits.

*…and the party Tucker Carlson suggests may whack tRump before the election.
THE DEMS ARE FINALLY BALLERS!
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In reply to bearister • 1:53p, 5/31/24
bearister said:
I'm afraid that is an indictment of the intellectual capacity and lack of moral fiber of the American electorate more than anything else.

I was wrong about tRump getting a mistrial so maybe my prediction that he will win the election will also be wrong, but if he does win, I will bank my tax cut, and snicker from the sidelines as he rolls back the environmental protections that protect the National Parks, open spaces, animals, air and water, especially in the Red States, and sends those 2000 lbs bombs to Bibi to secure his piece of Jarvanka's luxury resort on the shores of the Mediterranean in Gaza.


Yeah, I suspect I'll end up meaningfully wealthier if Trump wins.
But I'll trade it in a nanosecond.
You don't skip out on the chance to eliminate Hitler when you have the chance!!
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In reply to bearister • 1:59p, 5/31/24
bearister said:
…to think, the party that ran Al Franken out of the Senate for a sexist vulgar photo is now the party that the Republicans feel weaponized the judicial system to wrongly convict tRump and the party the Republicans fear will rig the 2024 Election. It makes one tingle in the dirty bits.

*…and the party Tucker Carlson suggests may whack tRump before the election.
THE DEMS ARE FINALLY BALLERS!

Based on their recent track record, I don't think the Republicans will do anything.
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In reply to bearister • 2:01p, 5/31/24
bearister

*…and the party Tucker Carlson suggests may whack tRump before the election.
[b said:
THE DEMS ARE FINALLY BALLERS!




Staaaarrrt
Whaaacking!!!
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In reply to bearister • 5:40p, 5/31/24
bearister said:
THE DEMS ARE FINALLY BALLERS!
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6:44p, 6/1/24
https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/donald-trump-news-2024-trial-verdict-apprentice.html

Apprentice worker was obligated to a Silence agreement for 20 years and if he told anything behind the scenes he'd owe $5M.

It expired this year, and now he's telling about what a racist dope Trump was.
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4:51p, 6/3/24
When it comes to the abortion issue, Trump says he's for States Rights.

When it comes to the NY State Court that convicted Trump for breaking its laws, Trump wants the federal Supreme Court to overturn.

I wonder if MAGAts recognize the HYPOCRISY.
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In reply to concordtom • 5:27p, 6/3/24
concordtom said:
When it comes to the abortion issue, Trump says he's for States Rights.

When it comes to the NY State Court that convicted Trump for breaking its laws, Trump wants the federal Supreme Court to overturn.

I wonder if MAGAts recognize the HYPOCRISY.


There is no hypocrisy here.

The Sixth Amendment guarantees the rights of criminal defendants, including the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to a lawyer, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.

I can't seem to find the amendment that grants the right to an abortion. It just isn't there.
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In reply to oski003 • 6:07p, 6/3/24
oski003, where did you stay in Manhattan for well under $200? Was there a special rate? What was going on with covid at the time?
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:12p, 6/3/24
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oski003, where did you stay in Manhattan for well under $200? Was there a special rate? What was going on with covid at the time?


It was 2009. Might have been the Fitzpatrick, or something like that. It was under $200. There were plenty of 2.5 stars for low $100s.
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8:17p, 6/3/24
Why is a group of billionaires working to re-elect Trump?


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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In reply to oski003 • 8:58p, 6/3/24
oski003 said:
concordtom said:
When it comes to the abortion issue, Trump says he's for States Rights.

When it comes to the NY State Court that convicted Trump for breaking its laws, Trump wants the federal Supreme Court to overturn.

I wonder if MAGAts recognize the HYPOCRISY.


There is no hypocrisy here.

The Sixth Amendment guarantees the rights of criminal defendants, including the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to a lawyer, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.


He got that.
Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.
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In reply to dajo9 • 9:01p, 6/3/24
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oski003, where did you stay in Manhattan for well under $200? Was there a special rate? What was going on with covid at the time?


My friend just stayed in a pod for $160 after tax last night. He sent a photo. It was small but decent. Toilet shower shared down the hall. Sink in room.
I asked him how many people had pissed in that sink. He thought the same.

Edit: he's still up. He says it was called Pod51.
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In reply to bearister • 11:48p, 6/3/24
bearister said:
Why is a group of billionaires working to re-elect Trump?


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not surprising that a lot of billionaires support a man of the people such as Trump! These folks care about the people; that's how they got to be billionaires! Notice how the rigged judicial system found Trump guilty? That's because they didn't get "their" share of the pie! Unfortunately for them, they will be exposed for the radical-left witch-hunters they really are, as President Trump continues to drain the swamp next January!
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In reply to bearister • 1:12a, 6/4/24
bearister said:
Why is a group of billionaires working to re-elect Trump?

Why did so many non-billionaires donate?
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In reply to Big C • 1:13a, 6/4/24
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Not surprising that a lot of billionaires support a man of the people such as Trump! These folks care about the people; that's how they got to be billionaires! Notice how the rigged judicial system found Trump guilty? That's because they didn't get "their" share of the pie! Unfortunately for them, they will be exposed for the radical-left witch-hunters they really are, as President Trump continues to drain the swamp next January!

Fake news you can trust.
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1:41p, 6/4/24


In March, 2020, I sent an email to Admiral McRaven to discuss a specific passage in his book Sea Stories. He emailed me back a few days later and signed off "Bill."


*In the early chapters discussing his boyhood, he mentions a cherished present his mother bought him in 1966, a fully packed James Bond attache case. I told him by Mom bought me the same toy. The Admiral got a big kick out of that.


*When RFK got assassinated in 1968, this toy and Mattel's entire gun line were scrapped (I had the Thompson submachine gun and the Elliot Ness snub nose .38)

Attacks on Admiral McRaven's integrity and reputation invited here, including source citation
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In reply to bearister • 5:56p, 6/4/24
It's not too late for you to stop playing pretend.

But I wanted to include his full quote here since it cut off in my display.

Quote:
"Now, a former president has been convicted by a jury in New York, and we have a choice to make. We can show the world that we are still exceptional and continue to lead the international community with integrity and pride, or we can prolong the onslaught of crassness, vulgarity, pettiness and righteous indignation and descend into national mediocrity, where there is nothing of value worth emulating."
Adm. William H. McRaven (Ret.)
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6:48p, 6/4/24

[trailing jpeg fail? sorrry]
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In reply to bearister • 8:43p, 6/4/24
bearister said:
Why is a group of billionaires working to re-elect Trump?


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/03/billionaires-for-trump-presidential-election?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The biggest billionaire donor to Trump are the Adelsons, which Reich didn't mention. They have given Trump $100 million, with the expectation that he would support Israel annexing the West Bank if elected, the same way he endorsed the annexation of the Golan Heights.



No way in hell I can get behind this.
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In reply to Cal88 • 9:06p, 6/4/24
How much do you think tRump gets his beak wet in the Jarvanka $2B Saudi and the luxury resort on the shores of the Mediterranean in Gaza?
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In reply to smh • 9:45p, 6/4/24
smh said:

[trailing jpeg fail? sorrry]


Maybe Twitter stuff no longer loads automatically since Elon announced they are good with porn.
Search "porn" and hit Media and prepare for unlimited Pushycat Theater.

The conservatives have become the most liberal.
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10:13a, 6/5/24



* Run off to your nearest casino and plunk down a 6 figure bet on the proposition that tRump Redux ain't declassifying the Epstein files. It was very moving to hear tRump say he was very concerned with effecting anyone's life with phony stories. I'm sure his legal advisor, Mr. Dershowitz, will have invaluable input with regard to the potential pitfalls of releasing the files.
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In reply to bearister • 10:40a, 6/5/24
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* Run off to your nearest casino and plunk down a 6 figure bet on the proposition that tRump Redux ain't declassifying the Epstein files. It was very moving to hear tRump say he was very concerned with effecting anyone's life with phony stories. I'm sure his legal advisor, Mr. Dershowitz, will have invaluable input with regard to the potential pitfalls of releasing the files.


Did Biden declassify the Epstein files yet?
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In reply to 151 Days Til No Joe • 12:04p, 6/6/24
Epstein
Hunter
Hillary's emails
Feeble walking gait

It's all a smokescreen from the attempt to take down a quest for power that will lead to an authoritarian regime.

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2:21p, 6/6/24
Article says that Trump VP stakes is down to 4 men:

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum,
US Senators Marco Rubio of Florida,
Tim Scott of South Carolina,
JD Vance of Ohio.

Let's place our bets on these 4.

Burgum is too ugly, too smart. Trump likes "Central Casting". He also likes people that he can control, and since he can't argue with intelligence, Burgum is out.

Marco Rubio.... Uhm, no. Marco doesn't get him much, and Trump still has a spat with him. Revenge means to dump him. Why is he even hanging around? Latino vote? Little Marco is too short, he's out.

JD Vance is Trump's kind of man. Smart enough to know that he's choosing evil. But Trump already has these white angry men captured. So, I'm shading Vance, too.

That brings us to Tim Scott. Let's see. Tim has never been married. We don't even have reports of him dating. He's 58. What do you suppose he's gay? Well, what do you know. At the height of his campaign, he suddenly rolls out a woman, a girlfriend, a fiance. Wow.



Now, there's nothing wrong with being gay. But I don't believe this fiance story. In the '90s he declared himself a "proud" adult virgin. Uh huh. We get it, buddy.

But now back to Trump. He needs to expand his base in order to beat Biden this time. If he can get some black voters, that would be huge. Scott being NOT gay, at least for the magazine covers, works for Trump and his evangelicals. And Scott is really F'ing stupid. Just listen to him stammering for a response to whether he will accept election results - which should be REALLY easy. But Trump likes stupid and compliant. So this is actually a big win for Tim.



It was a total flub, but Trump will ask him to just stand there, smile, and tell black people to vote for him.

VP Tim Scott.

Hopefully we can get a Tim vs Kamala debate.
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3:17p, 6/6/24

Trump had to earn the public's trust first, and we had to destroy the trust in the MSM. Now after "Russian Collusion", Covid, Ukraine, and four years of the disastrous Biden regime, the broader public don't trust the MSM, and they are demanding Trump drain the swamp.

If Trump is re-elected, then it's the American people giving Trump the green light to go after the Deep State and the Democrats. The enemy from within is more dangerous than any foreign adversary that the Deep State and Democrats would like us to believe.
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In reply to concordtom • 11:15p, 6/6/24
concordtom said:
Article says that Trump VP stakes is down to 4 men:

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum,
US Senators Marco Rubio of Florida,
Tim Scott of South Carolina,
JD Vance of Ohio.

Let's place our bets on these 4.

Burgum is too ugly, too smart. Trump likes "Central Casting". He also likes people that he can control, and since he can't argue with intelligence, Burgum is out.

Of course it won't be "Liddle Marco".

And let's face it, no matter how much Tim Scott kneels before his master, Donald Trump will never pick a Black man as his VP.

Yes, Doug Burgum is smarter than Donald Trump (as am I), but he knows how to subjugate himself and bow.

His goal is to become President, and the easiest route is being VP to the fat man who is "one-too-many Big Macs" from keeling over.

Trump's necessity is money. Trump doesn't have it but Burgum does.

So their interests coincide perfectly. Burgum will provide the money and Trump will provide the possibility to ascend to the Presidency.
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