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In reply to BearlySane88 • 2:50p, 1/24/26
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.


Just because you don't like them doesn't make them unpopular. Polling from last week

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling

Let's look at all the polls, not just one that looks good for Trump.



I looked at this but it's hard to believe those numbers when the economy and inflation are actually doing incredibly well right now.

You will believe what you want.
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In reply to sycasey • 2:51p, 1/24/26
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https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/129669/replies/2643101

I think this is the most likely scenario at this point from everything I've seen.
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In reply to sycasey • 2:51p, 1/24/26
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.


Just because you don't like them doesn't make them unpopular. Polling from last week

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling

Let's look at all the polls, not just one that looks good for Trump.



I looked at this but it's hard to believe those numbers when the economy and inflation are actually doing incredibly well right now.

You will believe what you want.


Same for you good sir.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:07p, 1/24/26
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Let's look at all the polls, not just one that looks good for Trump.



You ain't seen nothing yet Sycasey.
As bad as these numbers look, they can get massively worse.

Wait till the stock market takes a hit when Trump appoints one of his stooges as the new Fed Chairman and the guy starts lowering the Fed Funds rate and the yield on the 10 year goes to the Moon. All of those Trumpers and Independents in the trades who depend on the homebuilding market are going to be put in the unemployment line.

That 30 year mortgage rate at 6.3% will be pushing 8% in a heartbeat.
The bond "vigilantes" will surely see to that.
You can't defy basic Econ 1.



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In reply to BearlySane88 • 3:09p, 1/24/26
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sycasey said:


https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/129669/replies/2643101

I think this is the most likely scenario at this point from everything I've seen.

It's too bad this civilian was unable to think rationally while being pepper sprayed and beaten. His fault, really.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:15p, 1/24/26
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BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:


https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/129669/replies/2643101

I think this is the most likely scenario at this point from everything I've seen.

It's too bad this civilian was unable to think rationally while being pepper sprayed and beaten. His fault, really.


We could go back and forth all day but he didn't get pepper sprayed for no reason
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3:18p, 1/24/26
Imagine finding yourself in a position where you have even the slightest sense that you need to take a defensive or "wait and see" position about today's event in Minnesota because of your political affiliation and/or previous vote(s). Yuck.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 3:19p, 1/24/26
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sycasey said:
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.


Just because you don't like them doesn't make them unpopular. Polling from last week

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling

Let's look at all the polls, not just one that looks good for Trump.



I looked at this but it's hard to believe those numbers when the economy and inflation are actually doing incredibly well right now.

People don't look at economic indicators. They look at $9/lb ground beef and $17/lb steak and suddenly the economy and inflation don't look so good.
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In reply to Haloski • 3:23p, 1/24/26
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Imagine finding yourself in a position where you have even the slightest sense that you need to take a defensive or "wait and see" position about today's event in Minnesota because of your political affiliation and/or previous vote(s). Yuck.

Imagine finding yourself waking up in the morning and carrying a gun with you to a heated protest against federal law enforcement and thinking things will turn out well in the end.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 3:24p, 1/24/26
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People don't look at economic indicators. They look at $9/lb ground beef and $17/lb steak and suddenly the economy and inflation don't look so good.


Bingo.

It should be obvious to even the most casual observer, that Trump doesn't give a crap about INFLATION.
All he cares about is growth.

This should be obvious by now given how many times he's hammered Jerome Powell to lower the Fed Funds rate . . . no matter where inflation is.

If people thought that inflation was bad under Biden, they ain't seen nothing yet.
Gold, Silver, and Copper are already telling us that.

Meanwhile, 10 and 30-year Treasury Bond yields will soar.
We might even witness a "failed" treasury auction.

Trump is about to get a real lesson in Econ. 1
It's too bad that he never went to class at Wharton.
Otherwise, he wouldn't be so stupid when it comes to basic intermarket relationships.


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3:29p, 1/24/26
https://gunowners.mn/press-release-shooting-death-alex-pretti/

Gun Caucus calling for investigation. You can sign up for their 2nd Amendment Newsletter in the link for those interested
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3:34p, 1/24/26
The authorities shot a white man with a gun. Why is the left upset?
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 3:36p, 1/24/26
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BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
chazzed said:
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sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
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https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html

The girl had a nosebleed, they didn't refuse her life saving treatment. Such a misleading post once again

The medical experts with ICE were able to determine this in a hospital parking lot before detaining the child?


I imagine it was clear to everyone that she had a nosebleed. If you've ever been around kids, nosebleeds are a part of life. Would you have preferred they broke the family up? I thought the left was against separating families in these situations.

I would prefer they let the hospital check them out first, since they were there for a reason. I would prefer that people who are actually trying to use the legal immigration system properly not be disappeared to detention centers.

Your false choice is ridiculous.


There was no false choice. The family is illegal. They either separate the kid from her parents or arrest them all.

If you really wanted the asylum system to be respected then you should have told the Biden administration to stop letting people claim false asylum because now all asylum seekers are under intense scrutiny.

They will have the right to go in front of an immigration judge and their status in this country will be determined as deemed by law.

In that case I encourage this government to take its case to the American people and see if they like families getting this kind of treatment. Should be an easy boost for their popularity.


77 million+ people already voted for this.

Okay. Every President had a lot of people vote for them. Many have become unpopular due to how they governed. And?


You said take it to the American people, it already has been.


Then by all means, keep pushing the unpopular policies. You'll enjoy the midterms very much.


Just because you don't like them doesn't make them unpopular. Polling from last week

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/donald-trump-congress-policy-republicans-polling

Let's look at all the polls, not just one that looks good for Trump.



I looked at this but it's hard to believe those numbers when the economy and inflation are actually doing incredibly well right now.

People don't look at economic indicators. They look at $9/lb ground beef and $17/lb steak and suddenly the economy and inflation don't look so good.


Valid argument
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 3:39p, 1/24/26
Um, yeah. That's what I'm referencing.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 3:40p, 1/24/26
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People don't look at economic indicators. They look at $9/lb ground beef and $17/lb steak and suddenly the economy and inflation don't look so good.

That's one of the reasons Biden Kamala lost the presidency.
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In reply to chazzed • 3:42p, 1/24/26
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Um, yeah. That's what I'm referencing.


What are you replying to?
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3:48p, 1/24/26
More lies from the government. Sure, the guy who had his phone out and was backing up to the sidewalk was there to kill people.

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It is only a matter of time until Trump's legislative branch passes the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act and some drunk Texan packing heat acts up in a San Francisco bar or on BART and during the attempted arrest, some panicky SF/BART cop yells "gun" and the cops put 10 9mm's into his back.
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4:02p, 1/24/26

I am behind on the news cycle for the past couple of days: WHY IS ICE SHOOTING NURSES NOW?!?
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In reply to Big C • 4:06p, 1/24/26
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I am behind on the news cycle for the past couple of days: WHY IS ICE SHOOTING NURSES NOW?!?

because they can, they do # do
FUNK TRUNK !
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In reply to sycasey • 4:12p, 1/24/26
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The didn't take the woman in pinks phone and she was right there on the scene. Unless she was live-streaming and the video was out to the internet already
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In reply to smh • 4:13p, 1/24/26
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Big C said:

I am behind on the news cycle for the past couple of days: WHY IS ICE SHOOTING NURSES NOW?!?

because they can, they do # do

Just occurred to me: Was the nurse maybe giving a free COVID shot to an undocumented person? Because that might make the shooting justified!
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In reply to Big C • 4:13p, 1/24/26
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I am behind on the news cycle for the past couple of days: WHY IS ICE SHOOTING NURSES NOW?!?

From what I'm hearing here:

1. Shouldn't have been in the street filming ICE (obstruction!).
2. Shouldn't be carrying a gun (repeal the 2nd Amendment!).
3. It's his fault for not being trained on how to deal with police brutality.
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In reply to sycasey • 4:14p, 1/24/26
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I see no dancing at all. Classic rage bait. Dude could easily be clapping for a million reasons and he certainly doesn't look to be celebrating
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In reply to sycasey • 4:16p, 1/24/26
sycasey said:
Big C said:

I am behind on the news cycle for the past couple of days: WHY IS ICE SHOOTING NURSES NOW?!?

From what I'm hearing here:

1. Shouldn't have been in the street filming ICE (obstruction!).
2. Shouldn't be carrying a gun (repeal the 2nd Amendment!).
3. It's his fault for not being trained on how to deal with police brutality.

See my theory above; I may have figured it out.
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In reply to sycasey • 4:16p, 1/24/26
sycasey said:
Big C said:

I am behind on the news cycle for the past couple of days: WHY IS ICE SHOOTING NURSES NOW?!?

From what I'm hearing here:

1. Shouldn't have been in the street filming ICE (obstruction!).
2. Shouldn't be carrying a gun (repeal the 2nd Amendment!).
3. It's his fault for not being trained on how to deal with police brutality.


1) True, blocking and impeding
2) Shouldn't be carrying a gun and engaging in negative interactions with law enforcement. Fixed it for you.
3) No it's partially on him for not complying. Fixed that for you too
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 4:17p, 1/24/26
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The authorities shot a white man with a gun. Why is the left upset?

You are the one who believes murder should be justified based on the identity of the victim. Not us.
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I see no dancing at all. Classic rage bait. Dude could easily be clapping for a million reasons and he certainly doesn't look to be celebrating
maybe he was clapping for the news that Costco had blackened catfish in stock in St Paul?
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BearlySane88 said:
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I see no dancing at all. Classic rage bait. Dude could easily be clapping for a million reasons and he certainly doesn't look to be celebrating
maybe he was clapping for the news that Costco had blackened catfish in stock in St Paul?


I coach basketball and I clap all the time during games and I can guarantee you it's not in celebration
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In reply to SpecSlayer • 4:23p, 1/24/26
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BearlySane is clearly an evil human being. I don't understand why they have not been banned yet, but the mods gave a timeout to other users. What's the point of continuing this convo


Hi nice to meet you too. I'm sorry you don't agree with my opinions but just calling people names and not engaging in debate is a problem. Feel free to call out anything I've said specifically and I'd be happy to discuss it with you. Or stick to your insults if that makes you feel better. Have a better day buddy.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 4:23p, 1/24/26
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cal83dls79 said:
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:


I see no dancing at all. Classic rage bait. Dude could easily be clapping for a million reasons and he certainly doesn't look to be celebrating
maybe he was clapping for the news that Costco had blackened catfish in stock in St Paul?


I coach basketball and I clap all the time during games and I can guarantee you it's not in celebration
hopefully you don't clap while they're shooting though
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