too much with the clowning around already #imo
In their day, the most populous state had about 20 times the population of the least populous. Today it's 60 times.Sonofoski said:
sycasey,
You are clueless. The reason the founders created the electoral college was to prevent the most populous states from determining who would get elected.
Actually, preventing the most populous states from determining who would get elected had absolutely nothing to do with it. That's just something Republicans say because they don't study history, read, or learn.Sonofoski said:
sycasey,
You are clueless. The reason the founders created the electoral college was to prevent the most populous states from determining who would get elected.
GoOskie said:Guns and blubber are fun, though.LMK5 said:Your obsession with guns and blubber is getting worrisome. We're just here for fun my friend.bearister said:hanky1 said:dajo9 said:
If Biden (or Trump) wins the popular vote and they are not made President, resistance and rebellion is the most noble course of action
I believe mobilizing the army and shooting rebels is the noblest course of action for anyone who openly rebels against the US government.
If Biden wins, the best thing about the Proud Boys and the militiamen is that they are so f@ucking fat that a center mass shot is a no brainer. The Guard will put'em down and torch what's left in place.
Sonofoski said:
okaydo,
What does carrying 4 states have to do with anything other than they have a strong Democrat lean?
The issue is that those 4 states along with the other 46 states give a candidate the popular vote. The fact these states are heavily democrat, much so, that they swing the election. As a result, those states that are more balanced between Republicans and Democrats lose any say in the election.
sycasey said:In their day, the most populous state had about 20 times the population of the least populous. Today it's 60 times.Sonofoski said:
sycasey,
You are clueless. The reason the founders created the electoral college was to prevent the most populous states from determining who would get elected.
Not sure the founders anticipated that.
I was doing some rough, rounded-off math. But yes.okaydo said:sycasey said:In their day, the most populous state had about 20 times the population of the least populous. Today it's 60 times.Sonofoski said:
sycasey,
You are clueless. The reason the founders created the electoral college was to prevent the most populous states from determining who would get elected.
Not sure the founders anticipated that.
Just for the record:
Wyoming's population is 578,759.
California's population is 39,512,223.
39,512,223 divided by 578,759 = 68.
Cal88 said:
NYT reporting FL and GA for Trump with >95% and 86% probability respectively. FL is settled because it's dead even with the Panhandle's results yet to come in.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html
BearForce2 said:
We're at the halfway point for Ohio and Biden has a 12 point lead.
BearForce2 said:Cal88 said:
NYT reporting FL and GA for Trump with >95% and 86% probability respectively. FL is settled because it's dead even with the Panhandle's results yet to come in.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html
I have early Virginia numbers going for Trump but my graphic shows up blue for Biden, what gives?
BearForce2 said:
Biden has a 6 point lead in NC with 69% reporting.
dimitrig said:BearForce2 said:
Biden has a 6 point lead in NC with 69% reporting.
NYT has Trump with an 82% chance of winning in NC.
dimitrig said:BearForce2 said:
We're at the halfway point for Ohio and Biden has a 12 point lead.
Yeah, but that mostly reflects early voting which was expected to favor Biden. I expect that is going to narrow. How much will it narrow? We will see.
dimitrig said:dimitrig said:BearForce2 said:
We're at the halfway point for Ohio and Biden has a 12 point lead.
Yeah, but that mostly reflects early voting which was expected to favor Biden. I expect that is going to narrow. How much will it narrow? We will see.
According to 538:
"In Ohio, Biden leads by 18 points among absentee votes and by 2 points among in-person votes. So, that sounds really good for Biden, right? Well, maybe, but we may be seeing the early in-person votes reported first, which are likely better for Biden than the ones cast on Election Day."
Nate Cohn now says that his "needle" model might be biased by the early results in Florida, and you can't be sure the same effects will be repeated in other states. So it's still an open question in NC and GA. In GA especially it looks like the Atlanta vote will be counted late, thanks to a water pipe break.dimitrig said:BearForce2 said:
Biden has a 6 point lead in NC with 69% reporting.
NYT has Trump with an 82% chance of winning in NC.
sycasey said:Nate Cohn now says that his "needle" model might be biased by the early results in Florida, and you can't be sure the same effects will be repeated in other states. So it's still an open question in NC and GA. In GA especially it looks like the Atlanta vote will be counted late, thanks to a water pipe break.dimitrig said:BearForce2 said:
Biden has a 6 point lead in NC with 69% reporting.
NYT has Trump with an 82% chance of winning in NC.
https://www.businessinsider.com/burst-pipe-delays-absentee-ballot-counting-in-georgias-biggest-county-2020-11
I think we won't know the result tonight, gonna have to sit tight.
I have to say, I feel rather stupid myself right now. Every election, I promise myself I'm not going to sweat the minute by minute updates and go do something productive like cooking a healthy meal, go for a workout, get dinner with a friend, and simply read the results at 10 or 11 when the results start becoming final. Yet, here I am checking the results every 10 minutes.bearister said:
BearForce2 said:
North Carolina is now even, Trump has a slim 2 point lead in Ohio.
BearForce2 said:
PA is up for grabs and Biden is leading in AZ with 71% reporting.