BearlySane88 said:

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bearister said:

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My initial post was objecting to ICE not displaying badge numbers. You replied to that by saying it is not safe for ICE officers to show their faces. I reply that I understand the need for face masks but that badge numbers should be visible…..and you respond:

"You are not processing that I am 100% fine with them having no id and face masks. Don't break the law and you dont have to worry about it."

When the f@uck was this discussion ever about the fact that you are fine with the wearing of face masks and not displaying badge numbers? So you get dunked on in a discussion and then decide to shift to an issue never under discussion? If you don't like the issues I raise, then don't quote my posts and attempt to engage in a discussion.

*Yes, we know you would have been fine with Derek Chauvin wearing a face mask and no badge number the day he murdered George Floyd so that he could have gotten away with it if the police dept. was willing to give him cover like ICE would give cover to one of its agents that wrongfully murdered someone.

When you reckon Trump pardons Chauvin?

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The whole discussion was about whether face masks should be worn and badge numbers should be shown. Anything pertaining to that absolutely connects to the conversation being had. I know it's hard when people don't agree with you, it hurts your feelings but you'll be okay.

******George Floyd wasn't murdered. He died of a lethal drug overdose

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This is my post that started the discussion:



When did I contest the right of ICE agents to wear masks? You were so ready with your arguments justifying ICE wearing face masks that you could not wait to drop it on someone……the problem being, I was the wrong someone because I only object to not displaying badge numbers and I made it clear in every post. Class is over. You're dismissed, now run along.

bearister said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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bearister said:

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My initial post was objecting to ICE not displaying badge numbers. You replied to that by saying it is not safe for ICE officers to show their faces. I reply that I understand the need for face masks but that badge numbers should be visible…..and you respond:

"You are not processing that I am 100% fine with them having no id and face masks. Don't break the law and you dont have to worry about it."

When the f@uck was this discussion ever about the fact that you are fine with the wearing of face masks and not displaying badge numbers? So you get dunked on in a discussion and then decide to shift to an issue never under discussion? If you don't like the issues I raise, then don't quote my posts and attempt to engage in a discussion.

*Yes, we know you would have been fine with Derek Chauvin wearing a face mask and no badge number the day he murdered George Floyd so that he could have gotten away with it if the police dept. was willing to give him cover like ICE would give cover to one of its agents that wrongfully murdered someone.

When you reckon Trump pardons Chauvin?

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The whole discussion was about whether face masks should be worn and badge numbers should be shown. Anything pertaining to that absolutely connects to the conversation being had. I know it's hard when people don't agree with you, it hurts your feelings but you'll be okay.

******George Floyd wasn't murdered. He died of a lethal drug overdose

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This is my post that started the discussion:



When did I contest the right of ICE agents to wear masks? You were so ready with your arguments justifying ICE wearing face masks that you could not wait to drop it on someone……the problem being, I was the wrong someone because I only object to not displaying badge numbers and I made it clear in every post. Class is over. You're dismissed, now run along.

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Lmao the fact that you think you taught something here is hilarious. You're the boring teacher in school who just tells people what to think instead of allowing thoughts to be formed.

Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

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Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

Someone else "impeding" law enforcement here.

ICE arrested Chicago Alderman Jessie Fuentes inside a hospital emergency room—simply for asking them to show a warrant for a man they detained. pic.twitter.com/hVgJC5nvIg

— Mike Nellis (@MikeNellis) October 3, 2025

BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Someone else "impeding" law enforcement here.

ICE arrested Chicago Alderman Jessie Fuentes inside a hospital emergency room—simply for asking them to show a warrant for a man they detained. pic.twitter.com/hVgJC5nvIg

— Mike Nellis (@MikeNellis) October 3, 2025

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She was given multiple lawful orders to leave with a warning she would be arrested if she didn't. She didn't leave, she got arrested. Seems cut and dry

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Looks like she's standing in a public place. There seems to be no immediate danger. How is this a lawful order to leave?

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

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Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

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You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

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Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Someone else "impeding" law enforcement here.

ICE arrested Chicago Alderman Jessie Fuentes inside a hospital emergency room—simply for asking them to show a warrant for a man they detained. pic.twitter.com/hVgJC5nvIg

— Mike Nellis (@MikeNellis) October 3, 2025

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She was given multiple lawful orders to leave with a warning she would be arrested if she didn't. She didn't leave, she got arrested. Seems cut and dry

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Looks like she's standing in a public place. There seems to be no immediate danger. How is this a lawful order to leave?

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Because a federal agent conducting an investigation told her to and she is standing in a hospital, not the sidewalk

Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

Sorry, that is not at all what happened. You either haven't been paying attention or you are arguing in bad faith. That isn't my opinion, it's a stone cold fact. Where do you think the money came for the NGOs who brought them here? Where did all the money come to keep them here?

BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Someone else "impeding" law enforcement here.

ICE arrested Chicago Alderman Jessie Fuentes inside a hospital emergency room—simply for asking them to show a warrant for a man they detained. pic.twitter.com/hVgJC5nvIg

— Mike Nellis (@MikeNellis) October 3, 2025

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She was given multiple lawful orders to leave with a warning she would be arrested if she didn't. She didn't leave, she got arrested. Seems cut and dry

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Looks like she's standing in a public place. There seems to be no immediate danger. How is this a lawful order to leave?

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Because a federal agent conducting an investigation told her to and she is standing in a hospital, not the sidewalk

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The hospital owners said she was trespassing?

Zippergate said:

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Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

Sorry, that is not at all what happened. You either haven't been paying attention or you are arguing in bad faith. That isn't my opinion, it's a stone cold fact. Where do you think the money came for the NGOs who brought them here? Where did all the money come to keep them here?

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No, I'm pretty sure that is your opinion.

sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

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Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

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You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

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Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

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Purposefully naive, homer, or smoking something? It actually looks highly planned and coordinated.

1. 10 - 25 million illegal immigrants in 4 years is no accident
2. On Day 1 Biden rescinded 25-30 EOs which President Trump used to successfully secure the border
3. Like Biden welding open gates in the Wall, and stopping construction of The Wall
4. Stanford historian Victor Davis Hanson said four flights a night of illegal immigrants were flown into Fresno Airport in the middle of the night, every night; some small homes housed 40, 50 illegal immigrants (tents, porches)
5. The Customs and Border Patrol app was expanded to allow illegal immigrants in Central and Northern Mexico to facilitate entry along the U.S. southern border.
6. VP and Border Czar Kamala Harris ended the simple 'cheek swab' test - which verified that unaccompanied children were handed over to family members. 330,000 children were unaccounted for
7. Recent Whistleblowers said government employees were instructed to facilitate migrants getting Social Security numbers, long-term disability, and Passports (not asylum)
8. Various cities registered illegal immigrants to vote
9. Illegal immigrants were counted in the census, increasing Democrat House seats in states like California; this is why President Trump wants a new census
10. The Catholic Church, and other churches, received millions primarily through the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), to resettle 'migrants'. (Latinos also fill empty church pews.)
11. Via the United Nations, through taxpayer-funded NGOs like the International Organization for Migration (IOM) and UNHCR, they provided assistance to migrants in transit; this assistance took the form of "Multipurpose Cash Assistance" (MCA) distributed via pre-paid debit cards, bank transfers, or cash to cover food, etc.

Please, I put together this quickie list after a few glasses of wine. Do better. Many argue the Democrats want to flip states with illegal immigration, like Texas, so they'll run the country unopposed for decades - like California. Pure power play.

movielover said:

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Please, I put together this quickie list after a few glasses of wine. Do better. Many argue the Democrats want to flip states with illegal immigration, like Texas, so they'll run the country unopposed for decades - like California. Pure power play.

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Oh, I can tell, believe me.

I find this whole theory about Democrats importing immigrants to win elections an absolutely ridiculous conspiracy theory.

1. Illegals can't vote.

2. Even if they stay and their kids become citizens, the last election unequivocally proved that these people are not reliable Democratic voters at all. A lot of second-generation Latinos (for example) swung to Trump. Bush won a pretty high percentage of Latino voters.

If this is the Democrats' plan, it's a terrible one. I don't think it's much of a plan at all. If people on the left are importing immigrants, it's out of a (perhaps misguided) belief that it's the morally correct thing to do.