BearlySane88 said:

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My initial post was objecting to ICE not displaying badge numbers. You replied to that by saying it is not safe for ICE officers to show their faces. I reply that I understand the need for face masks but that badge numbers should be visible…..and you respond:

"You are not processing that I am 100% fine with them having no id and face masks. Don't break the law and you dont have to worry about it."

When the f@uck was this discussion ever about the fact that you are fine with the wearing of face masks and not displaying badge numbers? So you get dunked on in a discussion and then decide to shift to an issue never under discussion? If you don't like the issues I raise, then don't quote my posts and attempt to engage in a discussion.

*Yes, we know you would have been fine with Derek Chauvin wearing a face mask and no badge number the day he murdered George Floyd so that he could have gotten away with it if the police dept. was willing to give him cover like ICE would give cover to one of its agents that wrongfully murdered someone.

When you reckon Trump pardons Chauvin?

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The whole discussion was about whether face masks should be worn and badge numbers should be shown. Anything pertaining to that absolutely connects to the conversation being had. I know it's hard when people don't agree with you, it hurts your feelings but you'll be okay.

******George Floyd wasn't murdered. He died of a lethal drug overdose

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bearister said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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bearister said:

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My initial post was objecting to ICE not displaying badge numbers. You replied to that by saying it is not safe for ICE officers to show their faces. I reply that I understand the need for face masks but that badge numbers should be visible…..and you respond:

"You are not processing that I am 100% fine with them having no id and face masks. Don't break the law and you dont have to worry about it."

When the f@uck was this discussion ever about the fact that you are fine with the wearing of face masks and not displaying badge numbers? So you get dunked on in a discussion and then decide to shift to an issue never under discussion? If you don't like the issues I raise, then don't quote my posts and attempt to engage in a discussion.

*Yes, we know you would have been fine with Derek Chauvin wearing a face mask and no badge number the day he murdered George Floyd so that he could have gotten away with it if the police dept. was willing to give him cover like ICE would give cover to one of its agents that wrongfully murdered someone.

When you reckon Trump pardons Chauvin?

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The whole discussion was about whether face masks should be worn and badge numbers should be shown. Anything pertaining to that absolutely connects to the conversation being had. I know it's hard when people don't agree with you, it hurts your feelings but you'll be okay.

******George Floyd wasn't murdered. He died of a lethal drug overdose

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This is my post that started the discussion:



When did I contest the right of ICE agents to wear masks? You were so ready with your arguments justifying ICE wearing face masks that you could not wait to drop it on someone……the problem being, I was the wrong someone because I only object to not displaying badge numbers and I made it clear in every post. Class is over. You're dismissed, now run along.

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Someone else "impeding" law enforcement here.

ICE arrested Chicago Alderman Jessie Fuentes inside a hospital emergency room—simply for asking them to show a warrant for a man they detained. pic.twitter.com/hVgJC5nvIg

— Mike Nellis (@MikeNellis) October 3, 2025

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She was given multiple lawful orders to leave with a warning she would be arrested if she didn't. She didn't leave, she got arrested. Seems cut and dry

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

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Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

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You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Someone else "impeding" law enforcement here.

ICE arrested Chicago Alderman Jessie Fuentes inside a hospital emergency room—simply for asking them to show a warrant for a man they detained. pic.twitter.com/hVgJC5nvIg

— Mike Nellis (@MikeNellis) October 3, 2025

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She was given multiple lawful orders to leave with a warning she would be arrested if she didn't. She didn't leave, she got arrested. Seems cut and dry

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Looks like she's standing in a public place. There seems to be no immediate danger. How is this a lawful order to leave?

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Someone else "impeding" law enforcement here.

ICE arrested Chicago Alderman Jessie Fuentes inside a hospital emergency room—simply for asking them to show a warrant for a man they detained. pic.twitter.com/hVgJC5nvIg

— Mike Nellis (@MikeNellis) October 3, 2025

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She was given multiple lawful orders to leave with a warning she would be arrested if she didn't. She didn't leave, she got arrested. Seems cut and dry

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Looks like she's standing in a public place. There seems to be no immediate danger. How is this a lawful order to leave?

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Because a federal agent conducting an investigation told her to and she is standing in a hospital, not the sidewalk

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Zippergate said:

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Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

Sorry, that is not at all what happened. You either haven't been paying attention or you are arguing in bad faith. That isn't my opinion, it's a stone cold fact. Where do you think the money came for the NGOs who brought them here? Where did all the money come to keep them here?

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movielover said:

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Please, I put together this quickie list after a few glasses of wine. Do better. Many argue the Democrats want to flip states with illegal immigration, like Texas, so they'll run the country unopposed for decades - like California. Pure power play.

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

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Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

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You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

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Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

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How so? We were told repeatedly by President Biden, Vice President Harris, Attorney General Garland, and Homeland Secretary Mayorkas that the border was secure.

Not only did illegals cross the border by foot, they were also flown in.

If this was negligence, why didn't anyone in the Democratic Party hold their own leadership accountable over the past four years?

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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movielover said:

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Please, I put together this quickie list after a few glasses of wine. Do better. Many argue the Democrats want to flip states with illegal immigration, like Texas, so they'll run the country unopposed for decades - like California. Pure power play.

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Oh, I can tell, believe me.

I find this whole theory about Democrats importing immigrants to win elections an absolutely ridiculous conspiracy theory.

1. Illegals can't vote.

2. Even if they stay and their kids become citizens, the last election unequivocally proved that these people are not reliable Democratic voters at all. A lot of second-generation Latinos (for example) swung to Trump. Bush won a pretty high percentage of Latino voters.

If this is the Democrats' plan, it's a terrible one. I don't think it's much of a plan at all. If people on the left are importing immigrants, it's out of a (perhaps misguided) belief that it's the morally correct thing to do.

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Reality doesn't care whether you "find" something ridiculous or not. Face it, there is no amount of evidence that could be presented to you that would change your mind because in your hierarchy blind allegiance to the party line, whatever that is at the moment, comes before everything else. Or perhaps it's blind hatred of the other side; the proverbial cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. It's really quite extraordinary.

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

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Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

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You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

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Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

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How so? We were told repeatedly by President Biden, Vice President Harris, Attorney General Garland, and Homeland Secretary Mayorkas that the border was secure.

Not only did illegals cross the border by foot, they were also flown in.

If this was negligence, why didn't anyone in the Democratic Party hold their own leadership accountable over the past four years?

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They knew it was a politically difficult issue for them, so they tried to act like everything was fine. Pretty common story.

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Exactly, the Democrats wanted to flood the country with illegals for political reasons but they couldn't state their intentions due to political reasons.

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

---

Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

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You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

---

Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

---

How so? We were told repeatedly by President Biden, Vice President Harris, Attorney General Garland, and Homeland Secretary Mayorkas that the border was secure.

Not only did illegals cross the border by foot, they were also flown in.

If this was negligence, why didn't anyone in the Democratic Party hold their own leadership accountable over the past four years?

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They knew it was a politically difficult issue for them, so they tried to act like everything was fine. Pretty common story.

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Exactly, the Democrats wanted to flood the country with illegals for political reasons but they couldn't state their intentions due to political reasons.

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No, they were getting pressure from the base to do everything "opposite of Trump" so they did that on immigration, and it wasn't working so well but they couldn't admit it.

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

---

Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

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When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

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Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

---

You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

---

Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

---

How so? We were told repeatedly by President Biden, Vice President Harris, Attorney General Garland, and Homeland Secretary Mayorkas that the border was secure.

Not only did illegals cross the border by foot, they were also flown in.

If this was negligence, why didn't anyone in the Democratic Party hold their own leadership accountable over the past four years?

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They knew it was a politically difficult issue for them, so they tried to act like everything was fine. Pretty common story.

---

Exactly, the Democrats wanted to flood the country with illegals for political reasons but they couldn't state their intentions due to political reasons.

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No, they were getting pressure from the base to do everything "opposite of Trump" so they did that on immigration, and it wasn't working so well but they couldn't admit it.

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In 2021 as Biden opened the economy back up, there was a severe worker shortage. It was major news and a problem I was hearing about from all the small business owners and executives I know. Then immigration resolved that problem and America had the strongest recovery in the world.

You never hear about the worker shortage anymore because it is inconvenient for Trump and his corporate news caretakers.

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

---

Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

---

When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

---

Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

---

You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

---

Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

---

How so? We were told repeatedly by President Biden, Vice President Harris, Attorney General Garland, and Homeland Secretary Mayorkas that the border was secure.

Not only did illegals cross the border by foot, they were also flown in.

If this was negligence, why didn't anyone in the Democratic Party hold their own leadership accountable over the past four years?

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They knew it was a politically difficult issue for them, so they tried to act like everything was fine. Pretty common story.

---

Exactly, the Democrats wanted to flood the country with illegals for political reasons but they couldn't state their intentions due to political reasons.

---

No, they were getting pressure from the base to do everything "opposite of Trump" so they did that on immigration, and it wasn't working so well but they couldn't admit it.

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In 2021 as Biden opened the economy back up, there was a severe worker shortage. It was major news and a problem I was hearing about from all the small business owners and executives I know. Then immigration resolved that problem and America had the strongest recovery in the world.

You never hear about the worker shortage anymore because it is inconvenient for Trump and his corporate news caretakers.

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Did all these small business owners then hire illegal immigrants under the table? How did they advertise these jobs? How much did they pay them? Was it cash? What kind of jobs did they do?

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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sycasey said:

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Zippergate said:

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This is not America but it was America when the previous administration was paying to bring in millions of economic migrants? Nice definition of America you got there.

There's a very simple solution to this. Anyone resisting or interfering with ICE operations gets a one-way ticket to El Salvador. Stop resisting and comply. Your crowd is the one escalating this farce.

---

Serious question: when does this reasoning stop justifying every last breach of civil rights the current administration is going to engage in? Surely at some point "but the Democrats" is no longer a valid response?

---

When people like you admit that importing millions of economic migrants and giving them wads of cash was an insane, subversive policy that only a tiny minority of anti-American radicals wanted...
When you admit that all the lies about the border, how it couldn't be closed, how illegals weren't voting etc...
When you admit that facilitating the sex trafficking of tens of thousands of migrant children was seriously ****ed up and those who facilitated that crime or looked the other way deserve prosecution to the fullest extent of the law...
When you admit that there would be no need for aggressive ICE tactics if those who have no legal right to be here complied with the law and those who obstruct ICE got out of the way....
When you recognize all these policies were illegal and violated the rights and well-being of actual Americans, people our leaders swore to protect...

...then I might actually be hear what you have to say about these totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things unseemly tactics.

And we all know that this will never happen.

---

Like, me personally? I need to admit all that?

I didn't realize I had such power.

---

You have the power to acknowledge the fact that the Democrats purposely allowed foreigners to enter the country illegally by the millions while gaslighting American citizens with the help of the media into thinking otherwise.

Others will then take your comments about the civil rights and liberties of these illegal immigrants more seriously.

---

Democrats did allow the border to get out of control during Biden's term, yes. I don't know about "purposely." Seems like it was more about negligence/inaction than anything purposeful.

---

How so? We were told repeatedly by President Biden, Vice President Harris, Attorney General Garland, and Homeland Secretary Mayorkas that the border was secure.

Not only did illegals cross the border by foot, they were also flown in.

If this was negligence, why didn't anyone in the Democratic Party hold their own leadership accountable over the past four years?

---

They knew it was a politically difficult issue for them, so they tried to act like everything was fine. Pretty common story.

---

Exactly, the Democrats wanted to flood the country with illegals for political reasons but they couldn't state their intentions due to political reasons.

---

No, they were getting pressure from the base to do everything "opposite of Trump" so they did that on immigration, and it wasn't working so well but they couldn't admit it.

---

In 2021 as Biden opened the economy back up, there was a severe worker shortage. It was major news and a problem I was hearing about from all the small business owners and executives I know. Then immigration resolved that problem and America had the strongest recovery in the world.

You never hear about the worker shortage anymore because it is inconvenient for Trump and his corporate news caretakers.

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Did all these small business owners then hire illegal immigrants under the table? How did they advertise these jobs? How much did they pay them? Was it cash? What kind of jobs did they do?

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